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Bad Photos with stock camera? ( comparision)

I've noticed that the stock htc camera is bad for taking photos
when i had Acer liquid with acer stream camera photos quality was really good
now i'm asking: is a software issue or what? also liquid with stock camera was bad,but only changing the application,the quality was a lot better
any suggestion? which parameters do you use with desire ? ( like saturation,brightness,iso etc)
Attacched photos to see differences ( sorry aren't 100% the same but you can notice the difference)

Just to know (I have pretty the same problem).
Try to make a photo without the back cover.

mmm tried but didn't noticed difference...
you noticed difference without backcover??

Camera indeed sucks. So what other camera applications are available?
Retro Camera and FX Camera. Those are not really for replacement.

erto90 said:
mmm tried but didn't noticed difference...
you noticed difference without backcover??
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Yes, I can clearly see the difference with and without the cover. Especially when making videos but also with photos.

Would be great to port camera from other devices.. also the google camera ( source camera) is better as i saw.. is possibile to port to all roms?
the camera of acer stream is awesome with awesome settings,but don't know if will be possible to ort to desire..
You right! without back cover there is a very visible difference!
Why this and how to solve?

Here you can see the difference with and without the backcover. For me, it's because of the plastic used for the lens. It spoil out using the phone with time.
You can try to remove the plastic or replace the cover. I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)

Hurizen said:
I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)
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a friend of mine was at a clockmaker. He just drills out the plastic cover and glues a saphire-glass in, now its a scratch free and HQ camera cover. Costs are around 20 Euro including work (it lasts 10 Minutes). But you need and old-style clock-maker with its own repair-shop.

I like Vignette alot. Well worth the money, really professional-ish look & feel to it.

Hurizen said:
Here you can see the difference with and without the backcover. For me, it's because of the plastic used for the lens. It spoil out using the phone with time.
You can try to remove the plastic or replace the cover. I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)
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too difference! i think there will be a way to solve this problem,is inammissible for htc to made these things
someone has home-made solution working?

Or for 20 € I've found a battery cover replacement.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199270
But it's brown or silver . And it will get scratched in no time, like in the original one. Brian's solution is definitive.

Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)

Hurizen said:
Or for 20 € I've found a battery cover replacement.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199270
But it's brown or silver . And it will get scratched in no time, like in the original one. Brian's solution is definitive.
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aint that using the same plastic cover??
Mine aint scratched but I still notice a different without cover so replacing it with glass seems to be only option other then removing cover everytime you wanna take a pic/vid.

andycted said:
Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)
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Your pictures seem much more to what I am experiencing taking photos. Hardly(if any) difference cover on or off. I did notice there isn't a lot of color in your pictures.

Tbh, I don't think having a tiny smudge on the cover affects the quality that much as andycted demonstrated. The real limitation is that after all, its a phone camera.
Try using different camera app's with some image-enhancing effects. I recommend Vignette, try it out!

elvis56 said:
Your pictures seem much more to what I am experiencing taking photos. Hardly(if any) difference cover on or off. I did notice there isn't a lot of color in your pictures.
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I'm inside, in a very drab cloudly light coming from the window. Indeed the default settings for the camera (stock froyo) lack a bit of saturation, I forgot to set it to +1.
I remember noticying quite a lot of difference and thinking that since my protector is scratched, that was the cause. Turns out it was greasy on the outside, as well as the inside, as I remove the cover every other day to change battery
EDIT: I've added a couple of shots with +1 and +2 saturation and one where the autoflash went off

andycted said:
Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)
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For me, also your pics lacks of shaprness. You'll notice it better with hi-def images.

just bought Vignette to see, I think is great apllication and take better photos than stock camera
There are a lot of optimization and i really like it
try this out!

Hurizen said:
For me, also your pics lacks of shaprness. You'll notice it better with hi-def images.
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I didn't take the pain to change the settings, or to take great pics, it's a chair and a bottle ! it was just in order to compare lens on/off photos, in every day conditions and the difference isn't all that great. My lens is scratched too.
Stock camera is ugly to see, dodgy in some stuff, but has a ton of functionality. I can't, even remotely, be called a photographer, but I had some fun while going for a walk some minutes ago.
http://picasaweb.google.it/101504838761028525419/MarePesaroTemporale?feat=directlink
The sky was very grey and light quite dim, so I tried to play with exposure and saturation, burning the sky and pretty much everything else in the process. A couple shoots aren't bad though. Try to guess which are with and without lens cover hehe.

Bad quality camera

Hello everyone,
I have tried numerous of ROMs with or w/o sense , 2.1, 2.2 and nothing helps. On default settings my HTC Desire's camera really sux. Always blurry, with washed up colours. See attachments for picture examples. Every picture is bad, not just the ones I posted.
Images IMG_20100917_110516.jpg and 2010-09-17 12.46.51.jpg are for comparison. First is taken by my phone and the second one by my brother's i7500

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Migel0 said:
Hello everyone,
I have tried numerous of ROMs with or w/o sense , 2.1, 2.2 and nothing helps. On default settings my HTC Desire's camera really sux. Always blurry, with washed up colours. See attachments for picture examples. Every picture is bad, not just the ones I posted.
Images IMG_20100917_110516.jpg and 2010-09-17 12.46.51.jpg are for comparison. First is taken by my phone and the second one by my brother's i7500
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I noticed this problem too, and it didn't make sense considering it should be a pretty good camera. I have done some research, and found a few places which attribute the blurriness/cloudiness to scratches on the plastic in the battery cover.
Check out these:Battery Cover Differences in Picture Quality.
I have tested it myself, and it really seems to be the majority of the problem. However, I have not seen a decent solution. Simply removing the plastic cover sounds like looking for scratches directly on the lens, and I have not found any commercially available battery covers with glass camera covers.
Supposedly, you can clean the plastic with toothpaste.
Any ideas on how to improve our camera?

remove plastic from Cover
hi,
same like me. i removed the plastic lense from cover. Now autofocus is faster, and it makes good pictures.

HTC Phones have never taken good or even mediocre pictures anyway.
Sony Ericsson has always been King in the camera dept.

Bad hazy camera

Hi Guys.
What do you guys think of the photo quality? My front camera is fine but my back camera seems to have a serious problem focusing- the front actually takes clearer pics than the back. For some reason most if not all of my pics are coming out not completely focus with whitey haze to them - even the 1080 P videos are hazy. I have checked for plastic on the back several times as well as wiped off the lens. I have had just about, and I mean literally just about every superphone in the last four years and I know what a good camera looks like, this camera does not perform like it should and I thinks its not the phone but some issue that must/can be fixed.
I have read about every review of the phone and all indications are that this phone's camera should be great and rival the EVO LTE which I also have and takes gorgeous- stunningly sharp pics. This is the same on the GS3 and that is also very highly rated. It supposed to be better than the original note which I also had and its looks the complete opposite right now. Well my EVO LTE, GS2, and original Note makes this look like a pinhhole camera. It's obviously not the camera hardware as I think it might be software related or I might even possibly have a defective unit.
I googled the issue and found an interesting forum on the GS3 which seem to explain my issue to a T. The person said it was a software issue and the camera took excellent pics when using other camera apps from the playstore. I tried that and while I see an improvement, the pics still aren't remotely up to par for a camera with this pedigree. I called the Sprint store to exchange my phone but they are all sold out and I may be lucky to get one next week. I just wanted to know if no one else experienced this since I haven't heard any complaints. Thanks in advance for the feedback as this is a real bummer.

Remove the plastic on the lense?
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Is there a plastic film on the inside of the lens that wasn't taken off before assembly?
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camera really this god awful?

I'm wondering if my phone is defected or is HTC serious about this camera? This takes pictures like a phone from 2008 or prior. I'm talking blackberry pre 2010 era wtf!? Almost every picture snapped is blurry and not at all crisp. I have to switch it to manual and mess with a lot of settings to maybe get a decent shot (maybe). All m8 owners, how do you deal with this f'n thing? Everything else about the phone is near perfect then there is this deal breaker. What were they thinking?

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puma1 said:
I'm wondering if my phone is defected or is HTC serious about this camera? This takes pictures like a phone from 2008 or prior. I'm talking blackberry pre 2010 era wtf!? Almost every picture snapped is blurry and not at all crisp. I have to switch it to manual and mess with a lot of settings to maybe get a decent shot (maybe). All m8 owners, how do you deal with this f'n thing? Everything else about the phone is near perfect then there is this deal breaker. What were they thinking?
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Try downloading a 3rd party app and see if it's a physical or software issue you're having. It might help.

Tried with Google camera. Was worse. You own this phone? How are your pics?

I've very recently had a moto X and N5...and now the M8. I find the M8 blows those both away. For what I do with it anyway.
But I learnt the hard way, missing out on good pics and a video (all blurry in the dim light and all the dancing) at my daughters dance recital.... to bring my $99 Kodak and an inexpensive camcorder I recently got, anywhere I go where I fully know I want great pics and videos.
All phone cameras are pretty crap compared to cheap cameras and camcorders. That's life. ?
You'll always be disappointed at some point when you miss something important with your cheap phone camera.

KJ said:
I've very recently had a moto X and N5...and now the M8. I find the M8 blows those both away. For what I do with it anyway.
But I learnt the hard way, missing out on good pics and a video (all blurry in the dim light and all the dancing) at my daughters dance recital.... to bring my $99 Kodak and an inexpensive camcorder I recently got, anywhere I go where I fully know I want great pics and videos.
All phone cameras are pretty crap compared to cheap cameras and camcorders. That's life. ?
You'll always be disappointed at some point when you miss something important with your cheap phone camera.
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I agree. You meant the m8 blows away the moto x camera? I don't know about that but I know the nexus 5 camera was better than this by far. A little disappointed but everything else is great.

frogman22 said:
I agree. You meant the m8 blows away the moto x camera? I don't know about that but I know the nexus 5 camera was better than this by far. A little disappointed but everything else is great.
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Well, for me, I'm thoroughly impressed compared to all my past devices anyway.
But I still will never count on my phone to capture important moments. Never again.

My iPhone 5S takes much better pictures than my M8.

AUSTIN3:16 said:
My iPhone 5S takes much better pictures than my M8.
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What defines better? The M8 can take pictures in dim lighting perfect whereas they are not even viewable on other phones including the 5S.
I would rather be able to take pictures in ANY setting than print out a huge picture.
IMO, HTC is brilliant in making sure their phones are able to take a picture ANYWHERE. Other phones struggle badly in low light to point if being useless.
Also, this is the first phone I have ever had where people who take pictures for me actually comment on the quality. Don't fall for the MP gimmick/bandwagon, HTC knows what they are doing.
There is clearly something wrong with your camera if the pictures are blurry. Are you talking about flares or blur? If you removed the AR coating of the camera, then you're going to get horrible flares. HTC had the film to aid in reducing glare but people are removing it which is puzzling.

richii0207 said:
What defines better? The M8 can take pictures in dim lighting perfect whereas they are not even viewable on other phones including the 5S.
I would rather be able to take pictures in ANY setting than print out a huge picture.
IMO, HTC is brilliant in making sure their phones are able to take a picture ANYWHERE. Other phones struggle badly in low light to point if being useless.
Also, this is the first phone I have ever had where people who take pictures for me actually comment on the quality. Don't fall for the MP gimmick/bandwagon, HTC knows what they are doing.
There is clearly something wrong with your camera if the pictures are blurry. Are you talking about flares or blur? If you removed the AR coating of the camera, then you're going to get horrible flares. HTC had the film to aid in reducing glare but people are removing it which is puzzling.
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Anywhere? I am struggling to find one place or situation it does excel. All the pictures are really poor again reminds me of pics my old Bold Blackberry used to take. Low light, outside, indoors.. it's really bad. Iphone 5s and s5 are much better at taking pics anywhere, including low light compared to this phone. I been trying all night to take pics and find even a few that are more than decent. Was the HTC One like this or better?

I would suggest you remove the coating on your camera lenses and see if the pictures quality have improved.

I moved this thread to Q&A because it's really a question. Please keep the discussion focused on how to take better pictures or otherwise overcome the shortcomings of the camera. If this becomes a bash HTC or compare devices thread, I'll have to close it and I don't really like doing that.
Thanks,
coal686

scorror said:
I would suggest you remove the coating on your camera lenses and see if the pictures quality have improved.
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Do NOT do this. It removes the anti-reflective coating on it and will produce horrible glare. It seems HTC put it there to compensate for increased lighting from the UltraPixels. If its blurry, then it is certainly defective. Take a look at the camera thread in the general section to see how clear pictures are suppose to be.

i got all happy thinking there might have been a plastic peel off on it.. nope:/

puma1 said:
i got all happy thinking there might have been a plastic peel off on it.. nope:/
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Sucks that you have a defective unit. I would give HTC a call or chat via their website support.

richii0207 said:
Sucks that you have a defective unit. I would give HTC a call or chat via their website support.
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I don't think it is defective. I will keep trying a few things, I mean this is a 4 mega pixel camera, so the pictures are probably not meant to be zoomed in on or anything. I like this phone and prefer not to swap it out.

puma1 said:
I don't think it is defective. I will keep trying a few things, I mean this is a 4 mega pixel camera, so the pictures are probably not meant to be zoomed in on or anything. I like this phone and prefer not to swap it out.
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If its blurry, then it had to be defective. Pictures should be coming out like they are in the pictures thread.

richii0207 said:
Do NOT do this. It removes the anti-reflective coating on it and will produce horrible glare. It seems HTC put it there to compensate for increased lighting from the UltraPixels. If its blurry, then it is certainly defective. Take a look at the camera thread in the general section to see how clear pictures are suppose to be.
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Known and common issue, the coating starts to scratch very easily (sometimes within weeks), which horribly blurs the photos. Removing using a variety of methods (toothpaste is common) is recommended IMO. Some folks have gotten warranty repair, but others have not (think HTC cited physical wear and tear). And who is the say the new lens cover won't just do the same after a few weeks?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/how-to-fix-htc-one-m8-camera-issue-t2803825
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/how-to-fix-scratches-camera-lens-t2816807
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715784
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How are your pics?
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some truly beautiful pics by the M8 have been posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694621
Pics with the M8 are pretty sharp under a variety of light conditions. Although its pretty subjective, many will say this phone is comparable to other current devices. If you have a fundamental issue of blurry photos, look at the camera lens and see if the coating is scratched, as I've mentioned. It should be pretty obvious to see, if this is the case.

puma1 said:
I'm wondering if my phone is defected or is HTC serious about this camera? This takes pictures like a phone from 2008 or prior. I'm talking blackberry pre 2010 era wtf!? Almost every picture snapped is blurry and not at all crisp. I have to switch it to manual and mess with a lot of settings to maybe get a decent shot (maybe). All m8 owners, how do you deal with this f'n thing? Everything else about the phone is near perfect then there is this deal breaker. What were they thinking?
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Can you post up some samples, then we can help you. There are many people who love bashing HTC because of what paid reviewers have written/said about the camera.. If you always use your camera in "idiot" mode or "Auto" mode as the manufacturers call it, then your pictures will always look rubbish.
have a go at using ISO, EV, Shutter Speed and WB, they are there for a reason..look up basic photography and learn to understand light and how they work.
To me, the M8 walks over the crappy S5 camera.. then goes back for a 2nd go..

redpoint73 said:
Known and common issue, the coating starts to scratch very easily (sometimes within weeks), which horribly blurs the photos. Removing using a variety of methods (toothpaste is common) is recommended IMO. Some folks have gotten warranty repair, but others have not (think HTC cited physical wear and tear). And who is the say the new lens cover won't just do the same after a few weeks?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/how-to-fix-htc-one-m8-camera-issue-t2803825
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/how-to-fix-scratches-camera-lens-t2816807
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715784
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some truly beautiful pics by the M8 have been posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694621
If you have a fundamental issue of blurry photos, look at the camera lens and see if the coating is scratched, as I've mentioned. It should be pretty obvious to see, if this is the case.
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The coating scratches if you do not take care of it. It's as sensitive as the AR coating on glasses or camera lenses. If its scratched, then removing it is the only way. The best way to approach this is to take good care of the AR coating. Removing the coating will cause horrible flare/glare.
The AR coating is there for a reason. This is nothing new in lens manufacturing....DONT remove it.

richii0207 said:
Are you talking about flares or blur? If you removed the AR coating of the camera, then you're going to get horrible flares. HTC had the film to aid in reducing glare but people are removing it which is puzzling.
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Because a few flares under easily avoidable conditions (don't take pics directly at a light source) is greatly preferable to every picture being horribly blurred.
I held out removing the coating as long as I could (about 3 months of ownership), since I didn't like the idea of intentionally removing it with an abrasive (even a mild one). But not what I have, the image quality is greatly improved, and glare/flares are not an issue.
How would you know if the coating makes such a difference if you've never removed yours? Coating like this don't make as much a difference as you seem to think. IMO, actually little or (more likely) no difference.
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The coating scratches if you do not take care of it. It's as sensitive as the AR coating on glasses or camera lenses. If its scratched, then removing it is the only way. The best way to approach this is to take good care of the AR coating. Removing the coating will cause horrible flare/glare.
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No, it really won't.
I don't "baby" my phone. But I take pretty good care of it, and it was scratched enough to ruin picture after 3 months. I use a TPU case, that doesn't cover the camera, but the cutouts provide some protection. The phone is usually in my pocket (never anything else in that pocket) or sitting on my desk/counter.
Unless you are surgically careful with your phone, its going to happen to yours, too. Its just a matter of time.

Anyone not happy with the camera even after the update?

For some reason when I shoot videos or photos, it's blurry if I try to shoot right away. OR I have to tap on the object just to focus on it. I remember being drunk at a concert and recording some video...it took about 10 seconds of a 2 minute video just to fully focus. Even my s3, m7 and old phones never had this problem. Anyone else have this problem?

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For some reason when I shoot videos or photos, it's blurry if I try to shoot right away. OR I have to tap on the object just to focus on it. I remember being drunk at a concert and recording some video...it took about 10 seconds of a 2 minute video just to fully focus. Even my s3, m7 and old phones never had this problem. Anyone else have this problem?
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Camera isn't great, people are probably going to say you're talking rubbish. But I agree.
You can take a good pic and video but not you have to prepare it in certain cases, clean the lens etc.

Camera is just great and it keeps getting better. Make sure you don't have a faulty device or maybe clean the lens and laser auto focus.

Camera experience on mine is awful.
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Compared to my mother's iPhone 6 and my old S6E it takes better photos. I'm not doubting with a few more software updates it'll get even better. I saw that Taiwan got another update recently that reduced glare and further improved on exposure.

I'm going to be honest, the camera is terrible imo. But that's why I carry my DSLR with me if I want to take good pictures. Here is a video I took of my ride to work the other night and the lens was as clean as it could possibly be. Pictures come out the same way https://goo.gl/photos/SS7meVTv2tdA9EuX9
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In low light condition it might still have the autofocus issue, but in bright situation it's been fixed, I think.

I agree with the fact that in the right conditions it's a great camera, it can take some decent shots. But if the situation doesn't permit then it'll takes some poor ones, this has been htcs issues for a long time.

Agreed.
I had the m7 and m8 and so I was used to tinkering with touching the screen to find the perfect focus spot and waiting and taking lots of shots hoping one or two were good.
Then I had the S7 edge for a few weeks. WOW! Never seen anything like that camera.
I returned because of the bootloader and was really excited hearing how the 10's camera rated nearly as good.
I have no idea what crack they are smoking, but focus is an issue and low light performance is worse than the m8, IMO.

After the Verizon update, the camera is faster to focus for me. I still have far too many optical flares though, and halo effects from fingerprints on the lens. They go away if I spend a minute cleaning it well with a lens cloth, but I'm not going to do that before taking every single photo. The lens is easy to accidently touch.
It's tragic because I feel this is a decent camera -- but they either put the glass too far away from the sensor or didn't coat the lens properly to prevent fingerprints from ruining shots. I've never had this problem with any of my other smartphones.
If I had to do it again, I think I'd likely go S7 (standard.) Unfortunately for me, I'm outside of my return window. My girlfriend has it, all of her photos are better, the phone is slightly easier to hold /much lighter, storage performance is much better, and the phone finally has enough power to overcome TouchWiz. Anyone wanna trade? lol

meringo said:
After the Verizon update, the camera is faster to focus for me. I still have far too many optical flares though, and halo effects from fingerprints on the lens. They go away if I spend a minute cleaning it well with a lens cloth, but I'm not going to do that before taking every single photo. The lens is easy to accidently touch.
It's tragic because I feel this is a decent camera -- but they either put the glass too far away from the sensor or didn't coat the lens properly to prevent fingerprints from ruining shots. I've never had this problem with any of my other smartphones.
If I had to do it again, I think I'd likely go S7 (standard.) Unfortunately for me, I'm outside of my return window. My girlfriend has it, all of her photos are better, the phone is slightly easier to hold /much lighter, storage performance is much better, and the phone finally has enough power to overcome TouchWiz. Anyone wanna trade? lol
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Funny thing, the M9 camera "Could" take a decent pic. The sensor wasn't actually a bad one.
It just had poor optimisation and that's what let it down.
I have an iPhone for work (I know )
But the camera is superb, for a quick point and shoot, it's hard to beat.
Also a friend has the G5, camera is simply sublime. The wide angle is just amazing, still even with all this moaning I would swap any for my HTC.
Just something really cool about them..[emoji16] its a curse.

IMO the camera is the best HTC has made, but it's still no where close to Samsungs camera, even the original galaxy (SGS Vibrant) is miles better.
It's a choice, camera VS bootloader, mods, roms, etc.

SykesAT said:
IMO the camera is the best HTC has made, but it's still no where close to Samsungs camera, even the original galaxy (SGS Vibrant) is miles better.
It's a choice, camera VS bootloader, mods, roms, etc.
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I agree completely, the camera is htcs best, but still behind the curve. They'll get it one day.

I tried to take a video a few days ago and problem was it kept and stayed out of focus no matter what I tried
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meringo said:
After the Verizon update, the camera is faster to focus for me. I still have far too many optical flares though, and halo effects from fingerprints on the lens. They go away if I spend a minute cleaning it well with a lens cloth, but I'm not going to do that before taking every single photo. The lens is easy to accidently touch.
It's tragic because I feel this is a decent camera -- but they either put the glass too far away from the sensor or didn't coat the lens properly to prevent fingerprints from ruining shots. I've never had this problem with any of my other smartphones.
If I had to do it again, I think I'd likely go S7 (standard.) Unfortunately for me, I'm outside of my return window. My girlfriend has it, all of her photos are better, the phone is slightly easier to hold /much lighter, storage performance is much better, and the phone finally has enough power to overcome TouchWiz. Anyone wanna trade? lol
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What do you mean by storage performance? What kind of scenario in your case?
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Sounds like a there must some defective cameras out there. My camera always focuses instantly and I have taken a lot of photos. Not one of my photos has been disappointing so far and I have taken them in a wide array of condition, both dark and light.
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Sounds like a simple enough idea, and the reason I think it may work is because I think it's htcs optimization of the camera.
Do you think another app would work better? Might give a few a whirl tomorrow, bought a good one not long ago, will try it and let you guys know.
This is the app, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riseupgames.proshot2
Has buttons similar to a DSLR.

richii0207 said:
What do you mean by storage performance? What kind of scenario in your case?
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emmc (HTC) vs usf (what Samsung uses.)
Reads are 35% faster on the S7. Writes are much faster on the HTC10 due to great SLC write cache, but far less important than read speed, in my book.
This improves not only general performance, but file transfers to your computer (real world example: get photos off device without cloud)
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meringo said:
emmc (HTC) vs usf (what Samsung uses.)
Reads are 35% faster on the S7. Writes are much faster on the HTC10 due to great SLC write cache, but far less important than read speed, in my book.
This improves not only general performance, but file transfers to your computer (real world example: get photos off device without cloud)
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I understand that internal storage is faster on the S7, but I asked for a SCENARIO that affects YOU to the point where the speed of that difference shows.
Moving files such as movies, photos, and music to your internal storage seems a bit silly when you have an sd slot.
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I feel like I can take decent to great pictures BUT the phone sometimes has a hard time focusing unless you tap on the screen. If you were trying to take a picture of something quick, most likely it will be blurry. And yeah, I do clean my lenses more than usual. This is my only problem with this phone. I came from a S6E and that phone had a great camera
too bad it's crippled with touchwiz and yes, it still lags from time to time.