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newby here been doing a lot of reading and just found out that there are two types of screen for the htc desire amoled & slcd.I'm waiting for a new desire to arrive in the next couple of days and was wondering if the new slcd screen was any better of worse than the amoled one.The reason for asking is that the desire is advertised as having an amoled screen and if its better then perhaps i should return it without opening the box as it would be not as descrided in the description of the phone.Can any tell me where to look on the box to see which type of sceen it is or is there no difference in the 2 screens worth bothering about.
Thanks in advance.
Regard Malcolm
malcolm159 said:
Hi
newby here been doing a lot of reading and just found out that there are two types of screen for the htc desire amoled & slcd.I'm waiting for a new desire to arrive in the next couple of days and was wondering if the new slcd screen was any better of worse than the amoled one.The reason for asking is that the desire is advertised as having an amoled screen and if its better then perhaps i should return it without opening the box as it would be not as descrided in the description of the phone.Can any tell me where to look on the box to see which type of sceen it is or is there no difference in the 2 screens worth bothering about.
Thanks in advance.
Regard Malcolm
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well, I don't know which one is better, but on the normal box (white and tall with a full size desire on it) it says at the back.. Specifications Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensetive screen
hope this helps! good luck!
AMOLED is way better
has better battery life
thunderbirds said:
AMOLED is way better
has better battery life
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Nope, according to what has been reported in the news and what HTC is telling everyone, the Desire now has a better battery life thanks to the new SLCD screens.
AMOLED:
+ better contrast and black levels (makes for a better looking picture)
- can't see anything on the screen when used outside or when the sun is shining on the screen
- lower battery life
SLCD:
- a little lower contrast (but still looking great and much better than standard LCD).
+ can see the screen outside in sun light.
+ better battery life.
As far as I'm concerned, a phone I can't use outside due to a useless screen is of no use to me; so I choose the SLCD over the AMOLED. Of course S-AMOLED (as found on the Samsung Galaxy S) would be the best of both worlds (great contrast and you can use it outside).
SLCD is supposed to have at least 5 times better battery life than normal LCD, I don't think AMOLED can say that.
In reality the noticeable differences between the 2 screens will be little to none, however on paper SCLD does edge it.
Here's one comparison:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-desire-with-s-lcd-screen-meets-one-with-amoled-they-go-head-to-head/
In short: The SLCD allows for better battery life and improved sunlight readability, while the AMOLED produces more vibrant colours.
Hi thanks for info mines arrived and it looks like its the s-lcd screen with whats on the box no mention of amoled ,but if the battery life is better then maybe that is the way to go if there's little to chose in the display side of the screen.Just got to diside wheather to open the box and get on with it or ship ai back as no as described ie no amoled screen.
Thanks in advance.
Regards Malcolm
Is it this simple to tell the Difference
!PANDA said:
well, I don't know which one is better, but on the normal box (white and tall with a full size desire on it) it says at the back.. Specifications Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensetive screen
hope this helps! good luck!
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Hi all.
See the below post for pictures of the differance with the screens and boxes. Also details of them.
I didnt and possibly am stuck with the Sled version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7882882&postcount=61
To bonit2,
Welcome to the site. Didnt see your post as must have been updating mine when you made yours.
Will be trying the update tomorrow so its a case of "suck it and see"
Once done will re-post on sucess/failure.
Odinbear said:
Hi, I know this sounds stupid. But can you post a copy of the back of the box showing the difference, I have included a screen shot of my (I assume) Super LED box.
Until reading this forum I was about to try the Froyo update but have seen that there are different versions for the different screens, and without this forum would have tried the *Wrong Version*.
If this version info is wrong let me know as dont want to **** the phone up.
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Hi! my first post here.
not to add more to the confusion but i have the same print in the box as yours and mine is still AMOLED display.
At first i thought it was SLCD and having nothing to compare it with, i bit the bullet and root using the one for AMOLED. no display blackout and all went well.
my guess is that the print in the box was to prepare for the roll out of the S-LCD even if there are still AMOLED display on stock.
of course you may have a real S-LCD so good luck.
I have the amoled screen and i can ALWAYS read my screen outside and very easily too.
Why do some people keep misinforming others that amoled screen is unreadable outside or in the sun ?!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Hi!
I already test both Desire with Amoled and S-LCD and forget S-LCD...If you try Amoled first you will never go back trust me.
I love Amoled. You will never see the differences if you don't use it, and forget youtube comparative videos because you will not be able to detect the real differences...
For me Amoled it's much better and if you want to save baterry just work with sync settings...Why sync gmail contacts, facebook contacts, weather... every 1 hour?
Amoled or S-Amoled but only on galaxy I think for now...
To check if my Desire is AMOLED or SLCD
!PANDA said:
well, I don't know which one is better, but on the normal box (white and tall with a full size desire on it) it says at the back.. Specifications Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensetive screen
hope this helps! good luck!
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I have checked on my Box,
specifications are :
Modèle : A8181
Affichage : Ecran tactil 3,7 pouces
there is no specification for the kind of screen AMOLED or SLCD.
any idea ?
GoodLinux said:
I have checked on my Box,
specifications are :
Modèle : A8181
Affichage : Ecran tactil 3,7 pouces
there is no specification for the kind of screen AMOLED or SLCD.
any idea ?
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If amoled is not specified in the specs it's SLCD.
about screen
the same situation, bought a phone in mediaworld and back on the box says "schermo sensibile al tocco da 3.7 polici" this means that the sensitive ekranb 3.7. diagonal. this also means that the screen SLCD?
then you can link tyknut where indicated as do root for SLCD screens?
thanks
There is an article regarding this on Engadget.
xxx.engadget.com/2010/09/13/spot-the-difference-htc-desires-slcd-versus-amoled/
Unable to post a direct link since I am new here.
Just to add to the confusion. (UK only)
BigMango said:
If amoled is not specified in the specs it's SLCD.
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I rang the freephone number for the UK and spoke to tech support.
They asked for the IMEI number and told me that I had the Amoled screen.
However my packaging "Didnt" have the amoled wording on it, and was told that the packaging had been changed before the screens had and some people had the "wrong" boxes.
So if you want to know what you have, just ring them and they will tell you.
Also if you got your phone before the middle of July it "Should be Amoled" again tech support (UK) words, cannot say for elsewhere.
Hope that clears things up. Lol..
Ah, nice Odinbear, that's some good info you got there.
Happy to help
BigMango said:
Ah, nice Odinbear, that's some good info you got there.
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Cheers, BigMango.
Sometimes its so easy to get lost in the detail of making a problem difficult that the simple answers get overlooked.
I have always found HTC tech support (UK) very helpful and believe that most of them are members of this site LOL..
If theyre not they should be.
I cracked my screen and i dont have the box...... so how would I tell without opening it up, which one I have?
Just if I have to open it up and let it sit there for 3 weeks Id forget how I would put it back together
If you got your Desire after August (I think) or September then it would be SLCD otherwise it's AMOLED.
really can't decide on which tablet to go with. I'm going crazy, have ordered and cancelled back and forth out of being undecided.
(Im buying LTE version to replace my Note 3 as my main communications device, including phonecalls and networking)
Reasons for Pro 8.4:
I do a lot of reading, so white backgrounds are handled better with the SC LCD on the Pro (brighter), also less battery consumption on lighter backgrounds (also whiter to my understanding), i don't enjoy oversaturated colors on AMOLED Screens (i set my display as professional photo profile on my Note 3, which reduces oversaturation), plus Super Clear LCD (i think it's similar to IPS?) would be superior sharpness-wise against the pentile arrangement of the S Amoled?. I don't like the gold bezel on the S much but that can be covered with a skin i plan to buy, prefer the chrome one. Slightly faster processor. Cheaper.
Reasons for S 8.4:
Newer (by a couple of months) but thinking on longevity Samsung might make the S series their baby, that means slower software updates for the Pro and maybe less longevity software wise, 3 GB Ram makes it future proof. AMOLED has a lower screen longevity, i've seen Galaxies S2/S3 in stores that looks horrendous, and well, i might not have this tablet in 2-3 years, but if i do i prefer to have it looking as good as new. Lighter.
Anyone who has owned or currently owned both can compare and give their reasons on why they chose one over the other?
I know that AMOLED has come a long way in advancements but, are the whites now closer to SC LCD? Is the bluriness from the pentile arrangement gone vs SCLCD/IPS?
Thank you!
I have a visible light strip at the top of the display... what should I do? I say to myself I don't care but it annoys me because I keep noticing it.
Here pictures, please check them out:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
That's light bleed
do you have it too? should I send it back or do all lg g4 have this?
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Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?
ruzkay said:
Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?
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That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.
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That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.
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I see thanks, I had some light bleed (I knew what it is didn't remember the english word LOL) on my N4 too but nowhere near this and it didn't seem like a solid strip more random...
Sent it back... hope I got luck with the next one, and hope Amazon is quick my current phones battery is pretty much dead...
I have recently bought an LG G4 as a budget device and I started noticing horizontal lines on the screen that look like equally distributed groups of dimmer and groups of brighter rows of pixels. At first I started thinking it was just the fact that I had a screen protector on my phone. But out of curiosity I compared my G4 , another one that has been bought about a half of a year ago and another one that was bought close after launch. Only mine has a screen protector on. I set the brightness on all three phones to maximum and noticed the one that was also bought fairly recently had the same sort of lines, however the one that was bought close to launch had ever so slightly better colors , no lines were to be found and was overall of better quality. Now I'm thinking that LG could have decreased display quality over time to make the phone cheaper and appealing to budget customers like myself. So I searched all over internet but haven't found nothing. The "lines" are actually barely noticeable and can't be picked up by a camera. I still like the phone but I would like to know if LG is producing different grades of displays for the same model over time (like revisions). Also note that all the phones tested were bought in the same country and all are the H815 model, also none of them were bought refurbished or used they were all directly bought from retailers/carriers.
Thanks for reading and please, let's discuss is this just random differences between displays or is this intentional to save money.
The original screens had problems with Screen Burn/Ghosting.
Mine suffers quite badly from it and was contemplating sending it back for repair.
LG could have changed the displays used in order solve this problem or it could quite possibly just be a stock/manufacturing thing.
Devices often change parts during their lifetime due to stock/availability issues or depending on which facility the phone was manufactured.
Mine has constant screen burns/ghosting. Motherboard has been replaced since bootloop problem. I don't want to bother send it back...
I know like the g2 had a jdi and a standard panel dont know what the diffrence was but lg did use 2 diffrent panels.
OllieD said:
The original screens had problems with Screen Burn/Ghosting.
Mine suffers quite badly from it and was contemplating sending it back for repair.
LG could have changed the displays used in order solve this problem or it could quite possibly just be a stock/manufacturing thing.
Devices often change parts during their lifetime due to stock/availability issues or depending on which facility the phone was manufactured.
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I understand that devices get different parts throughout their lifetime (for instance my previous device Xperia M2 had 2 revisions of sensors) , but I was just interested to know if there is any concrete facts of LG buying cheaper panels for the G4.
Hi there,
I just bought an S4. I have a problem with the backlight. With a black background, I see that the backlight is not homogeneous.
As I am a new user, the forum forbids me to post pictures / external link.
But there are pictures here:
For example with Chrome, when all tabs are closed :
balloy.free.fr//images/divers/S4_Bk_scr1.jpg
Or with BluOS app :
balloy.free.fr//images/divers/S4_Bk_scr2.jpg
On the other hand, I do not see the problem when the tablet displays Samsung boot screen, or that it displays videos (tested with Youtube).
Do you also have this behavior?
Thank you,
Regards
Laurent
Amoled screens do not have backlight.
Amoled displays do not have a backlight but uniformity varies between units. See:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/help/screen-uniformity-how-compare-replace-t3669657
Yours indeed seem pretty bad to me. If it bothers you, I'd try exchanging it though quality control feels like playing the lottery. However these things are too expensive to be unhappy with something as fundamental as the display.
Yeah any oled screen you have the risk of getting one that's not uniform . I don't think any are 100 percent perfectly uniform. But if it's really noticeable then I would exchange Iy
denony said:
Hi there,
I just bought an S4. I have a problem with the backlight. With a black background, I see that the backlight is not homogeneous.
As I am a new user, the forum forbids me to post pictures / external link.
But there are pictures here:
For example with Chrome, when all tabs are closed :
balloy.free.fr//images/divers/S4_Bk_scr1.jpg
Or with BluOS app :
balloy.free.fr//images/divers/S4_Bk_scr2.jpg
On the other hand, I do not see the problem when the tablet displays Samsung boot screen, or that it displays videos (tested with Youtube).
Do you also have this behavior?
Thank you,
Regards
Laurent
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That looks shagged exchange it, that seems like an lcd display, as that’s how they behave when black or dark images are displayed. It’s nasty send it back asap!
Exchanged
Hello
Thanks all for you replies.
The service technician said it was not an anomaly. I spoke a lot. He finally proceeded to the exchange. :victory:
The anomaly is less visible on the new tablet, but it is far from perfect, compared to my old Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition.
I keep it, because, expect the screen quality, it is (for me), the perfect tablet,
Regards
Denony
denony said:
Hello
Thanks all for you replies.
The service technician said it was not an anomaly. I spoke a lot. He finally proceeded to the exchange. :victory:
The anomaly is less visible on the new tablet, but it is far from perfect, compared to my old Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition.
I keep it, because, expect the screen quality, it is (for me), the perfect tablet,
Regards
Denony
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Mine isn't 100 percent perfect buts definitely not noticeable unless I really pixel peep, the screen is one of the best things about this tablet