Got my hands on a European M8 (M8_UL) after a terrible experience with the Sprint variant.
Anyway, I forked out 25 dollars for the Sunshine license and it really was worth it. I thought it'd be confusing, like Revone or Firewater.
It's amazing how an app can get S-OFF without any fastboot/adb codes, it literally took 5 minutes.
Anyway, I got S-OFF, changed CID to HTC__001 and am currently running 6.12.401.4 (Android 6.0), but I'm a bit bored.
So I was wondering what other benefits are there of S-OFF other than flashing a different regions ROM?
Also, do you guys reckon that I mess around with Sense 7 and flash different custom ROMs or do I go ahead and convert to GPE? I'm a big fan of Stock Android (huge surprise, my main phone is a Nexus 6), but I've really come to like HTC Sense after the Sense 5.0 update, Sense 7.0 is pretty awesome and way better than TouchWiz on my recently retired Galaxy S6.
And lastly,how long will the M8 last from now in terms of software updates?
Asking about both Sense and GPE, will it get Android N or is 6.0 the last software update for both variants?
Any replies will be greatly appreciated.
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So I was wondering what other benefits are there of S-OFF other than flashing a different regions ROM?
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There is a variety of things that can be done, such as manually flashing different radios, and modded hboots (to remove the red warning text on the boot screen).
S-off allows you to downgrade firmware; and also bypasses the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
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Also, do you guys reckon that I mess around with Sense 7 and flash different custom ROMs or do I go ahead and convert to GPE? I'm a big fan of Stock Android (huge surprise, my main phone is a Nexus 6), but I've really come to like HTC Sense
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You don't need to "fully convert" in order to run a GPE ROM. Just pick a GPE based ROM from the Development section, and flash it like any other custom ROM. Make a backup in TWRP, and you can easily revert to Sense. S-off is not required to do any of this.
S-off is only required if you want to "fully convert" to GPE using RUU. The main reasons for converting, are to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system partition results in more media storage); and to get official GPE updates. However, you would need to convert back to Sense partitioning, in order to run Sense ROMs (otherwise, the system partition is too small to accept Sense ROMs, and the install will fail).
All in all, it sounds like flashing a GPE ROM is probably the best for your, since it sounds like you may want to switch back and forth between GPE and Sense. If you try the GPE ROM, and decide you like it, you can always decide later to "convert" to GPE fully.
And if you are bored with the stock OS, then yes that probably means you are ready to flash some custom ROMs to mix things up (whether it be Sense or GPE ROMs, or trying both!). As with a lot of things on XDA, if you've thought about it enough to post . . . well that probably means you are ready to do it!
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And lastly,how long will the M8 last from now in terms of software updates?
Asking about both Sense and GPE, will it get Android N or is 6.0 the last software update for both variants?
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I don't think any one knows this but HTC. And they may not even have decided that yet, depending a lot on their financial standing and whether they have the resources to keep supporting this device (in addition to more newer devices).
From what I can find (don't own the phone), the M7 has stopped at Lollipop, with no official update to MM. Based on that I'd expect the official updates for the M8 to stop at MM, or at the latest N. But again, only time will tell. And even once official updates have stopped, this device will probably still have some decent support from CM and other AOSP developers.
Overall, we've enjoyed some good updates from HTC. In contrast, I'm pretty pissed (as are others) with Samsung for their lack of support on my Tab Pro 8.4. While more popular Sammy devices (Galaxy S phones, Note phones) are getting updated; Sammy pretty much abandoned the Tab Pro 8.4 out of the gate. It had a minor update in the first few months, but never got past the KitKat OS it was released with.
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There is a variety of things that can be done, such as manually flashing different radios, and modded hboots (to remove the red warning text on the boot screen).
S-off allows you to downgrade firmware; and also bypasses the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
You don't need to "fully convert" in order to run a GPE ROM. Just pick a GPE based ROM from the Development section, and flash it like any other custom ROM. Make a backup in TWRP, and you can easily revert to Sense. S-off is not required to do any of this.
S-off is only required if you want to "fully convert" to GPE using RUU. The main reasons for converting, are to get the GPE partition scheme (smaller system partition results in more media storage); and to get official GPE updates. However, you would need to convert back to Sense partitioning, in order to run Sense ROMs (otherwise, the system partition is too small to accept Sense ROMs, and the install will fail).
All in all, it sounds like flashing a GPE ROM is probably the best for your, since it sounds like you may want to switch back and forth between GPE and Sense. And if you are bored with the stock OS, then yes that probably means you are ready to flash some custom ROMs to mix things up (whether it be Sense or GPE ROMs, or both!).
I don't think any one knows this but HTC. And they may not even have decided that yet, depending a lot on their financial standing and whether they have the resources to keep supporting this device (in addition to more newer devices).
From what I can find (don't own the phone), the M7 has stopped at Lollipop, with no official update to MM. Based on that I'd expect the official updates for the M8 to stop at MM, or at the latest N. But again, only time will tell. And even once official updates have stopped, this device will probably still have some decent support from CM and other AOSP developers.
Overall, we've enjoyed some good updates from HTC. In contrast, I'm pretty pissed (as are others) with Samsung for their lack of support on my Tab Pro 8.4. While more popular Sammy devices (Galaxy S phones, Note phones) are getting updated; Sammy pretty much abandoned the Tab Pro 8.4 out of the gate. It had a minor update in the first few months, but never got past the KitKat OS it was released with.
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Best reply I've ever read on XDA.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to write me such a detailed post.
Since the phone has a custom recovery, I think I'll start off with ViperOne or ARHD and then move towards GPE eventually when I get bored.
Again, thank you so much.
As for what you said about the Tab Pro, it's sad how Samsung is with their devices, the main reason I sold my S6 for a Nexus 6.
I was about to buy one (a Tab Pro) when a friend of mine discouraged me saying Samsung is barely able to update all their phones, let alone the tons of different tablets they release. So I held back, didn't buy one.
However, the Tab Pro has a Snapdragon 800 processor so it should have decent developer support, or at least a working lollipop ROM.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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I was about to buy one (a Tab Pro) when a friend of mine discouraged me saying Samsung is barely able to update all their phones, let alone the tons of different tablets they release. So I held back, didn't buy one.
However, the Tab Pro has a Snapdragon 800 processor so it should have decent developer support, or at least a working lollipop ROM.
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That's correct, that XDA has been the savior for that device. It not only enjoyed Lollipop support via CM, but even Marshmallow. Probably the only reason I've been able to stick with the device for this long.
You made the right call not getting the Tab Pro. Not just for lack of updates, but mine (and seemingly a significant number or others) suffer from a hardware/battery connection issue where the battery does not always charge to full, but stops at random % along the way; and needs to be rebooted to continue charging.
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Best reply I've ever read on XDA.
Thank you so much for taking the time out to write me such a detailed post.
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Appreciate you saying so, and you're very welcome.
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.
I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.
Hello everyone:
I am a new (used) Galaxy Note 3 owner. I bought an LG G2 3 weeks or so ago, spent that 3 weeks studying, rooting, installing recovery and finally installing and tweaking Cloudy G2 ROM. Just as I got my G2 running flawlessly it slipped from my shirt pocket as I was grilling, bounced off the grill and landed face down on the car port thus smashing the screen to pieces. :crying: What a waste of time installing that cheap screen protector the previous evening.
Anyway, I found a great deal on a used Note 3 so I went ahead and bought that rather than another G2. So now, I need to update my Note 3 just like I did the G2. Since I am running short on time at the moment I just want to get some ideas on where to start. I do intend to read everything I can on XDA but some helpful tips would really assist me with getting this finished sooner rather than later.
So....Right now the phone has stock 4.4.2 loaded and the knox counter is not tripped.
Baseband version is:N900TUVUCNB4
Security Software Version is:MDF v1.0 Release 2.
I am not at all familiar with this security stuff so any tips here on what exactly this is would be most appreciated.
My goal is:
1. root the device
2. install recovery prefer twrp but cwm will do if necessary
3. install a good ROM (Preferably Lollipop based ROM)
4. I would like to have xPosed Framework support too if possible. Of course this depends on the ROM I presume.
I have heard that Samsung Note 3 is a real bear to root. Also that the Odin software can be dangerous. I have no idea if this is true or not so please help me here.
I was also wondering whether it would be best to root the phone while on KitKat, or upgrade to stock lollipop first and then start the root/recovery process.
I'd really really appreciate all the help I can get from anyone that has owned a note 3 and has already been all through this process.
Thanks...Olin
Oh well, no replies? Man this Samsung device is rather overwhelming what with all the various scenarios. I am thinking of going with temasek's Unofficial CM12.1, or DOMPOP, or maybe Darklord. But I am still completely unsure whether to upgrade to stock Lollipop before I start on the root/recovery/ROM project. I also need to read everything I can find on these 3 roms.
But please, if you have any comments on which of these 3 ROMS is the best for the note 3 and/or comments on the best root/recovery method then by all means point me in the right direction.
Thanks so much for any help at all.
people just aren't as helpful around here as they used to be. Either that or not many use the note 3 anymore. But nevermind I figured it out anyway as I knew I eventually would.
Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading
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Hey!
I'm sort of in the same boat as you..
would appreciate some feed back see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/help/nexus-4-to-note-3-questions-t3173473
Not sure if my jelly bean note is at its peak performance now.. it performs so well but i wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading
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Hey Beegbear:
I have decided to stay with KitKat for now because of the fact you can't use the xPosed framework on Lollipop and the fact KitKat is just a more stable platform and has many more Roms available. I used this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765014
to get my Note 3 on the newest stock KitKat rom, then root it, then install the latest TWRP recovery. I carefully followed the exact steps in this guide except that I did use a newer TWRP recovery I downloaded from: https://dl.twrp.me/hltetmo/twrp-2.8.7.0-hltetmo-4.4.img.tar
Other than using this newer TWRP I went step by step through this guide. I still plan on installing a custom KitKat rom but right now I am researching various roms to try and decide which one. But at least I have latest stock, root, and a good recovery right now.
I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.
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I'd start with Tweaked. A flawless TW KK ROM. Only if unsatisfied would I bother with LP. Apparently the developer is working on an LP variant, but we'll see. He releases long after others, due to commitments, but well worth the wait. There is an xposed for LP available, but carefully research what modules work with it and compare to what you want.
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Thanks a lot. You caught me just before I was about to install Hyperdrive N3 RLS7.1. I'd like to ask you what you think of this ROM?
And as for tweaked, I have come across two possible versions of a "tweaked" ROM. Tweaked ROM [Material L Theme] and TweakedN3 v3.x. Are these actually the same ROM? I'm looking around but still am not sure on this.
Thanks for your reply.
Olin
Well I "think" I have it figured out and I am in fact going to go with the Tweaked ROM, basic install procedure. Thanks so much for your advice ytj87 - I would have installed that other ROM if I had not seen your post. I may do that down the road anyway but I intend to give Tweaked a thorough test before I do. It looks great and based on forum info it seems less buggy than most of the other roms I researched.
Olin
Will probably come down to the experience you want. Tweaked is more stock with an emphasis on stability. I haven't used Hyperdrive, but when you see a ROM like that which integrates something other than the Note 3 TW UI, you're more likely to see glitches. It's the same NF9 base, though, and it has been around a while, and it looks interesting, so at some point give it a shot if curious. I personally prefer the Note 3 original UI to the S5's, so I probably won't try it.
TweakedN3 3.95. The LP themed one I haven't used.
Hi guys
New to all this stuff, have a bunch of questions here it would be nice to get answers
browsing the forum, found many threads of GPe custom roms
Is there a way to convert to Stock GPe Rom ?
What are the most popular Custom GPe Rom ?
Is there a way to revert to absolutely stock settings in case of a major catastrophy or mind change ?
You need a lollipop firnware, then you can flash all GPE custom roms from this forum.
Full converting is possible but ONLY if you have S-OFF ! You need the full RUU to do that.
If you just want to try GPE roms i suggest to just flash a custom one. If you don't like it you can easily flash a sense stock or custom rom again.
Converting back to sense needs a sense stock firmware and/or the full sense stock RUU.
Read on the GPE custom rom threads and see what YOU like, try it. The most popular doesn't mean the best, the best rom is the one that suits you the most
Happy flashing !
I've been running skydragon gpe (just couldn't face the hassle of going full gpe) almost exclusively since I got my m8, and each time I have flashed other (mostly sense based) ROMs I've flashed back to SD within a day or so
It's a lovely clean and smooth rom!
Mr Hofs said:
You need a lollipop firnware, then you can flash all GPE custom roms from this forum.
Full converting is possible but ONLY if you have S-OFF ! You need the full RUU to do that.
If you just want to try GPE roms i suggest to just flash a custom one. If you don't like it you can easily flash a sense stock or custom rom again.
Converting back to sense needs a sense stock firmware and/or the full sense stock RUU.
Read on the GPE custom rom threads and see what YOU like, try it. The most popular doesn't mean the best, the best rom is the one that suits you the most
Happy flashing !
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If I understand correctly, full convert as well as converting back to stock is possible, I come from a nexus ecosystem, I am familiar with stock android experience and pretty uncomfortable with sense, touchwiz and stuff... I want to fully convert my One M8 Eye GPe and revert it back only in case I have to sell it
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If I understand correctly, full convert as well as converting back to stock is possible, I come from a nexus ecosystem, I am familiar with stock android experience and pretty uncomfortable with sense, touchwiz and stuff... I want to fully convert my One M8 Eye GPe and revert it back only in case I have to sell it
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M8 EYE ? Be careful now....that's a different device from the M8 !
well well
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M8 EYE ? Be careful now....that's a different device from the M8 !
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Well, I thought maybe with two pounds of luck it would work, there's no m8 eye forum in here
what are my options here ? no full convert ? custom rom ? stick with sence & install google now ? that last one was my starting idea but I really really hate the notification center icons....
Hello im new to this, so before i go messing my phone up, i was wondering what the best and most stable custom ROMS are for the
m8ql_ul, preferably with no bloatware. Thanks in advanced
Mine: Cyanogenmod 12.1.
You shouldn't use PandoraROM, it is a bit old and should be removed. I haven't used it but I'm skeptical, I think it's just a modified Sense ROM. Worst thing: it still has the stagefright bug. So I don't recommend to use it.
There simply are no other ROMs for this device and no S-Off either.
And im guessing that trying to use roms for the M8 are a NONO
Correct. It's a totally different device. But it looks the same, so HTC just decided to call it M8s. Silly huh.
Well that sucks, i cant even remove the bloatware from the device as it is. what about stock roms minus the bloatware?
Just use Cyanogenmod. It's what you want. Sure, you can take out the bloat from Sense, but that will prevent future updates from working and will cause you much additional grey hairs. With Cyanogenmod 12.1 I already did that work (and grew the grey hairs!).
Been perusing the forums and I've seen a few anecdotal opinions on using one or the other, but not enough to catch a trend. Have we arrived at a consensus?
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PD1 is the better of the two but still not without its flaws. Both run hot and kill battery life but PF3 is the buggier of the two. So far, nothing beat the original KitKat 4.4.4 build but the January 5.1.1 update, BOK3, is the best of the recent batch for battery life & reception.
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PD1 is the better of the two but still not without its flaws. Both run hot and kill battery life but PF3 is the buggier of the two. So far, nothing beat the original KitKat 4.4.4 build but the January 5.1.1 update, BOK3, is the best of the recent batch for battery life & reception.
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I sure do agree that they run hot especially withe GPS and/or hotspot active. So, confirming, with what you have have seen using the PD1 kernel for marshmallow is best? Can BOK3 be used for marshmallow or do I have to have a MM kernel for marshmallow; I would assume that.
I assume this is only for the kernel and the bootloader should stay at BPA/BPD with the safe update according to @hsbadr.
Finally, I have been thinking of trying out a kitkat rom and a lollipop rom on my dev'd Retail N910V. Do you think that is possible? I would assume that I need to flash a kitkat kernel and the BPA kernel appropriately. But I can leave my bootloader at BPA1 or BPD1 correct?
Any tips/links for changing roms (kitkat, lollipop, marshmallow) appreciated.
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I sure do agree that they run hot especially withe GPS and/or hotspot active. So, confirming, with what you have have seen using the PD1 kernel for marshmallow is best? Can BOK3 be used for marshmallow or do I have to have a MM kernel for marshmallow; I would assume that.
I assume this is only for the kernel and the bootloader should stay at BPA/BPD with the safe update according to @hsbadr.
Finally, I have been thinking of trying out a kitkat rom and a lollipop rom on my dev'd Retail N910V. Do you think that is possible? I would assume that I need to flash a kitkat kernel and the BPA kernel appropriately. But I can leave my bootloader at BPA1 or BPD1 correct?
Any tips/links for changing roms (kitkat, lollipop, marshmallow) appreciated.
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These are not kernels. They are bootloader/modem combos. I do not think it is wise to flash a Marshmallow modem on a Lollipop bootloader. I would also not be flashing bootloaders when I don't know what I'm doing. There is no instruction on this forum that requires flashing either bootloaders or modems by themselves. If you want a Marshmallow modem you have two options: flash the full firmware, lock your bootloader and lose root, or follow the procedure for upgrading to Marshmallow in the development section. You seem to be confused between the terms "kernel," "bootloader," and "modem." I'd suggest you do a bit of homework to learn the differences before you start flashing anything.
If yours is a true Developer Edition phone, you can peruse the Development section. I'm not aware of any KitKat or Lollipop ROM that is being supported, but most of those ROMS were created when you couldn't unlock a Retail Edition phone.
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These are not kernels. They are bootloader/modem combos. I do not think it is wise to flash a Marshmallow modem on a Lollipop bootloader. I would also not be flashing bootloaders when I don't know what I'm doing. There is no instruction on this forum that requires flashing either bootloaders or modems by themselves. If you want a Marshmallow modem you have two options: flash the full firmware, lock your bootloader and lose root, or follow the procedure for upgrading to Marshmallow in the development section. You seem to be confused between the terms "kernel," "bootloader," and "modem." I'd suggest you do a bit of homework to learn the differences before you start flashing anything.
If yours is a true Developer Edition phone, you can peruse the Development section. I'm not aware of any KitKat or Lollipop ROM that is being supported, but most of those ROMS were created when you couldn't unlock a Retail Edition phone.
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Thank you for your response and concern. I have been flashing roms and items for nearly 6 years. I accidentially late last night flashed a bootloader when I was trying to flash a modem. I made a mistake. On the safestrap Verizon Note 3 N900V we often changed modems because some thought they saw better reception (placebo?) and they all worked even with the latest roms. Sometimes partial firmware flashes combines two of these items.
Mine is not an original developer edition. I take your's is. I will take your advice and peruse the development area. Even if unsupported it seems that some of the kitkat roms may have been the most stable. Just had an interaction from another person with a dev edition on that.
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Thank you for your response and concern. I have been flashing roms and items for nearly 6 years. I accidentially late last night flashed a bootloader when I was trying to flash a modem. I made a mistake. On the safestrap Verizon Note 3 N900V we often changed modems because some thought they saw better reception (placebo?) and they all worked even with the latest roms. Sometimes partial firmware flashes combines two of these items.
Mine is not an original developer edition. I take your's is. I will take your advice and peruse the development area. Even if unsupported it seems that some of the kitkat roms may have been the most stable. Just had an interaction from another person with a dev edition on that.
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Mine is an unlocked Retail Edition. My concern was that there are too many people here that flash stuff indiscriminately when they don't know what they're doing then think someone else can bail them out of their jam.
I've been on two HTC phones and the S4 and none of them required goofing with bootloaders. The Note 4 is unique in my experience because there's a bootloader for each edition of Android. I'm not a developer but I suspect that is part of Samsung's effort to lock the thing down.
My experience with the rooted Note 4 is from Lollipop up. I can't help you with regards to your desire to flash KitKat. I don't know if you'll need a KitKat bootloader or not. Almost all of the "old timers" are gone to greener pastures. You can still dig around that subforum. You can also go here, but you'll be on your own getting carrier data and perhaps wifi to work.
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cleopete said:
Been perusing the forums and I've seen a few anecdotal opinions on using one or the other, but not enough to catch a trend. Have we arrived at a consensus?
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My problem with PD1 was that I could only get bluetooth to work up to a distance of about five feet or so. PF3 seemed to fix that. Otherwise, I've noticed no other difference.
douger1957 said:
Mine is an unlocked Retail Edition. My concern was that there are too many people here that flash stuff indiscriminately when they don't know what they're doing then think someone else can bail them out of their jam.
I've been on two HTC phones and the S4 and none of them required goofing with bootloaders. The Note 4 is unique in my experience because there's a bootloader for each edition of Android. I'm not a developer but I suspect that is part of Samsung's effort to lock the thing down.
My experience with the rooted Note 4 is from Lollipop up. I can't help you with regards to your desire to flash KitKat. I don't know if you'll need a KitKat bootloader or not. Almost all of the "old timers" are gone to greener pastures. You can still dig around that subforum. You can also go here, but you'll be on your own getting carrier data and perhaps wifi to work.
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My problem with PD1 was that I could only get bluetooth to work up to a distance of about five feet or so. PF3 seemed to fix that. Otherwise, I've noticed no other difference.
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Yes Samsung is different and I have the retail like you. I've rooted rommed and kernel Droid, three HTCs, the Note 3, and now the Note 4.
I agree that people need to be careful.
I have successfully re unlocked the bootloader, and I have flashed a kitkat rom. Before or after the flash a person would need to flash the ANJ kernel and modem. Either missing will cause a boot loop. Things are working nicely. We'll see if I end up on kitkat or marshmallow. I had my Note 3 so honed with Amplify, Greenify, and the AllianceROM that marshmallow may not add that much for me.
Yes, I've looked at the snapdragon area as well. So many things to try but I just don't have the time.