Hello experts,
Since didn't find any information I'm wondering if there is any app able to be used as sleep tracker on SWR50?
Thanks a lot
Enrico
You can try "Sleep as Android".
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You can try "Sleep as Android".
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Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?
I really dont understand why Google and Sony made from us alpha testers of their system and watches.... Why is it possible that wristbands like MiBand can track sleep and walks for 30days with 10times smaller battery??? Technology is invented and as 15USD MBand shows - very cheap!
Google with actual version of Android Wear is on good way to kill this kind of watches.... Almost no SMS support, no email support, no calendar support, sleep and walk tracking almost unusable...)
If a smartwatch doesn't do what you don't buy one.Buy a fitness band.right now smart watches are just an extension of your phones
Unfortunatelly, nowadays are wear watches very bad phone extension. No way to see sms, email, calendar events, This must be essential part of system. No way to see weather, when IWANT to see weather. It is really crazy when google shows me weather almost every day around midnight, when I am in bed and it is impossible to block it.
Do you want to see older notification - no way. Do you want to edit notification (length and number of vibration) - no way... etc etc.
And Sony SW3 are sport watches, so tracking is essential part of their usage....
I get all the the notification from yahoo mail and gmail. I receive and reply to my wifes text messages without ever having to pick up my n6.And I can listen to music without my phone.
I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.
TheGSL said:
I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.
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Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
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tu3218 said:
Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
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Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
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I really hope, that Sony (and google) will release new version of wear OS much faster then new version of Android.... Because v 5.0 Lollipop was released more then year after 4.4 I am little bit afraid, because Google synchronized numbering of version od Android and Wear OS.
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Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
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If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
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True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
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Exactly! I'm still waiting for an all in one as well. But I think the Sony watch does a decent job in doing it all. There's not one out there though that does it all prefect yet either. It's really either a smart watch with some fitness features or a fitness band that excels in step counting, etc but with no smartphone extension. Maybe with updates it'll get better. I think it's more a limitation of google fit software in lollipop in its algorithm in calculating steps rather than Sony.
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Same here, no any problems exept the same (steps are inaccurate, cards are uneditabe etc) and the sleep tracker never works, exept today, im bit sick so i slept like 18 hours barely moving at all (must sleep on my back so i can breath) and when i woke up and checked SW3, It said my daily sleeping goal was suceeded ! then i checked lifelog and there it was, 14:11 sleep last night ! not really accurate but something at least and it actually works, i dunno how it counts it sleeping or how it now decided to work but man it does something... i thing it has something to do with not moving much (but still some) at a certain period of time before it thinks you are sleeping...
freewing70 said:
Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?
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Can you please share the link Petr mentioned to you for Sleep as Android updates?
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Hmm. According to the release notes, this version of Sleep As Android made yesterday includes a fix for the Smartwatch 3. I'm not seeing it in the Play store yet, but I guess that's probably coming soon. I installed the apk to test it out and got some conflicting information. When I started sleep tracking the notification on the phone says "Sorry, SmartWatch 3 is not yet fully supported!", however, the chart in the app shows movement from the watch's accelerometer. Seems like it should work, but I guess I won't know for sure until tomorrow morning.
I'm trying asap and will let you know.
I even get the message about SWR50 (not fully suported): I think it is because of huge battery drain.
It seems to have worked perfectly. My only complaint is that the Lucid dreaming vibrations woke me up, but that is neither here nor there.
I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.
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I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.
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Oh. So I guess it's kind of subjective at this point. I consider it usable, I just have to put the watch on the charger a half hour before bed so I know it has enough charge for the night.
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Ive been looking for a good workout app + workout monitor. Jawbone seems to be pretty cool but ive checked all my local stores and no one sells it. Anyone use this personally or any other measuring device that syncs with your phone? Suggestions? Reviews?
Thanks!
I got a new one off CL for <$100. I like it. They sell them at Apple stores of all places and this guy worked there so was just making a little extra money on the side with his discount.
There aren't a whole lot of choices out there for Android users in this area. I think the Fidbit is the only other option. The Fidbit uses bluetooth to sync which a lot of people seem to like but I think it's a negative as you are forced to use unnecessary battery power from your phone. The upside is you can sync to your laptop or computer. The UP syncs with your phone via the headphone jack.
You've probably read about all the features so I won't list them again. It is not a heart beat monitor; it uses motionX technology, 3-axis accelerometer I believe, to monitor your "steps". It's best to wear on your non-dominant arm so you don't register as many fake steps. I really like the sleep mode as it tells you how long it took you to fall asleep, how many hours of light sleep, deep sleep, how many times you woke up, and it has a vibrating smart alarm that will wake you up at your alarm time +/- a certain number of minutes you set so it can try to wake you up during light sleep instead of deep sleep.
The app is well made and looks good with many graphing options to see trends in your steps, calorie intake, mood, sleep, etc. It also allows you to add your food for the day and add nutritional information if you can't find your food in their database. However, after using the myfitnesspal app for quite a while I find it is easier to use, better laid out, and has a much bigger database of foods, mostly because so many users have uploaded nutritional information for so many different foods. I find myself still using myfitnesspal instead of the built in UP food logging, but maybe I'm resisting change and haven't given it a fair chance.
The battery really does last a long time, 8-10 days per charge.
I'm happy with it, will continue to use it and hope they will improve their food logging database. I'm not sure I'd pay $130+ tax for it but maybe I'm cheap. Take a look on your local CL.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...aby-step-toward-truly-powerful-wearable-tech/
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Ive been looking for a good workout app + workout monitor. Jawbone seems to be pretty cool but ive checked all my local stores and no one sells it. Anyone use this personally or any other measuring device that syncs with your phone? Suggestions? Reviews?
Thanks!
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Bought mine off CL for $65 (REALLY good deal). Liking it so far. Went for the UP because it tracks sleep as well as steps, eating, mood, etc. And the android app was a must. Had this for a week and a half and am really liking the data provided.
Now my UP band is telling me it's time to MOVE again; gotta go. Good luck!
Just bought mines from best buy today. I had some stuff that I needed to return so I figured I would just exchange the stuff for the UP. I was really considering the fitbit flex but best buy was out of stock everywhere in my area so I figured I would try the UP and exchange for the flex later on once they are in stock and if I'm not happy with the UP. I'm really looking to be more conscious of my physical activities that's why I decided to go with one of these bands.
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How's the jawbone quality? I saw tons of posting in Amazon that said the DOA rate for it is really high...
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How's the jawbone quality? I saw tons of posting in Amazon that said the DOA rate for it is really high...
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I've seen several posts saying the same thing in the UP forums. For me, with a used band, it's been working flawlessly for over two months.
Based on what I've read, I would try to buy from an Authorized retailer, or Jawbone itself. It appears as though they will immediately exchange any defective band if you do so. HTH
I am searching Jawbone site and it said that it is compatible with SELECT phones only. Not sure what makes it so, but I have a Galaxy Note and since the Jawbone Up does not have Bluetooth (Galaxy Note only have Bluetooth 3.0, not 4.0), what is it that will make this thing NOT working for other phone like the Galaxy Note?
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I am searching Jawbone site and it said that it is compatible with SELECT phones only. Not sure what makes it so, but I have a Galaxy Note and since the Jawbone Up does not have Bluetooth (Galaxy Note only have Bluetooth 3.0, not 4.0), what is it that will make this thing NOT working for other phone like the Galaxy Note?
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It syncs through the audio jack, not Bluetooth. There are some older phones that it won't sync with for some reason and at one point it was having trouble with the HTC One - but I think that was fixed in an update. I would download the app and have it on my phone when I went shopping - that way you could test to make sure it would sync before you plopped down your hard-earned cash.
Also, FWIW, I found the app and sideloaded it onto my Galaxy Tab 8.9. (Google Play said it wasn't compatible.) Works okay, but some of the graphics are a little off.
I have a Bodymedia Link that works great. It syncs via Bluetooth and you can upload the data via your phone to their website. Mine was $99 and came with a six month subscription to the website. (The subscription thing kept me away from this device, but depending on where you buy it (like Costco), you can get up to a year's subscription free.)
Here's a link to their site, but I purchased my BM via eBay:
http://www.bodymedia.com
I also have a FitBit and the numbers seem pretty consistent between the two - but I prefer the BodyMedia. I think Jawbone recently purchased BodyMedia.
Here's a recent comparison article on activity trackers:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404445,00.asp
LG is supposed to come out with a pretty impressive tracker. Waiting to hear if it tracks sleep as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/09/lgs-smart-activity-tracker-hands-on/
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Ive been looking for a good workout app + workout monitor. Jawbone seems to be pretty cool but ive checked all my local stores and no one sells it. Anyone use this personally or any other measuring device that syncs with your phone? Suggestions? Reviews?
Thanks!
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UP by Jawbone is more fashion than FTBIT,but more better .
http://www.topbestreviews.org/top-2-up-by-jawbone-review/
I finally put the google fit app on my phone and I like the views it provides but noticed a problem.
In the settings if I don't have activity detection on then it doesn't show anything coming from my smart watch (Moto 360). If I turn it on it seems to only use the sensors in the phone and ignores the watch.
Perfect test - set the phone on the counter jump on the treadmill and run a few miles. Fit app shows no steps during that time and resyncs the moto 360 to display it's #s.
I'm looking to have that style app interface but running off the Moto 360's data not an internal phone pedometer. Is this something Fit can do or does anyone have another app?
Thanks for the help.
I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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Well that straight up sucks... I guess I'll remove it. Any thoughts on an app that is properly compatible? It seems motorola is trying with Moto Body, but they have nothing on the app side to use.
I had to do exactly this. Not only was Fit not registering my steps, I think that it was actually also draining my battery faster. Since I've removed it, my battery life is up 40-50%. Food for thought.
As for Moto Body, I was loath to use it at first. But, with a bit of time, it's actually grown on me. The HR monitor seems to be faster and I like the presentation of steps, calories, miles, etc. (I'm talking about the new version with Moto Connect update.)
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Well that straight up sucks... I guess I'll remove it. Any thoughts on an app that is properly compatible? It seems motorola is trying with Moto Body, but they have nothing on the app side to use.
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I had to do exactly this. Not only was Fit not registering my steps, I think that it was actually also draining my battery faster. Since I've removed it, my battery life is up 40-50%. Food for thought.
As for Moto Body, I was loath to use it at first. But, with a bit of time, it's actually grown on me. The HR monitor seems to be faster and I like the presentation of steps, calories, miles, etc. (I'm talking about the new version with Moto Connect update.)
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I agree on the battery life thing as well and the phone side of the moto body stuff..... Now if they'd just build the rich app side I'd be happy... Fit started with that but humped the device part.
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I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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It's the same issue with the LG G watch, and probably the rest of Wear smartwatches. Google Fit is still a half baked product, we'll have to wait till they get things sorted out (hopefully with Wear 2.0?! )
i have some problem. anyone find solution meanwhile ?
Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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I'm not seeing this, even after an update.
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Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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Fit got updated with standalone step counts, on the watch, but still doesn't export properly to a connected phone. Hopefully they fix it soon.
What he said....
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Fit got updated with standalone step counts, on the watch, but still doesn't export properly to a connected phone. Hopefully they fix it soon.
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Right. On the Google fit website, they claim that they sync. I left a comment that it does not.
So if more folks voice their concerns, something will be done sooner.
Wow, and this still doesn't work. ?
still not fixed... way to go Google...
update to this. i recently updated my phone from stock 4.4.4 to 5.02, however, I did not install Google Fit. yesterday, I decided to try re-installing it since we got a software update on the watch recently. as soon as I installed Google Fit, I noticed that my phone downloaded all of my steps history from my watch! very glad to see this. so now we'll see how the activity detection impacts the battery on my phone today.
so I'm not sure if the syncing working now is due more to the recent watch software update or my phone being on lollipop. can someone that has kitkat on their phone/device confirm?
thanks!
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update to this. i recently updated my phone from stock 4.4.4 to 5.02, however, I did not install Google Fit. yesterday, I decided to try re-installing it since we got a software update on the watch recently. as soon as I installed Google Fit, I noticed that my phone downloaded all of my steps history from my watch! very glad to see this. so now we'll see how the activity detection impacts the battery on my phone today.
so I'm not sure if the syncing working now is due more to the recent watch software update or my phone being on lollipop. can someone that has kitkat on their phone/device confirm?
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I'm on lolli and mine still doesn't work
So after 2 years Fit is still broken. I only see steps when I carry my phone with me. Leave it on the counter, and run around with my moto360 I see the counter go up on my watch and in the MotoBody app but not in the fit app. I've uninstalled, reinstalled all of the apps and reconnected them. Fit just doesn't work with connected counters. So I uninstalled it and won't look back.
Does anyone know if we have wifi built in. I've heard people say all the Snapdragon 400 have it built in. I know some will not care about this because it may turn out to being a battery sucking update. But a may be a good update for others.
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Does anyone know if we have wifi built in. I've heard people say all the Snapdragon 400 have it built in. I know some will not care about this because it may turn out to being a battery sucking update. But a may be a good update for others.
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Wifi is not available on all Snapdragon 400 processors. I am sure they used one that does not have it for costs. Even if it was available the antennas wouldn't be there. Would be nice though.
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Great question! I've been trying to find an answer to it since the article ran on Google turning on wifi for android wear devices. Looking at Qualcomm's page on the ZenWatch, they "link" it to a picture of the Snapdragon 400 (bottom of the page) and say that Snapdragon 400 processors support 4G LTE, and when you look at the following picture of the chip at their page for the ZenWatch (I cannot post links yet), you see that the LTE and Wifi share the same space on the chip. However, depending on where you look you see that the Zenwatch is running either the 8026 or 8226, and the 8026 is said to not support wifi. Then, Techtimes says that the Zenwatch, Gear Live, and the Urbane all support Wifi..
The truly odd piece of it is that according to the article on The Verge- "Most Android Wear watches already have Wi-Fi built in, so a simple software update should activate the feature for them." (I cant post links yet). The only watch that I can see that actually supports it is the Sony 3. Most of the other watches seem to share the Qualcomm 400 chipset, but I doubt anybody will know which actually supports wifi until Google "turns" it on. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Zenwatch will though!!
Fantastic research.
This may be of interest:
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...-gesture-control-and-wi-fi-support-report.htm
"Many smartwatches running on Android Wear, including the Samsung Gear Live, the Asus ZenWatch, and the LG Watch Urbane, are powered by a Snapdragon chip that has a built-in Wi-Fi module, so a simple firmware update should immediately activate Wi-Fi in these devices."
Especially good news considering this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/andro...will-get-new-phones-free-features-next-update
Hopefully Asus activates it... :fingers-crossed:
Looks like there won´t be Wifi for us... :crying:
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/21/lg-g-watch-missing-wifi/
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Looks like there won´t be Wifi for us... :crying:
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/21/lg-g-watch-missing-wifi/
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Sadly enough I read the same thing after upating this morning. I feel kinda left out not having wifi
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Sadly enough I read the same thing after upating this morning. I feel kinda left out not having wifi
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So you got the update already?
With this not having wifi (admittedly not an advertised feature), the poor looking ambient display, and being locked down completely, I am starting to get buyers remorse.
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With this not having wifi (admittedly not an advertised feature), the poor looking ambient display, and being locked down completely, I am starting to get buyers remorse.
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I disagree. Not to go off-topic, but I feel like I'm getting a decent amount of utility for the $200 I spent. The appearance is great (and I get lots of compliments on it) and the battery life is good enough. I'm not really sure the wifi feature is going to be that useful. Don't we all keep our phones in our pockets 24x7 anyway?
I am looking forward to being able to draw text message responses. It sounds dumb, but if you're in a loud place (and can't use the voice actions) being able to quickly draw an "okay" or "no" response is going to be great.
I'm happy with the Zen watch; I only have found a few issues, one being the BT range is just a little too short. WiFi would have helped with that, but I'm still very happy with it.
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Looks like there won´t be Wifi for us... :crying:
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/21/lg-g-watch-missing-wifi/
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So you got the update already?
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yes just checked the app on my phone and it said update so I did, turned on the wifi cloud sync and surely it didn't work.
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With this not having wifi (admittedly not an advertised feature), the poor looking ambient display, and being locked down completely, I am starting to get buyers remorse.
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I felt the same way, wifi wasn't advertise but neither was it few a other phones but was still activated when updated. I felt a bit inferior when it didn't work for me and saw that it works for just about every other watch. yes my phone is in my pocket most of the time but I work IT in a hospital and sometimes I forget my phone at my desk and on the charger and my watch is disconnected, I was looking forward to still having connection.
I did pick up this watch over all others due to the look mostly, it was the best looking watch hands down without looking too geeky.
wifi - atleast 24hr battery life without having to dumb it down, and edge to edge screen (not so much bezel) would have made the watch perfect for me. oh and heart rate sensor on the back and not the two finger on the edge bit.
Personally I wish they would have just eliminated the heart rate feature. None of the heart rate monitors on the wear watches are that accurate, and the cost savings on this model in particular could have been used to implement a wifi antenna. Unfortunately everybody is on the wellness device hype train.
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yes just checked the app on my phone and it said update so I did, turned on the wifi cloud sync and surely it didn't work.
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There's actually two parts to the update: the Android Wear app on your phone - and the actual firmware on the watch and to the best of my knowledge, the update for the watch itself isn't out yet.
Correct, the watches need the firmware update which hasn't started yet. Given that its only one site reporting I think wed be best advised to see what happens when the update comes
There is an antenna!
Bluetooth and wifi can share the same antenna!!! Most smartphones and tablets do. Looked at the internals of the s3-s5 and some other devices and they seemingly share the same antenna. That's my understanding anyway. Because the wifi and bluetooth are on the same chip, something in the hardware allows the two to coexist on the same antenna. They operate in the same frequency range so I imagine it does some switching in the hardware.
If our watches don't get Wifi, I really don't believe it's a hardware limitation. I wish there was a tear down for the zenwatch, as I've seen it for every other watch. I'm not brave enough to take mine apart.
Someone fact check! Hope I'm not wrong
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I've read that the urbane has an Snapdragon 8026 and mostly the same innards as the G Watch R. If its getting WiFi then surely other watches using the same processor will be supported.
kellybrf said:
Correct, the watches need the firmware update which hasn't started yet. Given that its only one site reporting I think wed be best advised to see what happens when the update comes
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watch is on 5.0.2 and software on 1.1.1.1876095
still no wifi
ALpHaMoNk said:
watch is on 5.0.2 and software on 1.1.1.1876095
still no wifi
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correct, the update has not rolled out to any devices yet
I've just received my new N1 (with Play Store pre-installed!) and have also pre-bought a couple of cases from ebay which both state they are smart cases which have sleep/wake functionality. The problem is that neither cases works having no effect on the tablet at all.
So I'm wondering if the tablet itself actually has this functionality. If it doesn't it will be a real deal breaker for me. I am not going back to endlessly clicking to sleep a tablet, especially the amount of times I use it every day.
I can, in fact, answer my own question here and for anyone else wondering as I've sent out a few emails and have now got the responses.
I can confirm that the N1 DOES NOT have sleep/wake functionality! Astonishing that such a basic rudimentary feature wasn't installed on this tablet. I can also conform that it will not make an audible sound when plugged in to charge to confirm charging is activated/on, you know, like every other contemporary phone or tablet!
If you couple this with the lack SD Card expandability and their idiotic marketing/sales program for this tablet you can only say that Nokia have scored one massive own-goal.
It's so disappointing for a tablet which showed plenty of promise. The only option now looks to wait for Asus Zenpad 8 S with 4gb storage. Now THIS is what Nokia should have been making.
Double tap screen can wakeup.
I believe that it should came native with Android M. So hopefully it will get it.
If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy the n1 that it came with the play store?
Looking for one...
Sent from my z3 compact.
buy from china, it's china version so I do root and install gapps with temporary recovey mode.
Have you rooted your N1?
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I believe that it should came native with Android M. So hopefully it will get it.
If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy the n1 that it came with the play store?
Looking for one...
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Bought one of these.... http://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/nokia-n1-32gb-wifi-silver-en-2.html It comes pre-installed with all standard Google apps inc. Play Store. No need to root etc.
The feature may come native within Android M but if the device doesn't have the requisite hardware (magnet) then surely it just won't work. Such a massive oversight by Nokia.
I must pick up my tablet twenty times a day for both work and social and tbh I'm not going to start endlessly doubling tapping, it's so 2010. I've got used to the 'instant on' experience having owned numerous Samsung phones and tabs and also the MiPad so I'm not going back. I'll wager the Asus ZePad will come with it installed.
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Bought one of these.... http://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/nokia-n1-32gb-wifi-silver-en-2.html It comes pre-installed with all standard Google apps inc. Play Store. No need to root etc.
The feature may come native within Android M but if the device doesn't have the requisite hardware (magnet) then surely it just won't work. Such a massive oversight by Nokia.
I must pick up my tablet twenty times a day for both work and social and tbh I'm not going to start endlessly doubling tapping, it's so 2010. I've got used to the 'instant on' experience having owned numerous Samsung phones and tabs and also the MiPad so I'm not going back. I'll wager the Asus ZePad will come with it installed.
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This review shows that it has double tap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTEh-mxOr68
go to about 7:00...
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I can, in fact, answer my own question here and for anyone else wondering as I've sent out a few emails and have now got the responses.
I can confirm that the N1 DOES NOT have sleep/wake functionality! Astonishing that such a basic rudimentary feature wasn't installed on this tablet. I can also conform that it will not make an audible sound when plugged in to charge to confirm charging is activated/on, you know, like every other contemporary phone or tablet!
If you couple this with the lack SD Card expandability and their idiotic marketing/sales program for this tablet you can only say that Nokia have scored one massive own-goal.
It's so disappointing for a tablet which showed plenty of promise. The only option now looks to wait for Asus Zenpad 8 S with 4gb storage. Now THIS is what Nokia should have been making.
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All you need is a magnet, spare yourself the emails... on the bright side we got a kernel with tap to wake, so im kind of ok with that...
GrandMasterPlank said:
I can, in fact, answer my own question here and for anyone else wondering as I've sent out a few emails and have now got the responses.
I can confirm that the N1 DOES NOT have sleep/wake functionality! Astonishing that such a basic rudimentary feature wasn't installed on this tablet. I can also conform that it will not make an audible sound when plugged in to charge to confirm charging is activated/on, you know, like every other contemporary phone or tablet!
If you couple this with the lack SD Card expandability and their idiotic marketing/sales program for this tablet you can only say that Nokia have scored one massive own-goal.
It's so disappointing for a tablet which showed plenty of promise. The only option now looks to wait for Asus Zenpad 8 S with 4gb storage. Now THIS is what Nokia should have been making.
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I purchased the tablet and I confirm it has the double tap functionality.
Amazing tablet by the way!
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I just purchased my first ever smart watch and did I make a good choice? I'm not a fitness junkey so this will be more of a watch/notification watch. Any tips that you guys have will greatly be appreciated.
Perhaps not. Samsung have made the watch half useless if you intended to just use it as a daily watch to get your call notifications. Not so long ago, all Samsung Gear S3 and Galaxy Watch users stopped receiving incoming Skype and Whatsapp call/video call notifications on their watches. I took the issue to Samsung personally and I got told this fairytale that their watches have never been receiving such notifications. As a long-time user of their watches, I know that to be a load of hogwash. So, up to you but I'd recommend returning it and get something else. It's not like receiving those notifications isn't a core function of the watch, or something. In fact, it's sometimes the only reason any of us buy it in the first place. It's also a function that any other watch can do effortlessly.
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Perhaps not. Samsung have made the watch half useless if you intended to just use it as a daily watch to get your call notifications. Not so long ago, all Samsung Gear S3 and Galaxy Watch users stopped receiving incoming Skype and Whatsapp call/video call notifications on their watches. I took the issue to Samsung personally and I got told this fairytale that their watches have never been receiving such notifications. As a long-time user of their watches, I know that to be a load of hogwash. So, up to you but I'd recommend returning it and get something else. It's not like receiving those notifications isn't a core function of the watch, or something. In fact, it's sometimes the only reason any of us buy it in the first place. It's also a function that any other watch can do effortlessly.
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I currently have the s9 and yesterday I ordered the galaxy watch and the iconx(2018) headphones together. It only made sense to order everything Samsung. But if you're suggesting returning the product, what would you recommend getting?
I know you mentioned you're not a fitness fanatic but I'll just throw this one at you, try the Fitbit Ionic. It does the important stuff and it looks good. I say that with hesitation because 'looks' becomes subjective, however, technically the watch functions rather well and excels in some areas.
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I have the galaxy watch now after having previous versions. I get Skype and WhatsApp notifications. I think the access to calls texts and emails is great. One thing you will have to search for is watch faces that have what you need on the watch face to make them easy to access.
I dont use Skype and wouldn't touch Whatsapp so I can't comment on those. Stair climbing has never worked because of the 10 ft algorithm Samsung uses but the rest of the fitness functions and GPS on my Galaxy are right on. I use them multiple times a week at the gym and they're spot on. My heart rate will match with the machines always within 1 or 2 bpm. The only thing I compare it to is my previous Fitbit and my wife's Fitbit. Fitbit makes crap and I'll never buy their junk again. Their fitness trackers are a joke so before you buy, make an account there and read through their community posts.
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I dont use Skype and wouldn't touch Whatsapp so I can't comment on those. Stair climbing has never worked because of the 10 ft algorithm Samsung uses but the rest of the fitness functions and GPS on my Galaxy are right on. I use them multiple times a week at the gym and they're spot on. My heart rate will match with the machines always within 1 or 2 bpm. The only thing I compare it to is my previous Fitbit and my wife's Fitbit. Fitbit makes crap and I'll never buy their junk again. Their fitness trackers are a joke so before you buy, make an account there and read through their community posts.
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Very honest opinion.. and i would add that sometimes when i ride a bike it counts as i m doing cycling
cwb1231 said:
I have the galaxy watch now after having previous versions. I get Skype and WhatsApp notifications. I think the access to calls texts and emails is great. One thing you will have to search for is watch faces that have what you need on the watch face to make them easy to access.
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Is there a way to get free watch faces kinda like paid apps for free?
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I dont use Skype and wouldn't touch Whatsapp so I can't comment on those. Stair climbing has never worked because of the 10 ft algorithm Samsung uses but the rest of the fitness functions and GPS on my Galaxy are right on. I use them multiple times a week at the gym and they're spot on. My heart rate will match with the machines always within 1 or 2 bpm. The only thing I compare it to is my previous Fitbit and my wife's Fitbit. Fitbit makes crap and I'll never buy their junk again. Their fitness trackers are a joke so before you buy, make an account there and read through their community posts.
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So stick to the Samsung watch?
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Is there a way to get free watch faces kinda like paid apps for free?
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Yes, there are plenty of free watch faces on Galaxy Apps and if you don't find what you want you can try apps like facer or watchmaker, plus if you want it you could use the Galaxy Watch Designer app on your pc to make your custom watch faces.
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RussianSolja said:
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I would say that it's something only you can answer.
For me the galaxy watch is great because it fits all my needs.
I get all the notifications I really need from work, family and friends and I can answer them but it's mostly calls, emails and WhatsApp messages(I do check out the notifications from social media but only to see if It can be interesting to check on the phone or pc).
It also tracks all the workout I do and I can store all the music I need for it so I can go out and do it without any need of my phone.
I know people that need less things from a smartwatch and could do fine with a less expensive one from any other brand, meanwhile other people need or want to use some apps that don't work great with a Samsung watch and choose either a android or apple watch to make it work better with the phone they have.
You should check what you want from a smartwatch and look if a Samsung watch is really what suits your needs.
Feel free to ask more things if you want.
I had several different models. S3 was too big for my hand and stopped working three times. In addition, Samsug's heart rate measurement is bad, you can not measure the heart rate and walk. FitBit is great for fitness but is ugly. There is not too much apps, you can not personalize the watch too much. Some activities recorded only after 10 minutes. My husband has a Garmin tactix and that's the best watch I've ever seen. Unfortunately, the watch is too big for my tight hand. The battery is much better, heart rate measurement is more precise, sleep tracking is better.... I'm impressed
The 1 problem I had with all other watches was i couldn't go all day on a charge with everything turned on.
This one does. Nuff said. For that, it's worth it.