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Bad Photos with stock camera? ( comparision)

I've noticed that the stock htc camera is bad for taking photos
when i had Acer liquid with acer stream camera photos quality was really good
now i'm asking: is a software issue or what? also liquid with stock camera was bad,but only changing the application,the quality was a lot better
any suggestion? which parameters do you use with desire ? ( like saturation,brightness,iso etc)
Attacched photos to see differences ( sorry aren't 100% the same but you can notice the difference)

Just to know (I have pretty the same problem).
Try to make a photo without the back cover.

mmm tried but didn't noticed difference...
you noticed difference without backcover??

Camera indeed sucks. So what other camera applications are available?
Retro Camera and FX Camera. Those are not really for replacement.

erto90 said:
mmm tried but didn't noticed difference...
you noticed difference without backcover??
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Yes, I can clearly see the difference with and without the cover. Especially when making videos but also with photos.

Would be great to port camera from other devices.. also the google camera ( source camera) is better as i saw.. is possibile to port to all roms?
the camera of acer stream is awesome with awesome settings,but don't know if will be possible to ort to desire..
You right! without back cover there is a very visible difference!
Why this and how to solve?

Here you can see the difference with and without the backcover. For me, it's because of the plastic used for the lens. It spoil out using the phone with time.
You can try to remove the plastic or replace the cover. I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)

Hurizen said:
I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)
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a friend of mine was at a clockmaker. He just drills out the plastic cover and glues a saphire-glass in, now its a scratch free and HQ camera cover. Costs are around 20 Euro including work (it lasts 10 Minutes). But you need and old-style clock-maker with its own repair-shop.

I like Vignette alot. Well worth the money, really professional-ish look & feel to it.

Hurizen said:
Here you can see the difference with and without the backcover. For me, it's because of the plastic used for the lens. It spoil out using the phone with time.
You can try to remove the plastic or replace the cover. I have not found a good solution yet. For now... I just remove the cover when needed (thanks god I don't make a lot of photos)
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too difference! i think there will be a way to solve this problem,is inammissible for htc to made these things
someone has home-made solution working?

Or for 20 € I've found a battery cover replacement.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199270
But it's brown or silver . And it will get scratched in no time, like in the original one. Brian's solution is definitive.

Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)

Hurizen said:
Or for 20 € I've found a battery cover replacement.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199270
But it's brown or silver . And it will get scratched in no time, like in the original one. Brian's solution is definitive.
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aint that using the same plastic cover??
Mine aint scratched but I still notice a different without cover so replacing it with glass seems to be only option other then removing cover everytime you wanna take a pic/vid.

andycted said:
Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)
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Your pictures seem much more to what I am experiencing taking photos. Hardly(if any) difference cover on or off. I did notice there isn't a lot of color in your pictures.

Tbh, I don't think having a tiny smudge on the cover affects the quality that much as andycted demonstrated. The real limitation is that after all, its a phone camera.
Try using different camera app's with some image-enhancing effects. I recommend Vignette, try it out!

elvis56 said:
Your pictures seem much more to what I am experiencing taking photos. Hardly(if any) difference cover on or off. I did notice there isn't a lot of color in your pictures.
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I'm inside, in a very drab cloudly light coming from the window. Indeed the default settings for the camera (stock froyo) lack a bit of saturation, I forgot to set it to +1.
I remember noticying quite a lot of difference and thinking that since my protector is scratched, that was the cause. Turns out it was greasy on the outside, as well as the inside, as I remove the cover every other day to change battery
EDIT: I've added a couple of shots with +1 and +2 saturation and one where the autoflash went off

andycted said:
Have you tried cleaning really well on the inside, as well on the outside ? Mine is a bit scratched too, but I can't see much difference when taking photos. (can you ? http://picasaweb.google.com/101504838761028525419/CoverOnCoverOffCleanedCoverLens?feat=directlink)
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For me, also your pics lacks of shaprness. You'll notice it better with hi-def images.

just bought Vignette to see, I think is great apllication and take better photos than stock camera
There are a lot of optimization and i really like it
try this out!

Hurizen said:
For me, also your pics lacks of shaprness. You'll notice it better with hi-def images.
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I didn't take the pain to change the settings, or to take great pics, it's a chair and a bottle ! it was just in order to compare lens on/off photos, in every day conditions and the difference isn't all that great. My lens is scratched too.
Stock camera is ugly to see, dodgy in some stuff, but has a ton of functionality. I can't, even remotely, be called a photographer, but I had some fun while going for a walk some minutes ago.
http://picasaweb.google.it/101504838761028525419/MarePesaroTemporale?feat=directlink
The sky was very grey and light quite dim, so I tried to play with exposure and saturation, burning the sky and pretty much everything else in the process. A couple shoots aren't bad though. Try to guess which are with and without lens cover hehe.

Z3 Camera

Hi peeps,
I am not sure about you guys, but I am very happy abt Z3 camera and its features, I came from Z1 and the camera is good too!
I notice some did mention or some of my friends saying Sony camera suck and that the Z3 camera is not as good as samsung s3 or other brands bah bah bah....
But I asked, what Sony phones are you conparing with and what are the camera or display settings of the Z3 phones. Then I reliased the following issues
1) Some are using Xperia Z ultra to compare with Samsung S3. Z ultra only have 8 MP and no ISO settings so if u want to use a mid range camera to fight with a higher range phone who will lose out? Just like I used a 20MP Z3 with the same setting I will surely win...
He also mention the Z ultra camera pic cannot tell the color difference between white and yellowish white but when I took the same pic, with my Z3, he was shocked....
2) Z3 camera by default has set to 8/15 MP for 16:9. So the pic is not the best yet. You need to change the settings....
3) Off the HDR & Display Enhencment settings, u will see a better quality photo on screen and on PC...
4) If you are using matt, anti finger print or privacy screen protectors, please dont even bother to complain abt the screen quality.... You are using a few dollar to cover up 100 dollar stuff...
5) Only a few case is factory defects which need u to send out for repairs... Nothing is perfect just that u are the few unlucky ones to get a defected product...

Oh man, please check where are posting, this forum about Sony smartWATCH 3, not about xperia z3.

and as a z3 owner (and z ultra by chance) I dont even know where to start with the actual content..
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Flashben said:
Hi peeps,
I am not sure about you guys, but I am very happy abt Z3 camera and its features, I came from Z1 and the camera is good too!
I notice some did mention or some of my friends saying Sony camera suck and that the Z3 camera is not as good as samsung s3 or other brands bah bah bah....
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You are off topic here, should move to z3 board. This is a general problem we've heard many times on net. From my personal experiences, the answer is mixed. Overall, I would say Sony camera sometimes can be very good but in some situation it can be very bad. On the other hand, Samsung, HTC the camera performance is more consistent and most people prefer a stable camera(so most guys said iphone camera the best).
Sony camera generally poor on focus in my degrees of view while the quality can be very good when it can manage to get the focus right which is very annoy for most guys. Plus the Sony camera always compressed the image too much, in some photo when the object/environment is hard to compress, it will just lost the fight for Samsung which is a very clear answer.

[Q] Camera focus doubt

Hi.
I have an xperia SP and the camera focus is a good piece of sh.... the photos are all blurry.
As far as I kow, there are several xperia models with this problem.
Does T3 have this problem too?
Thanks

tarzan2003 said:
Hi.
I have an xperia SP and the camera focus is a good piece of sh.... the photos are all blurry.
As far as I kow, there are several xperia models with this problem.
Does T3 have this problem too?
Thanks
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Not at all
At least not on my T3
Pictures came out to be very good
Maybe you've got a faulty unit, try reporting Sony service center

avayrocks said:
Not at all
At least not on my T3
Pictures came out to be very good
Maybe you've got a faulty unit, try reporting Sony service center
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Thanks.
The bad image quality in SP is solved. It was because of a lens coat sony puts on it. Coat cleaned = images ok

Back Camera is taking blurred pictures

hey guys !
My friend just bought an m5 a couple of weeks ago and he's experiencing a strange thing with the camera. The front camera is working just fine ,but the back camera is taking blurred pictures. When he focuses on something everything is sharp and good right until pic is taken and processed, the results are blurry pictures . Sometimes the camera takes normal sharp pics but the majority of the times its blurred ones, so I'm asking you guys : is it a common thing among all m5 devices or am I missing something in the camera setting ? could it be a software problem or is it more likely to be a hardware defect ?
I'd really like to have your opinions on this as I was the one to convince him to get a Sony device instead of a Samsung even though I'm a note user myself. The device is not rooted , running the latest stock Android Lollipop 5.1 .
Thanks in advance !

xkifah said:
hey guys !
My friend just bought an m5 a couple of weeks ago and he's experiencing a strange thing with the camera. The front camera is working just fine ,but the back camera is taking blurred pictures. When he focuses on something everything is sharp and good right until pic is taken and processed, the results are blurry pictures . Sometimes the camera takes normal sharp pics but the majority of the times its blurred ones, so I'm asking you guys : is it a common thing among all m5 devices or am I missing something in the camera setting ? could it be a software problem or is it more likely to be a hardware defect ?
I'd really like to have your opinions on this as I was the one to convince him to get a Sony device instead of a Samsung even though I'm a note user myself. The device is not rooted , running the latest stock Android Lollipop 5.1 .
Thanks in advance !
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Just turn on HDR option
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I find that the rear camera cannot focus beyond about 10m.
To take the best possible shot focus on something about 1m away in full daylight, if still bad, then definitely a problem.

icstm said:
I find that the rear camera cannot focus beyond about 10m.
To take the best possible shot focus on something about 1m away in full daylight, if still bad, then definitely a problem.
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I am observing the same thing with my Xperia M5 Dual- OK with close up shots only.
Does everyone think this is normal? Or should I be worried that I'd miss capturing important moments?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.

I use Snap camera to avoid such things.

I had a similar problem. In my case the problem was that the hybrid autofocus did not work and only one of the two autofocus methods was working. The result was that roughly half of the times pictures were out of focus (randomly). I solved the problem sending the device to repair. They changed the camera and now everything is working fine. I think this is a quite common problem, since I read many posts reporting a similar problem. By the way: in my case using for instance camera fv5 resulted in good pictures all the time, since this software is capable of using only the working part of the hybrid autofocus. The problem was that focusing was very slow.

Can anyone confirm if the hybrid autofocus problem exists on M5 from 2016 (5.1 Lollipop or it happens just on 6.0.1)? If not sure about year, there is a sticker under SIM slot, use a needle or something similar to pull it. It should be 16WXX (XX is week the phone was manufactured).

Dear Developers, I experience the same main camera problem. The images are vague after 2 meters. I used fv5 app. But, still same quality. In fv5 app, the maximum resolution shows 3.1Mp(2048*1536). But, front cam shows good images and the back one very poor.*
What should I do..? I bought this new M5dual from Amazon yesterday.

Moto Z Play Camera is Bad

I went from a Nokia 929 to the Moto Z Play and I really hate the camera on the Play.
Could I take a camera module from the Moto Z and put it in the Play since the phones are so similar?

mckulz said:
I went from a Nokia 929 to the Moto Z Play and I really hate the camera on the Play.
Could I take a camera module from the Moto Z and put it in the Play since the phones are so similar?
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I have S7 edge and Moto z play and love the pictures from the moto z play. The s7 makes all the pictures yellow shade.
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samomamo said:
I have S7 edge and Moto z play and love the pictures from the moto z play. The s7 makes all the pictures yellow shade.
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I find it difficult to get clear pictures without the OIS that the Moto Z has, I really have to focus to hold my hands steady.

mckulz said:
I find it difficult to get clear pictures without the OIS that the Moto Z has, I really have to focus to hold my hands steady.
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Maybe something is wrong with your phone ? You can go to the store and check with the demo units .
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mckulz said:
I find it difficult to get clear pictures without the OIS that the Moto Z has, I really have to focus to hold my hands steady.
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Yeah I have no issues with stabilization for pictures. And they turn out great without even trying to get a good shot

I'll agree, this camera blows. My Moto X Pure kills this thing. I go to lots of EDM shows, and the Z play constantly fights to focus, if at all, during video recording. Yet the Snapchat camera pulls video flawlessly, but the audio is ruined. Probably an issue with the stock camera software or the stock camera api. Just my two cents.

Agreed. There is also a sh*t tone of noise in photos...specially indoors. My lower budget grand 2 takes better photos.

It isn't.
Coming from a Samsung Note 4 the Z Play camera quality was a big concern for me. But actually it's better than the Note 4. Samsung applies way too much denoise and sharpening filters which you could see a lot in outdoor images with trees and so on. (Giving everything a "watercolor effect".) Of course they do not have so much noise on the other hand but images clearly lack of detail with Samsung software.
The Moto Z Play gave me more details compared to the Note 4 (which is the same module than Galaxy S5). Also low light is better. Overall for me quality was on par for example with the OnePlus three of my son.
The only thing I agree which is missing is the OIS. You really have to concentrate to hold the phone steady when taking HDR images. Without HDR I don't have issues though. On the other hand HDR images are really good to increase the images dynamic range.
I also switched to Snap Camera app (not to be confused with Snap from Lineage) which gives me a lot more options compared to the stock camera. There I completely disabled the denoise filter and lowered the sharpening filter to -2. This gave me even more details without sacrificing the Quality with to much noise. Beside this it has 4K Super Slowmotion and an enhanced HDR mode for really hard conditions.
I noticed that a lot of People judge the images only on the small phone screen and don't zoom in an look at the details. Also they expect images to perfectly come out with auto mode and not trying to play with the settings and optimize them.
Some images at full Resolution. Most of them were shot under not so ideal conditions but I think they are good espacially with the given conditions. Just click on the links below:
A lot of small details in this image which come out really well. Also the dynamic range and the colors are great I think.
Denoise disabled too, maybe a little to much sharpening. Therefore noise came out a little to much but nice details if you look at the meadow, trees and roof.
Optimized the sharpening filter a little.
A shot against the rising sun. You could still see details of the plants in the foreground.
Very dark - actually it was darker than it appears on the image:

how dare you

As I said, video recording=trash
Pictures I have no gripes about.
But with lots of lighting changes, LED boards, lazers, etc, camera won't focus for $}{!π and that's beyond annoying.

mckulz said:
I went from a Nokia 929 to the Moto Z Play and I really hate the camera on the Play.
Could I take a camera module from the Moto Z and put it in the Play since the phones are so similar?
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In daylight it takes beautiful photos but there is noise in lowlight.

Yash24 said:
In daylight it takes beautiful photos but there is noise in lowlight.
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totally agree. Cameras of mobiles are not going to replace an SLR or even a good compact camera. Take it for snapshots or leave it.

klofisch said:
totally agree. Cameras of mobiles are not going to replace an SLR or even a good compact camera. Take it for snapshots or leave it.
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Yea! Rightly said.

Motorola phones have always had bad to mediocre cameras. Little has changed. Everybody raves about the Pixel camera. I consider it ok. Nothing I've seen yet touches the LG cameras with the Sony sensor. Unfortunately you have to put up with phones that last between one month and one year.

mckulz said:
I went from a Nokia 929 to the Moto Z Play and I really hate the camera on the Play.
Could I take a camera module from the Moto Z and put it in the Play since the phones are so similar?
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I really want to know this. I have wondered the same thing.

I agreed with this phone the lack of ios its impossible to take pictures with good focus i tried to take pictures of my child's while playing but no success at all i came from a note 4 and for me the photos were great with the ios I'm planning to change to the s7 edge
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The Z Play camera has an annoyingly slow autofocus, but you still can get nice pictures from time to time. The video-mode is total crap and completely unusable for the same autofocus-reason.

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I have S7 edge and Moto z play and love the pictures from the moto z play. The s7 makes all the pictures yellow shade.
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Can you make video of speed Test between Z PLAY and S7 EDGE and upload it on YouTube?
Will be AWESOME!

Wanted to chime in and say the Snap Camera app is a godsend for videos. Camera actually focuses, and stays focused. Tested last night at Deadmau5, through lasers, and flashing lights, perfect recording.

I really wish there was a way to just permanently disable "night mode" on the stock camera. I've had to go back to Open Camera for my photos because they almost never come out blurry. The stock camera changes to this mode with the slightest change of lighting and ends up just making the photos look like absolute garbage.