Standalone fitness app? - Moto 360

Just got my first smartwatch, the 360, yesterday.
Is there an app for tracking running/cycling without having to carry your phone around?
The Google Fit is very basic and gets calories very wrong when it comes to cycling. And Endmondo doesn't support standalone tracking for the 360 (would that becaome available with 5.1.1?). There are loads of apps in store but I can't install and check them all, anyone know of any?
Thank you

bv90andy said:
Just got my first smartwatch, the 360, yesterday.
Is there an app for tracking running/cycling without having to carry your phone around?
The Google Fit is very basic and gets calories very wrong when it comes to cycling. And Endmondo doesn't support standalone tracking for the 360 (would that becaome available with 5.1.1?). There are loads of apps in store but I can't install and check them all, anyone know of any?
Thank you
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RunKeeper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fitnesskeeper.runkeeper.pro&hl=en

rsalas187 said:
RunKeeper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fitnesskeeper.runkeeper.pro&hl=en
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It is a phone app wich works with phone GPS and you need satellites in view. Just send data to wear screen but not a Wear Fitness app. It do no use the watch sensor

Cinch. Good app by an XDA dev.
David

rsalas187 said:
RunKeeper https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fitnesskeeper.runkeeper.pro&hl=en
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Nope, I tried it and it doesn't use the watch.
DaveTN said:
Cinch. Good app by an XDA dev.
David
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This one just takes HR every so often in "work out" mode, the only option on the watch.
I may be asking too much. Maybe with 5.1.1 update we'll see more (some) standalone running apps.

The watch has no GPS, and not the right kind of sensors to determine a distance traveled. All you would get out of an app on a watch is time and heartrate sensor recording.
Smartwatches are not powerful, they work by offloading anything they can to the phone.

I use RunKeeper for my runs and have my phone with me. Since the Moto 360 does not have GPS no GPS app will work on the watch without a phone.
For a stand alone app I have found that UP by Jawbone does a good job tracking activity. If I walk inside at lunch time it will notice I was active and ask if I did an activity and then will calculate the steps into what that activity was. It has like 20 different activities including cycling. I have found that the step count comes pretty close to calculating the correct distance for running or walking, but will not be as accurate as GPS.
Here is the thread on how to link your watch to UP!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/how-to-log-steps-to-fitness-pal-moto-t2997158

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Does anyone know how to turn off fitness apps?

Hello Everyone,
I have no need for or desire to use any of the fitness features of the 360, such as the heart monitor or Fit. I always see the little heart rate monitor firing up and I see this as a good way of saving battery since I dont use it. Does anyone know how to turn off, or uninstall these? Thanks!
Great question.
please let us know if you find out
I haven't done it myself, but if you're rooted you can try disabling them via adb.
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Ironkidz said:
Hello Everyone,
I have no need for or desire to use any of the fitness features of the 360, such as the heart monitor or Fit. I always see the little heart rate monitor firing up and I see this as a good way of saving battery since I dont use it. Does anyone know how to turn off, or uninstall these? Thanks!
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In Android Wear on the phone under "Show me my heart rate" I have mine set on Fit and I never see the heart rate monitor on my watch.
Wiley_11 said:
In Android Wear on the phone under "Show me my heart rate" I have mine set on Fit and I never see the heart rate monitor on my watch.
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If you look at the back of your watch, you will still see the green sensor in use.
Ironkidz said:
If you look at the back of your watch, you will still see the green sensor in use.
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Ahh. I thought you were talking alerts on watch, sorry. I hope turning it off completely comes in the next update. :fingers-crossed:
Ironkidz said:
Hello Everyone,
I have no need for or desire to use any of the fitness features of the 360, such as the heart monitor or Fit. I always see the little heart rate monitor firing up and I see this as a good way of saving battery since I dont use it. Does anyone know how to turn off, or uninstall these? Thanks!
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In the android wear app, select FIT for countsteps and show heart rate, then on watch select FIT and slide through to its options. do show step card OFF, daily goal NONE, and save fitness data off.
currently thats the only way i know how
It still doesn't work - mine keeps showing me the daily goal, almost hourly.

[Q] Jabra Pulse and the SW3

So I just had foot surgery and I'm bored out of my skull.
I have the Jabra Pulse Bluetooth Headphones which are not only great headphones, but also have Smart Bluetooth Heart Rate Sensor built in.
Because of my boredom, I have ordered the SW3 and it will be here on Tuesday.
The headphones work great with my Samsung S5, and I want to take advantage carrying less "baggage" with me by using the watch rather than carrying the phone.
Has anyone had any experience using the Pulse and the SW3 together? Also, looks like for the time being i'm limited to My Tracks. Will it allow for connection to a bluetooth HR monitor?
Thank you!
JW
Can't really say anything about compatibility and so on... Just wanted to ask how accurate the HR in those Headphones is?
I find it is very accurate. Occasionally I find that it might show slightly higher heart rate than what my Zephyr bluetooth heart rate monitor used to show. I went this route to lose the strap and I always use my headphones.
Also found that on the watch HR monitors (moto 360), they would stop responding when I would sweat, where the Jabra Pulse phones never stopped working.
Can't really say anything about compatibility and so on... Just wanted to ask how accurate the HR in those Headphones is?
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They are extremely accurate. Much better than any HR monitor belt i got.
Did you already found out if its working with Ghostracer, The new Runkeeper or any other running app?
I mean music and hrm on the watch.... Please let me know!
Nothing yet. Ghostracer creator said it's coming.
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Try this app. Once you set it up, it works without phone. I use it with my Polar H7 BT HR monitor.
heretic said:
Try this app. Once you set it up, it works without phone. I use it with my Polar H7 BT HR monitor.
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No good, BUT Ghostracer now supports heart rate monitors AND my Jabra Pulse Headphones worked perfectly. Now I need to run and give them a try.
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jwelch010 said:
No good, BUT Ghostracer now supports heart rate monitors AND my Jabra Pulse Headphones worked perfectly. Now I need to run and give them a try.
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Cool! Let us know! I'm considering to buy the headphones...
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Basch88 said:
Cool! Let us know! I'm considering to buy the headphones...
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So I used it this afternoon and for 1 hour of GPS use was exactly 30% of my battery! I had music also playing the entire time.
So with the full charge you should be able to get about 3 hours and 20 minutes of GPS/music/heart rate use.
So basically now I can say that I have no regrets with my purchase (not to mention that I got the watch for $199 at the Verizon Store).
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jwelch010 said:
So I used it this afternoon and for 1 hour of GPS use was exactly 30% of my battery! I had music also playing the entire time.
So with the full charge you should be able to get about 3 hours and 20 minutes of GPS/music/heart rate use.
So basically now I can say that I have no regrets with my purchase (not to mention that I got the watch for $199 at the Verizon Store).
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Hi,
Do you mean that you used your smartwatch 3 and your Jabra Pulse without your phone? Which android wear app did you use as a standalone app?
I'm exactly in the same situation and I wonder how it works...
Bye
Use Ghostracer. It's in Google Play store.
jwelch010 said:
Use Ghostracer. It's in Google Play store.
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Hi ! I did use Ghostrace in its beta version in order to get heartrate monitor support. I synchronised the watch with the Jabra Pulse. Audio works but I'm not able to get the heartrate inside the app. Could you please explain exactly how you proceeded so that it works at the end ? Thank you in advance.
araignee said:
Hi ! I did use Ghostrace in its beta version in order to get heartrate monitor support. I synchronised the watch with the Jabra Pulse. Audio works but I'm not able to get the heartrate inside the app. Could you please explain exactly how you proceeded so that it works at the end ? Thank you in advance.
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HR works when you start the run. Not when you start the app.
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HR works when you start the run. Not when you start the app.
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That's what I thought but I recorded my entire run this morning and there is no HR data available. Strange. Did you only paired your headphones with the watch ? Is there something to do inside the app on your phone ? In "sensors" section, and Bleutooth, I checked the box "Heart Rate Sensor". I don't know if I have to do it or not. And then In "Android wear" section, I checked the box "Beat Heart Rate". Are you able to see your HR data on the watch when you run by selecting the right info in the "wear settings" section ? Sorry for all my questions but I bought this Pulse for coupling it with my watch and I have no success until now. Bye
araignee said:
That's what I thought but I recorded my entire run this morning and there is no HR data available. Strange. Did you only paired your headphones with the watch ? Is there something to do inside the app on your phone ? In "sensors" section, and Bleutooth, I checked the box "Heart Rate Sensor". I don't know if I have to do it or not. And then In "Android wear" section, I checked the box "Beat Heart Rate". Are you able to see your HR data on the watch when you run by selecting the right info in the "wear settings" section ? Sorry for all my questions but I bought this Pulse for coupling it with my watch and I have no success until now. Bye
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No worries. It will work. I did turn the bluetooth off on the phone first. Do you have your screens on your watch set up to show your HR? I found (but I think it's been fixed) that if you import into certain apps such as endomondo, the gpx file that the watch/phone create don't show the HR info. As I stated I think that has been corrected.
Where are you looking that you don't see your HR information?
Also when you start the app and the headphones and watch are paired, do you hear "bluetooth smart connected"?
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No worries. It will work. I did turn the bluetooth off on the phone first. Do you have your screens on your watch set up to show your HR? I found (but I think it's been fixed) that if you import into certain apps such as endomondo, the gpx file that the watch/phone create don't show the HR info. As I stated I think that has been corrected.
Where are you looking that you don't see your HR information?
Also when you start the app and the headphones and watch are paired, do you hear "bluetooth smart connected"?
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IT WORKS !
I had to uncheck the box "Heart Rate Sensor" in the Bluetooth section of the phone app. I run the watch app once while it was paired with my phone and the phone app opened. I heard the message "Bluetooth smart connected". After that I had the ability to get it working as a standalone app on the watch. Many thanks for your help and have good runs
I'm in the market for new headphones. Every pair I get last about 2 months and then die, or I lose them...
Anyway, are the Pulse decent? How well do they work with the watch when running? I've had issues with having to have the phone on the right hand side and if the signal has to go through your body... Well you know it doesn't work!!
Works great. It seems that the signal bluetooth is broadcast from the right side of the headphones.
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Man, you went running on Christmas? That's pretty hard core.
jwelch010 said:
So I used it this afternoon and for 1 hour of GPS use was exactly 30% of my battery! I had music also playing the entire time.
So with the full charge you should be able to get about 3 hours and 20 minutes of GPS/music/heart rate use.
So basically now I can say that I have no regrets with my purchase (not to mention that I got the watch for $199 at the Verizon Store).
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Fitness tracking with our SW3

Hi everyone,
Coming from a xiaomi Mi band I had high expectations for the Sony watch's ability for fitness & activity tracking (steps, calories, distance, time, sleep). However, it has become clear that there seems to be no all-in-one solution available (yet). Since fitness & activity tracking for me is important purpose of this watch I decided to share my experiences with you and hope you will share yours with me. I will try and keep my experiences updated with the latest developments.
All-in-one
Currently there seem to be no apps availabe that are able to track activities, sporting sessions and sleep.
Sleep
Currently the only available working sleep tracker for the Smartwatch 3 seems to be Sleep as Android.
+ Tracks light sleep, deep sleep and time awake
+ Option to rate your sleep and use hashtags to add information like whether you drank alcohol, etc.
+ Detects snoring and wakes with vibration
- No automatic registration, needs to be manually started and stopped
- Heavy on battery, +/-25% per night
- Paid app
Update 24 september: somehow jawbone up seems to have a global way of sleeptracking. It will ask you every dat to conform your sleeping hours, which it seems to do pretty accurate. However no detailed sleep statistics.
Steps & activities
* Jawbone up
+ very nice interface & overview
+ converts steps into time and distance
- no sleep tracking
* Google Fit
- less nice design than jawbone
- inaccurate synchronisation of steps
- no conversion to time & distance
* Lifelog
+ very extensive tracking, not only fitness but also social activities, listening music, etc.
- cluttered design
- drains smartphone battery
- sleep tracking doesn't work for SWR50
Running with android wear & GPS integration
Endomondo
+ great interface
+ shows small map on watch
+ shows signal of GPS strength, does very accurate gps tracking
+ customizable views
- type of activity has to be set on smartphone
Runkeeper
+ simple interface
- Doesn't show GPS strength
- Type of activity has to be set on Phone
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
Ghostracer
+ simple interface
+ shows GPS strenght
+ interfaces with Runkeeper and/or Strava
+ activity type can be set on watch, but limited to running and cycling.
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
Update 24 september: I figured out that the differences in session times were caused by different algorithms/setting for auto pausing. So turning autopause off will fix the 'problem'.
My apps of preference are currently: Jawbone Up, Sleep as Android and ghostracer (syncing to runkeeper and strava).
I'm looking forward to reading your experiences with fitness apps on the Sony Smartwatch 3 and any additions to the app list are ofcourse very welcome!
I have been using fit and sleep as android. The latter does have wake detection but does not turn on and off automatically. To get that, you need to use tasker, but I have not wanted to do much with that because I have been working with my battery life.
I have noticed that sleep as android uses about 20-40% of my battery power.
I am on the latest update with tilt to wake on (but I sleep in theatre mode, the snorting detection still works well with that on), but WiFi on. As of now, I am using the stock kernel.
With all of that, I am getting about 30 hours of battery life.
Try also Sony Lifelog App. But GFit and LifeLog often fail to properly detect your activities.
Check out the UP app by jawbone. Works pretty well.
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Updated the topic start with my experiences so far.
sinvida said:
Updated the topic start with my experiences so far.
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Thank your for your detailed report !
I tried Jawbone Up and tracked my steps, but they differ from watch to phone. Can you please compare and tell me if they are the same ?
example today:
SW3: 4039 steps (40%)
Phone: 7341 steps (73%)
It seems like the phone tracks the steps itself but I disabled tracking at the first start of the jawbone app, so it should not track, only the watch should....
Please check it, thank you !
pietropizzi said:
Thank your for your detailed report !
I tried Jawbone Up and tracked my steps, but they differ from watch to phone. Can you please compare and tell me if they are the same ?
example today:
SW3: 4039 steps (40%)
Phone: 7341 steps (73%)
It seems like the phone tracks the steps itself but I disabled tracking at the first start of the jawbone app, so it should not track, only the watch should....
Please check it, thank you !
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Hi Pietropizzi,
I compared my steps in the smartwatch with the jawbone app and they matched 1:1. Do you have the up app with the purple icon?
sinvida said:
Hi Pietropizzi,
I compared my steps in the smartwatch with the jawbone app and they matched 1:1. Do you have the up app with the purple icon?
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Yes I do, I paired my watch at the first start and disabled steps tracking on the phone app. Thats strange....
edit : I rechecked the setting and saw that the motion sensor of the phone was activated. I disabled it now and will recheck the correct sync tomorrow !
Thanks for checking!
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I disabled Google fit and am now using Jawbone Up for steps counting as you suggested. It's working very well and it seems very accurate at the moment.
I connected my new jawbone account with MyFitnessPal to sync burned calories disabling my Withings pulse Ox activity tracker sync.
I am using Sleep as Android for sleep tracking too and have prepared music, bluetooth headset and the Adidas X_cell heart rate band to work with Ghostracer.
The only thing missing is my first "smartphoneless" run
Thank you for sharing your experience
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I have prepared music, bluetooth headset and the Adidas X_cell heart rate band to work with Ghostracer.
The only thing missing is my first "smartphoneless" run
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Do you pair ghostracer with strava or runkeeper? In my experience synchronisation with runkeeper is buggy... Curious if it works well with strava.
I just made a 30 secs try at home and it uploaded to runkeeper without any problems. I hope I can try everything tomorrow during a run and then upload of the right amount of data. I'll report back here
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sinvida said:
Do you pair ghostracer with strava or runkeeper? In my experience synchronisation with runkeeper is buggy... Curious if it works well with strava.
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I figured out why the synchronisation was off. It was due to the way different running apps, such as ghostracer, runkeeper and strava deal with auto-pause. They all seem to use different algorithms explaining the differences. If you leave auto pause off in all maps than synchronisation from ghostracer to runkeeper/strava matches 100%. Problem solved!
Also a little update on jawbone up. It does seem to have some way of sleep tracking. Every dat it ask me to conform if I slept from x to y hours and mostly its pretty accurate. However no detailed sleep analysis. So sleep as Android is still required.
My experiences.
I'm using UP by Jawbone as my Fitbit replacement. I'm using Ghostracer on my watch to record runs, which is does using the onboard GPS, I have some concerns about its accuracy however. I run a 5k parkrun every Saturday, which for months my Garmin watch has recorded at 4.8 kms long, my watch Runkeeper tells me it's 5.2 kms! I tried Endomondo on the watch, but it seems to keep ending my run without my pressing any button!
I upload run data to Strava, which works well.
If you have a load of friends who compete against each other using Fitbit etc - then matchup (a website) allows you (And users of other fitness bands) to compete against each other.
Ghostracer works the best for me out of all the apps for running and it exports to runkeeper which is cool.
sinvida said:
Do you pair ghostracer with strava or runkeeper? In my experience synchronisation with runkeeper is buggy... Curious if it works well with strava.
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I use SW3 and upload all my ghostracer tracks to stravia. So far, it works flawlessly.
Matter-of-factly, FITSO (A new fitness app) is pretty decent for fitness activities. It has all the basic as well as premium features of Strava, Runkeeper, Runtastic etc in its free version (doesn't have a paid version yet).
I think you guys should give it a try. Here's the link for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jogo.play
iOS users can search on their own
I only use the watch for tracking my running with Endomondo.
I have been using Endomondo since late 2012. Until Nov. 2015 on my phone and then on the watch. It has so fare been working flawless, and actuality the GPS tracking seem to be more accurate on the watch than on the phone.
sinvida said:
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Runkeeper
+ simple interface
- Doesn't show GPS strength
- Type of activity has to be set on Phone
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
Ghostracer
+ simple interface
+ shows GPS strenght
+ interfaces with Runkeeper and/or Strava
+ activity type can be set on watch, but limited to running and cycling.
- Synchronisation of session time with Runkeeper Phone app is bugged (See update)
...
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Runkeeper:
* does not show heart rate stats on AW
* does not allow customization of AW display
Ghostracer:
* displays heart rate stats on AW display
* allows customization of AW display
I also have noticed that there is big difference of the running reading with the watch and the phone. For example, I ran 2km. on my phone (using Nike running app), and on my phone it was 1.65km. I don't know which device to trust. But your opinions here are great and helpful.
Looking for a simple app to watch heartbeat?
Using a bluetooth brest strap like Polar H7?
An alert if the heart rate is too slow or too fast is usefull and necessary?
Works standalone?
Look here Heart Rate - Sport Gear + Wear :good:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pnn.android.sport_gear_tracker

Activity Tracker

Hi there,
I just got a Huawei Watch active. I want to use the watch as an activity tracker wich tracks my activity and if possible also my heart rate occasionally. I want to synchronize my burned calories with myfitnesspal.
Right now I got UP By Jawbone and Google fit. I use Google fit as main platform to collect all my sport tracking etc However, up and Google fit does not synchronize with each other.
Does anyone know a good app or good app setup so I can :
- daily activity tracking
- sleep tracking (sleep like android?)
- sport tracking (crossfit)
- heart rate measurement
- correct calorie counting
Thanks!
Yay! Someone who is actually using it as activity tracker. Me too. It seems most folks could care less.
Anyway, I tried several heart rate apps and settled on Perfect Cinch. It doesn't do constant (which kills battery anyway) but you can set it to check at different intervals. There is a two week free trial and it's worth paying for after that.
Sleep for Android seems to be the best app for that function.
I also use Fit, Up, and Huawei Wear. Still trying to see best combination of what works.
And there is an app called Fithub that will sync various apps into one.

Galaxy Watch as fitness tracker

Hello guys, anyone using the watch at gym?
I'm searching for a way how it should be useful for workout.
Today I did 24 different exercises at the gym but none was recorded.
How it should be used as a fitness tracker?
Finally any application for tracking the stats? Samsung health is pretty weak at this.
bill_viper said:
Hello guys, anyone using the watch at gym?
I'm searching for a way how it should be useful for workout.
Today I did 24 different exercises at the gym but none was recorded.
How it should be used as a fitness tracker?
Finally any application for tracking the stats? Samsung health is pretty weak at this.
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Only around 6 exercises are automatically tracked and you have e to switch on that tracking as it is not enabled by default.
You have to manually record your gym sessions I'm afraid.
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Only around 6 exercises are automatically tracked and you have e to switch on that tracking as it is not enabled by default.
You have to manually record your gym sessions I'm afraid.
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Oh I see, so there's no automation for the exercises. And it's pretty hard to switch them on when you're on 1 minute exercise and no rest between all of them.
The watch looks nice but is very bad for sports tracking. I play soccer and there is no track for that with this watch. I tried with "other workout" option but is very inaccurate
Bliko777 said:
The watch looks nice but is very bad for sports tracking. I play soccer and there is no track for that with this watch. I tried with "other workout" option but is very inaccurate
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You can Try Map My run - but best is gear tracker ( has corrections) - app like polar.
I just use mine at the gym to track my heart rate so using the "other workout" to track it is fine. Everything else seems to be redundant.
Does anyone know how to change the number of reps for the exercises? I think it's set at 10 reps by default?
The us an option for circuit training and it will give continuous reading
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I'm curious as I do weight training also, I tried using 'Other workout' and "weight machine' but I find that it's continually adding calories burnt whilst in between sets (1 min rest). Has anyone found the best way to track weight training without having to pause/resume the workout?
Have a look at the STRAVA app for the galaxy watch, this app brings more possible workout scenarios to the watch.
Try GymRun. It allows you to configure your workout with sets, reps as well as rest periods on your phone, and then you can sync with watch. Excercises will appear in the same order on your phone, and rest timer will begin automatically as soon as you press on "set completed" button. You will also be able to change how many reps/sets/pounds you did directly from the watch (you get to enter estimations on your phone). It costs 5 USD but worth the money in my opinion (Beware to not but the premuim version on mobile because that is a completly different thing). If you want something that would count the reps for you, you can use the embeded app for that, but like others said you have to start it manualy each time.

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