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[Q] Use SW3 to control MyTracks/GPS on phone?

Does anyone know if it' s possible to use the SW3 to control MyTracks (or some other GPS app) on the phone rather than using the integrated GPS in the SW3? I realize that the GPS is one of the main reasons why people choose this watch, but let's say that your watch battery is getting low while your phone has plenty of charge, so you'd rather use your phone's GPS. Of course you could just pull the phone out, but for the sake of argument let's say that it's inconvenient to get to your phone. For example, you're on a hike and it's in your backpack or you're out on the water and it's in a waterproof bag. So you just want to use the watch to control MyTracks on the phone. I guess this is probably not a real common use case, but I was hoping it would be possible.
I did an experiment yesterday to try and find out. I turned Location off in the SW3 settings, and then I opened the MyTracks app on the SW3. Surprisingly, MyTracks started up and let me start recording a new track. The distance traveled was even updating as I walked around. I left it on for a while, and the quick battery drain on the watch seemed to indicate that the SW3 GPS was actually on even though location had been disabled. It makes me wonder what the location on/off setting even does if it doesn't prevent an app from turning on the GPS (anybody know?). However, when I tried to pause or stop recording the track, it wouldn't let me. I would press the pause/stop button, and nothing would happen. MyTracks stayed running and recording, and I couldn't swipe it away. I finally had to just reboot the SW3 to get it to stop. The track that had been recording disappeared and never transferred to my phone. Maybe I'll try it again if I have time in the next few days, but I guess the first experiment wasn't too successful.

New Moto 360 battery died after 3 hours!

I've just changed from a Gear Live to a Moto 360 and after charging and syncing the battery died after three hours! Horrendous. Someone please advise! My gear Live with the same settings never did this.

Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.

chrispy_212 said:
Hi,
I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
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So which app was that. Could you be specific please? I've had my 360 since October and had no issues with battery life until about 2 weeks ago and now it can't make it through a work shift all of a sudden. I've seen the 'watch idle' and the android guy with no title in the battery stats (as well as 'Bluetooth', which is mind blowing) as the main drains but I can't figure out which apps need the boot. Thanks in advance for the help, this problem is driving me crazy!

For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.

chrispy_212 said:
Hi,
I just received a Moto 360, and I know what you're going through!
I've gone from 3 charges a day previously, and today the watch is reporting I have almost 2 days remaining of charge.
First, FULLY cycle the battery. Leave it on the stand over night, run it until it turns off (if you're in a rush, ambient display, full brightness!). Then, full charge to 100% and leave it for an hour on the charger once it is full.
After that, do a factory reset on the watch (in settings). In Android Wear on phone, use the settings menu to resync your apps.
Do one more full discharge and full charge, and you should be sorted.
If not, use the Watch Battery section of the wear app to identify problem apps. Before today, I had never seen a "watch idle" entry, because an app was holding the watch awake. Identifying and removing that app has solved the rest of my problems.
Hope all this works. Some of the steps seem/may be unnecessary, such as the factory reset, multiple full charge cycles. However, I speak from experience that they do work!
Edit: Do be aware that the charge cycles where you do a factory reset and sync will drastically drain the battery, giving the illusion that the problem is still there.
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chrispy_212 said:
For me it was WeChat. I didn't even know it had a wear component. However, using Wear Battery Stats (available on Google Play) I noticed that there was a missing icon under "app activity" because it had updated that day. Tapping on this blank icon told me it was an activity belonging to WeChat. Using this, I deduced that was the problem app. Removing it seems to have solved my issue. I'd recommend a similar process, although I only found this app on that day due to it updating, so you may struggle. I get the impression the standard of coding of wear apps so far is pretty shoddy, I don't think not providing a package name and icon is unusual or specific to this one app.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.

B1gC72 said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't use that specific app so no luck there. Good call on Wear Battery Stats though. I actually already use it but I'll use its stats this time instead of the standard wear stats. Thanks again, hopefully I can find the culprit, been having issues with my phone battery as well recently too.
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fyi - i haven't tested this since it happened, but i disabled BT on my phone (just disabled in settings, without disconnecting the wtch first) and the watch drained itself in probably about 20-30 minutes. When I finally got it charged, it said BT took everything.

When I was having app issues, I also noticed very high bluetooth consumption. This could likely be a poorly coded app constantly trying to ping your phone for data and receiving no reply as it is not designed for a scenario where your phone is not connected.
The alternative of course is defective hardware.
A step I did not include in my original post was that I also clean-flashed a new rom on my phone. I felt this was due to a unique problem that I had (bluetooth problems in car also) but nonetheless thought I should mention that too. It's hard to be sure which step exactly cured my watch.

Same was happening to me, after several master resets and trial and error, i found that on my Samsung s7 edge i had my watch set as a trusted device so when it was connected to my phone my device would unlock without passcode. After turning that off, battery life is normal again, 24hrs plus. I think the constant bluetooth checking to see if it was attached drained battery extremely fast, hopefully this helps someone

Watch's Heart Rate integration with Google Fit?

I have Google Fit installed on my phone which automatically installed also on my watch. I am able to successfully take my Heart Rate using the Fit application on the watch, but it appears that the results never sync with the app on the phone. When I click on "show graph details" then choose the "Heart Rate" graph, the results are always blank. However the Fit application on the watch clearly has several Heart Rate readings. Can someone let me know if this is the expected behavior? Has anyone been able to view their heart rate on the phone app?

I am looking for the same functionality. I am also wondering why the heart rates taken with with watch are not stored and displayed in Google fit.
Is there a section that we are both missing???

I'm not sure why - I didn't do anything special - but mine syncs perfectly fine.... Maybe try reinstalling Fit?

Make sure that under accounts and then google, you have google fit sync setting on.
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Also try re-syncing all apps from the Android wear app.

I can't seem to get sleep records to show in Fit, either. Weird.

I had (and probably having) problems with Google Fit too.
Fit on wear didn't sync with the smartphone app, neither with watch sensor (datas shown on Huawei Wear app), neither with Huawei Health, I had 4 different results.
I wiped Fit data (on the phone), reconnected the watch (so, wiped watch data) and now Fit seems working.
Steps are synced and I can see them on the phone, Sleep as Android datas are stored on Google Fit too.
However I don't use Huawei Healt anymore
Anyway, @GuyInDogSuit what app do you use to record sleep data?
And do you guys have managed how to record heart sensor data during the day? On my watch the sensor is working only during Sleep as Android tracking

aroblu94 said:
I had (and probably having) problems with Google Fit too.
Fit on wear didn't sync with the smartphone app, neither with watch sensor (datas shown on Huawei Wear app), neither with Huawei Health, I had 4 different results.
I wiped Fit data (on the phone), reconnected the watch (so, wiped watch data) and now Fit seems working.
Steps are synced and I can see them on the phone, Sleep as Android datas are stored on Google Fit too.
However I don't use Huawei Healt anymore
Anyway, @GuyInDogSuit what app do you use to record sleep data?
And do you guys have managed how to record heart sensor data during the day? On my watch the sensor is working only during Sleep as Android tracking
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I normally use Sleep as Android, though it's limited in what watches it works with. The Fit is not supported, though Huawei Watch 1 and 2 are. I'm thinking of returning the Fit and getting a full-blown Android Wear watch, probably the Huawei Watch since it's got more custom ROMs than any other and it has great features.

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I normally use Sleep as Android, though it's limited in what watches it works with. The Fit is not supported, though Huawei Watch 1 and 2 are. I'm thinking of returning the Fit and getting a full-blown Android Wear watch, probably the Huawei Watch since it's got more custom ROMs than any other and it has great features.
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Ops, I thought Fit = Google fit, not the hardware
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Ram overload causing lock-ups/crashes/reloads/bluetooth drops?

I've been having some issues with some apps crashing, freezing, or reloading abnormally on the watch whenever I'm playing music (from the watch directly) and tracking a run with Google Fit. It's usually either the launcher (Bubble Widgets), the watchface (Watchmaker premium) or the music (Wear Media) that starts to conk out at some point while I'm out for a run, which can get pretty annoying as I have to restart the music app or reconnect my bluetooth earphones, and check to make sure the Fit app is still tracking my progress. Could this possibly be due to memory issues - having too many things going in parallel that is causing these apps to fail?

Funny, I experience similar. My tracks , play music. Fit and life log run on background too. After 10 to 12 minutes the watch freezes and reboots... After that no problem, so memory leaks or whatever are possible good explanations

Apb said:
Funny, I experience similar. My tracks , play music. Fit and life log run on background too. After 10 to 12 minutes the watch freezes and reboots... After that no problem, so memory leaks or whatever are possible good explanations
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Ouch..i've never had reboots yet thankfully. I just hate how this thing's selling points for me (offline Music, offline fitness tracking and gps) don't work the way they should. I've noticed though that using one of the stock watch faces reduces the lag and app crashes a good amount, so i'll be adding "switch to the simplest stock watch face" to my pre-run checklist.

Yep, soms watch faces do cause instabilities, especially the more interactive ones on watchmaker do have that effect. Will check some more combinations in exercise to find better stability

HW AW2.0 General thoughts?

With a few useful actions missing, and really funky updating and subsequent battery drain-
How do you like AW 2.0 on your HW?
What do you miss the most?
What's your favorite new thing from 2.0?
Will you stay with 2.0?

I've been running DP for months and I don't really remember what I should be missing. I am happy with current performance and features will stay on 2.0

Edit.... Can't see poll in app....

jowofoto said:
With a few useful actions missing, and really funky updating and subsequent battery drain-
How do you like AW 2.0 on your HW?
What do you miss the most?
What's your favorite new thing from 2.0?
Will you stay with 2.0?
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1. Like it a lot. Just a little bit of a learning curve.
2. I miss the longer battery life. I charge it every night, but I was usually at 50% on 1.5, now I usually at 15%.
3. Answering calls. On 1.5, when I swiped to answer, I routinely swiped my launcher and lost the call. On 2.0 you tap to answer.
4. Definitely.

jowofoto said:
With a few useful actions missing, and really funky updating and subsequent battery drain-
How do you like AW 2.0 on your HW?
What do you miss the most?
What's your favorite new thing from 2.0?
Will you stay with 2.0?
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there are good things and very bad ones. I'm tending to not really like it. Reasons listed below.
I don't even know where to begin with... Here is a (probably incomplete) list of what I miss the most:
double tap on button for theater mode
contacts are not synced with the PHONE, instead it only syncs contacts from your Google account (which I'm not using, I'm using my own CardDAV server but I've seen already the exact same problem with Exchange, so this is not a niche problem - Calendar works well with my CalDAV server and is in sync with what is set up on the phone)
Google Now (all that below worked like a charm before the upgrade) - Google assistant is not really usable (for me at least), and far away from good or perfect:
it becomes quite useless without the contacts (can't make calls, as there are no contacts - can't send messages, etc.) - and making phone calls or sending messages is the primary use case for the voice control on my watch
saying "Call Jon Doe on mobile" (did a test cause I really need to call my wife often) keeps asking me for which number to call (seriously, Google Assistant? Are you that smart?)
saying "Send Telegram/WhatsApp/Text Message to Jon Deo - Hello World" will remain on a screen with buttons to cancel or send instead of sending that "Hello World" message (again: are you serious? Why should I use voice commands if I in return have to interact manually with my device again? What is the deeper meaning behind that?)
Old apps don't work anymore (I installed Heart Trace on the phone but it's not appearing on the watch - also not after doing the "sync apps" in the Wear app) - sure this will change for all apps that are still maintained by their devs - but others won't
notifications peek cards - especially for the music player. this is horrible and a really a big issue for me. And also for non-music player notifications: I just don't see at first sight (and without fiddeling with the watch) that there are notifications - the "complications" watch faces are ugly (IMHO) and I really hope that the dev of my watch face will include a small icon telling me that there are 1, 2, 3, 99 notifications pending.
tripple tap on the button for brightness boost - although I never used it (I just didn't know it existed until after upgrading to 2.0) I really see the benefit of this shortcut and would have started to use it - especially as summer is just around the corner and in bright sunlight the watch is hard to read.
swipe from right to left for the apps list (why would I want to swipe for changing the watch face??) swiping should really be associated to an action I use often - MAKE IT USER CONFIGURABLE!! (this holds true for most of the issues, and also for the good things below)
DND mode synced with the phone. Now, this is really controversial as it depends on the individual use case. I need it synced with the phone (either phone and watch muted or both on vibrate/loud). In any case: JUST LET THE USER DECIDE! (seriously, Google! How hard is this?)
battery live - was way better with AW1.5. Had 30-50% left after 22-24h - now it's completely drained after 20-22h with similar usage. Trying the stop sync over wifi setting next.
To be fair, there are a couple of nice features that I like:
the drop down quick settings - the individual screens for each setting were just horrible in terms of UX!
the apps carousel and the favorite apps shortcuts
the possibility to install apps directly on the watch
full fletched Telegram app (got to give props to the Telegram devs rather than to Google but still: I like)
possibility to stop the notifications from popping up all over the screen (a real problem if you are in a meeting at work with the customer and your friend sends you embarrassing messages so that every one can read them - other scenarios problematic, too) - instead now only a small icon appears and that's it
I'm really only centimeters/inches away from downgrading. Got the AW1.5 image already downloaded, giving AW2.0 some more days of testing, but if that list above keeps growing, I'll downgrade for sure.
There are also other issues with the UI/UX:
i.e., the scroll indicator on the right - historically, that makes sense. But on a watch (which most people are wearing on the left hand) when you reach to the screen for scrolling, you're actually obscuring the screen so you can't see the scroll bar anyway. So what's the point? also, the scroll indicator has the same size no matter how long the list is.
There is probably more, but I've had enough for today.
Cheers

dmckami said:
Old apps don't work anymore (I installed Heart Trace on the phone but it's not appearing on the watch - also not after doing the "sync apps" in the Wear app) - sure this will change for all apps that are still maintained by their devs - but others won't
Cheers
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Heart trace works. For some apps I get notifications on watch to install watch companion app, for others I have to manually install on watch via play store. Sometimes you can't find the app in the watch store unless you have it installed on the phone...

derausgewanderte said:
Heart trace works. For some apps I get notifications on watch to install watch companion app, for others I have to manually install on watch via play store. Sometimes you can't find the app in the watch store unless you have it installed on the phone...
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Thanks, I'll check that once I have charged the watch again. It ran out of battery mid-day today :-/

jowofoto said:
With a few useful actions missing, and really funky updating and subsequent battery drain-
How do you like AW 2.0 on your HW?
What do you miss the most?
What's your favorite new thing from 2.0?
Will you stay with 2.0?
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1. It's okay. There's a lot of potential, but it doesn't feel like it has been fully realized yet.
2. Not requiring me to press "ok" after I dictate a text message. That defeats the whole purpose of hands free messaging. The battery life downgrade is a bummer, but I charge my watch every night anyway so it doesn't really matter to me. I went from having 60-70% battery left in the afternoon to having about 50% left.
3. Facebook messenger finally works. In fact, all of my notifications work, though some work better than others. I'm looking at you, Outlook. Also, having a keyboard is nice. I think it works surprisingly well considering the tiny screen that it's on.
4. Yeah.

TheSt33v said:
. I'm looking at you, Outlook..
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You have Outlook installed on the watch? It's working for me.

With double and triple tap back it would be perfect for me.

derausgewanderte said:
You have Outlook installed on the watch? It's working for me.
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Yes, and it does work, but not as well as the other notifications. The notification is there when I swipe up, but it doesn't appear in a noticeable way when I first get it like my other apps. I have to go looking for it.

twitter on android wear 2.0
Is it just me or is there no twitter support for android wear 2.0?

Well my experience is that wear 2.0 is not an improvement as far as performance and efficiency goes. Been running it for 5 days. now. the watch is laggy, so much so that starting and stopping the stopwatch leads to unreliable times. press the stopwatch start button on my watch face and approx 1/2 second later it starts (tap and the vibration feedback also comes about 1/2 second later). any watch animations seem to be laggy like they are running at 20 frames. battery is lasting half as long (used to be 48 hours, now lucky if I get 24 hours). Love the new app launcher layout but in true google style they half arsed it and didn't carry it into a single other menu on the watch so the usual inconsistency from the guys that implement the standards, well done Google.

RudeboyXL said:
Well my experience is that wear 2.0 is not an improvement as far as performance and efficiency goes. Been running it for 5 days. now. the watch is laggy, so much so that starting and stopping the stopwatch leads to unreliable times. press the stopwatch start button on my watch face and approx 1/2 second later it starts (tap and the vibration feedback also comes about 1/2 second later). any watch animations seem to be laggy like they are running at 20 frames. battery is lasting half as long (used to be 48 hours, now lucky if I get 24 hours). Love the new app launcher layout but in true google style they half arsed it and didn't carry it into a single other menu on the watch so the usual inconsistency from the guys that implement the standards, well done Google.
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So I found that having the triple tap feature enabled for zooming was causing my touch reaction lag. no biggy, not a feature I need enabled. but I have found the battery life to be terrible. seems to have gotten worse. The watch uses about 5-10% per hour, if not more at times with little to no use. Can't even get through a full day. This is ridiculous. I went from having state of the art smartwatch with amazing UX to a power hungry wrist calculator. I literally don't like looking at my watch anymore as I'm without doubt going to see my battery drop about 15-20% since I last looked at it. Pathetic. I'm not performing another factory reset as it clearly is the ROM that's the problem. Huawei need to sort this out. All that time waiting and this is what we are given.

Usability wise, it's still nowhere nearly as comfortable to use an an Samsung Gear S3. That said, the UI is smoother and with better readable notifications. The Spotify-card on the Watch is a pain to use though. Sometimes it appears and sometimes it does not (also happens with Play Music).
Battery life is utterly dissapointing. I've had AW2.0 since OTA-day, now at least a week and I get about 1.5 days out of it. On AW1.5 I used to get 4-5 days out of it. Such an gigantic drop in batterylife is something I do NOT like. Now I can't brag about my watch lasting 5x longer than my collegue's Apple Watches :/
So far, Gear S3 is still by far the best watch money can buy. But if you really want Android Wear, imho the Huawei Watch still is by far the best buy.

1. Keyboard is not that easy to use but its good to have keyboard, apps got much better, battery drain is same as always for me (good).
2. I was on DP since DP4 released, but i remember AW1.5 had more beautiful UI that AW2's UI.
3. I can send voice messages via telegram!
4. Definitely.
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Other then the fact that somehow my max speaker volume changed to super low and the double tap to sleep is gone I am happy. Working with HW support, I did a reset which killed bat for about 4 hrs, but now bat life is same or slightly better than before and play services on watch is much smaller than after OTA update. New navigation took a day or two to get used to, but OK with it now. Like the fact that I have a little more control of what is on watch and how it is used. Probably going back to HW for speaker repair under warranty ( days left). Palm on watch to sleep doesn't work for me, but not a big deal. A few tweaks and it should be a nice OS.

amin318 said:
1. Keyboard is not that easy to use but its good to have keyboard, apps got much better, battery drain is same as always for me (good).
2. I was on DP since DP4 released, but i remember AW1.5 had more beautiful UI that AW2's UI.
3. I can send voice messages via telegram!
4. Definitely.
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The voice message feature for telegram is great! It actually makes the watch smarter...no more quick replies or voice message via Google(especially if you speak in an unsupported language)....
And you can also hear the voice messages you receive on the watch directly via the speaker....
Just like a wrist walkie talkie
I just pray to god Whatsapp will implement this as well...

2.0 is the single worst software update I have ever seen. ...
It's almost as if it bypassed even the simplest quality control check!!
Swipe left is now taking you to a watchface rather than menu?? Like seriously?? OMG
Where can I downgrade?