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[Q] New Optimus G Phone Update- will this affect Rooting?

Sprint LG Optimus G To Get Software Update At Launch OnNovember 11th
updates include:
Intermittent freezing/locking up
Intermittent device reset during YouTube playback
No power on due to Wi-Fi crash
Sprint ID icon randomly shows as Mobile ID icon
MSL protection for ##DIAG# should be on
Reply to All in email: Device was including the sender name, outside of normal.
Hidden Menus HW version. Version was not showing accurately: “1.0″ should be “10.””
1. can anyone confirm this?
2. does anyone know if this will affect / remove rooting
3. should rooting be done before or after the update

No idea, I was wondering this myself but I went ahead and updated anyway because it kept popping up.
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I rooted my Optimus G, then applied the update. I lost root, but I simply used the same method again and I got root again np So doesn't look like it will hurt to apply it.

Barshalen said:
I rooted my Optimus G, then applied the update. I lost root, but I simply used the same method again and I got root again np So doesn't look like it will hurt to apply it.
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thats awesome, thanks for checking Barshalen !
I went and checked out the phone today, oooh man its nice. hope to order one in the next few days

Barshalen said:
I rooted my Optimus G, then applied the update. I lost root, but I simply used the same method again and I got root again np So doesn't look like it will hurt to apply it.
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What method did you use to root
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941699
Super easy to do, easiest out of any phone I've had before.
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Barshalen said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941699
Super easy to do, easiest out of any phone I've had before.
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One of the member said that there was battery drain on his phone after root. Can you confirm this?

easy peasy
super easy root *after the update*, even for a noob like me. rooting took about 10 minutes after reading the instructions. easy peasy.
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latindor17 said:
One of the member said that there was battery drain on his phone after root. Can you confirm this?
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I am getting pretty good battery life.. I rooted it right away so I can't compare before and after though.

Should I update to KK?

I'm currently on 4.3 stock rooted 0x0 flag. I'm curious about KK but heard about a HUGE flaw with apps not able to write to external sd card...Therefore rendering them practically useless.
I'm assuming I shouldn't update ota and instead flash. But what will I need? And has the sd card issue been fixed?
I'm just looking for something more stable and a little slicker. Would like to stay tw or stock/ stock debloated.
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Since you haven't pulled the trigger yet, like me, I would hold off a little longer and wait to see what 4.4.3 brings us. It is just rumored right now but it is supposed to be a bug fix release. From what I have gathered, you really aren't missing anything big by not being on KitKat. I have had the itch to go ahead an upgrade too but I am going to wait to see when 4.4.3 is likely to hit us first.

in my humble opinion....
NO!!!!!!!!​

So if I get any urges to want to change things up I should stay on 4.3?
I'm still debating breaking knox or not. I never plan to use knox and haven't decided if I plan to trade this in for jump or not. I'm loving the battery life and have no gripes but minor hiccups.
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Naturesretard said:
I'm curious about KK but heard about a HUGE flaw with apps not able to write to external sd card...Therefore rendering them practically useless.
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If you root KK, there is an SD fix. Otherwise don't.

krelvinaz said:
If you root KK, there is an SD fix. Otherwise don't.
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Why are people telling me not to then? I thought the sd issue was the only issue with KK
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A lot of people are having problems with KK. If they have rooted, the SDcard issue is not one of them since there is a fix for it. if you don' t have root, then it is a problem with no fix.
I'm one of the minority. Rooted Stock 4.42 with no real issues. Battery is fine, SDcard is fine, WiFi is good etc...

Oh so those got it pre installed have issues but those who flash while rooted are fine.
Would you say you notice any stability or noteworthy features over 4.3?
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Yes. Absolutely no problems on stock rooted KK. Flash wicked and its even better.
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Naturesretard said:
Oh so those got it pre installed have issues but those who flash while rooted are fine.
Would you say you notice any stability or noteworthy features over 4.3?
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I didn't say that.
I was rooted before on 4.43 however, keeping root was not an option when I did the update. I used Odin to flash 4.42 and re-rooted (triggered Knox), loaded the sdcard fix and loaded TWRP in the process.
I was not having any issues on 4.43 though. KK got me better battery usage and access to new software.
If you are rooted, you can apply the sdcard fix. If you are not rooted, I don't think there it's a fix for that.

krelvinaz said:
I didn't say that.
I was rooted before on 4.43 however, keeping root was not an option when I did the update. I used Odin to flash 4.42 and re-rooted (triggered Knox), loaded the sdcard fix and loaded TWRP in the process.
I was not having any issues on 4.43 though. KK got me better battery usage and access to new software.
If you are rooted, you can apply the sdcard fix. If you are not rooted, I don't think there it's a fix for that.
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Since you are still on 4.3, you can easily root using Kingo or de la vega method without triggering knox.
After that, upgrading to 4.4.2 is very easy and you still have root and warranty.
If you don't care about knox, then you can just update and use Chainfire to root 4.4.2 (knox warranty void). It is pretty simple.
I have 4.4.2, root (from my previous rooted 4.3) and warranty intact + SD fix and xposed mods. The phone is just amazing now.

Thats Like Saying Should I Buy These New BOSS rims for my car HAVING the money.
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The only issues I've heard due to the kitkat update are terrible battery life and the SD card issue. There's a flashable zip to fix the SD card issue and I believe installing the Foldermount app does some kind of fix. The battery life issue seems to be fixed after a simple factory reset, however, you'd have to root the device like others have stated. My phone runs great on KK. I'm getting awesome battery life and I have not experienced any problems whatsoever.

You can get improved battery life on 4.3 by removing bloat, and there's no need to apply a fix so you can use the sdcard normally. Is there any real improvement in 4.4.2?
Frank

After a week of hearing about the problems I just went ahead and upgraded why? Who doesn't like to have the newest? Plus there are fixes if your rooted. If not well maybe you are screwed but who wouldn't want to root? Been doing it since OG evo 4G
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Does anyone have any issues recording video with KK? I updated the just the modem (running Slimkat) and can't record videos or sometimes can't play youtube videos in HD. It's not a rom issues. Might go to stock KK and than try reinstalling everything.

chuko303 said:
After a week of hearing about the problems I just went ahead and upgraded why? Who doesn't like to have the newest? Plus there are fixes if your rooted. If not well maybe you are screwed but who wouldn't want to root? Been doing it since OG evo 4G
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Funny, me too. I still have my og Evo 4g. Have you noticed any difference in battery life compared to 4.3? I have root and knox In-tact and apparently it's easy to upgrade...but I don't want worse battery life.
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You won't have worse battery life bud. I'm pretty sure that will be rom and kernel related. Theirs like 4 to 5 kit Kat toms out their now. All good. All different, over in the international forum the rom that made me go to kitkat was XNOTE v11. Was a great rom but build international of course, hyperdrive is great one too good battery life I can't complain. Lean kernel will save the most battery
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Alright I'll have to do some digging and find a flash able rom...and finish my root by breaking knox finally and flashing a recovery.
As easy as it makes things, I'm worried to break knox. Not because of warranty. Lol I know tmo doesn't give 2 ****s about root...
My concern is when I want to sell the device, maybe retaining knox flag will help increase the price point.
This phone is a powerhouse. Easily able to last for the next few years until EoD. Throw In the obvious office features and a still working knox (albeit being able to be reset at samsung warehouses (I'd cite the info but I'm not in front of my desktop)) who wouldn't want this phone for work?
Thoughts?
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mike102871 said:
Yes. Absolutely no problems on stock rooted KK. Flash wicked and its even better.
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I did the same but I am having issues with my network sticking on the new baseband. Do you have any issues Mike ? I feel like my phone goes to 4G / 3G more then what it did before. LTE was working before I jump to KK. Also when I got phone calls before, my network would go from LTE to 4g on calls. Now it goes to 3G. What is going on ????

QHD Display and Gaming Questions

Can someone explain how this will work? are the games rendered at 2560*1440 or is it 1920*1080 scaled? or is it up to the game developers how this works?
I like the LG G3 but I'm a little concerned about the extreme resolution and how it will effect gaming performance, I'm probably worrying about nothing and Android has a way of handling this but I want to be sure.
Thanks in Advance.

Shocky2 said:
Can someone explain how this will work? are the games rendered at 2560*1440 or is it 1920*1080 scaled? or is it up to the game developers how this works?
I like the LG G3 but I'm a little concerned about the extreme resolution and how it will effect gaming performance, I'm probably worrying about nothing and Android has a way of handling this but I want to be sure.
Thanks in Advance.
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The games with 1080P Resolutions will run on 1080P resolution itself. Its like watching a 720P movie on a 1080P display. Unless they come up with the new Quad HD [xxxhdpi] trend.
Regards

Shocky2 said:
Can someone explain how this will work? are the games rendered at 2560*1440 or is it 1920*1080 scaled? or is it up to the game developers how this works?
I like the LG G3 but I'm a little concerned about the extreme resolution and how it will effect gaming performance, I'm probably worrying about nothing and Android has a way of handling this but I want to be sure.
Thanks in Advance.
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Until everything catches up. The only real qhd stuff will be the wallpapers and lg specific apps.
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Okay, so it sounds like games are upscaled somehow or the internal target resolution still remains 1080p?
How about emulators like N64 or PS, if they have no option to set resolution will they be forced to use 2560*1440 when going fullscreen?

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Whoaaa that was a horrible lag when going into the apps and scrolling, I might stay with my s5 then...ughh lags... They netted to put a 64bit processor in that... ☺
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Slicktune said:
Whoaaa that was a horrible lag when going into the apps and scrolling, I might stay with my s5 then...ughh lags... They netted to put a 64bit processor in that... ☺
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Se those markings on the bottom? Ye, pre-release test unit with pre-release software. Even the global pre-release software is smooth.

wargreymon89 said:
Se those markings on the bottom? Ye, pre-release test unit with pre-release software. Even the global pre-release software is smooth.
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Thanks for clarifying, everyday I either love the phone or I end up disliking it.. But really thanks for clearing that up, now all I need to know is if we are going to be able to install cm 11 or any aosp Roms. If you know let me know (t mobile USA)
Thanks in advance!!
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Slicktune said:
Thanks for clarifying, everyday I either love the phone or I end up disliking it.. But really thanks for clearing that up, now all I need to know is if we are going to be able to install cm 11 or any aosp Roms. If you know let me know (t mobile USA)
Thanks in advance!!
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Just give the devs some time and Im sure they will bypass the bootloader in one way or another. The phone hasnt hit the global market yet.

Slicktune said:
Thanks for clarifying, everyday I either love the phone or I end up disliking it.. But really thanks for clearing that up, now all I need to know is if we are going to be able to install cm 11 or any aosp Roms. If you know let me know (t mobile USA)
Thanks in advance!!
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They don't even have a custom recovery yet....baby steps ....dev will pick up when the us versions release
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Epix4G said:
They don't even have a custom recovery yet....baby steps ....dev will pick up when the us versions release
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Someone is offering me $500 for my s5 right now as of this moment, he Gave me a week.... Would you do it?
Thanks in advance, any feed back is appreciated... Only reason I held back is because I don't know how strong development will on g3, so I told him to give me a week.
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Slicktune said:
Someone is offering me $500 for my s5 right now as of this moment, he Gave me a week.... Would you do it?
Thanks in advance, any feed back is appreciated... Only reason I held back is because I don't know how strong development will on g3, so I told him to give me a week.
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I'd sell the lag machine and get the G3.
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J.Guido85 said:
I'd sell the lag machine and get the G3.
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Just scared they soft have root for the USA T-Mobile version... ?
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Slicktune said:
Just scared they soft have root for the USA T-Mobile version... ?
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as long as t-mo doesn't pull the stunt they did with g2 then you would be able to root g3 on t-mo
So on the g2 t-mo released there variant on 10c we had easy root access and it was easily exploitable for loki usage; fast forward about 8 months to the killer kitkat update for the g2 it took the devs exactly 6 days to figure out a workaround to use loki but 13 days total because we needed the source from lg(they slowed us down), fast forward to late April early May the ls980 finally got kitkat and autoprime(awesome dev) figured out a way to root using the stock recovery and shared it with the community and suddeny there were a lot of reports that the d801 t-mo variant was not being rooted, that there devices were being wiped and it turns out that for some reason t-mo removed access to the stock recovery, it was still there but it was only there for the factory reset option and so root was not and still is not possible on the t-mo g2 all the t-mo users need to downgrade to 4.2 root and either update to kk and hope root survives for those without supersu pro that had survival mode or downgrade to 4.2 root/custom recovery and then install a flashable 4.4 rom for there variants
so if you read my mini rant I suggest you wait until after the g3 is released on t-mo and we have more available information

Verizon SM-T807V Root?

Hi I was just wondering about the Verizon version of this tablet SM-T807. I just got this one from VZW, and I've searched everywhere to try and understand what root methods are available and it's proving to be kind of confusing. I've rooted all my phone's for the past 4-5 yrs Droid, several Samsungs, LG..and have never had to ask a question on any of the threads here...I have plenty of experience using Odin, ADB...etc and alot of other tools. But everything I find seems to be for the 800, 805, or 807 for Sprint and ATT. The Verizon rep started the lollipop upgrade before I left the store, so I hadn't been able to try the unified tool or any other possible methods since I need to downgrade to KitKat to make it all alot easier. So I guess my question is, is there any method that may work for my tab now that's running 5.0.2, and if not is there an Odin-able image for the VZW variant to flash back to stock? I just keep reading conflicting info from different places and don't wanna brick it beyond repair. Thanks for any help.
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That rep has just killed any chance you had of getting root.
There are no other root methods available for your device.

I don't think the Verizon tablet has root for KitKat either?
I started looking into this last night also since I'm considering Verizon as my next carrier.

That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the reply.

ashyx said:
That rep has just killed any chance you had of getting root.
There are no other root methods available for your device.
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is there any root to date that works, i still have a 4.4.2 and i just got the tab today.
Im going to get forced into the update sometime in the next day or so now that the tablet downloded it.
I've spend 6 hours so far trying to root this.
No luck so far.

imaverik said:
is there any root to date that works, i still have a 4.4.2 and i just got the tab today.
Im going to get forced into the update sometime in the next day or so now that the tablet downloded it.
I've spend 6 hours so far trying to root this.
No luck so far.
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Just copy the update to another folder then disable any more future updates. Updates are not compulsory.
What have you used to root, there are several options for root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3152410
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3129484
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3158198
http://androidxda.com/download-kingroot-application
There is also the desktop version of kingroot which has had some success.

None of those work
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Anyone find a method to root this tablet yet? I'm dying to get Marshmallow on here, this Samsung software sucks.
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Ephemeralness said:
Anyone find a method to root this tablet yet? I'm dying to get Marshmallow on here, this Samsung software sucks.
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Negative

Ephemeralness said:
Anyone find a method to root this tablet yet? I'm dying to get Marshmallow on here, this Samsung software sucks.
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How do you propose to flash marshmallow once you have root?:what:

ashyx said:
How do you propose to flash marshmallow once you have root?:what:
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Dunno, was taking it one step at a time.
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Ephemeralness said:
Dunno, was taking it one step at a time.
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Well when you come up with the bootloader unlocking method you'll be a hero.

I wish this could be downgraded to kitkat, the lollipop on t807v is causing problems with my touch screen and I have read a lot of comments from users facing a touchscreen problem after the upgrade. Lets pray its sooner !
Thanks

My t807v is freezing a lot too. I bought it on eBay and thought it was defective but it seems to be a widespread problem I'm going to try to take it to Verizon and ***** at them because mine freezes every 10 seconds or so. Makes it unusable.
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Any luck ? I can't find any resources to unlock this device.
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Yes people please develope root asap! I'm getting involved pretty deeply in android software development but still a little green... is there a good site that explains it a little so I could work on it myself?

Still no luck on a root for the sm-t807v??!!

beautifuldayintheozarks said:
Yes people please develope root asap! I'm getting involved pretty deeply in android software development but still a little green... is there a good site that explains it a little so I could work on it myself?
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It can't be rooted without a system exploit.

It took 2 years to exploit the verizon note 4, shouldnt be much longer on the 807V

Is there any update on this? Do we have a stock rom to downgrade to 5.5 available

5.1.1 OG5 root without tripping Knox????

Searched a little and didnt get a real answer...so im looking to do this and run a Note 5 rom.
Thanks
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tttuning said:
Searched a little and didnt get a real answer...so im looking to do this and run a Note 5 rom.
Thanks
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Not gonna happen, so either root and rom or keep Knox.

Death-Dealer said:
Not gonna happen, and aren't u already running sac's rom, u tripped Knox!
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I havent rooted yet...i want to
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Hmm ok...im on lease with phone so after 2 years i can get a new phone...so will trippong knox hurt me??
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Why do you care about tripping Knox? It doesn't do anything unless your phone is managed. Knox is good for companies that manage your phone so you can isolate company usage from personal usage. Otherwise it just sits there and does nothing. The only reason Knox complains when you root your phone is that it's no longer secure for being managed.
If you're ever in a situation where your company wants to manage your phone, just re-flash unrooted stock, and Knox will work again.
Technically, you're breaking your contract by flashing your phone, but as far as I know, nobody ever checks that at trade-in time.