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Can someone please tell me what is considered "normal"?
Mine runs at about 55 constantly, is this dangerous?
Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557494&highlight=cpu+temp
For example,there is another threads...
55°C is not dangerous and I doubt it runs constantly at 55°C,in sleep?when your browse on the net?when you watch a movie?or just when you naviguate in settings?
So,normal if you have this CPU temp while browsing or whatching a video,not very normal if your just naviguate in settings since 10 mins... (according to the CPU freq?) or if your phone is in sleep since 10 mins (if you do not download anything)->wake up and you see 55°C...
While it is charging?
The CPU temp limit is at 64°C (if you don't modify it),above thermal throttling,reboot...
And it's with stock kernel?custom kernel (CPU freq?voltage?),what are you doing exactly with your phone?
viking37 said:
Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557494&highlight=cpu+temp
For example,there is another threads...
55°C is not dangerous and I doubt it runs constantly at 55°C,in sleep?when your browse on the net?when you watch a movie?or just when you naviguate in settings?
So,normal if you have this CPU temp while browsing or whatching a video,not very normal if your just naviguate in settings since 10 mins... (according to the CPU freq?) or if your phone is in sleep since 10 mins (if you do not download anything)->wake up and you see 55°C...
While it is charging?
The CPU temp limit is at 64°C (if you don't modify it),above thermal throttling,reboot...
And it's with stock kernel?custom kernel (CPU freq?voltage?),what are you doing exactly with your phone?
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Thanks for the response mate.
I flashed Franco M3 last night and was admittidly browsing a lot before I went to bed and this morning.
Looking at it now where its been sat on my desk at work for a while its hovering around 35.
I suppose I was just looking for a little assurance my phone isnt going to break into a ball of flames suddenly!!!
Again appreciate the response mate, Thanks
Re,
Ok,for me no problem with your CPU temp,normal
Also,depending to the current ambient temperature...
Stretlow said:
Thanks for the response mate.
Looking at it now where its been sat on my desk at work for a while its hovering around 35.
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In sleep,for example since 10 mins?without touching it?
Mine in sleep is at 22°C in my home (current ambient temperature about...24°C).
In extreme use (for example during a bench ) go to about 86°C...
In browsing about 55-56°C.
In light use (setting my home screen for example) about 40°C.
For example with System Tuner pro you can follow in real time your CPU temp (with graph).
Running at 1.42Ghz actually.
And in normal use I settled my CPU temp limit to 75°C (stock is 64°C),I feel that by increasing the CPU temp limit the phone heats a little less.
viking37 said:
Re,
Ok,for me no problem with your CPU temp,normal
Also,depending to the current ambient temperature...
In sleep,for example since 10 mins?without touching it?
Mine in sleep is at 22°C in my home (current ambient temperature about...24°C).
In extreme use (for example during a bench ) go to about 86°C...
In browsing about 55-56°C.
In light use (setting my home screen for example) about 40°C.
For example with System Tuner pro you can follow in real time your CPU temp (with graph).
Running at 1.42Ghz actually.
And in normal use I settled my CPU temp limit to 75°C (stock is 64°C),I feel that by increasing the CPU temp limit the phone heats a little less.
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This makes me feel better!! im nowhere near that!!!
Always wonder on these forums and dont take this the wrong way but is their any other point than upping your benchmark by overclocking.
Do you have any noticeable difference in performance thats worth the loss in battery.
Thanks again
viking37 said:
Re,
Ok,for me no problem with your CPU temp,normal
Also,depending to the current ambient temperature...
In sleep,for example since 10 mins?without touching it?
Mine in sleep is at 22°C in my home (current ambient temperature about...24°C).
In extreme use (for example during a bench ) go to about 86°C...
In browsing about 55-56°C.
In light use (setting my home screen for example) about 40°C.
For example with System Tuner pro you can follow in real time your CPU temp (with graph).
Running at 1.42Ghz actually.
And in normal use I settled my CPU temp limit to 75°C (stock is 64°C),I feel that by increasing the CPU temp limit the phone heats a little less.
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I'm just curious because what you said confuses me lol but, how exactly would INCREASING temp limit make the phone get hot less?
I don't know much about how that works (the nitty gritty details) but that seems kinda Counterintuitive?
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ashclepdia said:
I'm just curious because what you said confuses me lol but, how exactly would INCREASING temp limit make the phone get hot less?
I don't know much about how that works (the nitty gritty details) but that seems kinda Counterintuitive?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Hi,
I do not know any more ,like I said "I feel"...
At the same CPU freq and about the same use I feel with a higher CPU temp limit the CPU heats less...that's what I thought noticed when I monitor the temperature evolution in System Tuner...Why?,Placebo?Not exactly the same condition?I do not look exactly at the same times (after a high load) compared to the stock CPU temp limit?...I don't know much...
I tried to reproduce the same conditions for both CPU temp limit,and I think I noticied this...But it's not "scientific" nor proven...
I may be an explanation in French but I can not do the same in English even with Google Translation...,too hard for me
And I am not a engineer in processor and I do not have large knowledge in this...And maybe,certainly,my explanation is crap
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Stretlow said:
This makes me feel better!! im nowhere near that!!!
Always wonder on these forums and dont take this the wrong way but is their any other point than upping your benchmark by overclocking.
Do you have any noticeable difference in performance thats worth the loss in battery.
Thanks again
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Re,
Yes there is a performance improvement it depends in what...
Some apps loads faster,my launcher is smoother (Apex),scrolling is better,etc...
Some people do not notice the other yes...
Even withe the "better" kernel,the more you overclock the more your battery life decreases,but it also depends of the voltage,governor and what you do with your phone...
If I run 15 benchs at 1.65Ghz for stability test (or for to show that I have a big **** LOL )...Bye bye the battery...
viking37 said:
Hi,
I do not know any more ,like I said "I feel"...
At the same CPU freq and about the same use I feel with a higher CPU temp limit the CPU heats less...that's what I thought noticed when I monitor the temperature evolution in System Tuner...Why?,Placebo?Not exactly the same condition?I do not look exactly at the same times (after a high load) compared to the stock CPU temp limit?...I don't know much...
I tried to reproduce the same conditions for both CPU temp limit,and I think I noticied this...But it's not "scientific" nor proven...
I may be an explanation in French but I can not do the same in English even with Google Translation...,too hard for me
And I am not a engineer in processor and I do not have large knowledge in this...And maybe,certainly,my explanation is crap
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Re,
Yes there is a performance improvement it depends in what...
Some apps loads faster,my launcher is smoother (Apex),scrolling is better,etc...
Some people do not notice the other yes...
Even withe the "better" kernel,the more you overclock the more your battery life decreases,but it also depends of the voltage,governor and what you do with your phone...
If I run 15 benchs at 1.65Ghz for stability test (or for to show that I have a big **** LOL )...Bye bye the battery...
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Lol thanks
I was just wondering if it was something that was proven
Thanks for explanation.
I'll have to check for myself sometime I guess
Hi guys!
This One X is very performing smartphone, games are really pretty... But I can stand that battery problem! I've tried so many rom, using setcpu for ondemand governor of the Tegra3... But I still not have so many battery life!
Can you guys suggest how rom, kernel or something else can save my battery?
Generic suggestions about this problem... Now I'm using Jdroid exodized 3.0.3 with bricked kernel v0.2, but battery is so draining... 63 % of battery with 1.37 hours of screen.. 4 h 22 min on it! =(
Hi!
I see a lot of people complaining about battery life, but if you take a look around you'll find the thread where people posted their battery usage. Me - I'm using rooted OneX running the stock ROM and am more than satisfied as far as battery life goes. I do 15 hours with ease. If I try to save it it usually lasts for more than 24 hours. Maybe you could try stock rom + root ... maybe a little underclock? I've been hearing underclock is quite the juice saver.
Hi,
I am the same I have tried custom Rom's but they claim to improve battery life but they just move the tegra 3 powersaving driver into the correct place!
I have a unlocked O2 HTC One X with O2 Rom and flashed battery fix and rooted the device!
Using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597227
I have managed to setup a shortcut using widgets on the screen to select how many cores I want to use. I find that using one core clocked at 1.5GHz is fast enough and I don't have much lag! This has helped my battery massively! This is because O2 still haven't pushed through the HTC updates yet!
And also using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630200
I flashed this using CMW and this has also helped.
I also find disabling some stock apps using App Managment in Settings, also using CPU spy from the Play Store and Battery Usage in settings. I can find the apps that use the most CPU power then uninstall or limit their usage (maybe using the internet instead of a dedicated app) this then has the phone stay in Deep Sleep for longer. I can easily get through 24hrs without having to try to save battery at all! I sometimes have almost got two days without charging!
Another tip is in the Usage app you can Restrict Background data over the network although when you connect to your WiFi it enables it again. Although it is meant to help save your Data it can also help your Battery Life.
Hope this helps!
Steven
Thanks for the answer!
I noticed that, in this Rom that I'm trying, I've the Screen that consume a lot of battery, even in the lowest brightness mode. Not using WiFi, 3g data, autosync, nothing, only a lot of text message received and sent. I think that this S-LCD2 consume a lot of battery or maybe the software of HTC, this time, is a loot poor of balance with this expensive hardware.
Do you think I can improve battery life with the tips that you said? I'm using this ROM right now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597778.
Setting CPU to ondemand governor 304 mhz min and 1.5 ghz doesn't help me? I must disable some cores? I can give it a try, hope that this tips can be made in this AOSP Senseless Rom.
stevepork said:
Hi,
I have a unlocked O2 HTC One X with O2 Rom and flashed battery fix and rooted the device!
Using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597227
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The link in which I can download the correct NvCPLSvc.apk in that thread doesn't work
Screen will always be the biggest battery drain if you are using the phone.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
joshnichols189 said:
Screen will always be the biggest battery drain if you are using the phone.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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I'm asking myself [ and you ] if this screen consume really a lot amount of battery... Or there is some problem with my one x... Reaching the 3+ hours screen on is a good result, but in a 15 h battery day life, I hope... Maybe I can reach disabling a couple of processors
Don't worry about the screen, it will always take a lot of power whatever you do! It isn't worth messing with it.
You don't need to mess with the CPU although personally it does make a diffrence to the battery, I don't notice it too unless I am gaming!
Maybe an app is preventing your phone from going to deep sleep whilst the screen is off
Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
If it says that your phone hasn't been in deep sleep, We need to try and find the culprit. Once you have done this maybe post back and I might be able to help you sort this out! It took me a while as I had this problem but it was definatly worth the effort!
Try looking in battery in the settings and see if there are any apps that are using a lot of power (maybe take a screen shot) and also try in Data Usage, there maybe apps using the Internet whilst you aren't using the phone. This also wastes the battery. If you restrict background usage (only on certain apps) it will only use the Internet in the background whilst you are connected to wifi only. Facebook is a good example!
Hope this helps
Steven
If you don't understand anything please say, I know my explanations are awful but I will try my best! I think I have changed everything here to fit your rom!
The rom itself although you or the developer know this but the overall system could be causing a problem! (just a theory!)
stevepork said:
Don't worry about the screen, it will always take a lot of power whatever you do! It isn't worth messing with it.
You don't need to mess with the CPU although personally it does make a diffrence to the battery, I don't notice it too unless I am gaming!
Maybe an app is preventing your phone from going to deep sleep whilst the screen is off
Try using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
If it says that your phone hasn't been in deep sleep, We need to try and find the culprit. Once you have done this maybe post back and I might be able to help you sort this out! It took me a while as I had this problem but it was definatly worth the effort!
Try looking in battery in the settings and see if there are any apps that are using a lot of power (maybe take a screen shot) and also try in Data Usage, there maybe apps using the Internet whilst you aren't using the phone. This also wastes the battery. If you restrict background usage (only on certain apps) it will only use the Internet in the background whilst you are connected to wifi only. Facebook is a good example!
Hope this helps
Steven
If you don't understand anything please say, I know my explanations are awful but I will try my best! I think I have changed everything here to fit your rom!
The rom itself although you or the developer know this but the overall system could be causing a problem! (just a theory!)
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You're too fine with me steven, thanks!
I've downloaded Cpu Spy and it says that my one x has been in deep sleep for 70 % of time, so there is no problem with some apps doing something during screen off. My problem is that when I'm using all 4 cores, without internet via wifi or 3g, without autosync, nothing at all, and screen at lowest brightness, there is still a drastic battery drain while I'm using only Message app a lot. I don't wanna think that my HOX have a fault battery, but how can I test and prove it ? I don't know if there is a program, app or test for doing this thing.
Now I'm with that ROM Senseless AOSP ICS, I will try next charge with two cores actives only and view how much I can stay with that SetCpu settings. I'm using this settings: 101% Battery <, CPU Max 1Ghz to 51Mhz and priority 100, governor ondemand ; screen off, CPU Max 1Ghz to 200 mhz and priority 100, governor ondemand. I'll give you the result soon.
you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
Goku80 said:
you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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I agree that you should not use set CPU although you are best using ondemand as that is only using the amount of power you need, interactive keeps the speed high to increase the overall speed. (not good for battery life) also maybe, my mothers Samsung Galaxy S2 had battery problems and she got 6hrs of battery out of her phone at max, she always carried her charger around.
I calibrated the battery without using any software, I just fully charged the device and left video/audio/maps on to get rid of the battery as fast as I could and then fully charged the device. All I am trying to say is give this a shot (I did this when I first got my phone) she now gets on average 2days battery life! I know that it can take ages but it is defiantly worth the effort!
Hope this helps
Steven
Also, how do you find that ROM it looks great. I think I might try it!
stevepork said:
I agree that you should not use set CPU although you are best using ondemand as that is only using the amount of power you need, interactive keeps the speed high to increase the overall speed. (not good for battery life) also maybe, my mothers Samsung Galaxy S2 had battery problems and she got 6hrs of battery out of her phone at max, she always carried her charger around.
I calibrated the battery without using any software, I just fully charged the device and left video/audio/maps on to get rid of the battery as fast as I could and then fully charged the device. All I am trying to say is give this a shot (I did this when I first got my phone) she now gets on average 2days battery life! I know that it can take ages but it is defiantly worth the effort!
Hope this helps
Steven
Also, how do you find that ROM it looks great. I think I might try it!
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if it is me you are asking about the rom mate it is really good highly recommend it
I don't know guys... My phone without two cores seems to have more battery with setcpu on demand declocked at 1 ghz... But I mean, this screen... Lowest brightness, consumes a lot... Wanna try some other roms, like X Touch Xtreme or InsertCoin =)
Goku80 said:
you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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cant get over 2 and 20mins screen time before my battery dies.
i dont play games just texting,calling,browsing and a bit gps using..
i get 12-15 hours but cant get a good screen time
patomo09 said:
cant get over 2 and 20mins screen time before my battery dies.
i dont play games just texting,calling,browsing and a bit gps using..
i get 12-15 hours but cant get a good screen time
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go into settings-sound and untick the lockscreen sounds and untick the touch keypad sounds to. come out and reboot the phone and charge...let me know if you have those two options ticked
Goku80 said:
go into settings-sound and untick the lockscreen sounds and untick the touch keypad sounds to. come out and reboot the phone and charge...let me know if you have those two options ticked
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What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
stevepork said:
What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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What, The Senseless I've meant? Tell me what you think!
P.s. Seems that the Leedroid 6 Rom with Franco kernel it's a good couple for battery life. Read this one, post #33 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648687&page=4
In this Rom, The Jdroid Exodized, I can't try the HTC Battery Test. When I'm trying new one Rom with sense, I will keep in mind to do that.
In the mean time post your suggestions about other roms or other tips for this tooooo much powerful phone =)
stevepork said:
What is this meant to do!!
And thanks, I am going to try that ROM now, just backing up mine now!
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it is meant to stop the audioout_3 wakelock from draining battery while the screen is off. install betterbatterystats. leave all your stuff in sounds ticked..then charge your battery to the full and seee what i mean once you start testing the battery
Goku80 said:
you need to give it time to settle the battery mate. i manage to go a day or two and have like 3 hours screen on time and that is with everything on. if you need any help send me a PM mate and i see what i can do to help you. and i would not use SetCpu for now i am using No-Frills. And switch from ondemand to Interactive. and that is with 1.5Ghz as max and 100mhz mininum
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Sorry goku, I want to ask you if you reached the point of 3 hours screen on with everything on, with a day or two with battery! I read that you're using leedroid v 6 with bricked kernel v 0.3, how is battery life with this software? Thanks for the answer!
VillainROM v2 + Franco Kernel.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
hi guys i have a note 3 mediatek device (mtk6582) and when i play games or just using it for more than 20-30 min...it gets really hot, i mean really hott(especially when i'm playing games)
and i think that it may be 1 of the 4 pocessors(cpu2 or cpu3)...i have found apps to disable them but they enable again automatically.(im saying these cores because most of the time they are not active on normal use, but when i playing game they automatically enables)
but i also think that it could be the battery that is not the best quality...and i need someone to tell that if the battery is not that good can this heat up the cpu.
oohhh and if anybody knows any other way to disable the cores ...so i could find if they really heats up the cpu or not...i would appreciate if you tell me how.
THANK YOU.
What does this have to do with paranoid android?
Sent from my Nexus 5
i dont know...xda forums moderator( justmpm )moved this here
Hello everyone! I am very, very happy because i bought a Nexus 7 2013 a week ago. That same night I got home from the shop I knew it was getting root permissions. So i did the rooting method with WugFreshes toolkit and it worked like a dream I must admit. TWRP and Superuser installed in a flash.
After root permissions the fun started - Custom Rom's, Mods, Tweaks you name it. I am currently using Stock Kitkat 4.4 ROM with many tweaks:
PureGraphic HD
PurePeformances
AwesomeBeats
PureAudio
I have the Franco Kernel and it's great. I have had no issues what so ever so far. It's smooth, fast and responsive. Games run extraordinary fast, I can amp up the graphics without to much frame drops, this includes games like GTA SA, GTA VC, Modern Combat 4 and N64/PS1 Emulators (and yes i own the roms :highfive. Back to the Kernel. All Wireless adapters are working (bluetooth, wifi, nfc etc), and wifi seems faster. Battery doesn't drain very fast at all, even with intensive load. But here is where my question actually is ...
I do understand that this question has been answered somewhere else in the Nexus 7 2013 forum, however can someone tell me my question in more detail? Thanks. :good:
Q. My question is, between what cpu temperatures is safe for my nexus 7 2013 to play intensive games at (etc emualtors, gta series, MC4)? What temperatures should i be alerted at. I am currently running GTA Sandreas and emulators at around 50-65 Degrese celcius (yes that's right celcius us auzzies use the metric system :silly: . )
Also if i overclocked it to 1.7GHZ then what would a stable temp be while idling and heavy load? (thanks!)
(last minute edit... Also what CPU is really used in this? People say it's an undercloked s4 pro or something? So if overcloked back to 1.7GHZ it'll be fine? Right?...)
Other information consist of:
.All the mods i said i have, stated earlier
.Franco Kernal
.Wireless devices faster tweaks
.Use 4x MSSA
.Warn at 65 Degrees Celcius
.Other small mods i can not think of...
.Stock GPU & CPU clock speeds
If anyone can ask my question A.S.A.P it would be greatly appreciated, i am currently new to XDA but not the the Android OS. And to all of you whom think Android is a terrible OS go get one of the most biggest fails since Apple Newton the iPad.
P.S The XDA forums is great, and everyone on here deserves a good old beer. If this thread violates any T&C please go right ahead and delete it. Thanks so much,
" Be nice to nerds, because chances are you will probably work for one someday" - Bill Gates.
My devices and devices i have had:
.Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830
.Galaxy S2 I900T White
.Galaxy S2 I900T Black
.Sony Xperia Z
.Pendo Pad 7
.Softwner Tablet 7"
.Huawei Acend y201
.Galaxy Nexus
.Nexus 7 2013
How come nobody has said nothing to this question?
Btw, my cpu hit 91º C this morning while I was playing nova 3 and I was using an overlay to see my gpu frequencies and usage. I think is too much.
CheyTac-12 said:
How come nobody has said nothing to this question?
Btw, my cpu hit 91º C this morning while I was playing nova 3 and I was using an overlay to see my gpu frequencies and usage. I think is too much.
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I personally wouldn't worry about cpu temp that much. All the developers of custom kernels will set the thermal limits to whatever they think is appropriate. A much bigger concern than the cpu temp is heat being conducted to the battery. I would make a point of keeping the battery below 120F and I personally don't want to see over 110F (around 45C).
wantabe said:
I personally wouldn't worry about cpu temp that much. All the developers of custom kernels will set the thermal limits to whatever they think is appropriate. A much bigger concern than the cpu temp is heat being conducted to the battery. I would make a point of keeping the battery below 120F and I personally don't want to see over 110F (around 45C).
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The overlay thing I was talking about earlier was the cause for that cpu temp, it used like 2 entire cores to function, without it, temps are more stable, can you believe that the tablet actually kinda burned my fingers if I pressed too hard? That's insane.
Now, I understand that the battery's temperature is something important, so you don't ruin your battery lifespan, but how come cpu temps don't matter as much as battery's does? What's the max temp for these devices?
CheyTac-12 said:
The overlay thing I was talking about earlier was the cause for that cpu temp, it used like 2 entire cores to function, without it, temps are more stable, can you believe that the tablet actually kinda burned my fingers if I pressed too hard? That's insane.
Now, I understand that the battery's temperature is something important, so you don't ruin your battery lifespan, but how come cpu temps don't matter as much as battery's does? What's the max temp for these devices?
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I'm going to "guess" and say somewhere around 100C for the cpu. Just a guess. 60C for the battery would absolutely be bad news. 50C would make me nervous. Also the cpu will start to get throttled (underclocked) once it gets up to a certain temp, And once it reaches the max temp the cpu will get shut down and you will have to wait for it to cool down before it will boot back up. I would worry about the heat affecting the motherboard and the components on that before I would worry about heat damaging the cpu.
XxAuzzi3L3g3ndx said:
Hello everyone! I am very, very happy because i bought a Nexus 7 2013 a week ago. That same night I got home from the shop I knew it was getting root permissions. So i did the rooting method with WugFreshes toolkit and it worked like a dream I must admit. TWRP and Superuser installed in a flash.
After root permissions the fun started - Custom Rom's, Mods, Tweaks you name it. I am currently using Stock Kitkat 4.4 ROM with many tweaks:
PureGraphic HD
PurePeformances
AwesomeBeats
PureAudio
I have the Franco Kernel and it's great. I have had no issues what so ever so far. It's smooth, fast and responsive. Games run extraordinary fast, I can amp up the graphics without to much frame drops, this includes games like GTA SA, GTA VC, Modern Combat 4 and N64/PS1 Emulators (and yes i own the roms :highfive. Back to the Kernel. All Wireless adapters are working (bluetooth, wifi, nfc etc), and wifi seems faster. Battery doesn't drain very fast at all, even with intensive load. But here is where my question actually is ...
I do understand that this question has been answered somewhere else in the Nexus 7 2013 forum, however can someone tell me my question in more detail? Thanks. :good:
Q. My question is, between what cpu temperatures is safe for my nexus 7 2013 to play intensive games at (etc emualtors, gta series, MC4)? What temperatures should i be alerted at. I am currently running GTA Sandreas and emulators at around 50-65 Degrese celcius (yes that's right celcius us auzzies use the metric system :silly: . )
Also if i overclocked it to 1.7GHZ then what would a stable temp be while idling and heavy load? (thanks!)
(last minute edit... Also what CPU is really used in this? People say it's an undercloked s4 pro or something? So if overcloked back to 1.7GHZ it'll be fine? Right?...)
Other information consist of:
.All the mods i said i have, stated earlier
.Franco Kernal
.Wireless devices faster tweaks
.Use 4x MSSA
.Warn at 65 Degrees Celcius
.Other small mods i can not think of...
.Stock GPU & CPU clock speeds
If anyone can ask my question A.S.A.P it would be greatly appreciated, i am currently new to XDA but not the the Android OS. And to all of you whom think Android is a terrible OS go get one of the most biggest fails since Apple Newton the iPad.
P.S The XDA forums is great, and everyone on here deserves a good old beer. If this thread violates any T&C please go right ahead and delete it. Thanks so much,
" Be nice to nerds, because chances are you will probably work for one someday" - Bill Gates.
My devices and devices i have had:
.Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830
.Galaxy S2 I900T White
.Galaxy S2 I900T Black
.Sony Xperia Z
.Pendo Pad 7
.Softwner Tablet 7"
.Huawei Acend y201
.Galaxy Nexus
.Nexus 7 2013
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Theorically speaking, the safe working temperatures would be the where the thermal limit is which is around 105ºC.
However, it doesn't work like this because heat spreads to other components and more importantly, it spreads to the battery and we all know batteries don't like hot temperatures since it drastically reduces their life span and charge capability.
On practice, I would say keeping your CPU below 70ºC which will result in a colder battery aswell is the sweet spot.
On the Overclock matter, I have mine at 1900'ish Mhz and my GPU is at 490'ish Mhz and I haven't experienced any abnormal temperatures while runing benchmarks. Infact, the temps were kept below 50ºC which is more than fine.
wantabe said:
I'm going to "guess" and say somewhere around 100C for the cpu. Just a guess. 60C for the battery would absolutely be bad news. 50C would make me nervous. Also the cpu will start to get throttled (underclocked) once it gets up to a certain temp, And once it reaches the max temp the cpu will get shut down and you will have to wait for it to cool down before it will boot back up. I would worry about the heat affecting the motherboard and the components on that before I would worry about heat damaging the cpu.
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I think the battery burns like hell when you're playing and charging it at the same time, am I right? I wonder, if the cpu and gpu are underload, the battery will drain quickly, does this mean that this produces more heat to the battery? How does that work.
CheyTac-12 said:
The overlay thing I was talking about earlier was the cause for that cpu temp, it used like 2 entire cores to function, without it, temps are more stable, can you believe that the tablet actually kinda burned my fingers if I pressed too hard? That's insane.
Now, I understand that the battery's temperature is something important, so you don't ruin your battery lifespan, but how come cpu temps don't matter as much as battery's does? What's the max temp for these devices?
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Thanks m8. I don't have to worrie about it anymore... The Nexus came to a screen smashing end...
Hello all.
I was thinking if anyone here had a problem like mine or knows what to do.
I bought a LG G4 dual sim 818p last week.
the phone is great, but it has some problem that i think is software related, and i think is governor problem.
It has the latest android version avaible, original from lg.
the thing is that in standby it is great, i get 1% drain in 24 hours...
but if i use the phone just for web browsing or facebook it heats as hell, and i lose 1% batery in 3 minutes...
no gaming, no downloading and no SIM card in it.
Just drains as hell and gets to hot just for web browsing.
I also noticed with battery gsam analyser that if i use the phone it always puts the all processors on 100% speed and for me that is the problem and it has got to be a bug on the governor settings.
any ideas?
many thanks,
what can i do?
paulocarneiropaulo said:
Hello all.
I was thinking if anyone here had a problem like mine or knows what to do.
I bought a LG G4 dual sim 818p last week.
the phone is great, but it has some problem that i think is software related, and i think is governor problem.
It has the latest android version avaible, original from lg.
the thing is that in standby it is great, i get 1% drain in 24 hours...
but if i use the phone just for web browsing or facebook it heats as hell, and i lose 1% batery in 3 minutes...
no gaming, no downloading and no SIM card in it.
Just drains as hell and gets to hot just for web browsing.
I also noticed with battery gsam analyser that if i use the phone it always puts the all processors on 100% speed and for me that is the problem and it has got to be a bug on the governor settings.
any ideas?
many thanks,
what can i do?
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Not having a simcard does phone scans fro network?
you could do factory reset if same flash stock firmware using LGUP.. if its marshmallow then be careful wich antirollback you 0n... also i read
LP has better battery than MM.
Hi,
many tanks for your reply.
I also did the same test with the sim cards inserted and the problem was the same.
Meanwhile I flashed the original rom version V20b (I had the V20f) and althou the problem is not gone, things have improved mery much.
I am now sure the problem is software related with the rom and the way it manages the cpu load and speed.
I am pretty much sure if developers of the original rom had more attention to cpu load vs cpu speed this phone could be awsome and have great battery life.
The thing is way does it need to have 6 cores running on full speed just for webbrowsing? It seems to me they dont know how to control the ammount of cpu cores and speed vs the load we put on it.
regards,
paulocarneiropaulo said:
Hi,
many tanks for your reply.
I also did the same test with the sim cards inserted and the problem was the same.
Meanwhile I flashed the original rom version V20b (I had the V20f) and althou the problem is not gone, things have improved mery much.
I am now sure the problem is software related with the rom and the way it manages the cpu load and speed.
I am pretty much sure if developers of the original rom had more attention to cpu load vs cpu speed this phone could be awsome and have great battery life.
The thing is way does it need to have 6 cores running on full speed just for webbrowsing? It seems to me they dont know how to control the ammount of cpu cores and speed vs the load we put on it.
regards,
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You can install V10 Lollipop and heatup problem will be resolved. MM has issues on 818 in terms of battery drain + heatup.
Even I am currently facing Battery drain Issues was thinking to switch to LP...!! But my LGUP does not detect my phone !!! (818N)
from my experience, i've already tried rolling back to a lot of different version of lollipop, v10k rooted+debloated, v10l rooted+debloated, camuix v3 (v10d base), camuix alpha test4 (v10e base), i love using xposed framework, and also i'm a user who loves installing things,it was about 400+ apps/games installed and guess what, it drains my battery 5-7% every 15 minutes without doing anything. and then i tried again using marsmallow, first, i install v20e, but i don't like the UI that much, so i flashed genisys system.img (v20c base) via download mode and disabling some bloatware via debloater. so after having v20c with genisys ui, i install every apps/games i had before 1 by 1, and now, there's about 428-433 apps/games on my phone. after day to day use, i don't really feel too much battery drain regarding a lot of apps/games i had. and also it will go overheat just when playing games or watching videos, it doesn't really overheat when browsing. and about the SOT, it can go up to 3-4 hours depending on network or gps uses, when i use my phone as turn by turn navigation, it can survive about 2.40-3.20 hours. actually, i do really miss every xposed framework i uses before, but i don't really feel so much different. because now in marsmallow, i can use my 128gb microsd as adoptable storage, a lot of CPU & GPU governor improvements, a lot of OOT improvements, a genisys theme, and by using such apps like floatify, fooview, appblock, and adguard, it just feel's like a rooted phone. and one last thing, now i can throw away any kernel or script modifier i've previously used, it was a really really hard time on optimizing this phone with that method, lolz. btw if u need some screenshot, i'll post it
Waxim1 said:
You can install V10 Lollipop and heatup problem will be resolved. MM has issues on 818 in terms of battery drain + heatup.
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Thanks for you input, and advice.
can you help me with where to find the kdz file for the v10?
Many thanks, again.
paulocarneiropaulo said:
Hi,
many tanks for your reply.
I also did the same test with the sim cards inserted and the problem was the same.
Meanwhile I flashed the original rom version V20b (I had the V20f) and althou the problem is not gone, things have improved mery much.
I am now sure the problem is software related with the rom and the way it manages the cpu load and speed.
I am pretty much sure if developers of the original rom had more attention to cpu load vs cpu speed this phone could be awsome and have great battery life.
The thing is way does it need to have 6 cores running on full speed just for webbrowsing? It seems to me they dont know how to control the ammount of cpu cores and speed vs the load we put on it.
regards,
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well if you unlocked bootloader flahsing other kernels might have different governors some are foe performance some are more tame... yes i agree why use alot of cores when it can handle with one core or 2.. but thats how governors are some are in ondemand it goes from lowest cpu to highest cpu only if you open a pic.. its less lags but all that cores arent need it.. a governor like smartass v2 or intellimn will use less cores depending on what you are doing.
paulocarneiropaulo said:
Thanks for you input, and advice.
can you help me with where to find the kdz file for the v10?
Many thanks, again.
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Below is link, make sure you download according to your country / model:
http://storagecow.eu/index.php?dir=Xda/LG+G4/