Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
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WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
WiredPirate said:
Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
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Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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I've rooted my phone plenty of times and flashed CM 10. I find myself going back to stock every time. I rooted again. So now what? Sorry for asking such an annoying question. I'm just at a loss with this. I need some direction.
What exactly is your question? If you don't know why you rooted maybe you shouldn't be rooting in the first place. You don't root just for roms, root is administrator access to the system. It allows you to access the system files usually blocked to the end user. Roms are just custom OS's chosen by the user and their tastes/preferences/requirements. You should probably do some more reading so you know what it is you're doing before you break your phone.
I like to break stuff!
betoishly said:
I've rooted my phone plenty of times and flashed CM 10. I find myself going back to stock every time. I rooted again. So now what? Sorry for asking such an annoying question. I'm just at a loss with this. I need some direction.
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if you find yourself constantly going back to stock, you should check out the custom TouchWiz ROMs. these will give you the stock experience modified for speed, power and battery savings. plus the fact that they are fully customizable.
just go to the 2 different Android development threads for this phone, you will find everything you need and more.
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For a stock feel with performance tweaks and loads of options for themes check out
The People's Rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013463 Freshly updated to 3.13 with all the bells and whistles.
Mother of All Roms- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116531 Yet another deliciously tasteful rom that is TW based, load of options. Recently updated as well.
Either of these roms you can make your way. Plenty of options to give you the look and feel you want. Support is amazing for these two as well.
+1 for milky!
Or if you don't want to over-do your phone for themed stock JB styles or AOSP.
Then try shooting for a custom kernel and optimizing it for better performance.
Or better yet, find a stock optimized kernel and it'll be all good OR BETTER THEN THAT....
Learn all about the android kitchen and build your own rom from the scratch up!
Spark91 said:
+1 for milky!
Or if you don't want to over-do your phone for themed stock JB styles or AOSP.
Then try shooting for a custom kernel and optimizing it for better performance.
Or better yet, find a stock optimized kernel and it'll be all good OR BETTER THEN THAT....
Learn all about the android kitchen and build your own rom from the scratch up!
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Both the above listed roms do have an optimized stock kernel with tweaks for optimization.
I don't root just to say "I'm a hacker" I have a decent amount of knowledge on what root access is. It is my fault for wording my question like I did. I keep going back to stock because I can't set my phone up the way I'd like. Also, for those who are developers...how do you do it? Developing seemed much more easier on Google's Nexus Line.
Ok so I've searched and read up on all these great kernals, but my brain is so boggled and confused on everything, I'm hoping 1 of u great devs can advise and or gimme your opinion on what's right for me considering what I'm looking for:
I'm running stock rooted rom 4.4.2 sense 6, twrp 2.7.1.1 verizon
Basically I'm just looking to stay as close to stock as possible while at the same time enabling wake gestures (double tap to wake) etc… I don't really mess with over/under volting at all. 1 more thing I'm looking for is the system to mount as r/w automatically on boot. (im pretty sure I read the kernel is what controls this) if anyone can guide me on which kernal is best for what I'm looking for, it would b much appreciated…
Kernels are all a matter of opinion and what works best for the end user. Try each one for a little while and find what works for you. They all should have system r/w access by default. The only one I think doesn't is the actual stock sense kernel which none of these roms use. I would suggest however that you upgrade your recovery to version 2.7.1.2 from here. http://mdmower.cmphys.com/twrp-m7vzw/
disconnecktie said:
Kernels are all a matter of opinion and what works best for the end user. Try each one for a little while and find what works for you. They all should have system r/w access by default. The only one I think doesn't is the actual stock sense kernel which none of these roms use. I would suggest however that you upgrade your recovery to version 2.7.1.2 from here. http://mdmower.cmphys.com/twrp-m7vzw/
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I was wondering about that recovery… how exactly do I upgrade it? I've never upgraded a custom recovery, I installed 2.7.1.1 with flashify… do I just do that again? N it'll just overwrite 2.7.1.1?
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I was wondering about that recovery… how exactly do I upgrade it? I've never upgraded a custom recovery, I installed 2.7.1.1 with flashify… do I just do that again? N it'll just overwrite 2.7.1.1?
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I also have TWRP Manager app, if that would work or not?
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I was wondering about that recovery… how exactly do I upgrade it? I've never upgraded a custom recovery, I installed 2.7.1.1 with flashify… do I just do that again? N it'll just overwrite 2.7.1.1?
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Yeah just use flashify.
disconnecktie said:
Kernels are all a matter of opinion and what works best for the end user. Try each one for a little while and find what works for you. They all should have system r/w access by default. The only one I think doesn't is the actual stock sense kernel which none of these roms use. I would suggest however that you upgrade your recovery to version 2.7.1.2 from here. http://mdmower.cmphys.com/twrp-m7vzw/
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For some reason when I click on the download for 2.7.1.2 it keeps just showing me a page with lots of code but won't allow me to download
Here use this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gnft7r6oqnqa4nr/twrp-2.7.1.2-m7wlv.img?dl=0
well for general public knowledge, anybody who's stock rooted and looking for a good custom kernal w/ wake gestures, I flashed Elite Lunar Kernal and it's working FLAWLESS 4 me…
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well for general public knowledge, anybody who's stock rooted and looking for a good custom kernal w/ wake gestures, I flashed Elite Lunar Kernal and it's working FLAWLESS 4 me…
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Also give the below kernel a try. It has some more bells and whistles for battery and performance optimization. I don't know if it specifically has gestures, but it does have dt2w s2w s2s in it. I get amazing battery life compared to stock kernel with absolutely no loss in performance. Post #214 that I linked has the 4.4.2 version of the kernel and is up to date with kernel.org version and security/stability fixes. (Just read the OP of the kernel threads to see if they upstreamed the kernel version patches, like that link for 4.4.2 is kernel version 3.4.99)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54997509
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If you get bored... And want yet another to try, I did post one in the stock thread a while back, just search that thread for wake gestures.
I'll wind up giving both Kangaroo and Santods a try eventually… Definitely more confident now that I've flashed roms kernals boot splash screens, recovery's, etc…
custom ROMs for HTC one V (differences, bugs, info)
Hello,
I am new to this site, and new to this thing, but I am interested to update my HTC one V with some custom ROM (jellybean or higher) and I wanna know some info about which one is the most stable and popular one, with no bugs or trivial bugs.. It is frustrating because they are plenty of ROMs and kernels here.. and what is the difference between AOSP and AOKP version? somewhere I read that aokp is less stable but better... I actually want features included RAM and CPU clocking, because this is the coolest thing in these custom ROMs.. :cyclops:
- I have HTC one V (GSM) rooted and bootloader unlocked
- I have CWM recovery 6.0.3.3 installed
- I have official android v4.0.3
so which ROM you guys prefer to me and which kernel that goes along? and is my CWM version OK or I need other one?.. I really want to get more of this phone than I am getting now.. it's a really nice phone but it's a bit lazy when operating tasks, so it's not for impatient users
I am new to this, but I somehow succeeded to root my V, thanks for detailed instructions on this site, so thanks to you guys ..now I just have to update my ROM, and I will be more than happy
Get kitkat and you'll be happy
It's really fast, mostly bug free and gets security updates...
I use lollipop personally and I like material design to much to go back.
jonas2790 said:
Get kitkat and you'll be happy
It's really fast, mostly bug free and gets security updates...
I use lollipop personally and I like material design to much to go back.
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yea, which one? can you give a lil more explanation to a noob I have so much questions in my mind.. all day reading, now I am even more confused.. so many "dev" terms I am not familiar with..
I am afraid I will kill my HOV as I am reading some reports of black sreen or won't boot... but the hell with it, I need to do it, because I have a cool ant camera which app only works with 4.1
help?
balaz23 said:
yea, which one? can you give a lil more explanation to a noob I have so much questions in my mind.. all day reading, now I am even more confused.. so many "dev" terms I am not familiar with..
I am afraid I will kill my HOV as I am reading some reports of black sreen or won't boot... but the hell with it, I need to do it, because I have a cool ant camera which app only works with 4.1
help?
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You can't (you really can't) brick your phone by installing a recovery, rom and a kernel.
It's really easy. If your still using the stock rom (rooted or not), you first have to unlock your bootloader. This is important because with a locked bootloader you can't overwrite to parts of your storage.
Just search for some guides (like this one) and only do the unlocking of the bootloader, not the rooting.
After unlocking the bootloader, flash a custom recovery (this is the newest version of TWRP, a popular recovery).
Then you reboot into the recovery and install any custom rom you like. Then you reboot into the bootloader again and flash the kernel for this rom, because the recovery can't do this.
And now you're finished. Just reboot and you'll have your new system.
If you need help with something, just use some guides here in the forum, those things have been explained thousands of times
Oh, and don't forget doing a backup of your data before. It will be deleted when installing the rom.
By the way: "rooting" means gaining root access on your system by using some vulnerability in the system. Root access is a bit like the admin user on windows, it can do everything and has no limits. But rooting only affects your current rom and is only needed in the stock rom. Most custom roms already have root access enabled.
can with only TWRP flash CyanogenMod 11? I see in the post is written that need latest TWRP to flash this ROM..
but I have already CWM recovery 6.0.3.3 installed. So shall I delete it? What is the difference between TWRP and CWM?
balaz23 said:
can with only TWRP flash CyanogenMod 11? I see in the post is written that need latest TWRP to flash this ROM..
but I have already CWM recovery 6.0.3.3 installed. So shall I delete it? What is the difference between TWRP and CWM?
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TWRP has much more features and has touch support.
Yes, you need twrp, because it's much newer and has selinux support, which is required for installing.
Install this TWRP by rebooting into bootloader and flashing with: "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" (replace recovery.img with the image you want to flash.
which kernel shall I use after installing your CM11 ROM? which you prefer is better or stable in general?
balaz23 said:
which kernel shall I use after installing your CM11 ROM? which you prefer is better or stable in general?
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There is only my kernel (included in rom-zip) and Shoaib05's kernel which isn't developed anymore. Try out which one feels faster.
jonas2790 said:
There is only my kernel (included in rom-zip) and Shoaib05's kernel which isn't developed anymore. Try out which one feels faster.
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I have used dedicated kernel in zip, it is ok without issue, pretty fast, running for a day now.
btw... I was just considering if I could push the clock of CPU a bit more.. is it possible or it's already done OCed with this kernel? ...is there some app for that maybe?
balaz23 said:
I have used dedicated kernel in zip, it is ok without issue, pretty fast, running for a day now.
btw... I was just considering if I could push the clock of CPU a bit more.. is it possible or it's already done OCed with this kernel? ...is there some app for that maybe?
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If you enable developer options you get a performance settings menu in the settings. There you see the kernel is overclocked to 1200 MHz by default, which is still ok on most devices. For my phone it's no problem to go up to 2 GHz, but 1200 MHz is enough for me.
all good, but MMS messages don't work, can't download them.
is this a bug in CM11?
Haven't ran any after market ROMS on the Nexus 5x yet but used to be a CM fan prior to the "shut down". Although I read the devs went to Lineage, just haven't done a whole lot of research on it just yet. By looking through the forums, it looks like my woes are the same as many others. I.e. poor battery life, declining performance, low sound volume ect.
Anyone have a recommendation on a decent ROM and/or MODs to start out with? Any advice would be greatly appreciated so I can get a head start on researching.
My personal suggestion to you would be to stick with the stock rom but use a custom kernel. Often when people are talking about how bad their performance is on their phone it is because their kernel isn't configured correctly.
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My personal suggestion to you would be to stick with the stock rom but use a custom kernel. Often when people are talking about how bad their performance is on their phone it is because their kernel isn't configured correctly.
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I will agree with this. I was running the stock ROM with a kernel for a long time, and it was great. I recently wiped everything and switched to Pure Nexus, but that's cuz I wanted to try F2FS.
My daily driver is PixelRom. Stable enough and looks refreshing among all custom roms that I have tried before. Its stock based, easy install all in one with bootloader and vendor, kernel franco for a bit better battery life. Swansong sound mod…
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I use stock + greenify + lucky patcher + Xposed. Seems to work ok for me so far batterywise. It's my personal opinion more mods more problems so I try to keep it simple.
compileThis said:
I use stock + greenify + lucky patcher + Xposed.
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By using Xposed, I'm assuming you're running MM?
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By using Xposed, I'm assuming you're running MM?
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Oh yeah. MM right out of the box
Pure Z Rom here 7.1.2 stock based with franco kernel
I don't find any custom rom for daily use without problem
Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
If you are happy with stock, why change it??
I use custom ROM just for ease of theming. And some shuttle customisations.
Lineage OS does not include theming, so i won't go for it. If you want to experiment, try something with OMS7 theming baked in. My daily driver is ABC ROM.
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
tobir97 said:
Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
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1st mate welcome to stock community of android, that happen when you buy a nexus(pixel now) , stock rom is perfect!! i change time to time roms, now i use stock/lockbooloader. there 2 reasons,well if you like more..... the are 2 tipes of ppl...
lets start form the basic.
1) why you pick a nexus? the most classic answer to this is.... cose i like the stock experience(true that is great) and cose is the only devices that take 1st and fastest updates for 2 years(true that too )
2) and now comes the question. sould i root my nexus? and why i do this, the phone feels great, is fast and not lag at all.
the answer to this is cose with an unlockbootloader a new world opens to custom roms,kernels,mods/apks/themes. yes the icons and feels is more or less the same... but is not the same 100%!!
so in your case think what realy you want from a custom rom before you unlock the bootloader, the reason that some times i root my nexus is 3....1)cose i like to have a tone of customaze in settings/nav bars/themes etc 2) i like the daily or weekly updates God i love the icon in notification bar when i see it LOL.. 2)and finally some better battery life with a custom kernel!!
so next time think what you want from a custom rom!!
i have test a lot of them!!
if you like customized settings etc LOS(lineage os) is not good! los is stable/daily rom with daily updates/support with some extras in settings but not big deal, is close to stock when it comes to customized!!
full customazed roms and good for daily use is DIRTY UNICORNS D.U // RESURACTION REMIX A.K.A RR // TESLA,VALIDUS ROMS // BLISS ROM // AND OFC PURE NEXUS P.N
but other roms like android ice cold project a.k.a A.I.C.P and Mokee rom is good fast or daily support updates.
p.s sry for my bad english!! i hope to help you!
crazyates said:
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
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You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
I wrote this question for my pixel last week. It's probably bc I've been flashing for a long time but it's nice when things work correctly which sometimes doesn't happen with custom ROMs. For me I've been happy with stock but with a custom kernel and root. I still use root and a customer kernel cleans up the performance but stock rom is good for me.
Javi22 said:
You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
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I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
crazyates said:
I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
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Ok ok then, I understand now haha, I might miss read no problem
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Coming from flashing ROMs and kernels on an HTC EVO, Galaxy S2, S3, and S5, it was nice to finally be on stock and not feel the need to do it anymore. I was going to after a few months but updates really improved the experience for me compared to it's original release.
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I won't buy a phone that doesn't have the ability to run custom roms. Particularly, CM / Lineage. So for example, the Pixel is out.
1. I get to choose what starts up with during boot up.
2. I get to stop unnecessary apps from running in the background. Guess what I don't want an app running if I don't have it open. Turns out my wife doesn't either for most of her apps. Do you need apps chew through mobile data or tracking your every move even though you don't have them open?
3. I block many apps from data / wifi entirely. They can't load junk like ads, phone home etc.
4. I easily block various applications from my data, as needed. A game does not need access to my contacts, etc.
5. There is still a lot of customization that can be done in the custom roms in regards to layout and such that is not in stock roms.
I realize that some of those things can be done in the stock ROM once you are rooted, or there are work around ways to do sort of do these in other ways without root, however many those are just some of the things I can list off the top of my head that you can only sort of do or only partially do in stock form.
(It's been a long time since I've run a stock ROM, so let me know if it's changed, I could be off base?)
We're not talking kernels, but once you starting tweaking the kernel, plus keep all the crap from running in the background you can get decent battery life out of this phone.