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Last time I had installed SetCPU, I couldn't get it to work. Looks like it's been updated to support Tegra processors, and now works with the A7. It doesn't give you a choice of governors (guess the kernel doesn't support it), but you can underclock and set profiles.
I haven't had a chance to play with it enough to tell for sure, but I suspect that underclocking will help battery life. I'd be interested in finding out others' experience in this regard.
Jackpot. I was hoping this would get solved. This may be the key to unlocking another hour or so of battery life.
mmarcuse said:
Last time I had installed SetCPU, I couldn't get it to work. Looks like it's been updated to support Tegra processors, and now works with the A7. It doesn't give you a choice of governors (guess the kernel doesn't support it), but you can underclock and set profiles.
I haven't had a chance to play with it enough to tell for sure, but I suspect that underclocking will help battery life. I'd be interested in finding out others' experience in this regard.
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Have you gotten a chance to play with underclocking and profiles yet? Any results on improved battery life?
I haven't done any formal testing. Subjectively, it does seem to last longer on a charge. I have been playing with the settings to see what would be the minimum acceptable speed for flash video and found that at 450 MHz it still plays reasonably smooth. I wouldn't expect any miraculous increases in battery life from SetCPU since the processor will run at the slowest speed it can while still meeting demand, so if there is not much going on, it will run at 200 Mhz or so.
So, if you are watching video non-stop, I would expect a significant increase in battery life at the expense of smooth playback, but if you are just typing email, I don't think there will be much difference. Still, any gain is worth it.
Im using my new note 2 n7100 to play nova 3 from the play store on stock 4.1.2 the game randomly lags on some levels and
Heats the phone and screen. Restarting the phone makes it smooth again for few mins. Can anyone recomend a build prop i can use
For a better experince or config?
Mc4 lags a bit but is mostly smooth, im not using any extra apps im not rooted ram minimum use is at 533mb. thanks for the help
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Im using my new note 2 n7100 to play nova 3 from the play store on stock 4.1.2 the game randomly lags on some levels and
Heats the phone and screen. Restarting the phone makes it smooth again for few mins. Can anyone recomend a build prop i can use
For a better experince or config?
Mc4 lags a bit but is mostly smooth, im not using any extra apps im not rooted ram minimum use is at 533mb. thanks for the help
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Sorry my friend, a build prop will not work as such, the problem is the power required to run the game persistently at 30fps or 60fps.... ^__^
I have that problem with Vice City... Hot as Hell ^__^
I dont mind the heat so much but is it possible the cpu is being downclocked due to heat? Because there is sudden lag spike
But goes to normal smooth gameplay after restart. Does overheating cause this problem in nova3 and is there any way to prevent downclocking?
Nova is a gameloft game and most gameloft games aren't optimized for our Samsung Android phones. I play modern combat 4 and it doesn't run smooth most of the time. Compared to ios, which is highly optimized for gameloft games, it plays like a sideshow.
Contact gameloft and complain. It's all we can do.
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Try undervolting if you think its the cpu throttling. ..
Helps
But not the heat though. ...
Has to be some heat
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I put set cpu to run at 700mhz the game ran fine with the same lag spikes and the heat was the same. So i guess the heat is from the ram if thts possible. Its a cool phone but i wish it could stay warm and play gloft games smoothly . Im not a fan of the iphone screen or ui but i guess i have to get one. Iv written to gameloft about dark knight, wild blood and nova3 lag issues perhaps they would look into it.
On a side note is there a note 2 compatable version of 9mm?
Ok iv figured out the issue. The problem isnt so much with game its the cpu. At every lag spike the the temp has hit 60 degrees and the cpu downclock or throttle has caused the lag. Iv posted on the q n a thread for suggestion to stop throttling. Sadly this will happen in all 3d games to some extent due to the thiness of the device.
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Ok iv figured out the issue. The problem isnt so much with game its the cpu. At every lag spike the the temp has hit 60 degrees and the cpu downclock or throttle has caused the lag. Iv posted on the q n a thread for suggestion to stop throttling. Sadly this will happen in all 3d games to some extent due to the thiness of the device.
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Try using a custom kernel to undervolt or even underclock. While underclocking might not seem that much of a good idea,underclocking by say 100mhz might stop the phone from throttling (which downclocks to 800mhz) so it might be worth it. Personally I can run most games at 1.6GHz without any throttling (which for me happens at 70 degrees using Perseus)
I do not know your enviroments degree that may change the way the phone behaves. Right now it is freezing outside and 22 Celcius the room. I have no CPU backing down due to the thermal conditions even after playing Nova 3 like 40-50 mins. I normally use my phone locked at 1200 Mhz Max since it is more than enough with 640Mhz GPU but I have been using it at 1600 Mhz CPU with 533Mhz GPU and there is a little more heat on the camera side. Still it is tolerable for both my hand and the device itself. No lag so far.
Thanks for the reply im in southern chennai which is pretty similar to a summer in california. Im not sure how to downclock the gpu but the phone screen near the camera becomes really hot while gaming nova 3 or mc4. The temp shows as 56 degrees c. Iv a hard time touching the screen near the camera at tht point. The back is still ok. In india samsung does not give out refunds or exchanges so i hope there is some sort of fix for the screen heat.
Hello everyone! I am very, very happy because i bought a Nexus 7 2013 a week ago. That same night I got home from the shop I knew it was getting root permissions. So i did the rooting method with WugFreshes toolkit and it worked like a dream I must admit. TWRP and Superuser installed in a flash.
After root permissions the fun started - Custom Rom's, Mods, Tweaks you name it. I am currently using Stock Kitkat 4.4 ROM with many tweaks:
PureGraphic HD
PurePeformances
AwesomeBeats
PureAudio
I have the Franco Kernel and it's great. I have had no issues what so ever so far. It's smooth, fast and responsive. Games run extraordinary fast, I can amp up the graphics without to much frame drops, this includes games like GTA SA, GTA VC, Modern Combat 4 and N64/PS1 Emulators (and yes i own the roms :highfive. Back to the Kernel. All Wireless adapters are working (bluetooth, wifi, nfc etc), and wifi seems faster. Battery doesn't drain very fast at all, even with intensive load. But here is where my question actually is ...
I do understand that this question has been answered somewhere else in the Nexus 7 2013 forum, however can someone tell me my question in more detail? Thanks. :good:
Q. My question is, between what cpu temperatures is safe for my nexus 7 2013 to play intensive games at (etc emualtors, gta series, MC4)? What temperatures should i be alerted at. I am currently running GTA Sandreas and emulators at around 50-65 Degrese celcius (yes that's right celcius us auzzies use the metric system :silly: . )
Also if i overclocked it to 1.7GHZ then what would a stable temp be while idling and heavy load? (thanks!)
(last minute edit... Also what CPU is really used in this? People say it's an undercloked s4 pro or something? So if overcloked back to 1.7GHZ it'll be fine? Right?...)
Other information consist of:
.All the mods i said i have, stated earlier
.Franco Kernal
.Wireless devices faster tweaks
.Use 4x MSSA
.Warn at 65 Degrees Celcius
.Other small mods i can not think of...
.Stock GPU & CPU clock speeds
If anyone can ask my question A.S.A.P it would be greatly appreciated, i am currently new to XDA but not the the Android OS. And to all of you whom think Android is a terrible OS go get one of the most biggest fails since Apple Newton the iPad.
P.S The XDA forums is great, and everyone on here deserves a good old beer. If this thread violates any T&C please go right ahead and delete it. Thanks so much,
" Be nice to nerds, because chances are you will probably work for one someday" - Bill Gates.
My devices and devices i have had:
.Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830
.Galaxy S2 I900T White
.Galaxy S2 I900T Black
.Sony Xperia Z
.Pendo Pad 7
.Softwner Tablet 7"
.Huawei Acend y201
.Galaxy Nexus
.Nexus 7 2013
How come nobody has said nothing to this question?
Btw, my cpu hit 91º C this morning while I was playing nova 3 and I was using an overlay to see my gpu frequencies and usage. I think is too much.
CheyTac-12 said:
How come nobody has said nothing to this question?
Btw, my cpu hit 91º C this morning while I was playing nova 3 and I was using an overlay to see my gpu frequencies and usage. I think is too much.
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I personally wouldn't worry about cpu temp that much. All the developers of custom kernels will set the thermal limits to whatever they think is appropriate. A much bigger concern than the cpu temp is heat being conducted to the battery. I would make a point of keeping the battery below 120F and I personally don't want to see over 110F (around 45C).
wantabe said:
I personally wouldn't worry about cpu temp that much. All the developers of custom kernels will set the thermal limits to whatever they think is appropriate. A much bigger concern than the cpu temp is heat being conducted to the battery. I would make a point of keeping the battery below 120F and I personally don't want to see over 110F (around 45C).
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The overlay thing I was talking about earlier was the cause for that cpu temp, it used like 2 entire cores to function, without it, temps are more stable, can you believe that the tablet actually kinda burned my fingers if I pressed too hard? That's insane.
Now, I understand that the battery's temperature is something important, so you don't ruin your battery lifespan, but how come cpu temps don't matter as much as battery's does? What's the max temp for these devices?
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The overlay thing I was talking about earlier was the cause for that cpu temp, it used like 2 entire cores to function, without it, temps are more stable, can you believe that the tablet actually kinda burned my fingers if I pressed too hard? That's insane.
Now, I understand that the battery's temperature is something important, so you don't ruin your battery lifespan, but how come cpu temps don't matter as much as battery's does? What's the max temp for these devices?
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I'm going to "guess" and say somewhere around 100C for the cpu. Just a guess. 60C for the battery would absolutely be bad news. 50C would make me nervous. Also the cpu will start to get throttled (underclocked) once it gets up to a certain temp, And once it reaches the max temp the cpu will get shut down and you will have to wait for it to cool down before it will boot back up. I would worry about the heat affecting the motherboard and the components on that before I would worry about heat damaging the cpu.
XxAuzzi3L3g3ndx said:
Hello everyone! I am very, very happy because i bought a Nexus 7 2013 a week ago. That same night I got home from the shop I knew it was getting root permissions. So i did the rooting method with WugFreshes toolkit and it worked like a dream I must admit. TWRP and Superuser installed in a flash.
After root permissions the fun started - Custom Rom's, Mods, Tweaks you name it. I am currently using Stock Kitkat 4.4 ROM with many tweaks:
PureGraphic HD
PurePeformances
AwesomeBeats
PureAudio
I have the Franco Kernel and it's great. I have had no issues what so ever so far. It's smooth, fast and responsive. Games run extraordinary fast, I can amp up the graphics without to much frame drops, this includes games like GTA SA, GTA VC, Modern Combat 4 and N64/PS1 Emulators (and yes i own the roms :highfive. Back to the Kernel. All Wireless adapters are working (bluetooth, wifi, nfc etc), and wifi seems faster. Battery doesn't drain very fast at all, even with intensive load. But here is where my question actually is ...
I do understand that this question has been answered somewhere else in the Nexus 7 2013 forum, however can someone tell me my question in more detail? Thanks. :good:
Q. My question is, between what cpu temperatures is safe for my nexus 7 2013 to play intensive games at (etc emualtors, gta series, MC4)? What temperatures should i be alerted at. I am currently running GTA Sandreas and emulators at around 50-65 Degrese celcius (yes that's right celcius us auzzies use the metric system :silly: . )
Also if i overclocked it to 1.7GHZ then what would a stable temp be while idling and heavy load? (thanks!)
(last minute edit... Also what CPU is really used in this? People say it's an undercloked s4 pro or something? So if overcloked back to 1.7GHZ it'll be fine? Right?...)
Other information consist of:
.All the mods i said i have, stated earlier
.Franco Kernal
.Wireless devices faster tweaks
.Use 4x MSSA
.Warn at 65 Degrees Celcius
.Other small mods i can not think of...
.Stock GPU & CPU clock speeds
If anyone can ask my question A.S.A.P it would be greatly appreciated, i am currently new to XDA but not the the Android OS. And to all of you whom think Android is a terrible OS go get one of the most biggest fails since Apple Newton the iPad.
P.S The XDA forums is great, and everyone on here deserves a good old beer. If this thread violates any T&C please go right ahead and delete it. Thanks so much,
" Be nice to nerds, because chances are you will probably work for one someday" - Bill Gates.
My devices and devices i have had:
.Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830
.Galaxy S2 I900T White
.Galaxy S2 I900T Black
.Sony Xperia Z
.Pendo Pad 7
.Softwner Tablet 7"
.Huawei Acend y201
.Galaxy Nexus
.Nexus 7 2013
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Theorically speaking, the safe working temperatures would be the where the thermal limit is which is around 105ºC.
However, it doesn't work like this because heat spreads to other components and more importantly, it spreads to the battery and we all know batteries don't like hot temperatures since it drastically reduces their life span and charge capability.
On practice, I would say keeping your CPU below 70ºC which will result in a colder battery aswell is the sweet spot.
On the Overclock matter, I have mine at 1900'ish Mhz and my GPU is at 490'ish Mhz and I haven't experienced any abnormal temperatures while runing benchmarks. Infact, the temps were kept below 50ºC which is more than fine.
wantabe said:
I'm going to "guess" and say somewhere around 100C for the cpu. Just a guess. 60C for the battery would absolutely be bad news. 50C would make me nervous. Also the cpu will start to get throttled (underclocked) once it gets up to a certain temp, And once it reaches the max temp the cpu will get shut down and you will have to wait for it to cool down before it will boot back up. I would worry about the heat affecting the motherboard and the components on that before I would worry about heat damaging the cpu.
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I think the battery burns like hell when you're playing and charging it at the same time, am I right? I wonder, if the cpu and gpu are underload, the battery will drain quickly, does this mean that this produces more heat to the battery? How does that work.
CheyTac-12 said:
The overlay thing I was talking about earlier was the cause for that cpu temp, it used like 2 entire cores to function, without it, temps are more stable, can you believe that the tablet actually kinda burned my fingers if I pressed too hard? That's insane.
Now, I understand that the battery's temperature is something important, so you don't ruin your battery lifespan, but how come cpu temps don't matter as much as battery's does? What's the max temp for these devices?
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Thanks m8. I don't have to worrie about it anymore... The Nexus came to a screen smashing end...
Hi guys i just got an Xperia ZL C6502 months ago and its a big headache im telling you the cellphone is great but whats really happening
The problem is that in heavy use the Snapdragon S Pro 600 Quad to 1.5ghz comes over 65°c or 149°F wich is absolute damn high so what? it drains the battery from 100% to 0% in around 2 or 3 hours and the cellphone is hot as hell, and not only in games, using apps like Whatsapp, Facebook, etc too.
When im not using it it drains normal ammount of battery like 2 or 3% per hour but when i use it a little while at least it drains 10% of it and im like charging it 2 or 3 times per day.
It has the lastest version of Android supported by it wich is 5.1.1 and rooted by Kingroot App i thougth that rooting it i was able to change the CPU frequencys but here comes the problem, i tried a lot of apps and no one seems to result, my intention was to clock it to 384 thath it seems to be the minimum it tolerates and 809 to maximum to reduce the battery consumption and the CPU heat but when i clock it or push the "apply this settings at startup" the clocks are set to 1512mhz minimum and maximum.
My question is, why this is happening and if there is a solution to my problem.
Sorry for my bad english im spanish and thanks by the way
Anyone?
Hello, first of all the right processor of this device is the Snapdrangon s4 pro (APQ8064).
Related to your problem I think you could try installing another CPU control app, there is one I've used before and is on the playstore "No-frills CPU control". Install it and change the CPU governor to "conservative" or try others... Hope this is helpful for you.
PD: I'm Mexican and speak Spanish also, send me a Personal Message if you want, I think I could help you
I can't believe that the CPU exynos in the Note 10+ will give you such a bad gaming experience.
I played Arena of valor or Realm of valor in some countries, which is a terrible thing because it can't play with stable high frame rate mode. In just a few minutes the game began to experience signs of lower frame rate reaching the lowest 39 and returning between 50.
I think it's worse than Note 9.
I don't expect the best, but it shouldn't be this bad.
If anyone else who is already using Note 10+ with Exynos is having the same problem, please let me know, and if anyone has a solution for me, please advise me to fix this. Thank you.
did you try with game launcher, and its related apps, enabled?
I have the Exynos version too and I haven't had any issues ?
Zero issues here. Maybe you are gaming wrong?
check for the performance settings in the game launcher
as no way its slower than the note 9 lol
From what OP is describing, seems like his phone may be overheating? How hot is it and what's running in the background? Also since there are 2 versions, maybe there is something particular to Exynos, like some driver issue, that can be fixed with update.
I have trrown a lot of games to my exynos note10+, it barely gets a little warm, no lags, all fine
Note that depending on the usage, the CPU goes to Medium power saving at times that throttles the CPU. Make sure the battery settings to Optimized.