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hi,
few days ago I dropped my desire on the ground and since then I have this camera issue - I cant focus objects that are more than 30 cm far from camera - it's all blury. in close it works very good, like it should.
all that i could figure out is - that focusing mechanism stucks at certain point and cant focus objects in far.
i wanted to ask if anyone has had similar problem?
is this camera defect repairable or should I buy new one? and are cameras for desire sold seperately anyway?
Thanks in advice.
The Camera isnt like a digital camera, there is no Optical (moving/mechanical) zoom, its all Digital Zoom, cameras are repareable and you can proably pick one up off ebay
Oddly enough when you take the picture and see it on the Phone/Computer is it blurry??
http://content6-foto.inbox.lv/albums137027374/martinzg/htc/focus.jpg
in title there is link of the example of what I get from my camera
Oddly enough it looks like tap to zoom on the keyboard, but with things in teh distance they are slightly blurred as an out of focus camera effect, oddly enough have you tried flashing the same ROM again??
Additionally you can always look at the repair option just as a safety net, ebay should have cameras (might be hard to spot to start off with though) and you can always look to the shops for repair info/advice, just dont tell them you dropped it like i did, as it appears warrenties dont cover accidental damage (damn Apple Store)
there is no changes when I take photo with flashlight - it's still blurry.
so, do you have any idea why pictures in distance is out of focus?
couldnt it be some kind of mechanical defect?
I have the exact same issue martinzg.
Will focus up close but not on anything over a foot away.
Contacted HTC this morning waiting for a reply.
I have the same problem here.. any news?
exact same problem here
old post, but I have the same issue !
Anyone a solution ?
Sander.
same problem here
Hi me and my htc desire have been together for a few months now.i love her,shes been good to me,and we are deeply in love.with one exception
the camera is pure sh^t. even my old old k850i with barely no processor and no modern os took better photos,i understand its a phone..but surely someone can mod it to be better
has any one got any ideas of how to mod etc or to get a mod
its frustrating as she is the perfect phone
Why do you say that dude?Camera's fine.Stills are really good considering its sensor is a phone's 5mpx one.Don't ask too much of it and believe me,you'll start seeing it otherwise.
You do realize that k850 was a cybershot phone with xenon flash, etc... desire's camera is not the best in the market, fortunately it's good when there is a good light and a phone can get autofocus, especially face focus... then the pictures really look good.
I know the k850i was cybershot.but in fairness my wifes iphone 3g took better pics and thats bad when an iphone can beat a htc.as iphones r ****e.
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I've been very pleased with the camera on the Desire. Sure, its no DSLR, but it captured this double rainbow just fine: flickr.com/photos/cylerparent/5154440847/
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I have to agree that the camera is very mediocre... but i've been spoiled by my Nokia N82 which took amazingly clear pics. The desire eems to have really bad autofocus and lacks lots of detail.
if you find yourself taking more photos with your phone than your compact p&s camera. you need help.
its a phone, not a camera.
flamesuit: i had the same issue with my old iphone, the camera was sooo terrible it was pointless, so i took my p&s camera much more places. the HTC cam, however, is 10x better than the iphone.
There are some reports that removing the plastic lens cover on the back increases the quality of the pictures. Look in to that some more, it might help.
Seems like there is actually a tad bit of trolling and/or stupidity with a post or two in this thread. I have found the camera on the Desire to be excellent. If you're having poor quality pictures try bumping up the sharpness and saturation by 1. It actually makes a great deal of a difference. As for the person that said the iPhone 3 takes better pictures... just get out. lol
The camera is definitely decent but not outstanding. I still keep my N82 around as some sort of point and shoot / backup phone when I want to make better pictures. I take a snap then I send it over through Bluetooth to the Desire so I can upload it to Facebook or Twitter. Slightly better than having to pop out the memory card on a phone to load it onto a card reader or turn off your phone and slap it onto the Desire.
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TheGhost1233 said:
There are some reports that removing the plastic lens cover on the back increases the quality of the pictures. Look in to that some more, it might help.
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I agree and disagree.You don't have to remove it,just clean it very very well.If it's scratched or something,THEN you might have to remove it.But yes,looking after your lens cover does make a difference.
If you want to take pictures use a camera, not a phone.
To be fair the lens plastic could be an issue and no i have a dslr but i cant exactly carry it in my pocket.hence why i asking.the desire kicks ass this im not disputing.just tweak the camera. Waiting for gingerbread now...a long wait
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I confirm a damaged lens cover seriously degrades the quality, creating a halo, a blur on photos. Easy test: take the same photo with the back cover on and off. If you see a difference, your choice to remove the lens cover. That is what I did and I am now happy again with the photos, as when the phone was new. Shame to HTC for not putting a proper glass lens cover, the only hardware fault on this phone IMO
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YEP
no worries me and my desire will remain as a couple,it is the lens cover,i removed it and took a photo and just to be sure left camera in running mode and removed cover and replaced while watching,makes 100 percent difference to the sharpness and clearness,upon inspection the lens is scratched to buggery even though ive had a silicone casing on,but it doesnt cover the lens,so oobviously the test of time has got it,that means having to replace the back cover which is fine,ebay? maybe,ill try
so yeah in conclusion cameras fine,lens cover is shot lol
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no worries me and my desire will remain as a couple,it is the lens cover,i removed it and took a photo and just to be sure left camera in running mode and removed cover and replaced while watching,makes 100 percent difference to the sharpness and clearness,upon inspection the lens is scratched to buggery even though ive had a silicone casing on,but it doesnt cover the lens,so oobviously the test of time has got it,that means having to replace the back cover which is fine,ebay? maybe,ill try
so yeah in conclusion cameras fine,lens cover is shot lol
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Well,if you know someone that makes/repairs watches you can ask if he can make a lens cover from the glass they use in watches.It doesn't get scratched and is better in any way than plastic.Other than that many people have reported that removing only the lens cover doesn't do any harm.Or you can also get a new battery cover.It's your call!
I have tried different roms/kernels what not. But i wasn't able to resolve this issue. Camera seems to be fine outdoors. But while I am taking pictures of something close, The camera doesn't focus at all. What so ever. Tried different apps/settings. I bought a unlocked phone from taiwan. It doesn't have warranty in India. So, warranty is out of question.
I am including couple of sample images. Can you guys please help me figure out whats going on?
Thank you, guys.
first of all , i love the view of from your window . I have the same issue as you , but not all the time with closed objects , also when i try to scan the qr code of airdroid it doesn't work no idea why , i have to log on to see my phone (which is fine ) , but as you said i find a focus problem at me too. Try to reset camera to default , worked for me :-??
I did that. But no result.
and another doubt, If it is a hardware issue, how come pictures are good when it is out doors?
vamsi_krishna said:
I did that. But no result.
and another doubt, If it is a hardware issue, how come pictures are good when it is out doors?
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Have you looked at the camera lens cover? Smudges and scratches can screw with focal range depending on at what focal distance the mark becomes visible to the sensor.
Smartphone and P&S cameras use exposure-based autofocus systems. As the AF drops focal distance a lens defect can begin to creep into it's focal range, distorting it's ability to gauge proper exposure and therefore focus is off.
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Have you looked at the camera lens cover? Smudges and scratches can screw with focal range depending on at what focal distance the mark becomes visible to the sensor.
Smartphone and P&S cameras use exposure-based autofocus systems. As the AF drops focal distance a lens defect can begin to creep into it's focal range, distorting it's ability to gauge proper exposure and therefore focus is off.
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I checked the camera glass. It is squeaky clean.
vamsi_krishna said:
I checked the camera glass. It is squeaky clean.
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You on Sense or AOSP?
Tigerlight said:
You on Sense or AOSP?
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Now on Viper 3.7.9
vamsi_krishna said:
Now on Viper 3.7.9
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When you pan around and stop does the camera attempt to autofocus? Or is it constantly at the same focal distance?
NO, it is not trying to autofous. Focus seems to be fixed. It is adjusting brightness though.
I found myself exactly in the same kind of situation one day. After a few experiments I realized that camera focusing mechanism is no longer working and probably because I had dropped the phone few days earlier. I can still manipulate focus between infinity or macro by tapping the phone quite hard but not too hard. It's working, because of the lens in front of the sensor can move freely. So tapping phones back moves lens away from sensor and you can shoot close ups, tapping front on the screen (just be carful) moves lens closer to sensor and you get infinity focus.
Just ordered new replacement camera. Let's see how that goes.
I hope I made any sense.
hawk728 said:
I found myself exactly in the same kind of situation one day. After a few experiments I realized that camera focusing mechanism is no longer working and probably because I had dropped the phone few days earlier. I can still manipulate focus between infinity or macro by tapping the phone quite hard but not too hard. It's working, because of the lens in front of the sensor can move freely. So tapping phones back moves lens away from sensor and you can shoot close ups, tapping front on the screen (just be carful) moves lens closer to sensor and you get infinity focus.
Just ordered new replacement camera. Let's see how that goes.
I hope I made any sense.
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Thats it. That did it. Now I can do macros.
Felling good after figuring out what is wrong. But its awful to know that I have a hardware issue. I didn't dropped the phone even once. I am taking care of it like it is a baby. I got the phone couple of weeks go. Damn. How much will the replacement cost. approximately?
vamsi_krishna said:
Thats it. That did it. Now I can do macros.
Felling good after figuring out what is wrong. But its awful to know that I have a hardware issue. I didn't dropped the phone even once. I am taking care of it like it is a baby. I got the phone couple of weeks go. Damn. How much will the replacement cost. approximately?
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Well, if it's a new phone then it should go under warranty and shop or authorized service center will probably fix it for free. In my case the phone is no longer under a warranty and I will replace camera myself. Found one in e-bay. There are quite a lot of options. Wheater those are real deals and will the camera be the model that fits remains to be seen when I get mine this week. I will deffinitely post my experience replacing the camera.
The phone is not under warranty. Will take it to local HTC service center and will enquire about the possibilities.
having the same issue on different roms
As promised here is my experience with camera replacement. Few people in this forum have have shared their experience with replacement cameras and mainly those have been not good since they got wrong camera module. It's actually quite a bit gamble, when you buy camera module from eBay, because many sellers don't actually post correct specs and you really don't know what you are getting. For example, HOX+ camera does not work correctly on HOX. Maybe some models do but you never know.
I was lucky and the module I got http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130968093640 was right one and I must say that probably my original camera was a bit faulty since day one, because I never got this kind of quality as I do now.
Word of caution though, taking HOX apart is really quite tedious and delicate job. Specially when you need to remove also the motherboard. So find and study instructions on this forum and on Youtube before you are going to attempt to do it on your own.
Hi guys,
I have this phone for 3 weeks, and I think it's a great phone but simply can't stand the fact that when I shoot in low light condictions I got that flash bleeding simply destroing picture quality.
I've used the marker trick, but after a week or so the coloring has gone away and I had to do it againg.
Guys, so frustrating you need to paint a 400£ phone once a week come on....
Will Sony do something about it, or they consider just enough they've said "You're shooting it wrong" like reportend on Talk Sony Mobile forum?
Will they just tact as if nothing has happened and fix this on Z2 Compact?
Always loved Sony for the way they are different form Samsung, Lg etc. but really disappointed this time...
Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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Hi guys,
I have this phone for 3 weeks, and I think it's a great phone but simply can't stand the fact that when I shoot in low light condictions I got that flash bleeding simply destroing picture quality.
I've used the marker trick, but after a week or so the coloring has gone away and I had to do it againg.
Guys, so frustrating you need to paint a 400£ phone once a week come on....
Will Sony do something about it, or they consider just enough they've said "You're shooting it wrong" like reportend on Talk Sony Mobile forum?
Will they just take our money and fix this on Z2 Compact?
Always loved Sony for the way they are different form Samsung, Lg etc. but really disappointed this time...
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Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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My HTC One and also a friend of mine's were replaced because of the purple tint camera issue. That was a hardware issue with the camera itself (or perhaps the assembly process) on the first batch, this unfortunately is 'just' a back problem probably due to the last minute change from glass to plastic and not the camera itself.
we can only speculate. They wont fix it with a fw update. Changing the back panels are the only thing sony could do. are they gona do it? i dont know, and i dont think so
ps: i also had to repaint it, but now its fixed. the paint stays longer on the second or third time that you paint it.
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Riyal said:
Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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i disagree. yes this bleed is a lot worse when taking a nightsky pic, or in a complete dark room, wich are things that you probably wont do. but you can also reproduce it under situation that you might come in the future where light is low, but not complete dark.
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we can only speculate. They wont fix it with a fw update. Changing the back panels are the only thing sony could do. are they gona do it? i dont know, and i dont think so
ps: i also had to repaint it, but now its fixed. the paint stays longer on the second or third time that you paint it.
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i disagree. yes this bleed is a lot worse when taking a nightsky pic, or in a complete dark room, wich are things that you probably wont do. but you can also reproduce it under situation that you might come in the future where light is low, but not complete dark.
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Yeah,i had blue tint in 2m my dark room and on potrait of guitar in dark pub so you can reproduce it quite easy(painting did the job after though)
Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
on HTC One X we have green tint when using flash , but it can be fix by a software http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36287923&postcount=1
No light bleed here but I have black.
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Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
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What color is your device mate?
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What color is your device mate?
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Same as @Arup ZR color black.
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No light bleed here but I have black.
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How is that possible that you don't have the light bleed issue? Did you make that photograph as described (i.e. of the sky at night with flash on)? When did you buy your phone (or what is its manufacturing date)?
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Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
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Actually my HTC didn't have the problem at first, it only started after the 4.3 update. Then I just waited for 4.4 in hope of a fix, obviously nothing happened so I sent it for repairs. My friend's had this issue since the beginning on 4.2.
Anyway, I think we are being a bit off topic here
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How is that possible that you don't have the light bleed issue? Did you make that photograph as described (i.e. of the sky at night with flash on)? When did you buy your phone (or what is its manufacturing date)?
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Yes will post it later but bear in mind I have it in black and also use the included leather case.
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Yes will post it later but bear in mind I have it in black and also use the included leather case.
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I also plan to buy the black one, but all users are reporting flash bleed even with that. Also, I don't think the leather case would change anything, because the light finds its way into the camera through the plastic back, which the leather case can not prevent. Just to be sure, could you try taking those photos without the leather case?
I really hope that Sony fixed this (at least quietly in the background). When did you purchase it?
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I also plan to buy the black one, but all users are reporting flash bleed even with that. Also, I don't think the leather case would change anything, because the light finds its way into the camera through the plastic back, which the leather case can not prevent. Just to be sure, could you try taking those photos without the leather case?
I really hope that Sony fixed this (at least quietly in the background). When did you purchase it?
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Few days back.
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Few days back.
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:good: So that may be really good news for all of us if you really don't have the bleed . Could you post those photos somewhen today? Thanks.
I was talking with the support about these cam and beelding problems.
The short version is: sony gives a fack about these problems. So dont except any update for that.
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:good: So that may be really good news for all of us if you really don't have the bleed . Could you post those photos somewhen today? Thanks.
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Will try........overall am very pleased with this phone and its cam, I do own a 808 and spate of SLRs so this one is competing very well with them. Only thing thats needed is RAW support and more controls in manual mode, truly lacking compared to my 808.
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I was talking with the support about these cam and beelding problems.
The short version is: sony gives a fack about these problems. So dont except any update for that.
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Or they just don't want to make it official/public, so that they don't have to replace all already sold models. (As in case of the earlier mentioned HTC issue)
other forum do said sony has an updated version of this that solve the problem few weeks back. Not sure about credibility
Hi developers,
I've been checking Xperia Z5 review and it said the camera module is the same that we have in the XA2.
Now, looking at photos taken with Z5 I have strong impression that the blur (optics imperfection...) at the edges of the photos is much smaller in Z5 taken photos than with XA2 photos. I think it can be corrected to some degree, but It's not done in XA2.
Would it be possible to try Xperia Z5 camera app to see if the XA2 photos quality improved with it ? Does anybody know maybe ?
//Marcin
Just try Snap camera app
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Just try Snap camera app
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Well ,the thing is that I've tried already quite a lot of 3rd party apps, including Snap, and the result is similar each time - photos with A LOT of noise. Like the phone would not allow 3rd party apps to denoise photos.
Or maybe there is something special about Sony XA2 software that makes 3rd party apps unable to fully utilize its potential.
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Well ,the thing is that I've tried already quite a lot of 3rd party apps, including Snap, and the result is similar each time - photos with A LOT of noise. Like the phone would not allow 3rd party apps to denoise photos.
Or maybe there is something special about Sony XA2 software that makes 3rd party apps unable to fully utilize its potential.
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Snap camera should have a setting for denosing
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Snap camera should have a setting for denosing
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Sure, it has - but it does so little change, that looks like almost no difference whether it's on or off.
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Hi developers,
I've been checking Xperia Z5 review and it said the camera module is the same that we have in the XA2.
Now, looking at photos taken with Z5 I have strong impression that the blur (optics imperfection...) at the edges of the photos is much smaller in Z5 taken photos than with XA2 photos. I think it can be corrected to some degree, but It's not done in XA2.
Would it be possible to try Xperia Z5 camera app to see if the XA2 photos quality improved with it ? Does anybody know maybe ?
//Marcin
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I have my old Z5 Premium and my girlfriend has an XA2 I'll try some pics as I have the opportunity and give you the answer.
PS: My Z5 Premium has both the camera and the back cover replaced by myself with parts from internet. Both were Sony problems but phone was imported so I bypassed warranty for not loosing money and time. Still takes nice pictures. I had so many problems with that phone, lens stains, camera black spots, jack audio fail after a while, it bent...
RIP Z5p
Sorry seems that my Z5p is not working anymore.
During night my cat dropped a pitcher with some water on the table and my Z5p was there in a layer of thin water when I found it the next morning. Because of the broken back cover the water went in, there were drops coming from inside as I tried to press the cover with my thumbs.
Now seems dry but it only vibrates and doesn't boot. Waiting for more draining.
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Sorry seems that my Z5p is not working anymore.
During night my cat dropped a pitcher with some water on the table and my Z5p was there in a layer of thin water when I found it the next morning. Because of the broken back cover the water went in, there were drops coming from inside as I tried to press the cover with my thumbs.
Now seems dry but it only vibrates and doesn't boot. Waiting for more draining.
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So sorry to hear this !
Anyway, in the meantime I got my camera module replaced under warranty at the Sony authorized service site, and now it takes much better pics, the blur is noticeable only where it can't be actually avoided (in the very distant edges of the photos)
But I have found a thread in the Sony support forum where users were discussing the blur that was a nightmare in Z5's photos. Seems like the problem was quite common. I feel like lucky winner now that I got a new, fully working camera module.
I hope your phone will wake up eventually, anyway :highfive: