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General questions about rom's

Hey guys, another noob question. im currently on stock rom ulvh2 , im want to get a custom rom, but i can find for differet stocks like uvlg and stuff like that, the problem is that i cant find anywhere to download this stock rom e,g uvlg to flash on it the room, my question is does the custom rom comes with the stock rom already? it surely takes alot of space ~500mb (the wicked one).
Also what is the meaning of "ADT" and the word "Hybrid" i speaking about the wicked rom.
Final questions is what is the difference between the Tmobile original development thread and the tmobile development thread.
Im really trying to understand the stuff going here- not easy i have to say
thanks for the help!

modesty1 said:
Hey guys, another noob question. im currently on stock rom ulvh2 , im want to get a custom rom, but i can find for differet stocks like uvlg and stuff like that, the problem is that i cant find anywhere to download this stock rom e,g uvlg to flash on it the room, my question is does the custom rom comes with the stock rom already? it surely takes alot of space ~500mb (the wicked one).
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Custom ROMs like the ones you are talking about are stock with modifications, so yes, it is the "full" package.
Also what is the meaning of "ADT" and the word "Hybrid" i speaking about the wicked rom.
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I'm new to Android (came from BlackBerry), but hybrid means exactly what you would think. It's a cross between multiple packages. Some good things taken from each one.
Android Development Tools (ADT) is a plugin for the Eclipse IDE that is designed to give you a powerful, integrated environment in which to build Android applications.
ADT extends the capabilities of Eclipse to let you quickly set up new Android projects, create an application UI, add packages based on the Android Framework API, debug your applications using the Android SDK tools, and even export signed (or unsigned) .apk files in order to distribute your application.
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Final questions is what is the difference between the Tmobile original development thread and the tmobile development thread.
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Development: not original works. Modified stock roms, modems, etc.
Original Development: original works. CyanogenMod, MIUI, the AOKP builds, etc.

Is rooting+flashing custom rom a solution to my "prob" ?

Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..

wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.

sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..

wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.

WiredPirate said:
Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.

One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.

wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?

Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?

Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.

wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.

dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try

whitedragonz83 said:
I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus

bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.

wtr_dhd said:
Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.

Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?

I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.

wtr_dhd said:
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

[Q] Questions regarding using custom ROM's

Hi all,
I'm fairly new to all of this. Have been on XDA before, but that was a while ago.
I don't like my standard Desire HD with 2.3.5 Android anymore. And there is no update for this.
So I thought I'd look here for a custom ROM which could be nice.
However, I've been told that a custom ROM has it's downsides. But before I just blindly believe those claims, I'd like to ask you guys to tell me what the truth is.
1. I've been told that there is no custom ROM which gives you ALL and every function. You always either loose the use of the camera, or the speaker doesn't work.
2. I've also been told that you cannot go on Google Play store when using a custom ROM.
3. They said that you cannot go back to the original HTC Android after rooting and using a custom ROM.
4. In most cases, a custom ROM will improve performance (compared to the stock HTC ROM).
5. And finally: they claim that when using a custom ROM, certain apps or games won't work.
I've got no clue about these things really, but I'm am kinda interested in the whole concept of rooting. I'm good with computers and learn fast, so I do think I can learn how to do this (eventually ).
Thanks.

1. False. At the very least, stock rooted ROMs like Android Revolution HD has everything working. For other ROMs, it depends.
2. False. Flash gapps if using an AOSP-based ROM and Play Store will show up. It comes with Sense ROMs.
3. To some extent, true. If you unlock the bootloader, HTC will know, even if you relock. And if there is no RUU for your original ROM you can't revert to your exact original ROM.
4. True. Depends on ROM optimizations.
5. False. See #1.

Great, thanks for the reply.
Seems for me that if I wanna use a custom ROM, I just need to find a custom ROM that will allow me to use Google Play Store.
Just wondering: what does RUU mean?

supervinnie40 said:
Great, thanks for the reply.
Seems for me that if I wanna use a custom ROM, I just need to find a custom ROM that will allow me to use Google Play Store.
Just wondering: what does RUU mean?
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Any custom ROM will let you use the Play Store. If one doesn't include it preinstalled, it means that it's AOSP based and you just need to flash gapps. The OP of most ROM threads will have a link to the recommended version. A RUU is a region-specific executable distributed by HTC that installs and/or updates the stock ROM, bootloader, radio, and recovery.

Well, then it seems like I just have to learn what AOSP and Flash Gapps means .
Google is my friend.

supervinnie40 said:
Well, then it seems like I just have to learn what AOSP and Flash Gapps means .
Google is my friend.
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GAPPS is Google APPS. Some roms come with all the google apps bundled some dont. The ones that dont you will need to flash the Gapps.zip file straight after flashing the rom.zip file.
Start with Android Revolution v6. Its all the same as you have got now, everything works. You can try v7 which is just a sense upgrade to sense 3.5. Both have gapps included.
If you want to try something new then give jellytime r10 or unofficial CM10.1. Both need gapps downloading seperatly and is linked to in the 1st post of each thread.
Many more roms available, happy flashing
Edit: neither of the last 2 are sense roms.

Thanks for the explanation and the tips!
Am I allowed to either open a new topic where I can ask which ROM is best suited for me, OR should/can I do that in this topic?
I've been browsing the topics in the development sub-forum, and most off them look great and sound great. Just not really sure if I should look for certain things.

supervinnie40 said:
Thanks for the explanation and the tips!
Am I allowed to either open a new topic where I can ask which ROM is best suited for me, OR should/can I do that in this topic?
I've been browsing the topics in the development sub-forum, and most off them look great and sound great. Just not really sure if I should look for certain things.
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Topics like that aren't allowed by forum rules. The usual advice is to try them for yourself.

[POLL] How Many KitKat Users Are Here?

He Guys, After KitKat Released Now All I See In Xperia Arc/s Apps & Themes Section It KitKAt ROM And KK Apps ...
No One Is Modding Anything Like Old Times Or What Now? I Wonder How Many Of You Are Currenty Using KK ?
All I Know Is It's Can't Be Lighting Fast & Cool ROM... Cos Xperia Arc Has Low End Hardware How It can Run KK Smoothly?! >
When If YOu Install Latest Facebook It's Complate Lagdroid...... But It Works Cool On ICS Without Overloaded Apps + Datas & Updates...
I Just Wonder How Many KK Users Are Here or why you are using it? (I Want KK Aslo Just because to run lates KK walkman app, nothing more)

gius321 said:
He Guys, After KitKat Released Now All I See In Xperia Arc/s Apps & Themes Section It KitKAt ROM And KK Apps ...
No One Is Modding Anything Like Old Times Or What Now? I Wonder How Many Of You Are Currenty Using KK ?
All I Know Is It's Can't Be Lighting Fast & Cool ROM... Cos Xperia Arc Has Low End Hardware How It can Run KK Smoothly?! >
When If YOu Install Latest Facebook It's Complate Lagdroid...... But It Works Cool On ICS Without Overloaded Apps + Datas & Updates...
I Just Wonder How Many KK Users Are Here or why you are using it? (I Want KK Aslo Just because to run lates KK walkman app, nothing more)
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to answer some stuff quick:
-KK is a hell lot faster than ANY ics rom with & without apps on it. maybe currently its a bit sluggish but thats because ION is in ACTIVE development. but its getting better & better every update. for latest version of LX im really amazed. if you know that ''It's Can't Be Lighting Fast & Cool ROM'' you know nothing about KK experience & bro KK is even optimized for low end HW. your sentence is wrong. KK runs a lot faster & stabler than stock ICS!!!! the thing is that some drivers are not meant for KK & make some things not work superb like wifi. i have much app installed & phone still super fast. i dont use fackbook & i guess its fb fault that phone become laggy. (fb works good on ICS?? did you making jokes?? )
you should try KK instead just only talking about it. i think u have no idea (what u talking about ) also use some good rom like LX, to many half baked roms out there
- dev porting apps mostly to their systems using. mostly they use the newest.
- sony apps porting to same os KK apps port to KK is MUCH easier than to JB (very hard many code changed / missing in JB)
try KK bro & report me bak

Thanks For The Right Answer..
hi there bro... thanks for useful reply... i don't have much experience in KK roms... i will definitely try it later... so what rom do you use?
Legacy Xperia 443? >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545354
is that optimized rom? i just can't imagine how KK can be better then ICS... maybe it's really optimized for 2011 xperias...

gius321 said:
hi there bro... thanks for useful reply... i don't have much experience in KK roms... i will definitely try it later... so what rom do you use?
Legacy Xperia 443? >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2545354
is that optimized rom? i just can't imagine how KK can be better then ICS... maybe it's really optimized for 2011 xperias...
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KK (aswell as JB) is better because it uses the new 3.4 kernel. this is a power pack. ICS still rocks stoneage 2.6.2xx kernel.also its CM based which is hold close to stock android = more power for you. one of kitkats pros was project sveltje which wanted to make sure that the latest OS of android even run smooth on low end device (512 mb ram) it also benefits our devices.
personally i use latest LX 4.4.3 rom (with sony home, media apps & sliglthy sony style framework by me) because its keeped clean & its updated frequently (not abdonned after 2 builds ) but the newest versions (after 19/3 build) are all ION based & with hints . some bugs here & there, new bugs comming (because of active development) if you want just check out kitkat, use the 19/3 build as it is the last PMEM one & gives most stability in kitkat on our device.
if you just want to upgrade your rom to use it as daily driver & dont care to allways have the neewest, then use CM10.1 (also LX) will give you best mix of speed from new kernel & its the most stable of all JB roms for our devices.
just to mention in coparsion to ICS: battery will get down faster & wifi isnt perfect (i have no problems). also camera is much better on ICS. (mostly due to lack of proper drivers.)
take 2 hrs time, do a backup of current rom (recovery), the flash LX kernel ROM & gapps of choice. N# experiece yourself. im really amazed how far our phones got . in case you dont like you can just flash old kernel & restore backup (or go to stockkernel via falshing stock ICS ftf via flashtool, then install xparts, install CWM --> restore backup)
dont forget to follow LX install instruction EXACTLY good luck

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@gius321
I know you're no newbie.
It pains me to see that you've not tried out any kitkat ROMs all this while.
May I suggest a particular ROM.
C-Rom version 5.6 KitKat 4.4.2
Try it.You will like it.
Sent from my Xperia Arc using XDA Free mobile app

[Q] Now What? Lollipop or Kitkat? (ART or Xposed?)

Ok, so I got a G3 (UK SIM-free). Comes with KK 4.4.2. I've Rooted, installed recovery (with modem/EFS support and backed up everything) and customised with Xposed modules. New lollipop ROM has been released but I'm not sure I can do the things I need or want to do with Xposed on KK with the Lollipop custom ROMs currently available, like Gravitybox's expanded desktop options to remove dock or DS battery saver's tasty battery life gains..
Trouble is most of the custom ROMs that look good Android Now or Chupa Chups etc. only list Lollipop ROMs now and I can't find the last KK versions of these custom ROMs for download.
So what do I do? Do I stick with my customised 4.4.2? Do I go for a custom Lollipop ROM and risk losing the look and feel I like? Does any one know where a list of the last (most stable?) 4.4.4 KK versions of the good custom ROMs would be?

KK + Xposed for the win. Don't look back.
LP is not impressive enough for me to give up my Xposed. Running 45-50 modules (yes, 45-50) I refuse to give up my Xposed.

gandalf_grey91 said:
Ok, so I got a G3 (UK SIM-free). Comes with KK 4.4.2. I've Rooted, installed recovery (with modem/EFS support and backed up everything) and customised with Xposed modules. New lollipop ROM has been released but I'm not sure I can do the things I need or want to do with Xposed on KK with the Lollipop custom ROMs currently available, like Gravitybox's expanded desktop options to remove dock or DS battery saver's tasty battery life gains..
Trouble is most of the custom ROMs that look good Android Now or Chupa Chups etc. only list Lollipop ROMs now and I can't find the last KK versions of these custom ROMs for download.
So what do I do? Do I stick with my customised 4.4.2? Do I go for a custom Lollipop ROM and risk losing the look and feel I like? Does any one know where a list of the last (most stable?) 4.4.4 KK versions of the good custom ROMs would be?
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There aren't actually any good custom 4.4.x roms for G3. They all were prematurely terminated bc of 5.0 release.
Well, most Xposed modifications aren't doable without it. Try to live without it for a week, see what it's like.

YaDr said:
There aren't actually any good custom 4.4.x roms for G3. They all were prematurely terminated bc of 5.0 release.
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SlimKat is pretty much as good as KK is going to get for these phones. Not supported or updated anymore, but the best all-around ROM for the G3's wanting 4.4.x
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CM 11 is still supported / updated via nightlies (even if fewer and farther between updates now with CM 12 up and running)? Unless things have changed in the past couple of weeks...

LifeAsADroid said:
SlimKat is pretty much as good as KK is going to get for these phones. Not supported or updated anymore, but the best all-around ROM for the G3's wanting 4.4.x
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CM 11 is still supported / updated via nightlies (even if fewer and farther between updates now with CM 12 up and running)? Unless things have changed in the past couple of weeks...
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It is, but AFAIK there are no official builds for G3, so you'll have to compile it yourself. Plus, the device layer (HAL, etc) is incomplete, so there will be bugs.

YaDr said:
It is, but AFAIK there are no official builds for G3, so you'll have to compile it yourself. Plus, the device layer (HAL, etc) is incomplete, so there will be bugs.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...yanogenmod-11-0-nightlies-verizon-lg-t2956023
EDIT: Unknown about other carrier models. Being on VZW this is the one I was aware of.

YaDr said:
There aren't actually any good custom 4.4.x roms for G3. They all were prematurely terminated bc of 5.0 release. Well, most Xposed modifications aren't do able without it. Try to live without it for a week, see what it's like.
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Really? How good can the Lollipop ROMs be then? They really are immature.
I really need Xposed, don't like the dock, at all. Use PIE via LMT.
LifeAsADroid said:
SlimKat is pretty much as good as KK is going to get for these phones. Not supported or updated anymore, but the best all-around ROM for the G3's wanting 4.4.x Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CM 11 is still supported / updated via nightlies (even if fewer and farther between updates now with CM 12 up and running)? Unless things have changed in the past couple of weeks...
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YaDr said:
It is, but AFAIK there are no official builds for G3, so you'll have to compile it yourself. Plus, the device layer (HAL, etc) is incomplete, so there will be bugs.
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Sorry, I probably should have said I am only considering modified stock custom ROMs. I didn't buy a phone with such a good camera to lose the majority of the function.

gandalf_grey91 said:
Really? How good can the Lollipop ROMs be then? They really are immature.
I really need Xposed, don't like the dock, at all. Use PIE via LMT.
Sorry, I probably should have said I am only considering modified stock custom ROMs. I didn't buy a phone with such a good camera to lose the majority of the function.
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I never said that lolipop roms are good, i said that all G3 rom makers forgot about 4.4 and moved on to buggy future. Current 5.0 roms suck, they drain battery twice as fast, they lag, they have inferior memory management, etc...
We have to wait for good stock-based customs. At least until 20L and apktool 2.0 RC4 release. After that, we will have a good base and will be able to decompile and recompile any LG apk, which would allow for some serious mods.

Exposed until L is ironed out. The G3 camera is excellent. Xcam for me.
Don't leave home without it.

Long story short, custom ROM'S never be good as official ESPECIALLY for LG G3, you just need to understand that, for some people it's ok but for some don't. All you need is a root and MAYBE a custom kernel. PEACE.

I found lollipop is faster especially with chrome, yes, I gave up xposed but worth it

Sorry, I have been pretty dumb. So LG went from 4.4.2 to 5.0 with the G3 and there are no customised stock 4.4.4 ROMs? That being the case, I might as well stay on 4.4.2, get to debloating and sort out the annoying boot animation and sound.
Any prefered/recommended method for debloating? Anything else I should look into doing to my stock 4.4.2 ROM?