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Sony Smartwatch

Well I was thinking about getting this Sony Smartwatch for use with the Galaxy Note (International version).
Any tips/suggestions to if it is good or not?
Also does the watch itself have a speaker? (either for the hour beeps or just playing music.)
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depends on what you plan to do with it. the sony smartwatch MN2 isnt too bad. it has a lot of features i'd probably use. the only thing i didnt like about it is that it cant do much of anything unless it is bluetooth sync'd to a phone. heck, the clock function wont even work unless its sync'd to a phone, which seems kinda pathetic to me for a device that has 'watch' in its name. just for that reason alone, i'd probably choose a pebble or motoactv.

The watch actualy keeps time even if/after bluetooth disconnected. It just needs an initial sync to give it the right time in the first place.
Use search or look further down this exact forum to see a longer thread about this watch.
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Thats good to know because its definitely not true of the LiveView and the main thing that stops me from using it on a day to day basis.

have ordered Sony SmartWatch, will get it in some days, anyone using it with note please share your experience and any tips. Also if there is any other thread with more info please provide link.

npras42 said:
Thats good to know because its definitely not true of the LiveView and the main thing that stops me from using it on a day to day basis.
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My Liveview keeps time ok when it loses connection

[Q] New nexus 7 and an always on mic

I am just curious if any one think there is any chance it will have the feature that the moto x does with the always on mic.
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I dont think this feature would be nearly as useful as on a mobile phone.

I think the mic is always on because of Google Now and the ability to do voice commands at will.
Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad. I'd rather see a dedicated voice button then always on mic. Not only for security but also because if it is always on, then it is always processing. Seems like a waste of resources 99% of the time.
Just grab a Bluetooth headset and press the button on the unit, and it will ask for a command. At least mine does.
Plus what's next? Always on video? A Google employee moving into my house? Cats and dogs, living together?
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Requills said:
I dont think this feature would be nearly as useful as on a mobile phone.
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It wouldn't be but....... Still nice to have.
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JustusIV said:
I am just curious if any one think there is any chance it will have the feature that the moto x does with the always on mic.
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I dont think so, it might be a moto x only feature.

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Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad.
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That has to be the stupidest thing i have heard someone say.
Does your TV have a remote. What are you lazy to walk to your TV?
Its an evolution of technology. Why should i have to touch it when i could NOT touch it.
I am not huge on voice controls because if i am already touching my device i would rather just do it with my finger.
If i don't have to even look at my phone to send a message or skip a song then why would I.

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That has to be the stupidest thing i have heard someone say.
Does your TV have a remote. What are you lazy to walk to your TV?
Its an evolution of technology. Why should i have to touch it when i could NOT touch it.
I am not huge on voice controls because if i am already touching my device i would rather just do it with my finger.
If i don't have to even look at my phone to send a message or skip a song then why would I.
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ROFL
Even Star Trek's communicators on their shirts have to be pressed. And Star Trek knows the future better then we do. Nuff said.
Btw I'm only half serious.
Something like Google Glass, I understand IF it was paired to YOUR VOICE. But a phone...? It doesn't need to be listening every second just to grab 1 or 2 commands. Have you ever tried using Google Now in a noisy environment. I can only see my phone grabbing all sorts of random commands and doing random acts. Pass on that.
Even Google Glass reviews show it picking up commands from others and screwing things up.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/14/fred-armisen-google-glass/
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"Learning exactly what you can and can't say to Glass takes some time, and I struggled to teach him the commands because the headset was constantly listening to me, sitting next to him."
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Looks like all the new droids released today got the feature so. Obviously I am not the only one that thinks it's a required step for voice commands. Also in star trek while the touched their communicators didn't they just talk to the computers?
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player911 said:
I think the mic is always on because of Google Now and the ability to do voice commands at will.
Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad. I'd rather see a dedicated voice button then always on mic. Not only for security but also because if it is always on, then it is always processing. Seems like a waste of resources 99% of the time.
Just grab a Bluetooth headset and press the button on the unit, and it will ask for a command. At least mine does.
Plus what's next? Always on video? A Google employee moving into my house? Cats and dogs, living together?
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In my house,cats and dogs are living together.
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I was under the impression the always on mic was powered by different hardware specs ie: the super low voltage battery when sleeping and a low power mic. Seems like this will be hard to implement for many devices without these hardware features.

I think always on mic is a moto thing, dealing with their custom made snapdragon aka "motorola x8 computing system", has a whole core dedicated to it, and another dedicated to gestures. I think current devices could do it fine, but battery life would suffer without motorolas software and hardware tweaks.
Of course I don't really know, that's just my guess. Guess we'll all find out next week
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Cor-master said:
I think always on mic is a moto thing, dealing with their custom made snapdragon aka "motorola x8 computing system", has a whole core dedicated to it, and another dedicated to gestures. I think current devices could do it fine, but battery life would suffer without motorolas software and hardware tweaks.
Of course I don't really know, that's just my guess. Guess we'll all find out next week
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I have my new Nexus 7 in hand. I am pretty sure that is a moto only feature but i bet we see all the big players picking it up in the future.

The always on MIC is monitored by a dedicated low power core on the Moto X. N7 doesn't have that chip.

KREYOS Smartwatch on Indiegogo

Hey guys,
I saw this smartwatch on Indiegogo the other day and I think it's pretty sweet.
http://igg.me/at/kreyos/x/2722203
Looking at the specs sheet alone its definitely something.
What do you guys think? Get it or wait till more is out?

I'm holding out for the nexus watch
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do you really think Google will concentrate on a watch instead of their Google Glass? I think they just might skip the watch...

juinny said:
do you really think Google will concentrate on a watch instead of their Google Glass? I think they just might skip the watch...
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How many people do you think work there...... im sure they have tons of projects going on. Like the self driving cars. I thought i read some where the watch was a for sure thing.
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mito8485 said:
How many people do you think work there...... im sure they have tons of projects going on. Like the self driving cars. I thought i read some where the watch was a for sure thing.
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Well if that's the case, I doubt it'll be anytime soon. Seeing as there hasn't really been any leaks for a Google smartwatch so far.
Kreyos it is....for now.

I love the voice search thing. Hopefully it has full support for Google Now. A watch is useless without voice recognition.
However, I like to be able to stream music remotely to it and plug in my 3.5mm headphones. I know that's asking a bit much, but I think it's somewhat reasonable. Does anybody else think that should be a thing?
I'll wait for a Nexus watch. Google will have the most optimized watch for Android. Hopefully.

I backed this up the first day it was on indiepop. We'll see come november how it works with android phones. Even if an nexus watch does come out, I highly doubt it'll have a speaker, voice control AND be waterproof.

Ive been looking for a good smart watch for a while, have been waiting to see what comes about.
The nexus one i cant see coming out for a good 6 months + yet,
The new sony watch looks gorgeous but function is a bit boring, the greykos function looks good but i think
it looks ugly!

I thought so too at first, but I guess the design grew on me.
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Kraize said:
I backed this up the first day it was on indiepop. We'll see come november how it works with android phones. Even if an nexus watch does come out, I highly doubt it'll have a speaker, voice control AND be waterproof.
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I wish I knew about it first day. I'd get it without any hesitation.

sauprankul said:
A watch is useless without voice recognition.
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Take that Casio!

Xalies said:
Take that Casio!
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Haha. Smartwatch was implied, my good man. There is no way a watch can achieve its full potential if you can't enter text into it.
I've been using Casio watches for like the past 10 years. Great stuff, but I'm ready to make the switch to Smartwatches.

Just went ahead and the pledged for it.. Hopefully it's worth the 129$
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Been a fair while since the last post here, but just to let anyone seeing this know Kreyos STILL haven't sent out these damn watches.
The first 5000 have been sent via ship to the US but now have apparently been stopped by the US longshoreman contract negotiations, this being the fourth delay in shipping.
I've backed out and bought a Gear Live watch instead.
Android Wear shows far more promise than Kreyos' watches and I suggest anyone that wants their watch before Smartwatches are a thing of the past should just ask for a refund and get something that can actually ship before hell freezes over.

Unfortunately, it looks like I will be returning my Moto 360

It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.

mzimmer88 said:
It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.
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Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \

Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Misery loves company, I suppose.... That may explain why Motorola support was hardly helpful.

Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.

interested.
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
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Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.
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Lol you guys think that's bad? You can just cycle bluetooth and it reconnects right?
I'm using the 360 with an ancient GS2 with CM-11 on it, and my bluetooth module is dying or something because it will disconnect the watch > then turn off bluetooth > and only way to re-enable is to restart the GS2 lol
My watch is more powerful than my phone... no update will fix that!

OrionNE said:
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
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20 minutes in and so far so good. Ha!
I will let more time go by before I do a real update. Off the bat, the difference I noticed is that the status bar just says "connected," rather than "connected, running sync loop." Not sure if that means anything.

I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.

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Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Don't experience disconnect on my g watch unless I wander away from my phone.

Crazypinoy9 said:
I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.
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ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...

Hour 4, minute 9. No disconnects to be reported. An uneasy calmness fills the air.

I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.

kronium said:
I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.
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Sadly, I just returned my moto 360 today. I got constant disconnects on Bluetooth as well, but that actually didn't bother me. For me, it was the battery life. I got tired of charging it once in the middle of the day, everyday.
Also, I think Android wear is just not up to par yet...
My last watch was the Gear 2, & I agree that it's a much better watch and much better operating system. I got spoiled by 3 to 4 days worth of battery life and a beautiful screen- it just happens to be square... Also, the IR blaster is just too damn cool and useful!
I liked the round watch so much, that my next SmartWatch will probably be the LG G watch R. I'm hoping that they learn a lesson from Motorola and fix some of the problems that the moto 360 had. I'm also hoping that it is easier to modify and we can have a better experience with Android wear. I think I'm going to stick with Android Wear- after all, I remember the Android operating system was pretty bad when it first came out too...
Lastly, I just think it's ridiculous to have a watch that has the display turned off most of the time. I know someday in the future (soon) we will look back and laugh at the fact that smart watches had to sit there with the screens turned off most the time!

moto x here. no disconnects.

S5 here and no disconnects either.

I have an N5 and have experienced none of the behavior mentioned by OP. Watch stays connected unless I get out of range and reconnects smoothly when I come back within range.

gammite said:
moto x here. no disconnects.
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Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.

I have a Moto X, had a LG G watch for a week and now a moto 360 for a few days, haven't seen a single disconnect with either one.

kronium said:
Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.
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the watch has an icon it displays when it is not connected. the only time i see that icon is when i disconnect it.

maybe a replacement instead of a return?
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ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...
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Only disconnected once over 5 days (other than testing how far I could go before it would, and it's at least 4 walls away), using Moto X. Maybe just your watch is the issue, and try a replacement before a return?

How to make Google Fit use my 360 not my phone...

I finally put the google fit app on my phone and I like the views it provides but noticed a problem.
In the settings if I don't have activity detection on then it doesn't show anything coming from my smart watch (Moto 360). If I turn it on it seems to only use the sensors in the phone and ignores the watch.
Perfect test - set the phone on the counter jump on the treadmill and run a few miles. Fit app shows no steps during that time and resyncs the moto 360 to display it's #s.
I'm looking to have that style app interface but running off the Moto 360's data not an internal phone pedometer. Is this something Fit can do or does anyone have another app?
Thanks for the help.

I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.

Chris_c81 said:
I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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Well that straight up sucks... I guess I'll remove it. Any thoughts on an app that is properly compatible? It seems motorola is trying with Moto Body, but they have nothing on the app side to use.

I had to do exactly this. Not only was Fit not registering my steps, I think that it was actually also draining my battery faster. Since I've removed it, my battery life is up 40-50%. Food for thought.
As for Moto Body, I was loath to use it at first. But, with a bit of time, it's actually grown on me. The HR monitor seems to be faster and I like the presentation of steps, calories, miles, etc. (I'm talking about the new version with Moto Connect update.)
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Well that straight up sucks... I guess I'll remove it. Any thoughts on an app that is properly compatible? It seems motorola is trying with Moto Body, but they have nothing on the app side to use.
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I had to do exactly this. Not only was Fit not registering my steps, I think that it was actually also draining my battery faster. Since I've removed it, my battery life is up 40-50%. Food for thought.
As for Moto Body, I was loath to use it at first. But, with a bit of time, it's actually grown on me. The HR monitor seems to be faster and I like the presentation of steps, calories, miles, etc. (I'm talking about the new version with Moto Connect update.)
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I agree on the battery life thing as well and the phone side of the moto body stuff..... Now if they'd just build the rich app side I'd be happy... Fit started with that but humped the device part.

Chris_c81 said:
I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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It's the same issue with the LG G watch, and probably the rest of Wear smartwatches. Google Fit is still a half baked product, we'll have to wait till they get things sorted out (hopefully with Wear 2.0?! )

i have some problem. anyone find solution meanwhile ?

Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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I'm not seeing this, even after an update.

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Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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Fit got updated with standalone step counts, on the watch, but still doesn't export properly to a connected phone. Hopefully they fix it soon.

What he said....
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Fit got updated with standalone step counts, on the watch, but still doesn't export properly to a connected phone. Hopefully they fix it soon.
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Right. On the Google fit website, they claim that they sync. I left a comment that it does not.
So if more folks voice their concerns, something will be done sooner.

Wow, and this still doesn't work. ?

still not fixed... way to go Google...

update to this. i recently updated my phone from stock 4.4.4 to 5.02, however, I did not install Google Fit. yesterday, I decided to try re-installing it since we got a software update on the watch recently. as soon as I installed Google Fit, I noticed that my phone downloaded all of my steps history from my watch! very glad to see this. so now we'll see how the activity detection impacts the battery on my phone today.
so I'm not sure if the syncing working now is due more to the recent watch software update or my phone being on lollipop. can someone that has kitkat on their phone/device confirm?
thanks!

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update to this. i recently updated my phone from stock 4.4.4 to 5.02, however, I did not install Google Fit. yesterday, I decided to try re-installing it since we got a software update on the watch recently. as soon as I installed Google Fit, I noticed that my phone downloaded all of my steps history from my watch! very glad to see this. so now we'll see how the activity detection impacts the battery on my phone today.
so I'm not sure if the syncing working now is due more to the recent watch software update or my phone being on lollipop. can someone that has kitkat on their phone/device confirm?
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I'm on lolli and mine still doesn't work

So after 2 years Fit is still broken. I only see steps when I carry my phone with me. Leave it on the counter, and run around with my moto360 I see the counter go up on my watch and in the MotoBody app but not in the fit app. I've uninstalled, reinstalled all of the apps and reconnected them. Fit just doesn't work with connected counters. So I uninstalled it and won't look back.