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Why install/flash custom ROM?

I had HTC HD2 and I installed Android on it, but now I have HTC DHD and android is already build in and it runs grate.
Why install/flash custom ROM?
What are pros and coins?

To name some advantages;
Full control over the phone (root)
Remove bloatware (Default apps the come shipped with the phone / carrier applications)
Themes
Overclocking / Underclocking
Get updates before your region (2.3)
Many more advantages...
Only con i can think of is you have to revert anything if you were to send it in for repairs etc.

Cons..... if you don't read and follow the directions correctly, you could brick your device.
Pros...... overclocking, backup/restore, better battery life, more customisation, access to more apps, faster updates to new android versions, debranding......
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DPxD3v said:
Only con i can think of is you have to revert anything if you were to send it in for repairs etc.
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And seems like that isn't really the case anymore. Someone (mike19xx from the forums) sent in their DHD with custom rom for repair and got it back without any problems.

Thanks for replays!
Please sugest me some good ROM. And where better save apps on SD or phone memory.
And also please recommend some apps for productivity.
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Non-sense, cyanogenmod7 all the way.
Sense, leedroid 2.2.2
Search the themes and apps threads for other stuff like add-ons.
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Android Revolution HD 3.2 or 4 (If you want gingerbread)
Although im thinking about CM7 unsure yet

It depends on your needs. On the rom threads (or even sites) you can usually find the features and you should consider yourself to think about if it's senseful for you. If you are just a "normal user" who probably doesn't need things like root access or overclocking and extra possibilities like ftp, ssh, vnc, etc. servers with full access it may not be so convincing for you. Usually you get a good speed improvement from several roms and as said newer version without branding. But also bugs you won't have in stock roms (but maybe other bugs from stock remain then ) as developing such things is never "perfect".
An important fact could be that you can only backup anything properly with root access afaik. But this should also be possible with altered stock roms.
Generally you get yourself some freedom I would say.
For the roms: You should do some nandroid backups using clockwork recovery and then simply switch by backing up, installing/restoring and then compare what you like more.

Because I can

Hell yeah
ghostofcain said:
Because I can
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Hell yeah...because we can

ghostofcain said:
Because I can
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+1
Although, if you are very happy with how your phone behaves, you might want to think again if you really want to flash a custom rom.
Pros are as mentioned in above posts. Cons: you might brick your phone.
In any case, if you root / s-off your phone, you will have a device that is enabled for the future. If HTC decides not to update your device to the latest android version, you will be able to do so yourself if a dev has cooked it to be used with DHD.
You never know if HTC will be able to fix all exploits in future OTA updates(unlikely, but still).

SPhcT said:
Thanks for replays!
Please sugest me some good ROM. And where better save apps on SD or phone memory.
And also please recommend some apps for productivity.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Android Revolution 3.2 or 4.X Beta
CM7 RC2

I believe the chances of bricking your phone is quite narrow.
I almost bricked my phone, by trying to install "FULL WIPE" via ROM Manager ( ROM manager boots into CWM and runs the ZIP and reboots it ) .
For those who dont know, FULL WIPE zip will clear out all traces of ROM on your system. Essentially, I or rather ROM Manager rebooted my phone without having any ROM installed.
But thankfully a simple battery pull was all that was needed to fix it. I was able to get back to the CWM, from where I installed the new ROM, and everything was working as "desired"

If you're happy with your current stockrom and don't mastrubate on quadrant scores to impress your co-workers or friends on birthday party......stay on stock, my 2 cents
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marleyb said:
If you're happy with your current stockrom and don't mastrubate on quadrant scores to impress your co-workers or friends on birthday party......stay on stock, my 2 cents
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Haha, that's exaggerating it a bit mate!
Not everyone who uses custom ROMs are concerned with superficial benchmark scores! Most will agree they don't relate to real life performance.
The reason I use custom ROMs are thus:
1/ Increased stability
2/ Bug fixes
3/ Increased REAL LIFE performance
4/ Superior battery life
5/ Full customisation
6/ Added features
HTC makes some great phones, but XDA Developers make then way better

CitizenLee said:
Haha, that's exaggerating it a bit mate!
Not everyone who uses custom ROMs are concerned with superficial benchmark scores! Most will agree they don't relate to real life performance.
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true, but If I read some replies here on XDA it makes you think

Humm, have you even tried a custom rom?
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yes tried ARHD (3.0, 3.1, 3.2), I went back to stock as there where all little issue's with it, that are not in stock.
I need a stable, trustworty platform, which you don't get by pressing the last juice out of the phone hardware. I think the devs do great work though, guess it is just not for all of us
Now I stop, cause this is NOT on topic anymore. Bottomline if you're happy with your phone the way it is from factory (topic starter), then there is no need to use a custom rom

I use a near stock, deodexed rom. Only thing I have gained is root and the ability to add themes, such as the funky power control widgets. I have used other roms in the past but there are from time to time issues if the rom has been modified too much.

delete thread please.

edit: nvm delete thread.

JellyBean isn't fully stable on our DHD/I4G just yet. There are always going to be some issues because HTC didn't give us a full 3.0 kernel for ICS. That could be the reason you are experiencing some lag. Kernels could also help you, try the KangBang performance kernel, although the kernel is leaning towards performance, so it could cause instability
I bought the xda app. Problem?

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I can't link to the kernel (cause I'm lazy and on the xda app). But when you install a kernel wipe your cache and Dalvik Cache and then flash. That's the proper way of flashing a kernel
I bought the xda app. Problem?

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sullyy94 said:
Hey thanks for the reply, yeah i successfully installed the stable and performance kernel from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931386
But the gaming performance still lags compared to 2.3.5. I guess its due to not being fully stable yet.
I had an idea, what if i flash the stock 2.3.5 kernel? Would i get stock performance back or not?
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You'll ruin your phone. A 2.3.X kernel I'd meant for that specific version of Android. If you mix versions (e.g. a Gingerbread kernel with a Jelly Bean ROM) you'll most likely get bootloops and your phone. At worst you'll brick your phone. Don't ever mix kernel versions. Also don't flash a Sense kernel on a AOSP/AOKP/CyanogenMod based ROM (or vice versa), you'll also have a phone that won't boot.
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sullyy94 said:
Hey, thanks for the reply. Yeah I was guessing it had something to do with the kernel. I tried a kernel yesterday not sure which one it was from memory, but when I put the kernel zip onto the phone and installed it through recovery it said install complete. But when I rebooted the phone it gets stuck on a black screen. I can't do anything else unless I take the battery out. I was wondering if anyone can give me a link to the kangbang kernel and instructions in how to install properly if the recovery mode isn't the right way, even though it said kernel updated successfuly. Thanks!
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The only compatible alternative kernel for JB is the KangBang (at least that i know of). If you flashed another one, that might be why it booted to a black screen.

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Is rooting+flashing custom rom a solution to my "prob" ?

Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..

wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.

sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..

wtr_dhd said:
What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.

WiredPirate said:
Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.

One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.

wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?

Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?

Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.

wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.

dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try

whitedragonz83 said:
I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus

bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.

wtr_dhd said:
Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.

Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?

I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.

wtr_dhd said:
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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[Q] RenovatePLUS rom help! + kernel/etc questions

Hi guys I have just flashed this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334) however it is not the renovatePLUS version, how do I flash with the PLUS version, need it since it has mods and tweaks which I will need, auto-inverted rotating screen is driving me nuts!
FYI: I downloaded the plus zip but I dont know what to do with it, do I just extract into my phone? Because that did not work.
Also, I saw this guy, username(csec) with this signature (Phone: Renovated Endeavoru, F4, XM-Kernel #296 (Most fantastic combo in my entire experience with HOX)). I want to use have those thing stated, already have Renovate(will flash PLUS once I know how), and there is F4, anyone knows what that is? and finally XM-Kernel #296, which I believe is this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731), can anyone please confirm is that is a similar one that I can use? Sorry for asking so many question, I finally decided to go deeper with flashing kernels and stuff and I require some professional advice, so please help! Thank you!

SwtVengeance said:
Hi guys I have just flashed this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334) however it is not the renovatePLUS version, how do I flash with the PLUS version, need it since it has mods and tweaks which I will need, auto-inverted rotating screen is driving me nuts!
FYI: I downloaded the plus zip but I dont know what to do with it, do I just extract into my phone? Because that did not work.
Also, I saw this guy, username(csec) with this signature (Phone: Renovated Endeavoru, F4, XM-Kernel #296 (Most fantastic combo in my entire experience with HOX)). I want to use have those thing stated, already have Renovate(will flash PLUS once I know how), and there is F4, anyone knows what that is? and finally XM-Kernel #296, which I believe is this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731), can anyone please confirm is that is a similar one that I can use? Sorry for asking so many question, I finally decided to go deeper with flashing kernels and stuff and I require some professional advice, so please help! Thank you!
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if u read the thread it will answer all ur Questions
flash the Renovate Plus through recovery <<< in the rom thread
if u want a banner with renovate check its thread
F4 stands for final 4
my advice gain some experience before flashing kernels u may brick ur device!
if u dont know what u are doing

Thanks!
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flash the Renovate Plus through recovery <<< in the rom thread
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It doesnt seem to state on that thread that I have to do it through recovery. But thanks anyway!
For kernels I have one more question. Can I just use the kernel as provided? Of course checking that it is meant for my device 1st. Because there seems to be this confusing thing called repacking...

SwtVengeance said:
It doesnt seem to state on that thread that I have to do it through recovery. But thanks anyway!
For kernels I have one more question. Can I just use the kernel as provided? Of course checking that it is meant for my device 1st. Because there seems to be this confusing thing called repacking...
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I RUINED my device before with kernels i didn't know how to use them and obviously i bricked my device so please dont try anything unless u gain experience
Repacking is like making peanut and jam sandwich its like making the kernel work with ur rom if u are using renovate u dont need to repack for XM kernels
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If there are no Ramdisc tweaks in the ROM, you don't need to repack the kernel... Mostly kernel repacking isn't needed for Sense roms... So you just have to flash the boot.img from the kernel's zip and then flash the modules from recovery...
AOSP/AOKP Roms need kernel repack each and every time before flashing!

vin4yak said:
If there are no Ramdisc tweaks in the ROM, you don't need to repack the kernel... Mostly kernel repacking isn't needed for Sense roms... So you just have to flash the boot.img from the kernel's zip and then flash the modules from recovery...
AOSP/AOKP Roms need kernel repack each and every time before flashing!
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Sense roms these days are a lot so i suggest repacking as it will not do any harm!
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Help once more!
Hi, so after researching a little bit more, I decided change my kernel to the XM kernel(original non-repacked), tried it for a few days, noticed that it response quite slowly compared to default kernel, things like slow display of lock screen upon power on, less smooth transition when. Could I have done it wrongly? Other than the slow response everything else seems fine, I noticed one of the features is S2W, I tried that on my buttons and it worked, however fast charge usb and usb mass storage isnt working, is there somewhere I can enable it or do you have an idea where I can find a guide for XM kernels that describes its features and functionality? Sorry for asking so many questions, thank you!

You have rather detailed instruction how to deal with fast charge and USB mass storage in XMister's thread (first one or two posts).
I suggest you install some of the kernel manageent applications:
- trickster MOD
- Set CPU
... There are many. Choose one that fits you (I am personally using Trickster).
There you will be able to play with your governors and scheduler, and thus achieve better performance or battery life. Or both. Check Q&A, there are few very educative threads about it.
You seem to be on a good way. Keep reading.
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Questions/opinions on best kernal for me?

Ok so I've searched and read up on all these great kernals, but my brain is so boggled and confused on everything, I'm hoping 1 of u great devs can advise and or gimme your opinion on what's right for me considering what I'm looking for:
I'm running stock rooted rom 4.4.2 sense 6, twrp 2.7.1.1 verizon
Basically I'm just looking to stay as close to stock as possible while at the same time enabling wake gestures (double tap to wake) etc… I don't really mess with over/under volting at all. 1 more thing I'm looking for is the system to mount as r/w automatically on boot. (im pretty sure I read the kernel is what controls this) if anyone can guide me on which kernal is best for what I'm looking for, it would b much appreciated…

Kernels are all a matter of opinion and what works best for the end user. Try each one for a little while and find what works for you. They all should have system r/w access by default. The only one I think doesn't is the actual stock sense kernel which none of these roms use. I would suggest however that you upgrade your recovery to version 2.7.1.2 from here. http://mdmower.cmphys.com/twrp-m7vzw/

disconnecktie said:
Kernels are all a matter of opinion and what works best for the end user. Try each one for a little while and find what works for you. They all should have system r/w access by default. The only one I think doesn't is the actual stock sense kernel which none of these roms use. I would suggest however that you upgrade your recovery to version 2.7.1.2 from here. http://mdmower.cmphys.com/twrp-m7vzw/
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I was wondering about that recovery… how exactly do I upgrade it? I've never upgraded a custom recovery, I installed 2.7.1.1 with flashify… do I just do that again? N it'll just overwrite 2.7.1.1?

bdizzle1686 said:
I was wondering about that recovery… how exactly do I upgrade it? I've never upgraded a custom recovery, I installed 2.7.1.1 with flashify… do I just do that again? N it'll just overwrite 2.7.1.1?
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I also have TWRP Manager app, if that would work or not?

bdizzle1686 said:
I was wondering about that recovery… how exactly do I upgrade it? I've never upgraded a custom recovery, I installed 2.7.1.1 with flashify… do I just do that again? N it'll just overwrite 2.7.1.1?
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Yeah just use flashify.

disconnecktie said:
Kernels are all a matter of opinion and what works best for the end user. Try each one for a little while and find what works for you. They all should have system r/w access by default. The only one I think doesn't is the actual stock sense kernel which none of these roms use. I would suggest however that you upgrade your recovery to version 2.7.1.2 from here. http://mdmower.cmphys.com/twrp-m7vzw/
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For some reason when I click on the download for 2.7.1.2 it keeps just showing me a page with lots of code but won't allow me to download

Here use this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gnft7r6oqnqa4nr/twrp-2.7.1.2-m7wlv.img?dl=0

well for general public knowledge, anybody who's stock rooted and looking for a good custom kernal w/ wake gestures, I flashed Elite Lunar Kernal and it's working FLAWLESS 4 me…

bdizzle1686 said:
well for general public knowledge, anybody who's stock rooted and looking for a good custom kernal w/ wake gestures, I flashed Elite Lunar Kernal and it's working FLAWLESS 4 me…
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Also give the below kernel a try. It has some more bells and whistles for battery and performance optimization. I don't know if it specifically has gestures, but it does have dt2w s2w s2s in it. I get amazing battery life compared to stock kernel with absolutely no loss in performance. Post #214 that I linked has the 4.4.2 version of the kernel and is up to date with kernel.org version and security/stability fixes. (Just read the OP of the kernel threads to see if they upstreamed the kernel version patches, like that link for 4.4.2 is kernel version 3.4.99)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54997509
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using XDA Free mobile app

If you get bored... And want yet another to try, I did post one in the stock thread a while back, just search that thread for wake gestures.

I'll wind up giving both Kangaroo and Santods a try eventually… Definitely more confident now that I've flashed roms kernals boot splash screens, recovery's, etc…