Has anyone been successful in getting any applications working with the heart rate monitor? I was really hoping that from switching from the Gear 2 Neo that Google would allow for 3rd party application to read the heart rate and I can get an accurate (ish) measurement of my heart rate during indoor workouts. Apps such as MapMyFitness and Strava to name a few.
I know that the 360 constantly measures my heart rate throughout the day but I want to be able to count calories from a workout and see my heart rate graph after a high cardio workout.
Bumping because I posted in generic "Android Wear" forum and didn't know about this forum (had moderator move it but appeared on 2nd page). After reading through this forum doesn't seem like there is any hope yet...
we need this
Something I don't like about google is all of this stuff should have been out from the start
What I would like to see and have yet to find. I have a Polar Bluetooth Heart Rate Monitor and it syncs to My motox 2014 with various apps. I want to display my current Heart Rate, calories distance, pace etc etc.
I thought Runtasic or Runkeeper would do that, but havent been able to make it work yet.
Show Heart Rate and/or Steps on Watch
Many are disappointed in the absence of this capability. Adding it would put the Moto 360 in the same commercial space as the Microsoft Band...which I had and returned because it was too limited.
A hope on the horizon comes from the makers of the app WatchMaker who said that they are working on displaying heart rate and/or steps in one of the customer watch face designs. No date announced.
NoAxToGrind said:
Many are disappointed in the absence of this capability. Adding it would put the Moto 360 in the same commercial space as the Microsoft Band...which I had and returned because it was too limited.
A hope on the horizon comes from the makers of the app WatchMaker who said that they are working on displaying heart rate and/or steps in one of the customer watch face designs. No date announced.
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Already implemented in watchface
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This could be useful! (google fit)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryansteckler.heartsync&hl=en
nielsbrakel1998 said:
This could be useful! (google fit)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryansteckler.heartsync&hl=en
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The app has a lot of promise and does exactly what a lot of us have been looking for however...
It uses a lot of battery... A LOT of battery. Its default setting is to continually monitor your heart rate and in doing so, cause my 360 to wear out after about 4 hours of use. 12 is typical for me. You can open the app on the watch and tap the heart until the circle quits spinning and that puts it into standby mode and the battery life improves. Hopefully future updates will make toggling it on and off a lot easier.
To see your heart rate in Google fit, you must launch fir and hit the + at the bottom of the screen to add another graph and it starts tracking your heart rate.
Its a "donate" app so be prepared to cough up a buck if you want to unlock all the features... and support the dev and encourage him to continue to support it. IMHO, its worth it.
David
I Don't Think It's Implemented in Watchface
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Already implemented in watchface
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I downloaded it and paid for it. Saw lots of "tags" but no explanation of which tag might display heartrate or steps on the watch face. Maybe it's my lack of understanding the app.
Uninstalled it and got my refund. I am contacting developer by email to see if I am missing something. Will reply back here with instructions if they help.
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nielsbrakel1998 said:
This could be useful! (google fit)
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I tried the link (sorry I can't quote it here...it's in the original reply to my post) and I got an error. That gave me a search box on Google Play and I typed in "heartsync" (without the quotes, of course). That gave me Heartsync. Installed it and trying it.
I am pretty sure that it does not display steps or heart rate on watch face. Without donation, I only get one measurement uploaded to Google Fit. Will donate and test some more.
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Already implemented in watchface
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Checked with the developer who was very responsive. As of now, steps and heart rate are not implemented on Watchface.
DaveTN said:
The app has a lot of promise and does exactly what a lot of us have been looking for however...
It uses a lot of battery... A LOT of battery. Its default setting is to continually monitor your heart rate and in doing so, cause my 360 to wear out after about 4 hours of use. 12 is typical for me. You can open the app on the watch and tap the heart until the circle quits spinning and that puts it into standby mode and the battery life improves. Hopefully future updates will make toggling it on and off a lot easier.
To see your heart rate in Google fit, you must launch fir and hit the + at the bottom of the screen to add another graph and it starts tracking your heart rate.
Its a "donate" app so be prepared to cough up a buck if you want to unlock all the features... and support the dev and encourage him to continue to support it. IMHO, its worth it.
David
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Thanks for the shout-out. I'm the dev for HeartSync (and Amplify).
HeartSync is definitely a work in progress. I have a lot of plans for it. Right now, here's how it works:
1) Automatic mode. You set the frequency to whatever you want, and HeartSync will try to measure your heart rate that often. You can see when the next check time is in the phone app. When it's time, Heart Sync will try to get your heart rate, then upload it to google fit. If it can't get your heart rate within 60 seconds, it gives up. If you set it to 5 minutes, you'll get some battery drain. I prefer 30 minutes because the battery life is really good, and you get a good spread of heart rates in Google Fit charts.
2) Workout mode. You open the app on the watch, and tap the heart. Heart Sync will now continuously monitor your heart rate, even after the screen turns off. You also get a card notification on the watch during this time reminding you that heartsync is running in the background. This will update your heartrate continuously to Google Fit. To turn workout mode off, open the app again on the watch, and tap the heart again. The battery will last about 3-4 hours in this mode.
After any kind of measurement, you should be able to open Google Fit on your phone and refresh it. Then you can click "See Charts", "Add Chart", and add your heart rate chart.
I'm keeping HeartSync in stealth mode a little bit for now. I want to get a few more features in before I create an app thread for it here
Thanks,
Ryan
@cryptyk,
Ryan, thanks for the quick response and fixes that you pushed out. App is working very well now and battery life is much improved.
Keep up the great work!
David
NoAxToGrind said:
I downloaded it and paid for it. Saw lots of "tags" but no explanation of which tag might display heartrate or steps on the watch face. Maybe it's my lack of understanding the app.
Uninstalled it and got my refund. I am contacting developer by email to see if I am missing something. Will reply back here with instructions if they help.
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I tried the link (sorry I can't quote it here...it's in the original reply to my post) and I got an error. That gave me a search box on Google Play and I typed in "heartsync" (without the quotes, of course). That gave me Heartsync. Installed it and trying it.
I am pretty sure that it does not display steps or heart rate on watch face. Without donation, I only get one measurement uploaded to Google Fit. Will donate and test some more.
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Checked with the developer who was very responsive. As of now, steps and heart rate are not implemented on Watchface.
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I have it on my watch right now?
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cryptyk said:
Thanks for the shout-out. I'm the dev for HeartSync (and Amplify).
HeartSync is definitely a work in progress. I have a lot of plans for it. Right now, here's how it works:
1) Automatic mode. You set the frequency to whatever you want, and HeartSync will try to measure your heart rate that often. You can see when the next check time is in the phone app. When it's time, Heart Sync will try to get your heart rate, then upload it to google fit. If it can't get your heart rate within 60 seconds, it gives up. If you set it to 5 minutes, you'll get some battery drain. I prefer 30 minutes because the battery life is really good, and you get a good spread of heart rates in Google Fit charts.
2) Workout mode. You open the app on the watch, and tap the heart. Heart Sync will now continuously monitor your heart rate, even after the screen turns off. You also get a card notification on the watch during this time reminding you that heartsync is running in the background. This will update your heartrate continuously to Google Fit. To turn workout mode off, open the app again on the watch, and tap the heart again. The battery will last about 3-4 hours in this mode.
After any kind of measurement, you should be able to open Google Fit on your phone and refresh it. Then you can click "See Charts", "Add Chart", and add your heart rate chart.
I'm keeping HeartSync in stealth mode a little bit for now. I want to get a few more features in before I create an app thread for it here
Thanks,
Ryan
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hey there bud,
i bought the app and tested it. did 1 hour cardio with it continuously monitoring my heart rate. after i'm done, i checked the data and voila, nothing got synced to google fit. what did i miss?
Here's what I did:
1. Run the app in phone so I can easily see heart rate while doing plyometrics.
2. Set it to update every 5 mins.
3. opened the app in watch and then tap the heart to enable workout mode.
4. at the end of the workout, i tap the heart icon to stop workout mode.
is the data stored in the watch, can it be retrieved and synced to google fit?
thanks!
peekeesh said:
hey there bud,
i bought the app and tested it. did 1 hour cardio with it continuously monitoring my heart rate. after i'm done, i checked the data and voila, nothing got synced to google fit. what did i miss?
Here's what I did:
1. Run the app in phone so I can easily see heart rate while doing plyometrics.
2. Set it to update every 5 mins.
3. opened the app in watch and then tap the heart to enable workout mode.
4. at the end of the workout, i tap the heart icon to stop workout mode.
is the data stored in the watch, can it be retrieved and synced to google fit?
thanks!
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Hi - I'm so sorry it didn't work
It's still relatively new, and I'm still squashing some initial launch bugs. I just released a new version last night that should be more stable, and also includes some charting in the app.
What's not explained very well yet is that there are two modes:
1) Auto check. This is what you used when you moved the setting to 5 minutes. That will check your heart rate throughout the day.
2) Workout mode. This will measure your heart rate once per second until you stop it. To get into workout mode, launch HeartSync on your watch, then tap the heart icon. You'll see it start monitoring. Make sure you stop it when you're done because monitoring continuously will wear down your battery in about 3.5 hours.
HeartSync will keep getting better. Stick with me while I work out some of these early bugs
Thanks,
Ryan
Monitoring while using other apps
@cryptyk
Man, your app is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Just one question before I buy it: does it monitor the heart rate while I'm using other apps on the smartwatch? For instance, if I'm using RunKeeper or a similar app to track my workout (without heart rate), and start HeartSync in workout mode, will both work at the same time? RunKeeper in the foreground showing the workout stats, HeartSync in the background collecting the heart rate.
Thanks!
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@cryptyk
Man, your app is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Just one question before I buy it: does it monitor the heart rate while I'm using other apps on the smartwatch? For instance, if I'm using RunKeeper or a similar app to track my workout (without heart rate), and start HeartSync in workout mode, will both work at the same time? RunKeeper in the foreground showing the workout stats, HeartSync in the background collecting the heart rate.
Thanks!
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Great question. It *should*. You can give it a try for free. The workout mode of the app is free.
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Great question. It *should*. You can give it a try for free. The workout mode of the app is free.
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Tested and it does work. However, I noticed a strange behavior, that may or may not be related to your app: after some seconds, possibly right after the screen goes off, the heart rate stucks and doesn't update anymore (shows a constant value). The green LED is on, and it doesn't matter if I move the watch, clean the sensor etc. It only restarts measuring after I stop it in the app, and tap the icon again - just to stop after a few seconds, restarting the whole thing.
I say it may not be your app, because I noticed a similar behavior in other fitness apps like Endomondo. In fact, your app seems to have a good side effect for these other apps, triggering the heart rate measurement when it doesn't start or freezes (happens frequently with Endomondo). So, is it a design issue of Android Wear or Moto 360, not allowing a constant heart rate measuring for a long time? Is it my device which is faulty (have you tested the real-time measurement for a long time)? Is it a configuration / software issue, which can be solved by a reset (will try it later)?
Finally, I noticed some bugs and have some suggestions which I hope can help your development:
1) After the screen goes off, we have to select "Open" to see the heart rate from the app. That's fine, but it seems multiple instances are being started each time we tap "Open", because I have to swipe right several times to close it (same screen showing for each swipe).
2) You could allow showing the heart rate, after the app is minimized, by clicking on it and swiping left, instead of having to tap "Open". (Hope I made myself understood - it's the way some apps behave to show details.)
3) The heart rate graph, in the phone app, shows the wrong time, although it's correct in Google Fit. Perhaps you are not taking in consideration the time zone, getting UTC time?
4) It may be out of the scope of this app, but a good addition would be configurable heart rate limits (low and high), vibrating the watch or showing other kind of alert when out of range.
Well, I'll buy the app, because the basic functions work, it's not expensive, and I want to support your development (it's good to see the developer close to the community, hearing us). Thanks for that and keep up the good work!
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Nice Progress.
As others have requested, it would be nice to keep screen on (if it doesn't completely kill the battery) during workout (or some other special) mode.
Like the new graphs. Seeing success with the upload to Google Fit.
Keep up the good work; hope it's a big success for you.
dbolivar said:
Tested and it does work. However, I noticed a strange behavior, that may or may not be related to your app: after some seconds, possibly right after the screen goes off, the heart rate stucks and doesn't update anymore (shows a constant value). The green LED is on, and it doesn't matter if I move the watch, clean the sensor etc. It only restarts measuring after I stop it in the app, and tap the icon again - just to stop after a few seconds, restarting the whole thing.
I say it may not be your app, because I noticed a similar behavior in other fitness apps like Endomondo. In fact, your app seems to have a good side effect for these other apps, triggering the heart rate measurement when it doesn't start or freezes (happens frequently with Endomondo). So, is it a design issue of Android Wear or Moto 360, not allowing a constant heart rate measuring for a long time? Is it my device which is faulty (have you tested the real-time measurement for a long time)? Is it a configuration / software issue, which can be solved by a reset (will try it later)?
Finally, I noticed some bugs and have some suggestions which I hope can help your development:
1) After the screen goes off, we have to select "Open" to see the heart rate from the app. That's fine, but it seems multiple instances are being started each time we tap "Open", because I have to swipe right several times to close it (same screen showing for each swipe).
2) You could allow showing the heart rate, after the app is minimized, by clicking on it and swiping left, instead of having to tap "Open". (Hope I made myself understood - it's the way some apps behave to show details.)
3) The heart rate graph, in the phone app, shows the wrong time, although it's correct in Google Fit. Perhaps you are not taking in consideration the time zone, getting UTC time?
4) It may be out of the scope of this app, but a good addition would be configurable heart rate limits (low and high), vibrating the watch or showing other kind of alert when out of range.
Well, I'll buy the app, because the basic functions work, it's not expensive, and I want to support your development (it's good to see the developer close to the community, hearing us). Thanks for that and keep up the good work!
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Wow! Awesome feedback. I've added all 4 of these to the issue reporting system. I'll get the bugs fixed and enhancements included.
Thanks!!!
Ryan
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NoAxToGrind said:
Nice Progress.
As others have requested, it would be nice to keep screen on (if it doesn't completely kill the battery) during workout (or some other special) mode.
Like the new graphs. Seeing success with the upload to Google Fit.
Keep up the good work; hope it's a big success for you.
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I've added this to the enhancement list. Look for it in a future release
Ryan
To Ryan,
I'd like to report some issues with this app:
1. For some reason, tapping the screen to stop the continuous monitoring does not work if it is ran for 30 or more minutes. A restart is needed to workaround it.
2. If update automatically is on and im not wearing my watch, it will still try to check for heart beat and will not stop until it detects one.
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Just got my first smartwatch, the 360, yesterday.
Is there an app for tracking running/cycling without having to carry your phone around?
The Google Fit is very basic and gets calories very wrong when it comes to cycling. And Endmondo doesn't support standalone tracking for the 360 (would that becaome available with 5.1.1?). There are loads of apps in store but I can't install and check them all, anyone know of any?
Thank you
bv90andy said:
Just got my first smartwatch, the 360, yesterday.
Is there an app for tracking running/cycling without having to carry your phone around?
The Google Fit is very basic and gets calories very wrong when it comes to cycling. And Endmondo doesn't support standalone tracking for the 360 (would that becaome available with 5.1.1?). There are loads of apps in store but I can't install and check them all, anyone know of any?
Thank you
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RunKeeper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fitnesskeeper.runkeeper.pro&hl=en
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RunKeeper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fitnesskeeper.runkeeper.pro&hl=en
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It is a phone app wich works with phone GPS and you need satellites in view. Just send data to wear screen but not a Wear Fitness app. It do no use the watch sensor
Cinch. Good app by an XDA dev.
David
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RunKeeper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fitnesskeeper.runkeeper.pro&hl=en
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Nope, I tried it and it doesn't use the watch.
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Cinch. Good app by an XDA dev.
David
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This one just takes HR every so often in "work out" mode, the only option on the watch.
I may be asking too much. Maybe with 5.1.1 update we'll see more (some) standalone running apps.
The watch has no GPS, and not the right kind of sensors to determine a distance traveled. All you would get out of an app on a watch is time and heartrate sensor recording.
Smartwatches are not powerful, they work by offloading anything they can to the phone.
I use RunKeeper for my runs and have my phone with me. Since the Moto 360 does not have GPS no GPS app will work on the watch without a phone.
For a stand alone app I have found that UP by Jawbone does a good job tracking activity. If I walk inside at lunch time it will notice I was active and ask if I did an activity and then will calculate the steps into what that activity was. It has like 20 different activities including cycling. I have found that the step count comes pretty close to calculating the correct distance for running or walking, but will not be as accurate as GPS.
Here is the thread on how to link your watch to UP!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/how-to-log-steps-to-fitness-pal-moto-t2997158
I've been using My Tracks on my Xperia and SW3 for ages, but now Google is ending the fun
What alternatives are there? It needs to be able to record tracks/routes on the SW3 alone as well as on the phone.
Have you tried Google Fit? I've used it and it almost has the same statistics as My Tracks and also shows your route on a map view inside the app.
Fit is an ok app, but the main draw back is huge battery drain, at least compared to MT.
strange, I have been using Google Fit all the time, 2x 20 min gps bike rides daily, a bit of walking, two day battery life easily, no problem whatsoever with battery drain. Maybe a reset of your watch first?
I just tried Fit again and it seems to work well, without any battery issues. Maybe marshmallow sorted the issues I had previously. Giving Fit a chance to show what it can do then
About Fit app - recently i`m missing one part of Fit app - i cant record any activities - i have Fit app and icon, and Fit Activity is missing. I`ve tried to reset watch - same thing. I`ve reinstall Android Wear app - nihil novi sub sole. Help please? Maybe show me alternative to Fit app - i need to run without phone - only with SW3 watch. Anyone can help me? Endomondo? Strava? Can those programs work as stand alone apps only in my watch and have build in gps support?
Ghostracer is fine