Hi all,
I'm fairly new to all of this. Have been on XDA before, but that was a while ago.
I don't like my standard Desire HD with 2.3.5 Android anymore. And there is no update for this.
So I thought I'd look here for a custom ROM which could be nice.
However, I've been told that a custom ROM has it's downsides. But before I just blindly believe those claims, I'd like to ask you guys to tell me what the truth is.
1. I've been told that there is no custom ROM which gives you ALL and every function. You always either loose the use of the camera, or the speaker doesn't work.
2. I've also been told that you cannot go on Google Play store when using a custom ROM.
3. They said that you cannot go back to the original HTC Android after rooting and using a custom ROM.
4. In most cases, a custom ROM will improve performance (compared to the stock HTC ROM).
5. And finally: they claim that when using a custom ROM, certain apps or games won't work.
I've got no clue about these things really, but I'm am kinda interested in the whole concept of rooting. I'm good with computers and learn fast, so I do think I can learn how to do this (eventually ).
Thanks.
1. False. At the very least, stock rooted ROMs like Android Revolution HD has everything working. For other ROMs, it depends.
2. False. Flash gapps if using an AOSP-based ROM and Play Store will show up. It comes with Sense ROMs.
3. To some extent, true. If you unlock the bootloader, HTC will know, even if you relock. And if there is no RUU for your original ROM you can't revert to your exact original ROM.
4. True. Depends on ROM optimizations.
5. False. See #1.
Great, thanks for the reply.
Seems for me that if I wanna use a custom ROM, I just need to find a custom ROM that will allow me to use Google Play Store.
Just wondering: what does RUU mean?
supervinnie40 said:
Great, thanks for the reply.
Seems for me that if I wanna use a custom ROM, I just need to find a custom ROM that will allow me to use Google Play Store.
Just wondering: what does RUU mean?
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Any custom ROM will let you use the Play Store. If one doesn't include it preinstalled, it means that it's AOSP based and you just need to flash gapps. The OP of most ROM threads will have a link to the recommended version. A RUU is a region-specific executable distributed by HTC that installs and/or updates the stock ROM, bootloader, radio, and recovery.
Well, then it seems like I just have to learn what AOSP and Flash Gapps means .
Google is my friend.
supervinnie40 said:
Well, then it seems like I just have to learn what AOSP and Flash Gapps means .
Google is my friend.
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GAPPS is Google APPS. Some roms come with all the google apps bundled some dont. The ones that dont you will need to flash the Gapps.zip file straight after flashing the rom.zip file.
Start with Android Revolution v6. Its all the same as you have got now, everything works. You can try v7 which is just a sense upgrade to sense 3.5. Both have gapps included.
If you want to try something new then give jellytime r10 or unofficial CM10.1. Both need gapps downloading seperatly and is linked to in the 1st post of each thread.
Many more roms available, happy flashing
Edit: neither of the last 2 are sense roms.
Thanks for the explanation and the tips!
Am I allowed to either open a new topic where I can ask which ROM is best suited for me, OR should/can I do that in this topic?
I've been browsing the topics in the development sub-forum, and most off them look great and sound great. Just not really sure if I should look for certain things.
supervinnie40 said:
Thanks for the explanation and the tips!
Am I allowed to either open a new topic where I can ask which ROM is best suited for me, OR should/can I do that in this topic?
I've been browsing the topics in the development sub-forum, and most off them look great and sound great. Just not really sure if I should look for certain things.
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Topics like that aren't allowed by forum rules. The usual advice is to try them for yourself.
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Hello Guys,
I wanted to take a moment of your times to ask a very simple question. I have done a lot of reading here, but there is just simply too much information here to be 100% certain about things. So, I wanted to avail your expert knowledge to find out the best Root Method and best ROM for my needs. I will list them below, so that you guys may make some advice to me:
Root Requirements:
I am looking for a full Root (NAND included) on Android 2.2, along with Recovery to flash custom ROMs. I will be interested in backing up as well, more specifically NAND backup, however, I do not know much about its full use or how to do it and what it restores and etc.
Information (what I am on right now):
Firmware version: 2.1
Build number: 1.47.651.1 CL195459 release-keys
Software number: 1.47.651.1
ROM Requirements:
I am basically looking for the LATEST, MOST STABLE, OFFICIAL ROM for Froyo with the latest HTC Updates, along with Sense. All that of course, with full-root, if possible. So the closest thing to the official update from HTC with full root access basically and minimal modifications.
Additionally desired:
Being able to delete or uninstall the apps that I don't want, and the Camera updates to beat the 30 fps limitation.
Sorry for sounding too demanding guys, but I am merely requesting for your guidance to point me in the right direction/confirm some of the things that I have read. Please treat me as an extreme Noob as well.
I thank you for all your patience and look forward to your responses. Thank you and have a nice day.
This is the wrong forum. Questions belong in the Q&A Forum.
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This is the wrong forum. Questions belong in the Q&A Forum.
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Sorry Sir. Mods, can you move this thread please? Thank you... sorry guys!
Not trying to flame or anything but search and you shall find, im pretty sure the root method you should use has root ota 1.47 in the name. Also roms are personal preferences. Once you get rooted try them all and see what you like best that's part of the fun. Good luck
Use Simpleroot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
ProFragger said:
ROM Requirements:
I am basically looking for the LATEST, MOST STABLE, OFFICIAL ROM for Froyo with the latest HTC Updates, along with Sense. All that of course, with full-root, if possible. So the closest thing to the official update from HTC with full root access basically and minimal modifications.
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Flash SteelH's rooted stock Froyo rom with Netarchy latest kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743781
Also wrong section, post in QA next time
As every one else suggests, simple root ota edition & amon ra's recovery, which is an option in simple root is a good start, as far as roms you really need to just flash a few for yourself to see which flavor you prefer, go get you something like myback up pro or titanium once your rooted, if your concerned about your apps/setup. There are several good stock roms out there to try...myself, I love me some evio, but it's all a matter of personal preference, trial & error, you gotta try out a few to see what really works for ya...
Sent from my phone.
When deciding what ROM, you can look at my sig for comparison charts of what features each ROM has. To get fps unlock you need to have a custom kernel, some ROMs have it included while others give download links to kernels that work for their ROM. Check out the chart and if you have any questions just post on my thread(also linked in my sig).
Hey guys, another noob question. im currently on stock rom ulvh2 , im want to get a custom rom, but i can find for differet stocks like uvlg and stuff like that, the problem is that i cant find anywhere to download this stock rom e,g uvlg to flash on it the room, my question is does the custom rom comes with the stock rom already? it surely takes alot of space ~500mb (the wicked one).
Also what is the meaning of "ADT" and the word "Hybrid" i speaking about the wicked rom.
Final questions is what is the difference between the Tmobile original development thread and the tmobile development thread.
Im really trying to understand the stuff going here- not easy i have to say
thanks for the help!
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Hey guys, another noob question. im currently on stock rom ulvh2 , im want to get a custom rom, but i can find for differet stocks like uvlg and stuff like that, the problem is that i cant find anywhere to download this stock rom e,g uvlg to flash on it the room, my question is does the custom rom comes with the stock rom already? it surely takes alot of space ~500mb (the wicked one).
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Custom ROMs like the ones you are talking about are stock with modifications, so yes, it is the "full" package.
Also what is the meaning of "ADT" and the word "Hybrid" i speaking about the wicked rom.
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I'm new to Android (came from BlackBerry), but hybrid means exactly what you would think. It's a cross between multiple packages. Some good things taken from each one.
Android Development Tools (ADT) is a plugin for the Eclipse IDE that is designed to give you a powerful, integrated environment in which to build Android applications.
ADT extends the capabilities of Eclipse to let you quickly set up new Android projects, create an application UI, add packages based on the Android Framework API, debug your applications using the Android SDK tools, and even export signed (or unsigned) .apk files in order to distribute your application.
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Final questions is what is the difference between the Tmobile original development thread and the tmobile development thread.
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Development: not original works. Modified stock roms, modems, etc.
Original Development: original works. CyanogenMod, MIUI, the AOKP builds, etc.
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
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Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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Hi guys, I am a BASIC android user with BASIC phone needs. Unfortunately I own a HTC Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and the very crapy HTC Sense 2.1 thats keeps on slowing down the phone and mostly rendering it beyond the point of regular usage.
I want the cleanest possible, fully functioning Android version available, like on Nexus phones. Just a plain, simple, clean and basic Android version. No need for overclocking, Sense crap, MIUI interfaces or other spectaculair may-work-may-not-work-brick-my-phone stuff, just a simple working smartphone, you can call with, send text messages with, Viber, Skype or Whatsapp with. You know, kinda like old people do with the phone
So 2 questions:
1. Which version would you guys recommend as being the cleanest one available on the forum?
2. How on earth do I get there? I have basic/bit advanced knowledge about rooting phones, Kernels, radio versions, etc, but this HTC phone is beyond me. Should I first root it, then CID Unlock/ s-Off it, do I first have to downgrade it to Froyo, etc etc etc. I know the easiest answer is RTFM, or use the search function on this forum first, but with my basic knowledge I cant seem to figure it out with the tons and tons of information thats out there on the forum.
So please, a few pointers, short first-this-then-that guidelines, and I'm sure I will get there.
Have a great weekend, DaMO
First of all, you're in the wrong section.
Second : The best rom without any trouble is this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
If you want more feature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Both are very stable. Very fast. No problem at all.
But I have to say, these time, most of recent roms are pretty reliable.
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
damo666 said:
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
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The deamon allow you to control overclocking, voltage, I/O, governors.
Witch you dont need, if you dont want to play with it.
i.e mimicry's already set to 1000 mhz cpu. You dont need to touch anything if you're satisfied with this cpu speed.
It's hard to find a complete guide for newbes. Back in years, I remember that I had to look at multiple thread to be sure how to root/backup/flash and make sure not to brick.
The major difference between the two (I was using Mimicry myself for the longest time, but I'm currently testing the Flinny Jellybean build) is one is Gingerbread (CM7) and the other is Ice cream sandwich. So if you're find with android OS 2.3, you will for the most part have the most compatibility with the phone's hardware (since all the drivers are avail), and will run better on the phone. But Mimicry will give you the features of ICS (4.0.x), but may lack in some areas like camera capabilities with 3rd party apps such as instagram (which is fixed in the jellybean rom I'm currently using).
But as a "basic" user, I think sticking with gingerbread will do you just fine.
I personally found this guide most useful and very easy to follow. The only problem might be that it needs adb and the respective drivers, but installing it should not be too difficult.
My favourite ROM, when it comes to speed and stability, is the "cm-7.2.0-vision.zip" found here. It might have some extras, but compared to everything else I tried (and I tried a lot), it worked like a charm.
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
fletchb said:
I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I used a mix of guides, basically the procedure was: downgrade to Froyo, unlocked and temporarly rooted (S-Off), got it permanent rooted, and then installed CM 7.2.0
Thats all
So saw a DHD come up on eBay for.. very little money.
Its already running a custom rom - Nexus 5 Experience ROM apparently, I cannot find it anywhere on XDA so I'm assuming its called something else or its on a different site.
I'm planning on installing CM on it anyway so thats no issue.
Now I have a few questions -
I've had a HTC One in the past, and from what I remember S-OFF and a certain HBOOT were a requirement, is the DHD the same? From what I can find S-OFF Isn't a requirement to install custom ROMs, but I'll need a goldcard? Is that correct?
Obviously with it being a single core clocked at 1Ghz I'm not expecting anything like the HTC One, however is it possible to get a decent overclock? I've seen a few threads with people running 1.1 - 1.2 Ghz... has anyone pushed it any higher to see what the CPU can really do?
Thats all really... should be here monday.. looking forward to having another android device to play with.
Nexus 5 Experience ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632012
Project is closed due to OP. Last time i've seen him active with Desire HD with his new project named "Gimme-A-Break". And by far the most Stable and Slimmed CM11 ROM till date. I've used all his builds and very nice dev.
Now to use Custom ROM you need to have nothing else require than rom.zip file itself and appropriate GApps. Since you received device with custom rom on it. It's practically doesn't require anything else regarding rooting or making it S-OFF.
If your hboot is unlocked(S-ON) you may still able flash custom rom on it. Just bare in mind that after every flash of rom you need to flash boot.img of that rom,which you'll find in that folder.zip, Also try looking for latest recoveries and rom of you choice.
GApps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
Due to BaNKs is out, PA GApps has taken it's place.
Overall WELCOME to never dying world of Desire HD.