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NFC uses (or useless)

Anyone use nfc? I still have yet to find a use for it. If you use it then what do you do with it. If you don't then do you feel it is useless?

at least we have it... some dont

Not using it yet.....
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Yeah, for now it's pretty useless in the U.S. Other countries are using it though, we have just fallen behind as far as NFC goes.

NFC doesn't seem to work with CM7 on my phone, it just straight doesn't turn on. I haven't seen it in the list of "not working" stuff in the threads, but I'm not sure what I'd do with it yet, so I'm not too worried

I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...

tcboo said:
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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I've been playing with it also with simple routine stuff like this. As soon as I get more tags i'm going to make some for checkins at my favorite hangouts... etc. But to date the most useful tasks I use NFC are checking the balance on my Clipper Card and Door entry access.
I've been trying the ports of CM7 but as soon as I've checked it out I bounce back to a backup because it won't work under CM7 and I need that door entry access.
Cheers

Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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tcboo said:
I use it, I bought my own programmable tags from tagsfordroid.com , I have one stuck in my car mount so as soon as I put it in the car mount, it goes to driving mode , turns wifi off and bluetooth on ...
I made another so as soon as I get home it is right next to my desk, so it turns wifi on connects , turns bluetooth off .
Yeah these are mundane uses but until we get google wallet or something like it, real world uses are slim to none ...
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Ty for link and advice! cool now i know what i can use it for

noodles2224 said:
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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that´s not right, in the us you can already pay at Mc Donalds with nfc (Nexus S 4g). For example in Germany, we don´t even have nfc phones.

Is it some becauze I dont anything, anywhere that nfc ready in cali
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It's useless, I just turn it off...not worth mentioning if a phone even has it.
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It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.

OverDrive33 said:
It's a shame so many people think NFC is "useless" - they don't see the potential it holds. If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.
I wrote a really big blog post on my personal blog about the potential of NFC.
There's also some great demos showing what it can be used for on this Google I/O talk.
Buy some blank NFC tags and let your imagination guide you.
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It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about

noodles2224 said:
Everything is release first in other countries. Nfc sucks here in the US
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what do Euros and Asians use NFC for?

If the iPhone5 comes with NFC I guarantee we'll see real-world adoption very quickly.[/QUOTE said:
That is very true, everything comes first with iPhones. Just example, iPhone can start up some cars that are synced with.. Android doesn't have an app like that..
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jessejames111981 said:
It pains me to agree that if the next iphone (iphone 6? iphone 4sx?) has NFC that it'd become more mainstream. To be honest if I say that my phone is capable of nfc noone knows what the hell I'm talking about
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Worst part is iphone users will act like apple pioneered and invented NFC.

I disagree. I think you will see a lot of the users of older iPhones will upgrade and if NFC is incorporated into the phone those pesky Apple Fanboys you love to deride will be advocates for the cause. The monolithic platform will work in it's favor unlike Android phones that have NFC built in and functional but crippled because the platform is fragmented by the carriers. All those users coming online at once will be what gets us to critical mass... but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.

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but I doubt they will claim it as an apple discovery.
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I disagree. I have an all out apple fanboy at work that swears the drop down notification bar was invented by apple even though it just got implemented in ios5. Swears that apple pioneered 4g. Invented the touchscreen. And a few others.
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even apple claims they invented a single button and rounded edges.

Unfortunately, it looks like I will be returning my Moto 360

It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.

mzimmer88 said:
It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.
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Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \

Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Misery loves company, I suppose.... That may explain why Motorola support was hardly helpful.

Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.

interested.
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
mzimmer88 said:
Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.
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Lol you guys think that's bad? You can just cycle bluetooth and it reconnects right?
I'm using the 360 with an ancient GS2 with CM-11 on it, and my bluetooth module is dying or something because it will disconnect the watch > then turn off bluetooth > and only way to re-enable is to restart the GS2 lol
My watch is more powerful than my phone... no update will fix that!

OrionNE said:
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
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20 minutes in and so far so good. Ha!
I will let more time go by before I do a real update. Off the bat, the difference I noticed is that the status bar just says "connected," rather than "connected, running sync loop." Not sure if that means anything.

I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.

Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Don't experience disconnect on my g watch unless I wander away from my phone.

Crazypinoy9 said:
I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.
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ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...

Hour 4, minute 9. No disconnects to be reported. An uneasy calmness fills the air.

I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.

kronium said:
I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.
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Sadly, I just returned my moto 360 today. I got constant disconnects on Bluetooth as well, but that actually didn't bother me. For me, it was the battery life. I got tired of charging it once in the middle of the day, everyday.
Also, I think Android wear is just not up to par yet...
My last watch was the Gear 2, & I agree that it's a much better watch and much better operating system. I got spoiled by 3 to 4 days worth of battery life and a beautiful screen- it just happens to be square... Also, the IR blaster is just too damn cool and useful!
I liked the round watch so much, that my next SmartWatch will probably be the LG G watch R. I'm hoping that they learn a lesson from Motorola and fix some of the problems that the moto 360 had. I'm also hoping that it is easier to modify and we can have a better experience with Android wear. I think I'm going to stick with Android Wear- after all, I remember the Android operating system was pretty bad when it first came out too...
Lastly, I just think it's ridiculous to have a watch that has the display turned off most of the time. I know someday in the future (soon) we will look back and laugh at the fact that smart watches had to sit there with the screens turned off most the time!

moto x here. no disconnects.

S5 here and no disconnects either.

I have an N5 and have experienced none of the behavior mentioned by OP. Watch stays connected unless I get out of range and reconnects smoothly when I come back within range.

gammite said:
moto x here. no disconnects.
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Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.

I have a Moto X, had a LG G watch for a week and now a moto 360 for a few days, haven't seen a single disconnect with either one.

kronium said:
Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.
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the watch has an icon it displays when it is not connected. the only time i see that icon is when i disconnect it.

maybe a replacement instead of a return?
tsy87 said:
ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...
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Only disconnected once over 5 days (other than testing how far I could go before it would, and it's at least 4 walls away), using Moto X. Maybe just your watch is the issue, and try a replacement before a return?

[Q] sleep tracking

Hello experts,
Since didn't find any information I'm wondering if there is any app able to be used as sleep tracker on SWR50?
Thanks a lot
Enrico

You can try "Sleep as Android".

mikk_11 said:
You can try "Sleep as Android".
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Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?

I really dont understand why Google and Sony made from us alpha testers of their system and watches.... Why is it possible that wristbands like MiBand can track sleep and walks for 30days with 10times smaller battery??? Technology is invented and as 15USD MBand shows - very cheap!
Google with actual version of Android Wear is on good way to kill this kind of watches.... Almost no SMS support, no email support, no calendar support, sleep and walk tracking almost unusable...)

If a smartwatch doesn't do what you don't buy one.Buy a fitness band.right now smart watches are just an extension of your phones

Unfortunatelly, nowadays are wear watches very bad phone extension. No way to see sms, email, calendar events, This must be essential part of system. No way to see weather, when IWANT to see weather. It is really crazy when google shows me weather almost every day around midnight, when I am in bed and it is impossible to block it.
Do you want to see older notification - no way. Do you want to edit notification (length and number of vibration) - no way... etc etc.
And Sony SW3 are sport watches, so tracking is essential part of their usage....

I get all the the notification from yahoo mail and gmail. I receive and reply to my wifes text messages without ever having to pick up my n6.And I can listen to music without my phone.

I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.

TheGSL said:
I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.
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Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
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tu3218 said:
Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
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Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
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I really hope, that Sony (and google) will release new version of wear OS much faster then new version of Android.... Because v 5.0 Lollipop was released more then year after 4.4 I am little bit afraid, because Google synchronized numbering of version od Android and Wear OS.

rzarecter said:
Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
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If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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tu3218 said:
If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
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rzarecter said:
True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
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Exactly! I'm still waiting for an all in one as well. But I think the Sony watch does a decent job in doing it all. There's not one out there though that does it all prefect yet either. It's really either a smart watch with some fitness features or a fitness band that excels in step counting, etc but with no smartphone extension. Maybe with updates it'll get better. I think it's more a limitation of google fit software in lollipop in its algorithm in calculating steps rather than Sony.
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Same here, no any problems exept the same (steps are inaccurate, cards are uneditabe etc) and the sleep tracker never works, exept today, im bit sick so i slept like 18 hours barely moving at all (must sleep on my back so i can breath) and when i woke up and checked SW3, It said my daily sleeping goal was suceeded ! then i checked lifelog and there it was, 14:11 sleep last night ! not really accurate but something at least and it actually works, i dunno how it counts it sleeping or how it now decided to work but man it does something... i thing it has something to do with not moving much (but still some) at a certain period of time before it thinks you are sleeping...

freewing70 said:
Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?
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Can you please share the link Petr mentioned to you for Sleep as Android updates?
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Hmm. According to the release notes, this version of Sleep As Android made yesterday includes a fix for the Smartwatch 3. I'm not seeing it in the Play store yet, but I guess that's probably coming soon. I installed the apk to test it out and got some conflicting information. When I started sleep tracking the notification on the phone says "Sorry, SmartWatch 3 is not yet fully supported!", however, the chart in the app shows movement from the watch's accelerometer. Seems like it should work, but I guess I won't know for sure until tomorrow morning.

I'm trying asap and will let you know.
I even get the message about SWR50 (not fully suported): I think it is because of huge battery drain.

It seems to have worked perfectly. My only complaint is that the Lucid dreaming vibrations woke me up, but that is neither here nor there.

I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.

Jerry7650 said:
I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.
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Oh. So I guess it's kind of subjective at this point. I consider it usable, I just have to put the watch on the charger a half hour before bed so I know it has enough charge for the night.

Insider News from Samsung Korea internal situation...

Source: Korea Samsung Headquarters clerk (from my country) sharing with his friend.
Reporting:
- Several High positioned personal resignations.
- The Firm stands strong and united, instead of despairing over the situation.
- Samsung's Engineers are working overtime over a new technology that will revolutionize the smartphone market. Priorly, this technology was supposed to be targeted for the following years. But after the Note 7 disaster, they decided to push it for the next Smartphone release.
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Opinion: Sounds legit. Just wanted to share the news. Nothing official of course.

I guess these "high positioned personnel" are the ones who pushed for batteries to be made by Samsung SDI. What makes it even more disappointing is, the replacement units are still SDI batteries. While we've heard nothing from the China region units with ATL batteries.
Samsung should shut their factory down and just stick with the winning formula.
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Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.

B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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Agreed.
Instead they should solidify their present technology like avoiding explosions...

B3501 said:
Bad idea to start pushing for quick new technology. Look at the disaster the Note 7 was because it was rushed.
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How do you know this? You don't. We don't know the cause yet.

Well! Tell them to fu** ing explain to us what was it they messed up so bad to infringe our personal property, safety and make us a ton of expences we will never get back!! Tell them they should be convincingnus they are not incompetent to make electronisc anymore in the first place!!

Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
I have turned fast charging off via the cable and wireless. I have zero over heating problems, zero lag issues, phone is acting like a phone. the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc.... That is the hard part. I will probably turn my Note 3 into my travel device for music and games and such. Like a glorified Android iPod touch. Ill just turn disable to mobile data and phone stuff, hide the sim card removed icon.
A lot of work still. Damnit Samsung.....

My note 7's (both the original and the replacement) have worked basically perfectly. They don't overheat, don't lag, really not a single problem. The Note 7 is by far the best overall smartphone made to date. Best display, best display to overall size ratio, best camera, waterproof, etc. Only two issues I would say are the edge display which makes a tempered screen protector impossible and a so-so external speaker. And of course the kicker - the non-removable battery. Had they just made it with a removable battery this issue would have not been a phone-killer. It is sad that the best phone ever made to date is killed off like this. And we still have no definitive answer to what is the problem? Seems incomprehensible.

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Its not the batteries that are causing the exploding. Its the tweaking of the software that controls the processor to run fast charging. Samsung tried to get a faster charge than all previous devices and screwed the pooch on the software. They can probably issue a software/firmware update but people will not be happy and it may not be a permanent fix.
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That sounds like speculation. These devices have been melting without being charged. We don't even know if Samsung knows what the actual problem is. Hopefully it all comes out so we get some reassurance about their next phones.

I read a lil bit ago that they didn't know what the actual problem was which is why they decided to kill it. They had over 100 people testing them round the clock and could not duplicate the issue of causing one to smoke/catch fire... of course though they were an anonymous
person close to the situation.
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"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.

Itchiee said:
"I think the phone, processor, get hot and bothered in its close quarters and makes the already temperamental battery mad and it throws a tantrum..."
* I heard this while hiding in a garbage pail in an undisclosed location.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

htusa said:
the real catch is concealing it when traveling on a plane etc
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Look, I get it, I want to keep my phone as well, and I am not sure what I will do. But to fly with it, while you base the rest on rumors, is plain irresponsible. What you do at home is your business, but getting on a plane with several hundred passengers and a possibly defective phone isn't (there's literally no way for you to tell whether your phone is safe or not). Samsung did after all improve the replacements as they are reportedly catching fire without being charged.

Does Android Auto work for you?

I've heard Android Auto usually doesn't work on Huawei phones and unfortunately its one of the few things I do need working on my phone. (Not just the App running, but more that is connects to my car successfully)
I'm in the US and will want to make sure Android Auto is functional before I pull the trigger. It looks like it has good LTE band support for AT&T so that i usually the other concern but I'm sure that is going to work fine.
If any of you US folks can confirm Android Auto is working I would really appreciate it, Thanks!

Would be very interested to know this too.

If no one chimes in, I'll be happy to tell you next week when I receive mine, I'll connect to my Maxima SR and test it.

antiochasylum said:
If no one chimes in, I'll be happy to tell you next week when I receive mine, I'll connect to my Maxima SR and test it.
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Thank you, really appreciate it.
What carrier are you going to be putting it on?

omniphil said:
Thank you, really appreciate it.
What carrier are you going to be putting it on?
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ATT.
I'm also going to test VoLTE. And spoofing the imei on ATT in an attempt to get VoLTE. See which one works.

antiochasylum said:
ATT.
I'm also going to test VoLTE. And spoofing the imei on ATT in an attempt to get VoLTE. See which one works.
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Excellent, I'm sitting on AT&T as well.

I answered in another thread but yeah works perfectly for me. So does ok Google when using Android auto but ok Google doesn't work properly if not using Android auto. China version

I need this to work or I'll get my ass lost within a week [emoji23][emoji23]
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Jerky_san said:
I answered in another thread but yeah works perfectly for me. So does ok Google when using Android auto but ok Google doesn't work properly if not using Android auto. China version
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Does it connect to the car right away when you first plug in the cable?
I have a Xiaomi Mi Max 3 now and the connection to the car sometimes takes like 5 -10 minutes..

omniphil said:
Does it connect to the car right away when you first plug in the cable?
I have a Xiaomi Mi Max 3 now and the connection to the car sometimes takes like 5 -10 minutes..
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Mine is pretty instant.. Both my cars have a little thing that plays in the beginning so it gives the phone about a 5 head start but its usually there by the time the animation finishes.

Jerky_san said:
Mine is pretty instant.. Both my cars have a little thing that plays in the beginning so it gives the phone about a 5 head start but its usually there by the time the animation finishes.
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And your on the Chinese version?, so you had to manually install all the Play Services?
I think i would just end up going with the Global version, so I think that's already all baked in.

omniphil said:
And your on the Chinese version?, so you had to manually install all the Play Services?
I think i would just end up going with the Global version, so I think that's already all baked in.
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There is a ton of misinformation floating around. Chinese version comes with services baked in. All its missing is google play store and certain google apps like gmail, android auto, hangouts, calender, and others. Its like you installed pico gapps for a rom. Just the basics included. But services and calendar sync and such were already baked in.

Jerky_san said:
There is a ton of misinformation floating around. Chinese version comes with services baked in. All its missing is google play store and certain google apps like gmail, android auto, hangouts, calender, and others. Its like you installed pico gapps for a rom. Just the basics included. But services and calendar sync and such were already baked in.
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Oh that's good to know thank you. Certainly not normal for Chinese phones.
If i'm getting one shortly tho, I'm guessing I should just get the Global version anyways?

omniphil said:
Oh that's good to know thank you. Certainly not normal for Chinese phones.
If i'm getting one shortly tho, I'm guessing I should just get the Global version anyways?
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If the price is the same and such I'd just grab the global. If its not that's up to you then whether you can stand the differences. I got mine the day of release from a lady who I know that came back from Shanghai that day. She grabbed my phone on the way to the airport for me from a Huawei Shop in Shanghai so I paid release day price of $880 w the case. For me that was worth it given the vendors are charging more on top of that. So I "deal" with the china problems. Notification are delayed but I found a setting that lets you tell it to not kill the background work so as long as I don't accidentally close it myself my apps that are important run in the back ground. You "can't change the launcher". You'll have people say BUT YOU CAN JUST USE GESTURES! but that isn't changing the launcher to me. They will be releasing a fix for that but I believe that affects global and china. Biggest thing for me past that is the notification stuff which I believe I've fixed as so far it's responsive.

Jerky_san said:
If the price is the same and such I'd just grab the global. If its not that's up to you then whether you can stand the differences. I got mine the day of release from a lady who I know that came back from Shanghai that day. She grabbed my phone on the way to the airport for me from a Huawei Shop in Shanghai so I paid release day price of $880 w the case. For me that was worth it given the vendors are charging more on top of that. So I "deal" with the china problems. Notification are delayed but I found a setting that lets you tell it to not kill the background work so as long as I don't accidentally close it myself my apps that are important run in the back ground. You "can't change the launcher". You'll have people say BUT YOU CAN JUST USE GESTURES! but that isn't changing the launcher to me. They will be releasing a fix for that but I believe that affects global and china. Biggest thing for me past that is the notification stuff which I believe I've fixed as so far it's responsive.
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I've had a few Xiaomi and Huawei phones in the past so I am fairly familiar with the hoops you have to jump through to disable the weird task killer stuff and get notifications working. But yes, I'd certainly want notifications from apps other than the build in ones to be pretty real time. So I think I'm ok with that.
Can't change the launcher? they block installing of any third party launcher? While not a deal breaker, I am certainly accustomed to using Nova launcher. But if It's being fixed I guess that's ok too.
The only other major issue for me I've had on the Mi Max 3 is Video Chat apps. I use Line and Skype and the other person cannot hear me consistently. Audio keeps dropping in volume and breaks up, makes video chatting unusable. I am able to get around it by using WhatsApp (No idea why that works and the others don't)
Have you done any video chatting on the phone by chance?
How are you making out with the LTE bands in the US? It seems like the band list for this phone covers most of AT&T...
Thank you for all the help.

omniphil said:
I've had a few Xiaomi and Huawei phones in the past so I am fairly familiar with the hoops you have to jump through to disable the weird task killer stuff and get notifications working. But yes, I'd certainly want notifications from apps other than the build in ones to be pretty real time. So I think I'm ok with that.
Can't change the launcher? they block installing of any third party launcher? While not a deal breaker, I am certainly accustomed to using Nova launcher. But if It's being fixed I guess that's ok too.
The only other major issue for me I've had on the Mi Max 3 is Video Chat apps. I use Line and Skype and the other person cannot hear me consistently. Audio keeps dropping in volume and breaks up, makes video chatting unusable. I am able to get around it by using WhatsApp (No idea why that works and the others don't)
Have you done any video chatting on the phone by chance?
How are you making out with the LTE bands in the US? It seems like the band list for this phone covers most of AT&T...
Thank you for all the help.
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You can install them and run them you simply can't make them default. I've not done video chatting but honestly I don't like to do it but I'll say if the other cameras are anything to look up to your going to be 100% fine. I get full 4g lte its just missing band 30 but my phone seems to sit on band 2 all the time.

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You can install them and run them you simply can't make them default. I've not done video chatting but honestly I don't like to do it but I'll say if the other cameras are anything to look up to your going to be 100% fine. I get full 4g lte its just missing band 30 but my phone seems to sit on band 2 all the time.
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Sounds like I can deal with the launcher issue for now until it's patched.
It's people like you that make this forum a good place to be and learn about these phones so I really appreciate it. Sounds like I need to order this phone give it a whirl as my Mi Max 3 is just too buggy for daily use.

omniphil said:
Sounds like I can deal with the launcher issue for now until it's patched.
It's people like you that make this forum a good place to be and learn about these phones so I really appreciate it. Sounds like I need to order this phone give it a whirl as my Mi Max 3 is just too buggy for daily use.
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Thanks for the compliment.. I've mostly ever been a lurker but since I was one of the first to get this phone figured I'd help as much as I could.

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Thanks for the compliment.. I've mostly ever been a lurker but since I was one of the first to get this phone figured I'd help as much as I could.
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Thank you for answering those questions! I am also interesting on this phone and your input is valuable!
May I know if you were able to watch Youtube, Netflix, etc with high resolution such as 720p?

torr310 said:
Thank you for answering those questions! I am also interesting on this phone and your input is valuable!
May I know if you were able to watch Youtube, Netflix, etc with high resolution such as 720p?
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So I don't have netflix as I use plex and such. Youtube lets me watch videos at 1080p60fps and I've actually tried doing 4k ones and it does seem to handle them well. Though you need to be closer to an AP since the transfer is a lot of data. I assume though you mean some paid youtube service or like amazon video which appears to stay low quality. The global is level 1 and china is level 3 for the drm security crap.