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How bad is the battery life on this phone? (and other questions)

I have been looking for a decent mid range phone for a few weeks now. I've basically narrowed it down to the Moto G and this. I was about to purchase it when I thought to check XDA. Of course I see a massive thread about poor battery life and a few other threads mentioning it.
Just how bad is it? Will it not last me a busy day? I want this phone over the Moto G since it has a micro SD card slot but I'm not going to buy a phone if it has a poor battery life. I'm not quite sure if the battery issues are overblown or not since that tends to happen a lot.
Also, how is the performance? I hear a lot of bad things about touchwiz so I thought I'd ask. What phone of the two would you recommend?

Yaceka said:
I have been looking for a decent mid range phone for a few weeks now. I've basically narrowed it down to the Moto G and this. I was about to purchase it when I thought to check XDA. Of course I see a massive thread about poor battery life and a few other threads mentioning it.
Just how bad is it? Will it not last me a busy day? I want this phone over the Moto G since it has a micro SD card slot but I'm not going to buy a phone if it has a poor battery life. I'm not quite sure if the battery issues are overblown or not since that tends to happen a lot.
Also, how is the performance? I hear a lot of bad things about touchwiz so I thought I'd ask. What phone of the two would you recommend?
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Go read up on here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9190_galaxy_s4_mini-5375.php
It's apparently pretty good in terms of battery life, and performance is on par with the Galaxy Note II, it might 'feel' faster though, since the screen resolution is a lot smaller than the Note II.
Source: I'm getting one tomorrow, time to upgrade my Note I.

Yaceka said:
I have been looking for a decent mid range phone for a few weeks now. I've basically narrowed it down to the Moto G and this. I was about to purchase it when I thought to check XDA. Of course I see a massive thread about poor battery life and a few other threads mentioning it.
Just how bad is it? Will it not last me a busy day? I want this phone over the Moto G since it has a micro SD card slot but I'm not going to buy a phone if it has a poor battery life. I'm not quite sure if the battery issues are overblown or not since that tends to happen a lot.
Also, how is the performance? I hear a lot of bad things about touchwiz so I thought I'd ask. What phone of the two would you recommend?
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I have this phone for a few months now GT-9195 however the battery life is crappy it really is the phone hardly last 2 days on a battery with Lite to no usage ! In a busy day it last around 12 hours.
Also the build quality of the phone is not very good my phone has scratches on it already which are noticeable !
I don`t know about the Moto G ! However the phone is fast and it`s in nice form factor which was key for me as I don`t like 5" phones !

bnight said:
I have this phone for a few months now GT-9195 however the battery life is crappy it really is the phone hardly last 2 days on a battery with Lite to no usage ! In a busy day it last around 12 hours.
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I've had mine for about 5 months battery life is pretty poor on touchwiz. I charge my phone overnight when I'm asleep and have not needed to top it up since I started running various flavours of CM.
Everyone's idea of a busy day is different.
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Also the build quality of the phone is not very good my phone has scratches on it already which are noticeable !
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Saying build quality is not very good because it shows scratches is a bit harsh, most phones will get scratches which will be noticeable.
Poor build quality means bits fall off or break or stop working, which I've heard nothing about on this or any other forum.
bnight said:
I don`t know about the Moto G ! However the phone is fast and it`s in nice form factor which was key for me as I don`t like 5" phones !
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I would agree on your last comment,
I love my little Mini

I think the battery is ok, as long as you switch off the smart stay, the battery does last longer.
I agree with the last poster, having scratches does not mean it's bad quality built, may be if the phone is looked after then you won't get scratches, I have a glass screen protector and a cheap case, this has giving me about 98% protection, with only the sensor, mic and button not covered.

[Q] Need a help on a new phone.

Hi Guys!
I'm currently looking for a new phone. I can only buy midrange phones atm and since the G4 and S6 are released, I expect both of their predecessor's price will go lower. Apparently, I'm torn between the previous flagships, G3 and S5, which is still of course still capable now. I really like the G3 over the s5 but I am bothered by the battery life that most people say is bad. I mostly need the phone to school at around 12 hrs off the charger. At school I usually just text and call a few times, take pictures and notes, occasional time wasting games on breaks and also I listen to music on trips to and from school [approx 1.5 hrs of music]. My question is, will the G3's battery be capable of that amount of usage? Or will I benefit on the S5 on this? Thanks in Advance!

Captain Mark said:
Hi Guys!
I'm currently looking for a new phone. I can only buy midrange phones atm and since the G4 and S6 are released, I expect both of their predecessor's price will go lower. Apparently, I'm torn between the previous flagships, G3 and S5, which is still of course still capable now. I really like the G3 over the s5 but I am bothered by the battery life that most people say is bad. I mostly need the phone to school at around 12 hrs off the charger. At school I usually just text and call a few times, take pictures and notes, occasional time wasting games on breaks and also I listen to music on trips to and from school [approx 1.5 hrs of music]. My question is, will the G3's battery be capable of that amount of usage? Or will I benefit on the S5 on this? Thanks in Advance!
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That's very similar to my daily usage pattern and my G3 never died on me. You can expect between 4-5h of screen on time. It really depends on your signal, if you live in a poor signal area, any phone will take a hit in battery life.
The majority of people who complain about G3's battery life came from a G2 or similar phones, and they're used to getting 6+ h of screen on time. For them, it was a downgrade in the battery department.

rayiskon said:
That's very similar to my daily usage pattern and my G3 never died on me. You can expect between 4-5h of screen on time. It really depends on your signal, if you live in a poor signal area, any phone will take a hit in battery life.
The majority of people who complain about G3's battery life came from a G2 or similar phones, and they're used to getting 6+ h of screen on time. For them, it was a downgrade in the battery department.
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Now I'm starting to get really excited to get this phone more, well, another question, are there any major gripes on this phone? Also coming from an old phone with a really mediocre battery life (Xperia Sola), I think the battery life of this is definitely enough. Based on what I read before, It's mostly the battery, but as you said, based on my usage, I would get throughout the day easily, so the batteries are crossed out. Any other major thing (flaw?) you would say?

Captain Mark said:
Now I'm starting to get really excited to get this phone more, well, another question, are there any major gripes on this phone? Also coming from an old phone with a really mediocre battery life (Xperia Sola), I think the battery life of this is definitely enough. Based on what I read before, It's mostly the battery, but as you said, based on my usage, I would get throughout the day easily, so the batteries are crossed out. Any other major thing (flaw?) you would say?
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It's all relevant, some things that annoy some people might not be an issue for others, and vice versa.
For me, there are 2 things i don't like about the G3, but they are not that big of a deal, i can live with them. The first is i would've liked if the display can get a bit brighter (especially on very sunny days). The second, coming from the last 4 generations of nexus devices, i miss the software fluidity of stock android, despite that i appreciate some of the feature additions LG has thrown in their "skin".
All in all, i would take the G3 over the Galaxy S5 anytime.

Ok, I went to a local LG store in my place and played on the LG G3 a bit. The G4 was there, and I'm drooling over it, the leather back was so nice. Ok ok back to my question. After using it for a few minutes, I noticed the brightness to be low and I checked it, it was at 90%. My problem is as I am trying to increase it, there's a warning shown that the temp was high so I can't increase it more. My question is, does it happen often? The overheating?

As an LG G 3 power user I can confirm that the phone will indeed heat up from time to time, however, the phone you played with was most likely plugged in to a charger from what I can read.
Any phone that's being charged up and used at the same time will get hot, it simply puts more strain on the battery.
You should be able to get the 12 hours you need out of your device on a full charge, especially with the power save g to that come with it, however don't expect do go a full day (24hrs) without it having to hit the cradle.
I hope this helps.
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Harendotos said:
As an LG G 3 power user I can confirm that the phone will indeed heat up from time to time, however, the phone you played with was most likely plugged in to a charger from what I can read.
Any phone that's being charged up and used at the same time will get hot, it simply puts more strain on the battery.
You should be able to get the 12 hours you need out of your device on a full charge, especially with the power save g to that come with it, however don't expect do go a full day (24hrs) without it having to hit the cradle.
I hope this helps.
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Indeed it was plugged. So I guess it is indeed because of that. It's ok for me if I need to charge it everyday, as long as it can last for 12 hrs. Thanks!

Captain Mark said:
Indeed it was plugged. So I guess it is indeed because of that. It's ok for me if I need to charge it everyday, as long as it can last for 12 hrs. Thanks!
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You can expect much much much better battery life with G3 or S5 than your soon-to-be-ex-phone Xperia Sola.
Both G3 and S5 almost the same battery life, even though G3 is better in standby time.
If you buy G3, immediately update it to latest version. Your phone will not overheat ever, like mine never did
Only hard gaming for a 1hr+ time can make it overheat.

Well...Depends. I don't think it'll last for 12 hours. You get 5hours of SOT only on the lowest brightness setting, higher the brightness lower the SOT. For me in school it lasts for 8 hours max, then gotta charge it. Also it's true I'm using it most of the time for 4G so that may be why.

Tomogitarist said:
You can expect much much much better battery life with G3 or S5 than your soon-to-be-ex-phone Xperia Sola.
Both G3 and S5 almost the same battery life, even though G3 is better in standby time.
If you buy G3, immediately update it to latest version. Your phone will not overheat ever, like mine never did
Only hard gaming for a 1hr+ time can make it overheat.
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I really think it's battery life would be enough, as what you all said, also since I can manage to use my sola for that amount of time which has a ridiculously short battery life. Hahaha! XD. Also thanks for the info! I'll definitely update it, to get a taste of the lollipop's sweetness.

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Well...Depends. I don't think it'll last for 12 hours. You get 5hours of SOT only on the lowest brightness setting, higher the brightness lower the SOT. For me in school it lasts for 8 hours max, then gotta charge it. Also it's true I'm using it most of the time for 4G so that may be why.
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I only use 3g (H+ is enough for me), so definitely/ probably I can get it pass that 12 hr mark. Signal was a bit of a problem though at school, since the school is near a jail, they seem to have network jammers installed. Weird.

S6 to G4?!

Hi,
I currently have an S6 and I really want to switch over to the G4 but I see a bunch of negative issues regarding the G4. has anyone switched from the S6 and would it be worth it for me to trade over? any input would be greatly appreciated thank you.
Anyone extremely happy with their G4?

I just switched from the S6 to the G4, but I have used the G4 for less than 24 hours so I can't give an full opinion yet but I wanted the bigger screen so that is the main reason I made the switch. I will give my pro and cons later as I find things i like or don't like about the G4 I'm comparison to the S6.
Of you want root then for now stick with the S6.

It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.

I switched about 10 days ago and havent looked back. Im not really having any issues with the G4 myself.
Also, theres several threads on this matter already.

Rippley05 said:
It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.
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Amazing review thanks

Rippley05 said:
It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.
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VZW really screwed you guys. Not sure why they felt the need to strip the phone down of features, yet left the Sammy devices alone...

Th3Bill said:
VZW really screwed you guys. Not sure why they felt the need to strip the phone down of features, yet left the Sammy devices alone...
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Well they strip Samsung devices too. Not usually as bad, but they did rip the Samsung Browser and app manager apps off. They were easy to replace once we got root.
I hate Verizon. They're really my only option tho. They just really over stepped their bounds on stripping the g4. Apple doesn't allow this to happen, I wish Android would tighten it up a little bit as far as that stuff goes

Barely got my G4 yesterday so I can't really give a good comparison yet. However, I did notice that the S6 is a lot smoother than the G4. Not that the G4 lags, but the difference for me was obvious from the start.
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Jesus, this is like the 5th thread on this. SEARCH
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I actually never got that new phone excitement with either one this year. Neither feels like an upgrade from my S4 except in screen size and camera. Overall I probably liked the S6 more sock vs stock, but I get better battery life with the G4. Once we get root and unlocked BL I think this will be the better device. Hopefully an update fixes some of the issues. It seems like LG rushed out a kernel that wasn't fully ready yet. I look forward to the devs improving the G4.

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I actually never got that new phone excitement with either one this year. Neither feels like an upgrade from my S4 except in screen size and camera. Overall I probably liked the S6 more sock vs stock, but I get better battery life with the G4. Once we get root and unlocked BL I think this will be the better device. Hopefully an update fixes some of the issues. It seems like LG rushed out a kernel that wasn't fully ready yet. I look forward to the devs improving the G4.
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If you don't mind, can you please tell me what some of the issues you're experiencing? I have a Nexus 6 on Verizon and I want the S6 or G4 as a second phone but, I can't decide. I've had the G2, G3, Note 3, Note 4. So I'm really torn. Both have great Camera's so I've read. I have small kids so camera is huge deal to me. Thanks.

Doogie1 said:
If you don't mind, can you please tell me what some of the issues you're experiencing? I have a Nexus 6 on Verizon and I want the S6 or G4 as a second phone but, I can't decide. I've had the G2, G3, Note 3, Note 4. So I'm really torn. Both have great Camera's so I've read. I have small kids so camera is huge deal to me. Thanks.
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If Camera is your main focus, neither will probably disappoint. I have no experience with the S6 (more a refusal to try after my experience with the Note 4 which became a disaster). I have 3 kids, so I know how ya feel about wanting a great camera experience to capture all that they do. I've taken a bunch of pictures with the G4 of my kids running, swinging, bowling in various types of light and they have come out great. I have been using auto only so far, but plan to play around with the manual mode a bit more once I have time off from work and can tinker more. S6 is supposed to be equally good in auto, but lacks the manual control and RAW ability the G4 has...though I will * that as "right now", since I am sure that Sammy will push that out once the S6 gets 5.1.

Thanks, appreciate that.

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Thanks, appreciate that.
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Anytime! Trust me, I know how hard a decision it is to choose between the 2. Ultimately what sold me was that the G4 was $80-380 cheaper depending on which S6/S6E and how much memory I wanted and LG was offering an extra battery, external charger and 32GB sdcard, and T-Mobile was giving a 128GB sdcard as well. I also think that pictures really make the device look kinda cheesy, when I felt it looks and feels better "in the hand" than pictures would indicate. I'd recommend going into a store that has both and just playing with each. Probably easiest way to make your decision.

The G4 on Verizon is seemingly fine for me. It is lasting longer in my daily routine than my LG G2 (which has been touted as having superb battery life). I really can't complain.
I don't see what Verizon pulled out except the "Themes" for the launcher or something... which I replace with Nova. Not sure about the Messaging or Keyboard, but I don't use stock Messaging. And the stock white lollipop themed keyboard is my fav. I don't know what else is missing from the others, but I am not missing it.
I am missing the stock LG Wireless Storage options from the Verizon LG G2.

Th3Bill said:
Anytime! Trust me, I know how hard a decision it is to choose between the 2. Ultimately what sold me was that the G4 was $80-380 cheaper depending on which S6/S6E and how much memory I wanted and LG was offering an extra battery, external charger and 32GB sdcard, and T-Mobile was giving a 128GB sdcard as well. I also think that pictures really make the device look kinda cheesy, when I felt it looks and feels better "in the hand" than pictures would indicate. I'd recommend going into a store that has both and just playing with each. Probably easiest way to make your decision.
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That's quite a deal.. And the dimensions of the G4 are more in the range I'm used to. If I went with the S6, it'd be an almost full inch smaller to my Nexus 6. Quite a difference when it comes to handling the phone. The S6 is still intriguing to me, maybe it's the different processor. Never had a phone that wasn't Qualcomm chipped. Thanks again for your unbiased opinions/views.

I've seem far more complaints about the s6 than the G4. Not even close.
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I bought the samsung S6 for the wife, and i got the G4 as other state: camera, display, size, battery goodies, 808 qualcomm , are really good , the display is top notch, like it better than the sammy, I just keeping at 56% and still super nice battery long day and half with moderate use as well disabled all the bloat first, as smartshare.media server and dlna/smartshare provider
Using Nova prime, smooth as hell, but NO Fast and some lag , using from my M8 the power cord to fast charge the battery it does faster but the regular LG power cable it does just fine as well, my wife get jealous of me cause the quality of pics from G4 .
Its a pleasure hold this phone 5.5 LG managed to do in small factor again that gorgeous screen, but no with the software to the end phone look so nice and for me the Samsung g6 is a better phone/user experience than G4
Edit: update G4 going back, ill get the Samsung s6 active

I had the S6 and swapped it for the G4 and it was a great decision, The S6 is a still good phone what enticed me more was the size but that's just preference and coming from a one plus it wasn't much difference and not to mention that as of now the phone can be rooted where as G4 most variants cant be, that aside the battery life is better and the camera is better. The s6 also I'm sure you are aware of has Ram issues it would use about 75% just being idle, the leather back I suppose compensates for the glass that had the S6 going for. I feel as though Touchwiz is slighty better this time around but I prefer stock android. Lastly the lack of fingerprint scanner which isn't a deal breaker to me but would of been nice to have on the G4.

Rippley05 said:
It depends. Do you play any games on your phone? Watch videos for extended periods of time? If so, the s6 is better. It manages battery better and doesn't get near as hot as the g4. If you're on Verizon, you'll also get the stripped software version, but still fully loaded with Verizon bloat. The g4 screen and camera are excellent on the g4....the s6 camera is better in some situations and not as good in others.
The s6 is also a little faster/more smooth than the g4. I'm returning mine in favor of swapping between the s6 and Note 4. My major deciding factors are battery life and stripped software features. The g4 also drops brightness to 80/90% pretty aggressively after a few minutes of use. The battery life is just pathetic. A lot of people, same as with EVERY phone, are going to claim to have 80 hours of battery with 70 hours screen on time, but it's mostly rubbish. If you wanna use your phone, full brightness, the battery will melt. It also dies on the s6 and Note 4 faster with full brightness. .but not near as fast as the g4 and it isn't near as hot either. Couple that with the terribly slow charging, and you pretty much have the functionality of a 2010 smartphone.
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do people really use their phone at max brightness? I use auto if I'm out doors otherwise less than 30 percent. Full brightness hurts my eyes.

What battery issues?

Reading all the reviews and comparisons of this phone to other flagships before I bought it, I thought I was going to be settling for sub-par battery life. I bought an extra charger for work so that I could make sure I had enough juice throughout the day.
But now, I feel like I've been lied to. This phone has the best battery life I've ever seen on a stock ROM. I'm never below 70% at the end of the day, and I average about 4-5 hours of screen-on time. My battery usage screen usually estimates that I'll get between 28-36 hours of life out of my battery. I charge it every night, so I haven't tested that.
Am I the only one? Did I get lucky? I really don't understand all the fuss I've seen about the battery.

I've only had mine a couple of days but it seems okay to me, better than my HTC One (m7). I ran it down to 20% last night after loading programs and playing with it all day, several phone calls, streaming Rhapsody for a couple of hours. I didn't check the stats but it was off the charger for about 14 1/2 hours. I have marginal cell service in the building where I work and that has always contributed to excessive battery drain. Overall I'm pleased, haven't had an LG phone since the flip days.

I think many people having battery problems are with T-Mobile. They've got a piece of support bloatware that kills the battery, and people in areas of poor coverage (T-Mobile!) will consume a lot also. Plus, both these things heat the phone up so it will charge slower.

My battery drains a lot faster when I setup few things.
In smart lock set trusted places. (this keep on checking for location every few minutes)
Enabled google now for all screens .
With these two the battery drained like open tap; disabled both of em and its very good for such a screen.

My G2 had much better battery life than the G4 . I've debloated , factory restored, turned off location, lowered brightness etc... My free battery will be coming shortly so I hope it is better

This should help answer your question. I have the worst screen on time with this phone, I hit over 3 hours maybe twice. 2 hr 30 mins is usually all i get. I attached 1000 screenshots to prove that lol. Get 4 hrs SOT easy on my M9 and Nexus 6. Fortunately, standby time is glorious on this phone.

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This should help answer your question. I have the worst screen on time with this phone, I hit over 3 hours maybe twice. 2 hr 30 mins is usually all i get. I attached 1000 screenshots to prove that lol. Get 4 hrs SOT easy on my M9 and Nexus 6. Fortunately, standby time is glorious on this phone.
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Wow! I wonder why we have such drastically different results. I'm using the Verizon variant (VS986). Which network is yours on?

flamadiddle said:
Wow! I wonder why we have such drastically different results. I'm using the Verizon variant (VS986). Which network is yours on?
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Verizon of course lol

mtva24 said:
Verizon of course lol
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Lol... I was thinking I posted this in the general (non-carrier-specific) forum.

Definitely not the g2 battery, but more than sufficient. Usually charge every other night 3-4 hours of sot. Minor debloating done.
Current stats... This is over 13 hours, went to the zoo and took a lot of pictures of the little one.
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I get the same battery usage with the G4 "stock" as I did with the G2 "ROM'd and Rooted" which I would assume after the G4 is ROM'd and Rooted it will be better.

I went almost 4 days at one point with out charging my G2. Granted it was lighter use, but still.
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This phone has the best battery life I've ever seen on a smartphone, period. And although I haven't been around for awhile, my first rooted smartphone was the HTC Evo, and there have literally been hundreds in between then, and now. So it's safe to say, that I've got my experience to be able to judge what's good and what's not. And although it's just my personal opinion, or I just got LG's one and only "super" smartphone that no one else got, and my battery is unlike anyone else's, it's highly unlikely. This battery is the shiznit, hands down. Not to mention, the LG G Pad X8.3, not to be confused with the older LG G pad 8.3, also has amazing battery life, and pretty much is just awesome all around. No lag, excellent wifi connection, excellent cellular reception, and, the specs are up to date if not advanced. Lg doing their thing right now, we just need to figure out a bootloader unlock and root, and we're good to go.

Enzopreme said:
This phone has the best battery life I've ever seen on a smartphone, period. And although I haven't been around for awhile, my first rooted smartphone was the HTC Evo, and there have literally been hundreds in between then, and now. So it's safe to say, that I've got my experience to be able to judge what's good and what's not. And although it's just my personal opinion, or I just got LG's one and only "super" smartphone that no one else got, and my battery is unlike anyone else's, it's highly unlikely. This battery is the shiznit, hands down. Not to mention, the LG G Pad X8.3, not to be confused with the older LG G pad 8.3, also has amazing battery life, and pretty much is just awesome all around. No lag, excellent wifi connection, excellent cellular reception, and, the specs are up to date if not advanced. Lg doing their thing right now, we just need to figure out a bootloader unlock and root, and we're good to go.
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Yeah, this sounds like the kind of experience I'm having, which doesn't seem to be typical from what I've read. Maybe we're just lucky.

the only time I get crappy battery life is when I am at work and that's a weak signal area. While I'm at home I easily get 4 hours screen time and still have around 20% battery left. Very happy with the battery life.

Battery life reports are always going to be subjective. You never know the full use of a device. Most people focus on data, WiFi, brightness, sot, GPS, and Bluetooth. Never really here much about what apps and what's running in the background.
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Battery life reports are always going to be subjective. You never know the full use of a device. Most people focus on data, WiFi, brightness, sot, GPS, and Bluetooth. Never really here much about what apps and what's running in the background.
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Agreed. I average only 2hr 30 mins SOT, but then, I keep my brightness on 100%, wi-fi always off. I go same settings on other phones, but get like 4 hrs, but weaker standy-by time

I'm in the same boat as the OP. I've been so surprised with all the people screaming about battery life and I'm like really? Because I haven't been able to kill this thing in a day yet. I am rarely below the 40's % mark at worst when I go to bed. I got the spare battery kit from LG but I haven't had to use it once. I suppose I'm just not as much of a power user as I once thought lol.

For those getting great battery life with 4+ hours SOT, out of curiosity, what screen brightness are you guys using? Do you have auto-brightness enabled? What apps are you actually using? etc. etc. etc.
I have found that the battery life on this phone, so far for me has been about average. No worse or better than I expected. I typically keep my brightness around 50%, have wifi on, and play a fair amount of games. I think the games running are what kills it for me for the most part. If I'm not gaming I can't possibly see using 4+ hours SOT. I get bored of reading things fairly easily.
That being said I just killed a bunch of bloatware verizon had manifested into my phone for no other reason than to make us angry. I also installed greenify to stop some background apps from running. I'm very interested to see if it gets better going forward.

Use lux from the app store for auto brightness. You can tailor to your preference.
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Battery life so far on the G4 is horrible

Is the G4 really this bad? I bought one a few days ago, coming from the G2. I'm waiting for it to settle in but damn.. this thing goes through 3000mah like a fat kid through candy. My G2, now 2 years old lasts twice as long SOT. 6 hours to 3. I just.. I want to love the 4, but it is just too power hungry. Does this beast settle down over time? I have a week more to return it for something else, and on the verge.

Since firmware v10c there's a problem with GPS sucking battery. Try setting it to “battery saving“. Perhaps this improves things...

Yeah. Read that. Shouldn't have to turn everything down or off in 2015. I so love this phone but wow. The battery is nonsense. I went to it because my G2 was/is a champ. What is going on with this thing?

The battery in the g2 is much better, but finding a flagship from 2015 with a better battery than the g4 (and a comparable camera, screen, size etc.) is impossible.
It charges more than one percent per minute with6a normal charger, and you can buy a spare battery and a fast charger but the sot isn't going to get much better than what you're expering now. It's still the best phone ever imho.

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The battery in the g2 is much better, but finding a flagship from 2015 with a better battery than the g4 (and a comparable camera, screen, size etc.) is impossible.
It charges more than one percent per minute with6a normal charger, and you can buy a spare battery and a fast charger but the sot isn't going to get much better than what you're expering now. It's still the best phone ever imho.
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I got a free battery with it, and the charging cradle. Which is nice. I guess I just got spoiled. The G2 is so awesome, and I expected this to be the same. It's not. Not even close. I bought this G4, a Note 5 and an S6 at the same time. Both Sammy's perform much better, and that pains me to say. Ugg.

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I got a free battery with it, and the charging cradle. Which is nice. I guess I just got spoiled. The G2 is so awesome, and I expected this to be the same. It's not. Not even close. I bought this G4, a Note 5 and an S6 at the same time. Both Sammy's perform much better, and that pains me to say. Ugg.
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You could help if you complain to LG about the GPS battery drain problem like me and others did already. Try “battery saving“ on GPS and post your results afterwards. With a decent screen brightness, I always get 4+ hours Screen on time. Not playing games or doing heavy battery draining tasks, though.

AlwaysLimey said:
Is the G4 really this bad? I bought one a few days ago, coming from the G2. I'm waiting for it to settle in but damn.. this thing goes through 3000mah like a fat kid through candy. My G2, now 2 years old lasts twice as long SOT. 6 hours to 3. I just.. I want to love the 4, but it is just too power hungry. Does this beast settle down over time? I have a week more to return it for something else, and on the verge.
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This is my battery stats all stock
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This is my battery stats all stock
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Man oh man, you are having better luck than I am. I might have a faulty unit, not sure, but the battery on this one is like driving an old car with a big V8. When you stomp on the gas you can literally see the gas gauge go down before your eyes. This phone is no different. My G2 was honestly 3X better than the G4. Good luck to you guys, and I mean that sincerely, I do. But I'm returning this thing. For me, at least... it is a pass.

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Man oh man, you are having better luck than I am. I might have a faulty unit, not sure, but the battery on this one is like driving an old car with a big V8. When you stomp on the gas you can literally see the gas gauge go down before your eyes. This phone is no different. My G2 was honestly 3X better than the G4. Good luck to you guys, and I mean that sincerely, I do. But I'm returning this thing. For me, at least... it is a pass.
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I get as good if not better battery life on here than my g2/g3...a few kernel tweaks with kernel adiutor and using greenify to settle hungry apps...i highly recommend keeping g4 as you won't find much better battery without a lower end processor

jamesd1085 said:
I get as good if not better battery life on here than my g2/g3...a few kernel tweaks with kernel adiutor and using greenify to settle hungry apps...i highly recommend keeping g4 as you won't find much better battery without a lower end processor
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Your g2 was defective.

jamesd1085 said:
I get as good if not better battery life on here than my g2/g3...a few kernel tweaks with kernel adiutor and using greenify to settle hungry apps...i highly recommend keeping g4 as you won't find much better battery without a lower end processor
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Kind of the point though. I shouldn't have to tweak settings, and root a brand new phone to make it work. I'm not here to bash the G4 (I own it) but it stinks.. Ok.. bashed it lol. Seriously. I have the exact same apps loaded on it as my G2 and if sucks battery like a $2 hooker. The Camera is good, not sure as great as was reported. The speaker was kind of bashed from the reviews but I think it is AWESOME! So loud. But... battery. Nope. I don't care if they give me 40 free ones to swap, I shouldn't have to.

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Your g2 was defective.
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No...my g2 got 5.5-6 hours screen on with medium use...i have gotten 5.5 to 6.5 on my g4...not defective but actually quite effective...my g3 battery was garbage...g2/g4 are masterpiece

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No...my g2 got 5.5-6 hours screen on with medium use...i have gotten 5.5 to 6.5 on my g4...not defective but actually quite effective...my g3 battery was garbage...g2/g4 are masterpiece
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That's kind of what I meant. With my debloated, greenified, taskered, tweaked and optimized g2 I got sot of up to 10 hours, the g4 gives me 4-5. Except from every test ever and every user experience, I think not even LG tries to pretend that the g4 has the slightest chance to reach sot like the g2 did. You're the first person to say so ever, so I assumed the only explanation could be that your sot on the g2 were mediocre.

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That's kind of what I meant. With my debloated, greenified, taskered, tweaked and optimized g2 I got sot of up to 10 hours, the g4 gives me 4-5. Except from every test ever and every user experience, I think not even LG tries to pretend that the g4 has the slightest chance to reach sot like the g2 did. You're the first person to say so ever, so I assumed the only explanation could be that your sot on the g2 were mediocre.
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If you got 10 hours sot with g2 you were heavily underclocked and at that rate wtf is the point...i actually got a much smoother experience and better battery life by raising the min clock on big and little cores as with the stock settings both jumped around ridiculously chewing up battery on simple processes...we shouldn't have to root to fix anything but it's never the case...and getting 21 hours out of my g4 with 6 hours sot with browsing some gaming and lots of youtube vids I'm beyond impressed...h811 has no custom kernel yet so no undervolt is present...this phone will just continue to get better imo...i cant believe the complaints i see about a device that surpasses 95% of anything on the market

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Is the G4 really this bad? I bought one a few days ago, coming from the G2. I'm waiting for it to settle in but damn.. this thing goes through 3000mah like a fat kid through candy. My G2, now 2 years old lasts twice as long SOT. 6 hours to 3. I just.. I want to love the 4, but it is just too power hungry. Does this beast settle down over time? I have a week more to return it for something else, and on the verge.
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If you don't use auto, what manual settings for brightness would you normally use on the G4 ? Mention the figure in % or the range.
Are you on wifi or data, mixed ? what share each.
i gather you are on H815.

hey there @android404 mind sharing your g2 setup for those 10 hours and screen brightness also? i'm thinking my g2 might be a lemon i never reach even 6 hours with no heavy usage but i am on stock rom and kernel and i don't even use greenify i have no problem rooting it so please can you tell me your rom kernel clocks and whatnot? thx in advance.

Update. I went for broke and did a factory reset before I was forced to return it. Seems to have made a world of difference. Now it is performing the way I would expect it too. Not as good as the G2, but not draining before my eyes. I think something must have been borked. I'm going to be cautiously optimistic atp, but I have a week more of daily use to play with it. (Might get an extension) but so far, in the last 26 hours it is night and day difference. Whew. Really didn't want to take it back.

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If you don't use auto, what manual settings for brightness would you normally use on the G4 ? Mention the figure in % or the range.
Are you on wifi or data, mixed ? what share each.
i gather you are on H815.
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Normally keep it at 60% and mix between wifi and data but 75% of time it is on wifi. H812.

Yeah. Much better. Been unplugged for 10.5 hours and sot is just over an hour. 84% battery left. Same usage before the reset and it would have already been next to dead. Something was mucked up. I take back what I said before. This is what I expected.

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Yeah. Much better. Been unplugged for 10.5 hours and sot is just over an hour. 84% battery left. Same usage before the reset and it would have already been next to dead. Something was mucked up. I take back what I said before. This is what I expected.
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Glad to hear it...i hate to see people leave for bad experience on a device that has such potential...development is slow atm but once cm gets stabilty and a few more variants have unlock/workaround this device will gain notoriety like the g2 had and the g2 was a beast...was my favorite device to date and i see the same potential here