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Overheating, random reboots.. out of warrenty

Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks

How old is it? In the eu the warranty is 2 years.
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Wow, good to see im not the only one. I have the same problems, and depending on the rom they get worse or better. im running CM7 now and i have little problems, but when i was running the ICS beta it happend a lot, both on and of the charger and in my pants pocket or out.
If its overheated and i take out the battery i can smell a sort of molten plastic / overheated electronics smell.

for me it was the same - main problem is motherboard.
in the end service center exchanged for me motherboard and now this problem is gone.
but before this exchange i did following:
* decreased max cpu speed to 576-768MHz (via SetCPU)
* in one of old kernels I was able to manipulate with CPU voltage level, so i was decreasing it for all freq. which was used by me.
* charging only via PC usb ports - when it was able to be fully charged and not overheat
but the proper way would be only to bring your device into service center...

I would also suggest decreasing the max speed

might be that sleep mode doesn't work entirely as it should in some roms, not making the CPU frequency drop enough when the screen is off.
And your device might be getting old and wear is starting to show.
If it's actually damaged, replacing parts may be the only solution

This is a known problem for the first devices. The solution is to change the motherboard, of course at the service center.

mephoneisjunk said:
Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks
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You need to pick a good firmware I worth Runnymede AIO V 5.0.1 Special Edition-> Base Runnymede 1.22.461.2 Official Sensation sense 3.5 Android 2.3.5 [CM7/r2] [STOCK] [AD2SDX] [A2SD] [BEATS] [RCTWEAKS] [Aroma Touch Installer]
no problems found! the same problems arise Earlier.

How did you void your warranty? Rooting or installing custom does not void hardware warranty. At least I got my pvt1 motherboard replaced even when I had rooted and used superglue to fix some broken plastic under back cover.
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Ya, the phone is just out of warrenty, it really is only 1 year in Canada.. no ifs ands or butts...
But the phone only seems to do the reboot loop when I play angry birds when the battery is low and or when I play angry birds when the phone is charging ..
I think it happend once in google street view...
in other words intense apps... that make the phone warm up and then the sensor tells the phone to restart to protect the processor from overheating, but when the phone reboots the thing is still hot so it keeps rebooting.. only solution is to take the phone battery out and let it cool..
I guess this problem could get worse but it doesn't happen with normal web browsing at this point. I might have to live with it until I find someone to replace the mainboard cheaper than HTC wants.. otherwise not worth it.
I guess lowering the CPU max might be great so it doesn't overheat in the 1st place, I will try that.
I don't really understand rom, I have 2.3 gingerbread, is there something else I can change to perhaps get a better radio signal on this puppy ?
THanks GUys

I have this problem, although until recently it only when trying to use it as satnav.
I'm glad to hear it's a known problem though.
I contacted my provider and they said perhaps the battery is getting tired and causing it to reboot due to lack of power. I pointed out that it was the other components near the sim & sd card slots that were getting hot, not the battery, so they sent me another one. I did buy another battery too and that has made no difference either. As soon as I rooted the replacement phone it started getting warm too. I'm also pretty sure that the "replacement" was a refurbed one, since the optical joystick doesn't always respond and when typing msgs sometimes the vibe feedback stops working mid-word.
It's very frustrating not being able to use it for navigation any more (although it works happily with My Tracks for recording routes).
However since I've rooted it, I don't think I'd get away with requesting another replacement phone. I've tried installing other rom's that might run cooler, but when I do they always lock at the HTC splashscreen and I have to restore nandroid backup.

Hello,
i'm new to XDA developers. Should i buy this phone? I'm thinking about it these days but i'm not sure if it is worth. Thanks for your answers.

The same Problem on my Phone! While charging i can not use my Phone.
My solution: Don't touch while charging. :-(

I think I have same problem...my Desire in regular use get worm at 35% and at 38% burns my hand...and what is wors,for 15/20 min. regular use(not havy or gaming) temp. rise from 28% to 37% but something confuse me...last night I play 3d games for an 1 hour and at 20 min. I put it on charger and continue to play games and 40 min. later temp. is 40% and stil no reboot but butom side of phone(not battery...front side (buttons and screen) and back side) is so hot that I can burn my hand on it. I put statistic that battery indicator show(time,%,temp.). So is it like that to you guys? Is your phone have that heat thing for 15 min. of regular use?
Its pic of last night 3D gaming and its all statistic of temp./ % / time...

setCPU sorted this issue for me

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setCPU sorted this issue for me
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Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?

Ahhhhh.... My gf phone having this issue.. and i think the problem is the sdcard, class 2 and use it for a2sd..
But, i tried to unroot the problems still happen, even without sdcard, the best way for me is leave this phone.. :-(
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If still in warranty, call HTC.
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timwb said:
Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?
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simply installed it, and it had it run at lowest speed on idle so it could remain cooler
(you can check the settings on it to see what it runs on idle and modify to your needs anyway)

I have similar problem like yours. I suspect the problem is come from SIM because there is no this kind issue happened IF turn to flight mode or tool out the SIM.
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LG G3 shutdown due to high temprature

PHP:
today I experienced a new issue and I want to share it to see if anyone have the same issue.
when I was using my device today a warning window came that says the device has detected a high temperature issue and will shutdown, and the device shutdowns.
I don't know if anyone had the same issue before so if anyone have please say.

Let me answer you through question... What does your pc do when it overheats?
Usually reboots or shutdown, right? It is same with phones.
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If you're not going to help, just don't say anything
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Let me clear this, there is no help for it. Or by other words, that you would understand as help:
Dont force your device so much in overheating.

@droidhd is a total asshole. Treating people like that is how he gets off.

Thank you dear. You all are so smart, but none of you gave any other advice or tip what could be wrong. That's why you need attention like this, to tag others with that speech... Good enough *sarcasm*
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Androidfreakz said:
@droidhd is a total asshole. Treating people like that is how he gets off.
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No need for name calling. Let's all calm down guys [emoji2]
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salahhuss said:
PHP:
today I experienced a new issue and I want to share it to see if anyone have the same issue.
when I was using my device today a warning window came that says the device has detected a high temperature issue and will shutdown, and the device shutdowns.
I don't know if anyone had the same issue before so if anyone have please say.
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it is normal..i left my phone in my car and it shut down due to the heat of the sun..i live in florida so it gets really hot but it is not normal for the phone to shut down if it detects a high temperate when there is not

Overheating, random reboots or shutdowns?
Yeah .
I picked up 4rd LG G3 32GB phone yesterday. All older have overheating defect (and I guess this one will made no different). Its big beast with a lot of power and there seems to be some bugs to deal with. Im sad too, I want to keep this phone and not change to another one.
Just quick test from rest of you: run Antutu benchmark like 3 times (you can restart it after 30% after CPU tests). Sometimes Im unable to make one single run of benchmark and phone shutdown itselfs. Great.
(oh, EUR edition, metal black, 1st wave)

Took my g3 on holiday with me, phone was in my pocket not used for a while. Took phone out pocket to get some holiday snaps, after taking 3 pictures with the stock camera phone over heated and shutdown. Great photo opportunity missed. Took phone back off and battery out so could cool quicker,and left to one side for 45 mins to an hour. Was an overcast day and not very warm. Put phone back together turned on, and fired up the camera. 4 pics later, warning phone over heating, will power off. What good is the camera if u can't use it, missed some good pic opportunitys. Not happy.
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Overheating has been addressed in builds 10G and later - what firmware you running?
Also did you disable Thermal protection in the hidden menu (it is billed as a way to reduce lag by some numpties on xda) - doing this will cause your phone to get hotter quicker and stay hotter for longer thus increasing the chances that it will shutdown for overheating.

Lennyuk said:
Overheating has been addressed in builds 10G and later - what firmware you running?
Also did you disable Thermal protection in the hidden menu (it is billed as a way to reduce lag by some numpties on xda) - doing this will cause your phone to get hotter quicker and stay hotter for longer thus increasing the chances that it will shutdown for overheating.
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I'm on 10j and still getting shutdowns.Not rooted and not disabled thermal protection.

Lennyuk said:
Overheating has been addressed in builds 10G and later - what firmware you running?
Also did you disable Thermal protection in the hidden menu (it is billed as a way to reduce lag by some numpties on xda) - doing this will cause your phone to get hotter quicker and stay hotter for longer thus increasing the chances that it will shutdown for overheating.
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I'm running 10g non rooted, did do the thermal trick at the time, so maybe it was that, have since disabled as noticed battery drain was a lot higher. Haven't tested camera yet though.
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Androidfreakz said:
@droidhd is a total asshole. Treating people like that is how he gets off.
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guys we are trying to help each other here there is no reason for these words

droidhd said:
Let me answer you through question... What does your pc do when it overheats?
Usually reboots or shutdown, right? It is same with phones.
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I know that this can happen in laptops but In phones this is the first time to happen to me... especially the warning message
I just wanted to check if there is anyone else had the same message...
another thing is that there are times when my lg g3 is hotter that when the message came (especially when using the phone while charging) but the message didn't came... so I don't know how is this heat shutdown thing works.

androiduser991 said:
I'm on 10j and still getting shutdowns.Not rooted and not disabled thermal protection.
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i'm in 10G version and i'm rooted and having the thermal detection off.
ohh I remembered another thing... when the phone shutdowns I was not in the visible sun so it is not something related to sun exposure... it must be something with the software

Salahhuss, can you tell us what you did with the phone that you got that message? If nothing, get yourself betterbatterystats (search on xda) and check what makes you wakelocks...
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droidhd said:
Salahhuss, can you tell us what you did with the phone that you got that message? If nothing, get yourself betterbatterystats (search on xda) and check what makes you wakelocks...
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I'm using the phone right now as this issue happened only one for me so i'll wait and see it happen again then i'll contact the supplier to check it.
In the meanwhile i'll try the program you mensioned and see the results.
Thanks for ur help ?

Seems to me that the heat sensor on the batteries often malfunctions and you get this issue. If you wrap some tape around it to keep the top plastic pushed down against the battery pack the issue might go away.

bhojo1 said:
Seems to me that the heat sensor on the batteries often malfunctions and you get this issue. If you wrap some tape around it to keep the top plastic pushed down against the battery pack the issue might go away.
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I think I am having this issue on a G3s, the phone used to work normally but lately I can't even run it long enough to get my photos off of it because within 1 or 2 minutes after turning it on it gives the temp warning and shuts down, the phone doesn't feel warm and I wasn't using any apps. I don't understand where to wrap the tape, where is the heat sensor located? I'm trying to push the battery against which side exactly?
Update:
Just having the info that it could be the heat sensor of the battery was helpful, I tried swapping the battery from another phone and the problem seems to have gone away at least for now. I was able to connect to a computer and copy over my files. Will be keeping my fingers crossed....

LG G PRO shut down intermittently

my phone shuts down intermittently, when I have it in my pocket but very seldom if i have it on the table. After did some research of setting the wifi sleep mode policy, deleted apps etc... i still have the same issue.
Hardware probably bad in my opinion.
Any solution if someone can chime in?
Thanks

Check out yout baterry. Try to replace the new.

manhktqd said:
Check out yout baterry. Try to replace the new.
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Thank u manhktqd
I did replace the battery and has been trouble free for the last few days.
My old battery was bad. I recommend anyone with the same issue to check ur battery, use ur fingers to press the middle of the battery, if it feels kinda soft then ur battery is bad, replace it with a new battery then u will not have this issue anymore.

DroidOverApple said:
Thank u manhktqd
I did replace the battery and has been trouble free for the last few days.
My old battery was bad. I recommend anyone with the same issue to check ur battery, use ur fingers to press the middle of the battery, if it feels kinda soft then ur battery is bad, replace it with a new battery then u will not have this issue anymore.
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Well I had this problem when I drop my phone from only 1'' on the table. It shut down.
I clean the battery contacts, add a little bit of dielectric grease, and it made the trick.

[Q] problem with the shutting down sm 211

Guys, please help . SM211 became randomly shut down . During charging and standby time is working properly , and during the active battery life it off. CPU-Z shows CPU temperature is constantly 80 °, but the body is cold. Tried different kernel and firmware , the result is the same. What could be the problem ?

aosaid said:
Guys, please help . SM211 became randomly shut down . During charging and standby time is working properly , and during the active battery life it off. CPU-Z shows CPU temperature is constantly 80 °, but the body is cold. Tried different kernel and firmware , the result is the same. What could be the problem ?
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Greetings aosaid, It sounds like battery problem. Can you tell me which part of the device is heating up?

If you look at the screen , the left side a little heated when I play , it has always been . The battery temperature is normal. Now charging, temperature is 29°.
I did calibrate the battery . The charge keeps well .

If you are rooted, you can download cpu control app to decrease the cpu frequency. See if its working.

Yes, rooted. I limited the CPU frequency up to 1 GHz, it has not helped

Try the following link:
http://androidforums.com/threads/guide-over-heating-fix-working.767904/
http://supportz.com/prevent-your-android-device-from-overheating/

Thanks for the info. But it does not help. The fact that any program displays temperature of processor 80°, always, it is not changed. No matter what I play or tablet is just lying on the table with a minimum of running applications. Even when during the game heats processor that is felt on the case, cpu temperature shows 80 °. It seems that the temperature sensor is not working properly. And the battery is always normal temperature, and shows adequate. I'm not sure that the temperature does matter at all. Yesterday the whole evening I run different applications, played a lot, the tablet never turned off. I want to check there is a dependence on the Connect to the network, wi-fi or 3G.

sounds right, sometime sensor might fail.

Forget about the temperature . I noticed exactly convinced that it is switched off only when I use the data transfer via 3G. When I connected to wi-fi, everything works fine and without chrarging.
sorry for my English, I'm ukrainian

Alright then,

So, nobody can't help?

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So, nobody can't help?
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I have a theory but idk if its proven. If the device got heat up and the sensor tell the system to force shutdown to prevent further damage. Thats what i have thought of. I think if you can get a new battery and see if it works.

still, I carried the phone for repair. the problem was in the connector on the battery. only. repair cost the $ 5. I thank you for your help

aosaid said:
still, I carried the phone for repair. the problem was in the connector on the battery. only. repair cost the $ 5. I thank you for your help
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haha so i was right about the battery part. congratz ffor ur problem fixed

Who would have thought that such a small thing can become a big problem.
Jacker31 said:
haha so i was right about the battery part. congratz ffor ur problem fixed
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aosaid said:
Who would have thought that such a small thing can become a big problem.
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True haha

[FIX] "screen flicker, screen freezes, and random restarts with low battery" SMT700

[FIX] "screen flicker, screen freezes, and random restarts with low battery" SMT700
When The Crashes happen: Usually the tablet will crash on Google chrome When the Battery is below 60% and around 15% it will simply crash on the lock screen.
People say the fix for this is to Re solder the battery clip or give it to Samsung to fix
Well I did find a fix But you need ROOT Access
How to fix. First you will need to get a app called Kernal Adiutor. (Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=en )
Once this is installed You will want to open it and set these values (If you find more stable values tell me and i will edit them here)
Under CPU: (Minimum Frequency: 200MHz) (Maximum Frequency : 1100MHz (Most stable) or 1900MHz (Unstable)) (CPU Governor: Power save) (multi core power saving: Aggressive)
Under I/O Scheduler: (Scheduler: fiops or zen) (Read Ahead : 4096kB)
Under Entropy: (Read: 128) (Write: 512)
Feel free to post better values in the comments
I hope this helps!
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boop

I have have the same issue but on the 705 under cpu Governor i have of those settings only ondemand, userspace and interactive...
also on i/o i only have noop, deadline or cfq.... any recomendations as to which i should use would be helpfull

I don't know about this app helping with this problem. But one thing is sure. Taking off the back cover of the tablet(cleaning the antenna contacts) and unplug/replug the battery helps. After this process the battery holds longer.
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I had this problems (random reboot, screen freeze and crazy screen flickers with bright flash bars), which occured when it had low battery (below 40%).
I removed the back cover with a guitar pick, unplugged the battery, waited a couple of minutes and put everything back together again.
Until now zero problems, longer battery than ever... So I believe in most cases there's no need to spend any money or send it to RMA.

If you are having these issues, check to see if you have "Turn off hardware overlays" enabled in developer options. If so, disable it. This worked for me and was the only difference between my current Tab S and my old Tab S before it died.
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Just have service center change your battery and check its connection.
I have it changed within 3 months after got it bcoz of said problems & everything is fine since till now....
Its been almost a year & the tab's still OK.
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If you are having these issues, check to see if you have "Turn off hardware overlays" enabled in developer options. If so, disable it. This worked for me and was the only difference between my current Tab S and my old Tab S before it died.
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what happened to your old Tab S?

Crescendo Xenomorph said:
Just have service center change your battery and check its connection.
I have it changed within 3 months after got it bcoz of said problems & everything is fine since till now....
Its been almost a year & the tab's still OK.
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what happened to your old Tab S?
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Hairline fracture in the display causing the screen to have a permanent green/yellow tint. If I grabbed the top left and bottom right corners and bent the tablet inward at the center of the display, it would go back to normal. Burn in started to become an issue as well due to the damage done. Technically it didn't die. It was just cheaper to buy a new one so I did and gave the old one to a friend.

I also had flickering and restarts. Removing the battery and plugging it back in fixed it for me.

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I also had flickering and restarts. Removing the battery and plugging it back in fixed it for me.
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Same here it got so bad I couldn't even use my tablet. I cleaned out the battery connectors with rubbing alcohol and firmly reconnected them. I used not be able to get below 20% battery without the tablet rebooting like crazy and screen getting glitchy. Today I finally was able to completely kill the battery without a single glitch or reboot.
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Crescendo Xenomorph said:
Just have service center change your battery and check its connection.
I have it changed bcoz of said problems & everything is fine since till now....
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Same here. Battery changed under warranty and now everything is fine.
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So, which metod is the best?

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So, which metod is the best?
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Unplugging and replugging in the battery for permanent fix but requires you to open the case

So just as simple as that? I´ll give it a try.

Exact same problem with my T800. Just straight death the second it hits 58%. however, turning on stock power saving mode (along the same lines as OP) did the trick for me. Not a single crash since then, with both Loli and MM. Also downloaded kernal adiutor and ran it ontop of powersaving mode to overclock\undo the horrendusly slow state. Meh sounds counterintuitive but it worked.

i tried opening the covere method it worked for me but the problem keeps returning after 3-4 months.

OK, I think I'm having a similar problem. I replaced the original battery a couple of months ago and everything was good for a while. For the last 2 weeks, I've started having a problem where the tab works ok when it's fully charged, but when it gets down somewhere below about 65%, the tablet will sometimes just turn off without a warning. When it does turn off, the only way to restart it is to briefly plug it into a power source. You only have to plug it in for a few seconds, but when you do, you can turn it on again. If you don't plug it into a power source briefly it simply won't start at all.
Once you get it started again, it will run for a few more minutes, before it again fails without warning. Once it starts doing this, the time it stays on gets shorter and shorter until you recharge it completely.
Yesterday, I got a second replacement battery to see if that would make a difference, but it behaves just like the first one. I tried unplugging and replugging the battery connector, but it seems to be firmly plugged in and doing that doesn't help.
I'm thinking that it could be firmware corruption problem, so I'm thinking that I will do a factory reset, reformat, reinstall, etc. That's a real pain and I'm not confident that will fix it. Does anybody have any thoughts or suggestions?

The original battery in my Tab S finally died after holding on for 7 years with the annoying green flickering, but fixed it temporarily by unplug and plugging it back in , changing the battery solved it , got replacement battery on February 2021 , 6 months in and the problem is slowly starting to come back , i might consider soldering and strengthening the battery connector like most other forums and answers i found so far after extensive research..