Hello im new to this, so before i go messing my phone up, i was wondering what the best and most stable custom ROMS are for the
m8ql_ul, preferably with no bloatware. Thanks in advanced
Mine: Cyanogenmod 12.1.
You shouldn't use PandoraROM, it is a bit old and should be removed. I haven't used it but I'm skeptical, I think it's just a modified Sense ROM. Worst thing: it still has the stagefright bug. So I don't recommend to use it.
There simply are no other ROMs for this device and no S-Off either.
And im guessing that trying to use roms for the M8 are a NONO
Correct. It's a totally different device. But it looks the same, so HTC just decided to call it M8s. Silly huh.
Well that sucks, i cant even remove the bloatware from the device as it is. what about stock roms minus the bloatware?
Just use Cyanogenmod. It's what you want. Sure, you can take out the bloat from Sense, but that will prevent future updates from working and will cause you much additional grey hairs. With Cyanogenmod 12.1 I already did that work (and grew the grey hairs!).
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.
I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
I decided to wait to see the lay of the land instead of diving in for the OTA update, and after seeing all the issues people had with the Market and then not being able to gain root access and green cameras amongst other things, I'm glad I did.
So now I believe it's safe. I'm already running Pay's 2.2 with Sense, but a few things don't work in it so I'd like to go to the official HTC build...problem is every chef has to ADD their own little flair to every ROM they release. I don't want extras or Arabic or Chinese or edited host files or to have half the apps removed or random dev apps added. I just want the exact ROM released by HTC, but rooted.
I can't find it community..maybe because I'm stupid. Can you help?
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Found exactly what I was after at last:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
+1 As well. I would like to flash a simple stock ROM that has all the HTC bloatware removed. I don't do stocks, facebook, twitter and so on but haven't found nothing yet. I guess the Devs need to to disect the official ROM, a bit more waiting then.
I guess i better start looking into rooting my Desire via Unrevoked to enable me to flash the ROM when it becomes available.
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+1 As well. I would like to flash a simple stock ROM that has all the HTC bloatware removed. I don't do stocks, facebook, twitter and so on but haven't found nothing yet. I guess the Devs need to to disect the official ROM, a bit more waiting then.
I guess i better start looking into rooting my Desire via Unrevoked to enable me to flash the ROM when it becomes available.
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From what I've seen you can get that sort of thing easily. It's the reverse I was actually looking for. I DO use most of the stuff HTC ship with their build, apart from Teeter and Plurk, but every ROM I've seen goes to the pains of removing almost everything I use!
I use the froyo sense ROM from the open desire team which has the minimal mods but it sound like this is the one you're after...
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=741775
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I use the froyo sense ROM from the open desire team which has the minimal mods but it sound like this is the one you're after...
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=741775
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Yeah thanks, found it just before you posted. Appreciated anyway.
Hello all,
I like many others, I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
I have seen many guide to install ROMS and it seems more or less clear.
My problem, and maybe the problem for other noobs if the fact that there are so many ROMs out there. It is difficult to know which one to take.
For example, I am looking for plain old stock android 2.3 for the desire. No sense, no extra HTC apps. Just what google would have on the nexus 1. But, I cant figure out which ROM fits that.
Any ideas?
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
Get Oxygen Rom mate its nice and basic , if u want to go too basic get DevNull
But for starters i think u shud go with oxygen
Pm me if u want to discuss any other details
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I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
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Well, if you installed official Gingerbread 3.14.405.1 RUU, you can't get root (yet). No root means that you can't install custom rom.
pablo_max said:
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
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Isn't there one already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
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watch the video tutorial too - but it sounds like you want an AOSP rom
Yup, you definitely wanna try Oxygen + it was recently updated to Android 2.3.5.
It's sense free, all bloatware removed, very fast & minimalistic.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=149 (it wasn't updated on XDA yet, but you can download it from there)
CyanogenMod7 will also fit you.
Should have read into what you were doing before you updated. You can't root now, which means no custom ROMs for you. HTC updated HBOOT so no more rooting for the time being. You're stuck with it till someone cracks it. Unlucky dude.
My recommendation:
Sense (2.1+3.0) : InsertCoin 1.0.9
AOSP: Oxygen
no MIUI from me...sorry..
Thanks for all the replies. I am pretty sure it is only a matter of days or weeks at most until I can root. I recall the same situation last update.
It sounds like oxygen is the way to go. Once the root is available I will give it a shot. Thanks.
Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!
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Does anyone have a working link to a stock EVO 4G stock ROM that can then be used to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever? I've been searching around here and the Internet in general, but I'm having trouble wading through the sea of dead links to stock ROMs and links to ROMs that have been hacked to remove radios and whatnot.
I've been using the last good Evervolv JB ROM and it's just too unstable, and my radios and stuff are probably out of date too, so I'd like to try going back to stock for a while.
Note regarding root: It would be nice to be able to keep root, but not if it means having to use stock ROMs that have been modified to the point where it will be a pain to update to the latest stock ROM+radios+whatever. I can always re-unroot myself if needed.
Thanks!
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I'm looking for the exact same thing... I'd like to go back to the stock HTC Sense ROM, but I've lost my old backup copy (long story) and having trouble finding a suitable replacement. Did you happen to save a backup of your stock ROM before switching to the Evervolv ROM? If so, could you send me the Zip?
Or, if anyone out there on the forum could help, that would be great.
I was hoping to get some benefit to a more recent version of Android, but all the ROM's I've tried thus far seem to have one glitch after another. I'd prefer to go back to a stock, or some slightly upgraded version of the SENSE IU. Any suggestions appreciated.
I downloaded this ROM as it looked like a good "SENSE-esque" ROM, and looks like most everything is working on this version.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?12344-ROM-5-09-12-New!!The-Express!!-Updated!!-Working4G!!-Full-Landscape-Sense-3-0-Aroma-Installer!!&p=203943#post203943
Thoughts?
I don't have a backup of my stock ROM as far as I know.
I really wanted something close to stock, so I think I ended up settling on [Rom]TN_Elousions3.2_OTA_5.07.651.6_Deoxed_Stock_Theme.zip which is a moderate mod of the last stock ROM.
I ended up going through the S-OFF process as well to make sure that I had the latest radios and such.
It's functional, but between the Sense changes and the fact that it's Gingerbread-based means that there are some things about the UI that just aren't as nice as Evervolv. The upshot is that the battery consumption is lower and the hardware features work or work better (4G, FFC, camcorder, FM radio, etc.).
I'm tempted to try one of the last official Cyanogen ROMs just to see if I like the UI better than Sense, but I'll probably just stick it out until I get a new phone.
Got my hands on a European M8 (M8_UL) after a terrible experience with the Sprint variant.
Anyway, I forked out 25 dollars for the Sunshine license and it really was worth it. I thought it'd be confusing, like Revone or Firewater.
It's amazing how an app can get S-OFF without any fastboot/adb codes, it literally took 5 minutes.
Anyway, I got S-OFF, changed CID to HTC__001 and am currently running 6.12.401.4 (Android 6.0), but I'm a bit bored.
So I was wondering what other benefits are there of S-OFF other than flashing a different regions ROM?
Also, do you guys reckon that I mess around with Sense 7 and flash different custom ROMs or do I go ahead and convert to GPE? I'm a big fan of Stock Android (huge surprise, my main phone is a Nexus 6), but I've really come to like HTC Sense after the Sense 5.0 update, Sense 7.0 is pretty awesome and way better than TouchWiz on my recently retired Galaxy S6.
And lastly,how long will the M8 last from now in terms of software updates?
Asking about both Sense and GPE, will it get Android N or is 6.0 the last software update for both variants?
Any replies will be greatly appreciated.
murtaza02 said:
So I was wondering what other benefits are there of S-OFF other than flashing a different regions ROM?
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There is a variety of things that can be done, such as manually flashing different radios, and modded hboots (to remove the red warning text on the boot screen).
S-off allows you to downgrade firmware; and also bypasses the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
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Also, do you guys reckon that I mess around with Sense 7 and flash different custom ROMs or do I go ahead and convert to GPE? I'm a big fan of Stock Android (huge surprise, my main phone is a Nexus 6), but I've really come to like HTC Sense
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You don't need to "fully convert" in order to run a GPE ROM. Just pick a GPE based ROM from the Development section, and flash it like any other custom ROM. Make a backup in TWRP, and you can easily revert to Sense. S-off is not required to do any of this.
S-off is only required if you want to "fully convert" to GPE using RUU. The main reasons for converting, are to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system partition results in more media storage); and to get official GPE updates. However, you would need to convert back to Sense partitioning, in order to run Sense ROMs (otherwise, the system partition is too small to accept Sense ROMs, and the install will fail).
All in all, it sounds like flashing a GPE ROM is probably the best for your, since it sounds like you may want to switch back and forth between GPE and Sense. If you try the GPE ROM, and decide you like it, you can always decide later to "convert" to GPE fully.
And if you are bored with the stock OS, then yes that probably means you are ready to flash some custom ROMs to mix things up (whether it be Sense or GPE ROMs, or trying both!). As with a lot of things on XDA, if you've thought about it enough to post . . . well that probably means you are ready to do it!
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And lastly,how long will the M8 last from now in terms of software updates?
Asking about both Sense and GPE, will it get Android N or is 6.0 the last software update for both variants?
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I don't think any one knows this but HTC. And they may not even have decided that yet, depending a lot on their financial standing and whether they have the resources to keep supporting this device (in addition to more newer devices).
From what I can find (don't own the phone), the M7 has stopped at Lollipop, with no official update to MM. Based on that I'd expect the official updates for the M8 to stop at MM, or at the latest N. But again, only time will tell. And even once official updates have stopped, this device will probably still have some decent support from CM and other AOSP developers.
Overall, we've enjoyed some good updates from HTC. In contrast, I'm pretty pissed (as are others) with Samsung for their lack of support on my Tab Pro 8.4. While more popular Sammy devices (Galaxy S phones, Note phones) are getting updated; Sammy pretty much abandoned the Tab Pro 8.4 out of the gate. It had a minor update in the first few months, but never got past the KitKat OS it was released with.
redpoint73 said:
There is a variety of things that can be done, such as manually flashing different radios, and modded hboots (to remove the red warning text on the boot screen).
S-off allows you to downgrade firmware; and also bypasses the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
You don't need to "fully convert" in order to run a GPE ROM. Just pick a GPE based ROM from the Development section, and flash it like any other custom ROM. Make a backup in TWRP, and you can easily revert to Sense. S-off is not required to do any of this.
S-off is only required if you want to "fully convert" to GPE using RUU. The main reasons for converting, are to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system partition results in more media storage); and to get official GPE updates. However, you would need to convert back to Sense partitioning, in order to run Sense ROMs (otherwise, the system partition is too small to accept Sense ROMs, and the install will fail).
All in all, it sounds like flashing a GPE ROM is probably the best for your, since it sounds like you may want to switch back and forth between GPE and Sense. And if you are bored with the stock OS, then yes that probably means you are ready to flash some custom ROMs to mix things up (whether it be Sense or GPE ROMs, or both!).
I don't think any one knows this but HTC. And they may not even have decided that yet, depending a lot on their financial standing and whether they have the resources to keep supporting this device (in addition to more newer devices).
From what I can find (don't own the phone), the M7 has stopped at Lollipop, with no official update to MM. Based on that I'd expect the official updates for the M8 to stop at MM, or at the latest N. But again, only time will tell. And even once official updates have stopped, this device will probably still have some decent support from CM and other AOSP developers.
Overall, we've enjoyed some good updates from HTC. In contrast, I'm pretty pissed (as are others) with Samsung for their lack of support on my Tab Pro 8.4. While more popular Sammy devices (Galaxy S phones, Note phones) are getting updated; Sammy pretty much abandoned the Tab Pro 8.4 out of the gate. It had a minor update in the first few months, but never got past the KitKat OS it was released with.
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Best reply I've ever read on XDA.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to write me such a detailed post.
Since the phone has a custom recovery, I think I'll start off with ViperOne or ARHD and then move towards GPE eventually when I get bored.
Again, thank you so much.
As for what you said about the Tab Pro, it's sad how Samsung is with their devices, the main reason I sold my S6 for a Nexus 6.
I was about to buy one (a Tab Pro) when a friend of mine discouraged me saying Samsung is barely able to update all their phones, let alone the tons of different tablets they release. So I held back, didn't buy one.
However, the Tab Pro has a Snapdragon 800 processor so it should have decent developer support, or at least a working lollipop ROM.
Sent from my Nexus 6
murtaza02 said:
I was about to buy one (a Tab Pro) when a friend of mine discouraged me saying Samsung is barely able to update all their phones, let alone the tons of different tablets they release. So I held back, didn't buy one.
However, the Tab Pro has a Snapdragon 800 processor so it should have decent developer support, or at least a working lollipop ROM.
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That's correct, that XDA has been the savior for that device. It not only enjoyed Lollipop support via CM, but even Marshmallow. Probably the only reason I've been able to stick with the device for this long.
You made the right call not getting the Tab Pro. Not just for lack of updates, but mine (and seemingly a significant number or others) suffer from a hardware/battery connection issue where the battery does not always charge to full, but stops at random % along the way; and needs to be rebooted to continue charging.
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murtaza02 said:
Best reply I've ever read on XDA.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to write me such a detailed post.
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Appreciate you saying so, and you're very welcome.