Hello,
In my country (Romania), my mobile service provider (DIGI MOBILE - RCS-RDS), made the transition to 4G LTE TDD Band 38 ( 2600 MHz ).
Our phone has in Engineering Mode, showing band 38 but I can not activate it. Even if I disable another band, band 38 is not possible to activate.
The phone is P8000 (B).
Qualcomm processors have software with which you can change the LTE band.
Brothers, there is someone who has managed to change LTE band?
Software for our processor, MTK MT6753, have seen somewhere?
I googleit but without success.
I searched the web forums but all without success.
Any idea?
Thank you.
Sorry for my English !
I too have forced LTE but no 4g
I'm in the UK 800MHz
Hello guys, I was doing some extensive research regarding how to open bands on this specific chipset. Since P8000 is using a relative the relative new MT6753 core, it is hard to find documentation about it. There are some software tools to work with lite SP flasher, MAUI Meta tool and some others, but no no so many. In the other hand the NV_RAM and NV_DATA paradigm makes the system hard to configure using non-conventional means, understanding for conventional the configuration prior to compiling.
Until know, I was able to activate bands using MAUI Meta, but even confirming on Android Engineering, where you can select Bands Region, the systems lacks of files to retrieve the new bands information. These leads to meta information corruption and incomplete Baseband/Modem configuration. Android detect inconsistency an fail seting it up.
The next step is try to recreate configuration files from (IMG files) and Metadata to properly initialize the baseband. Unfortunately this is really hard to accomplish. Mediatek requires files and metadata being aligned in order to pull out the configuration data for the baseband. This is a huge difference from Qualcomm, where the configurations actually made directly on the Modem NVM.
Salut, șogore!
I will assume you're from Oradea (like my wife) - the mother and the father of RCS-RDS.
To your question, no, it's not possible to change the LTE band on this phone, for the bands are hardcoded in the ”radio” chipset, distinctively different from the Mediatek CPU. I wasn't even aware that RDS introduced LTE (which is the same as 4G, Mr. thirteeneast), at least not in Bucharest. Too bad that the Elephone ”engineers” (read: morons) opted for two vastly different radio chipsets înstead of an all-encompassing one single chip.
But hey, you can still press RDS to modify its 4G frequency, aligning it to our national (and continental) bands, along with Vodafone, Orange and Telekom (formerly Cosmote). Good luck with that!
vladoots said:
Salut, șogore!
I will assume you're from Oradea (like my wife) - the mother and the father of RCS-RDS.
To your question, no, it's not possible to change the LTE band on this phone, for the bands are hardcoded in the ”radio” chipset, distinctively different from the Mediatek CPU. I wasn't even aware that RDS introduced LTE (which is the same as 4G, Mr. thirteeneast), at least not in Bucharest. Too bad that the Elephone ”engineers” (read: morons) opted for two vastly different radio chipsets înstead of an all-encompassing one single chip.
But hey, you can still press RDS to modify its 4G frequency, aligning it to our national (and continental) bands, along with Vodafone, Orange and Telekom (formerly Cosmote). Good luck with that!
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Multumesc, sogore!
Nasol. Practic nu avem nici o sansa sa activam banda 38.
Asta este, ma resemnez.
O zi buna!
I'm really sorry. Basically, we have no chance to activate band 38.
That is, I resignedly.
Have a nice day!
Hi there im from Timisoara my phone is Elephone p7000 and i also want to activate lte band 38 tdd for digi 4g,if you find any method to enable tdd bands on mediatek soc write here,my phone has Mtk6752 but no tdd bands enabled and there are other phones with the same chipset like jiayu s3 and siswo cooper that work with that band tdd38 so the processor is capable but the lte bands need to be enabled from software,anyway sorry for bad english,if there is someone who can help us write here
NO you cannot ..... RCS-RDS did not get the 4g license from the romanian telecomunication autority.They have a partnership with telekom witch got 2 licenses ... one being the one on 2600 that rds uses,they can do that because they have powerfull infrascture and for a new company like telekom getting acces to that infrastructure is important.
alejandro.zimmerman said:
Hello guys, I was doing some extensive research regarding how to open bands on this specific chipset. Since P8000 is using a relative the relative new MT6753 core, it is hard to find documentation about it. There are some software tools to work with lite SP flasher, MAUI Meta tool and some others, but no no so many. In the other hand the NV_RAM and NV_DATA paradigm makes the system hard to configure using non-conventional means, understanding for conventional the configuration prior to compiling.
Until know, I was able to activate bands using MAUI Meta, but even confirming on Android Engineering, where you can select Bands Region, the systems lacks of files to retrieve the new bands information. These leads to meta information corruption and incomplete Baseband/Modem configuration. Android detect inconsistency an fail seting it up.
The next step is try to recreate configuration files from (IMG files) and Metadata to properly initialize the baseband. Unfortunately this is really hard to accomplish. Mediatek requires files and metadata being aligned in order to pull out the configuration data for the baseband. This is a huge difference from Qualcomm, where the configurations actually made directly on the Modem NVM.
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Hi
i have a question .
the allview p5 energy has a mt6735p with 4g band 38 active is ther a way to remove its config files or even the hole rom and add it to cubot x12 that has mt6735m i know the cpu-s are difrent and the 3g is difrent but the way i see it most of the work is done
all that is needed is to remove some of the files and add them to the other.
allso yes i know that sounds easy and that it isnt but its better then starting from 0
sorry for my bad english
vladoots said:
Salut, șogore!
I will assume you're from Oradea (like my wife) - the mother and the father of RCS-RDS.
To your question, no, it's not possible to change the LTE band on this phone, for the bands are hardcoded in the ”radio” chipset, distinctively different from the Mediatek CPU. I wasn't even aware that RDS introduced LTE (which is the same as 4G, Mr. thirteeneast), at least not in Bucharest. Too bad that the Elephone ”engineers” (read: morons) opted for two vastly different radio chipsets înstead of an all-encompassing one single chip.
But hey, you can still press RDS to modify its 4G frequency, aligning it to our national (and continental) bands, along with Vodafone, Orange and Telekom (formerly Cosmote). Good luck with that!
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Hey,
I buyed the phone from everbuying.net. It is specified that works on 2600MHz. Initially, when I was in places with this frecvency available (band 38), it worked. Today it doesn't. I don't know what happened, maybe after I installed the rom update the band 38 (2600MHz) it's not available anymore.
Hello from Turks and Caicos! Any chance to unlock additional LTE bands with Mediatek MTK ? I need to unlock band 17 FDD-700on my MTK6735 Cubot X17!
Thanks in advance.
Hi people. I have an ulefone be touch 3, and somehow it has the LTE bands that are not the same from the ulefone page info. Acording to ulefone it should have LTE BAND 1, 3,7 and 20. But mine has 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 , 17 and 19. Here is a screenshot. Im rooted. so if i can be of any help to anyone with a file or anything. just let me know. I dont know how, it was like this when i bough it here in argentina.
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logical idea
Hello,
In my country (Romania), my mobile service provider (DIGI MOBILE - RCS-RDS), made the transition to 4G LTE TDD Band 38 ( 2600
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Any idea?
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as you mentioned that you have other device that unlocked band with same processor
than you can take backup of nvram db of that device and flash it on your device
this is just a logical guess tell us if u did something
also check the imei and mac address might have been changed but dont worry about that you can easily change that
this all can be done maui meta
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Does any body know if it is possible and if so how to enable the HSPA: 850/1900 band on a Global (GSM/CDMA) Version of the TP2.
It already has the HSPA: 2100 enabled... so maybe someone RF inclined could shed some light on this question.
Thanks
I dont believe it has the hardware to do it. It is not a software tweak.
That is why so many people waited for the ATT version to come out. There is an Australian version that works on one of the bands but not both.
Sorry to say that I think you are wrong about the Hardware reason...
Apparently the Pro2 has the chip installed, but it's locked down some how. That info has been floating around from an inside source at Telus. they say it actually has 850/1900/2100 UTMS bands but just got "locked" by Telus.
Also sites like Engaget has long posted some HTC FCC info proving that; http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/20/htc-passes-cdma-gsm-hybrid-touch-pro2-through-the-fcc/
Also The TP2 uses Qualcomm's MSM7600. The specs for that processor allow two major sets of radio interfaces, only one of which supports CDMA 800 and 1900. That major set has two variants that support HSPA: 2100+800 or 2100+1900+850.
So the question is; is there anyone with the proper knowledge that can tell what is onboard the TELUS TP2 and if it has infact the variant that supports the North American frequencies, how do we enable it?
Thanks for posting with FACTS and not Thoughts as this is the only way we will get a valid answer to this question.
Hmm this is definitely an interesting idea. I'd love to have the front facing camera of the Global Version, but I still need 850/1900 UMTS
850/1900 WCDMA on Global version
Gentlemen:
While the chipset has the various frequency capabilities, it is the tuning of the antannae that determines which frequencies are recieveable , ie, turned on, in the various versions. The AT&T version has a different tuning of the antannae than the global versions.
While theoretically possible, the anatanne is part of the main board and must be physically removed and replaced. I have not been able to find a universal antannae that could be resoldered to the board, if one was brave enough to give it a try.
there is software changes to the chipset controller required as well.
I think it is pretty impractical and likely impossible to do outside of have a new board installed with the properly tuned antannae to make it work. I have researched this for some time now, in an attempt to be able to use the EU versions here in NA. I travel internationally a lot, to Asia and EU, and need the 2100 band, so that has been my motivation.
There may be someone else out there who has different information, but this is what I have learned in digging through the available data for the past 3-4 years of various HTC devices and their variants.
Hope this helps,
MWS
Ok, so here's the idea:
According to the wiki page for the Universal, the phone uses the Qualcomm MSM6250 for the cellular functions. If you look at page 5 on the datasheet for the MSM6250, you'll see that the chip does indeed support quad-band GSM, as well as UMTS 1900 (1850 MHz - 1910 MHz) in addition to the UMTS 2100 band (1920 MHz - 1980 MHz). I assume these North American frequencies were disabled in the chipset's firmware to avoid extra licensing costs since the device would never be sold in North America.
Qualcomm has a program which allows for diagnostics and configuration of baseband chips in phones called QPST. If you look on page 83/84 of the program's user manual, it appears that you can specify which band classes the phone is allowed to connect to. I have no idea if this will work since my Universal hasn't arrived in the mail yet, but I just wanted to share what I found with all of you.
Being a new member, I can't post links to the pdf files, and the files themselves are apparently too large to upload. However, if you search on google for "80-v1400-3_h_qpst_ug.pdf" you can find the QPST manual, and "MSM6250 datasheet" for the chipset datasheet.
This, I help to share it here
This seems interesting, please keep us informed on how all develops.
If anyone can help on this please post here, if not stay away of posting "I wish, I like", etc.
Will sticky for the time being
rockstar95 said:
Ok, so here's the idea:
According to the wiki page for the Universal, the phone uses the Qualcomm MSM6250 for the cellular functions. If you look at page 5 on the datasheet for the MSM6250, you'll see that the chip does indeed support quad-band GSM, as well as UMTS 1900 (1850 MHz - 1910 MHz) in addition to the UMTS 2100 band (1920 MHz - 1980 MHz). I assume these North American frequencies were disabled in the chipset's firmware to avoid extra licensing costs since the device would never be sold in North America.
Qualcomm has a program which allows for diagnostics and configuration of baseband chips in phones called QPST. If you look on page 83/84 of the program's user manual, it appears that you can specify which band classes the phone is allowed to connect to. I have no idea if this will work since my Universal hasn't arrived in the mail yet, but I just wanted to share what I found with all of you.
Being a new member, I can't post links to the pdf files, and the files themselves are apparently too large to upload. However, if you search on google for "80-v1400-3_h_qpst_ug.pdf" you can find the QPST manual, and "MSM6250 datasheet" for the chipset datasheet.
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After doing some more research, it seems like the NV_BAND_PREF_I value in the NV-ram has to be changed. From what I've read, this value "stores the band-class preference on a per NAM basis." I found a recent thread discussing this same idea, except it's going from US bands to European bands on the Motorola Atrix. As seen in post #8, a member edited the NV_BAND_PREF_I and apparently was successful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992635
You should check out the files i posted on this thread link. It has some debug tools for the modem that might help -Activesync2Qct, Activesync2WModem, BandSel, NetSel, openqct, Uni_AT,WModem, WmodemX, and xBBBL.
NetSel has options for gsm850 and umts1900, don't know if it does anything though.
Pocketnow has recently leaked specs for the Lumia 900. Among them is that the Lumia 900 will support the 1700MHz band.
It has concluded that the Lumia 900 will then support UMTS 3G for T-Mobile USA.
On closer inspection, however, this not be the case. You see, AT&T uses AWS for LTE, but not for UMTS.
We will take a look at the HTC Vivid and Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket (the only two LTE phone for AT&T at the moment) as examples. Both of these handsets uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor.
Both handsets support the 1700 Mhz band for LTE, but not for UMTS and as a result will not work on T-Mobile's UMTS network.
In addition, there has been little evidence that there exist Snapdragon processor that support pentaband.
As a result of this whole investigation and to the dismay of many T-Mobile customers, I have to conclude that the Lumia 900 will likely NOT support T-Mobile 3G.
day2die said:
On closer inspection, however, this not be the case. You see, AT&T uses AWS for LTE, but not for UMTS.
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That is not correct... T-mobile uses the AWS band (1700/2100) for it's UMTS network.
AT&T has never used the AWS band and after the failed merger is required to give some of it's AWS spectrum to T-Mobile as compensation. AT&T uses the 700 MHz band for it's LTE network.
If I remember correctly, there are no integrated LTE radios curently. The current crop of LTE phones have a separate LTE radio to complement the GSM/UMTS radio therefore, if the Ace actually does comes with a pentaband radio, it still is possible the AWS band will support T-Mobile's AWS UMTS network.
You are both right, at&t uses both the 700MHz and 1700MHz bands for its LTE network, as mentioned in this article http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/16/2640728/pantech-p9070-att-lte-850mhz-fcc. Remains to be seen what the 900 actually supports but if it was designed with the falied merger with Tmo in mind the 1700 band may not be used for LTE but could have been intended for Tmo compatibility. The 710 coming to Tmo next week has support for at&t's network so its possible the 900 was designed with the same intent. We'll know soon enough.
I thought the AT&T - T-Mobile Merge has been cancelled?
It is cancelled
If the Lumia 900 uses the Qualcomm MDM9200 LTE modem and is anything like the HTC Vivid, its support band might look like this:
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As you can see, the HTC Vivid support AWS, but only for LTE.
I hope that I am wrong for the sake of all the T-Mobile users that want the Lumia 900.
I am relatively new to WP7, and I am looking for a new high end device.
Since my country only has 3G, is there an (upcoming) device that is on par with the Lumia 900 that supports 3G?
Thanks.
Tsury said:
I am relatively new to WP7, and I am looking for a new high end device.
Since my country only has 3G, is there an (upcoming) device that is on par with the Lumia 900 that supports 3G?
Thanks.
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Don't worry. I am 99.99% sure that the Lumia 900 will be available in Europe.
According this report, AT&T will get a 900. Looks like I might get the chance to play with one.
http://goo.gl/tP4I2
Looks like you were right:
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V 850
LTE Band 17 (700)
WCDMA Band I 2100
WCDMA Band II 1900
WCDMA Band VIII 900
LTE Band 4 (1700/2100)
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http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
Yep, Tmobile users stuck with the low end crap.
If the bands are there, why would it limit T-Mobile customers from using them?
hiko36 said:
If the bands are there, why would it limit T-Mobile customers from using them?
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Not exactly limit, but no HSDPA data access. Only EDGE/GPRS.
This is a huge disappointment. I want to like keep using WP7 but the hardware restrictions hobble the device makers too much. Nokia was the biggest proponents of pentaband but now they can't even support it due to chipset restrictions. It really puts a big hurdle in front of my decision to buy their phone when it requires me to use a carrier that costs twice as much and has data caps.
If this was pentaband I'd probably choose it above the Galaxy Nexus, but as it stands owning this phone would mean an extra $40 a month on my phone bill.
T-Mobile users need not worry though. T-Mobile is adding 1900MHz spectrum for HSPA+.
geoken said:
This is a huge disappointment. I want to like keep using WP7 but the hardware restrictions hobble the device makers too much. Nokia was the biggest proponents of pentaband but now they can't even support it due to chipset restrictions. It really puts a big hurdle in front of my decision to buy their phone when it requires me to use a carrier that costs twice as much and has data caps.
If this was pentaband I'd probably choose it above the Galaxy Nexus, but as it stands owning this phone would mean an extra $40 a month on my phone bill.
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Blame Nokia and carriers for their decision. Not the OS.
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vetvito said:
Blame Nokia and carriers for their decision. Not the OS.
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Ah well, what you're going to do?
T-Mobile always seems stuck with the low-end crap simply because they don't have the money to purchase exclusivity for the good stuff.
Makes me just want to sign up for their hotspot and start getting international unlocked phones instead and forget the whole idea of carrier branded phones.
vetvito said:
Blame Nokia and carriers for their decision. Not the OS.
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Why shouldn't I blame the OS? Last I checked Nokia seemed pretty fond of pentaband devices. All their recent high end phones (up to and including the N9) were pentaband. They didn't stop using pentaband until they started developing WP7 phones and were forced to use chipsets that don’t support pentaband.
There are 3 reasons Nokia wouldn't make a pentaband WP7 phone;
1. The OS doesn't support any chipsets that would allow a pentaband radio
2. Nokia doesn't want to make pentaband phones
3. The carriers told Nokia not to make a pentaband phone
Option 1 is provably true. Option 2 is unlikely since Nokia had been making all their recent high end phones pentaband. Option 3 is also unlikely because the phone was first released in Europe where carriers have less sway and where Nokia was already selling pentaband phones.
its number 3. As the discussion is about the Lumia 900, a exclusive US device. Blame the CARRIER AT&T. This is not a unlocked world phone.
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geoken said:
Why shouldn't I blame the OS? Last I checked Nokia seemed pretty fond of pentaband devices. All their recent high end phones (up to and including the N9) were pentaband. They didn't stop using pentaband until they started developing WP7 phones and were forced to use chipsets that don’t support pentaband.
There are 3 reasons Nokia wouldn't make a pentaband WP7 phone;
1. The OS doesn't support any chipsets that would allow a pentaband radio
2. Nokia doesn't want to make pentaband phones
3. The carriers told Nokia not to make a pentaband phone
Option 1 is provably true. Option 2 is unlikely since Nokia had been making all their recent high end phones pentaband. Option 3 is also unlikely because the phone was first released in Europe where carriers have less sway and where Nokia was already selling pentaband phones.
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The Nokia 710 has quad band UMTS frequencies and it uses the exact same chipset as the other 2nd gen WP7 devices so its definitely possible for Nokia to at least inclde support for both US carriers, though not pentaband. This was obviously a deliberate decision to make it at&t compabible only.
Hi All,
Just a thread to keep notes regarding our specific carrier needs, for now it's mostly to keep track of the release dates and availability elsewhere for Notes 3 models that are AWS compatible.
This thread will eventually evolved into Tips & Hints, Unlocking, Radio/ROM to flash, etc.
Tmo has finally updated their Notes 3 page; $704 full retail price
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-3.html
Specifications:
CPU:
2.3 GHz Snapdragon Quad Core Processor
Display:
Super AMOLED™ HD 1080p Screen
Size and Weight
5.95 x 3.12 x 0.33 inches
5.9 ouncess
Operating System:
Android 4.3 (Jelly Bean)
Estimated Battery Life:
3200 mAh Battery
15 hours talk time
12 days standby time
Memory:
3GB RAM
32GB ROM
Connectivity:
Sync methods: USB, WiFi, Bluetooth, DLNA,NFC
4G Capable (up to 42Mbps)
Wi-Fi and Mobile Calling
Radios:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Hearing Aid Compatibility:
M3 & T3
In The Box:
Galaxy Note 3
Battery
Charger
Headset
Features:
Visual Voicemail
S-Pen
Swype
Speakerphone
Stereo Bluetooth® Connectivity
Samsung Media Hub
Proximity Sensor
Panorama Mode
Near Field Communication
Memory Card Slot (microSD)
LTE Capable
LED Camera Flash
720p & 1080p HD Camcorder
Google Voice Search™
Google Play™
Full corporate Exchange e-mail and calendar support
Front-facing 2 MP Camera
3.5mm audio jack
Alarm clock
Autofocus
Backlit Camera Sensor
BurstShot™
Bluetooth 4.0
Calculator
Calendar
Conference Calling
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it used to be a place holder page with vague spec, now it finally has some pictures on it with more info and pre-order
No news yet from Windmobile / Mobilicity
What does quad band gsm mean? Well it work on the at&t gsm only network if I get it unlocked, like straight talk etc
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noob question
sorry for the nooby question but i have been w8 a long time for the note 3 and now that its finally coming i feel left out.. i use wind and i really like it but they wouldn't give me any useful information about their plans for note 3. so i'm looking for help here, t-mobile has the preorder open and i was thinking of getting that, i live in canada so would i be able to preorder from t-mobile?? if it is would that note 3 work with wind?? and what model is t-mobile selling. thanks
Supports other carriers' frequencies as as well as LTE 2600 Mhz!
In addition to the tech specs cited by the OP from the products section, here is another "official" page from T-Mobile in their support section.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-9056
Specifically, I am interested in roaming and network interoperation capabilities. So from that link, here it is for anyone else if also interested.
Tech specs: Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Network
3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
3G/UMTS: Band I (UMTS 2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100/AWS), Band V (850)
LTE: Band 4, Band 17, Band 1(2100), Band 2(1900), 5(850), 7(2600)
As you can see, it includes every 2G/3G/4G frequency on AT&T (but AT&T's Notes 3 does not reciprocate), some on Verizon 4G (Band 4 but not their Band 13 700 Mhz which is different than AT&T's Band 17 700 MHz), and Sprint's 2G/3G and Band 2 1900 MHz 4G.
Well, I can hardly believe this. It even supports LTE 2600 Mhz which is available in many countries (including Canada's Bell and Rogers) and thus capable of the highest theoretical LTE speed where carrier supported.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
I became most interested in the T Mo version because it offered the greatest interoperability after considerable research on the FCC site. Now discovered that sweet bonus of 2600 Mhz.
[Q] Which USA Note 3 Variant to get? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45794297#post45794297
The TMo, Wind, Mobi version is the best in terms of using in other carriers' networks. That is not only in terms of the radio but traditionally, T Mo has not locked the bootloader. It's my undertanding the TMo version will come SIM-unlocked too.
snoopycr said:
What does quad band gsm mean? Well it work on the at&t gsm only network if I get it unlocked, like straight talk etc
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It refers to the following 4 frequencies: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz. The frequencies are not universally supported by the world's carriers. In North America, the 850 and 1900 are used, while Europe for example uses 900 and 1800. Usage in other regions vary. But to have "quad band GSM" capability means global compatibility, at least on 2G networks, and is therefore desirable.
GSM itself and closely associated technologies EDGE and GPRS (if it's GSM, then EDGE and GPRS are automatically implied) is also referred to 2G that preceded the 3G and 4G we are now using but backward compatible with 2G. Thus 3G and 4G phones such as the Galaxy Note 3 we are talking about here will work on the AT&T GSM network (which by the way uses 850 and 1900 Mhz frequencies) in addition to (I think this is your confusion) to AT&T's 3G and 4G frequencies.
Any modern, unlocked phones nowadays that has GSM capability will be quad band. So 2G is not an issue - any version of the phone will work on any carrier's 2G network. However, if you want to use AT&T's 3G and 4G network, you have to get a version of the phone that supports AT&T's 3G and/or 4G network. Only AT&T's version of the Note 3 (as well as T-Mobile's version for reasons pointed out above) will wholly work on AT&T's 3G and 4G networks.
In summary - I'm not sure if this is the question you wanted answered - yes the T Mo version will work on the entire AT&T 2G (GSM), 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) and 4G (LTE) networks - whatever voice or data capabilities your AT&T plan requires. But the T Mo version has to be SIM (carrier) unlocked. From what I understand, this is the case.
husainh said:
sorry for the nooby question but i have been w8 a long time for the note 3 and now that its finally coming i feel left out.. i use wind and i really like it but they wouldn't give me any useful information about their plans for note 3. so i'm looking for help here, t-mobile has the preorder open and i was thinking of getting that, i live in canada so would i be able to preorder from t-mobile?? if it is would that note 3 work with wind?? and what model is t-mobile selling. thanks
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WIND has traditionally used whatever version T-Mobile has used as they were exactly compatible with the WIND network and because WIND is too small of a company to impose their own specification on Samsung. They use the closet matching US model just like Bell, Rogers and Telus would use the AT&T version. Click on my link to [Q] Which USA Note 3 Variant to get? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45794297#post45794297 and you will see the various model numbers of the Note 3. The "T" version is what WIND should carry (T for T Mobile surprise surprise) although the WIND Note 3 may come in their own orange retail box. Please note that WIND has traditionally SIM (carrier) locked their phones - you probably already know this but that means if you take it to the US, it'll roam on T-Mobile with WIND billing you. But if you did want to insert a T Mobile SIM, then you'd have to unlock it which, although can be done, would invalidate the warranty.
Also note that WIND doesn't use the quad GSM frequencies because it doesn't have a 2G network. It never built one because it started only in I think 2008 timeframe. Nor does it yet have a 4G network. So in Canada, it will use only the 3G 1700/2100 (AWS) capabilities of the T Mobile model. That's what I was talking about by WIND choosing the closet matching model for US carriers. But that's okay because if WIND does obtain part of that 700 MHz spectrum being auctioned by the CRTC, then their Note 3 would be 4G ready.
You're on WIND yet interested in the T Mo model because T Mo is taking pre-oders. Are you not aware WIND is also taking pre-orders since about September 23 through their Facebook account? https://www.facebook.com/WINDmobile/app_632884196731950
Also wind version going be octa core
Edit: it's official wind mobile getting s800 processor I feel disappointed that they mislead us on Facebook
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Welcome fellow Canadians!
Seeing as the Galaxy Note 3 is going to be released in Canada very shortly (October 4th), I figured we should get some discussion going on where you're buying, and any speculations to price points.
I just got off of a chat with Telus, regarding an email I had received, offering $50 off a device when you sign a contract, OR, stay month-to-month. So you can save a bit of money for those who are purchasing the phone outright, or even signing up for a new contract. You need to call a special sales line: 1-877-279-3900
Also, while she couldn't officially confirm, the rep did tell me that she would strongly suggest I go to a corporate store on Friday.. Obviously this is just in case there are shipping delays (doubtful) but I think that it's quite safe to say that it's coming out on Friday!
Currently, Wind Mobile is the only carrier to officially announce their pricing, but I think that it would be safe to say that the other carriers will be in line (roughly) with Wind.
- WIND 40: $449
- WIND 30: $549
- WIND 33: $549
- WIND 20: $649
- Outright: $749
I was also able to "confirm" with the rep, that the price point for Telus would probably fall around $799, so that isn't too far off of Wind's pricing.
Discuss anything related to the Canadian launch of the Note 3! :laugh:
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original source from http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/28/w...laxy-note-3-on-october-4th-heres-the-pricing/
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samsung note 3 - international n9000 version
Hi, I understand the whole concept of wind using the same frequency at t mobile.
I have a Samsung note 3 model num sm-n9000, and I want to use it on wind network which it is not allowing me to. Can you tell me the steps to take to allow my phone to accept wind frequency. thanks.
and please detailed, im new at this thing.
thanks
rminhas said:
Hi, I understand the whole concept of wind using the same frequency at t mobile.
I have a Samsung note 3 model num sm-n9000, and I want to use it on wind network which it is not allowing me to. Can you tell me the steps to take to allow my phone to accept wind frequency. thanks.
and please detailed, im new at this thing.
thanks
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According to the post directly above yours
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Confused! Basebands
I'm confused! Can someone help me to line up which Note 3 model can operate in FDD LTE/4G on 1, 3, 8, 11 and 20 basebands?
This thread is titled Note LTE 1700 and 2100 MHz, this is why I post my question here.
I have 2 operator contracts: Vodafone Italy and Softbank Japan. I'm looking for a phone that will work LTE on both.
Vodafone Italy uses 1700 and 2100 MHZ
Softbank in Japan uses 1700 and 2100 MHz.
Can anyone reccommend me the right Note 3 LTE model?
So far I have been advised to buy the N9005.
But it does not have 1700MHz.
Any idea? Thank you.
PS: the N9005 comes in all these MPN. Can anyone tell me what differences there are?
N9005ZKEXSI
N9005ZKEBTU
N9005ZWEBTU
N9005ZIEITV
N9005ZKEITV
N9005ZWEITV
N9005ZKEPHE
N9005ZKEDBT
N9005ZWEPHN
N9005ZKEPHN
StarTAC Fan said:
Well, I can hardly believe this. It even supports LTE 2600 Mhz which is available in many countries (including Canada's Bell and Rogers) and thus capable of the highest theoretical LTE speed where carrier supported.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
I became most interested in the T Mo version because it offered the greatest interoperability after considerable research on the FCC site. Now discovered that sweet bonus of 2600 Mhz
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That is great news, since I will be moving to Europe soon and will probably be able to use my SM-900T on their LTE network! :good:
StarTAC Fan said:
In summary - I'm not sure if this is the question you wanted answered - yes the T Mo version will work on the entire AT&T 2G (GSM), 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) and 4G (LTE) networks - whatever voice or data capabilities your AT&T plan requires. But the T Mo version has to be SIM (carrier) unlocked. From what I understand, this is the case.
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Will the ATT 900A work on the T mobile network LTE fully? Once SP unlocked that is. I thought the N900A was missing one LTE band that T mobile USA uses?
I am considering moving to T mobile and wife has an N900A currently that I would like to use on the t mobile network.
Thake a look on this pohone looks PROPER slim .. but specs are not good so this will be no go for me .. !
http://www.vivo.com.cn/vivo/x3/function.php
Any thinner and the usb wouldn't fit!
Its size from other two dimensions are bigger though. Its camera lens also sticks out.
I think this will get still better benchmark scores, even if it has only 1gb ram... Looks nice !
I like the fact that the return, home, etc.. buttons are on the phone itself and they don't have that hideous navigation bar (my only gripe about the P6) but a 5" screen with 1280x720 seems a bit low these days. LOL remember when 480x800 was amazing, it seems we are all obsessed with pixels and stuff these days.
LL13-
It's not for international market
It uses China-only 3G.
Looks like it only has 2G connectivity. No 3G (WCDMA).... "This phone only support GSM 2G network, NOT 3G WCDMA"
Shame as it looks quite nice, but only 1gb RAM..!?!
It HAS 3G but it won't work outside china unfortunately..
There are diff frequencies tho ..
2G EDGE/GPRS GSM850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G TD-SCDMA1880-1920MHz/2010-2025MHz
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-75mm-Th...?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item4615d30f71
BIG EDIT !!
Just received msg from seller and they said it WILL work in UK 3G soo .. eem I think .. haha you know what ..
Am going for white it is nice lovely mmm :laugh:
GalaxySIIII said:
It HAS 3G but it won't work outside china unfortunately..
There are diff frequencies tho ..
2G EDGE/GPRS GSM850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G TD-SCDMA1880-1920MHz/2010-2025MHz
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-75mm-Th...?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item4615d30f71
BIG EDIT !!
Just received msg from seller and they said it WILL work in UK 3G soo .. eem I think .. haha you know what ..
Am going for white it is nice lovely mmm :laugh:
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TD-SCDMA is used from China Mobile. In UK mobile operator used WCDMA(UTMS). 3G don't work in UK with this phone.
GalaxySIIII said:
It HAS 3G but it won't work outside china
Just received msg from seller and they said it WILL work in UK 3G soo .. eem I think .. haha you know what ..
Am going for white it is nice lovely mmm :laugh:
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Make sure your seller has refund policy.
I was aiming to buy the Vivo X3 while in Hong Kong, until I was reminded of the 3G system. I ended up buying P6 instead.
With 2GB memory. No regret.
alex.79 said:
TD-SCDMA is used from China Mobile. In UK mobile operator used WCDMA(UTMS). 3G don't work in UK with this phone.
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I asked ;
Does this phone has 3G network?
Will I be able to use in UK 3G ?
Do u have in white ?
Thnx
They Answered ;
yes, this phone has 3G network ,can be able to use in UK 3G (WCDMA).
We have in white.
waiting your reply
thanks
On Wiki site they said SCDMA is newer than WCDMA so it might downgrade ,, or I can set it in ntwrk options to WCDMA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TD-SCDMA
they says;
On March 28, 2008, China Mobile Group announced TD-SCDMA "commercial trials" for 60,000 test users in eight cities from April 1, 2008. Networks using other 3G standards (WCDMA and CDMA2000 EV/DO) had still not been launched in China, as these were delayed until TD-SCDMA was ready for commercial launch.
TD-SCDMA uses TDD, in contrast to the FDD scheme used by W-CDMA. By dynamically adjusting the number of timeslots used for downlink and uplink, the system can more easily accommodate asymmetric traffic with different data rate requirements on downlink and uplink than FDD schemes. Since it does not require paired spectrum for downlink and uplink, spectrum allocation flexibility is also increased. Using the same carrier frequency for uplink and downlink also means that the channel condition is the same on both directions, and the base station can deduce the downlink channel information from uplink channel estimates, which is helpful to the application of beamforming techniques.
TD-SCDMA also uses TDMA in addition to the CDMA used in WCDMA. This reduces the number of users in each timeslot, which reduces the implementation complexity of multiuser detection and beamforming schemes, but the non-continuous transmission also reduces coverage (because of the higher peak power needed), mobility (because of lower power control frequency) and complicates radio resource management algorithms.
You can't use because they are two different standard and radio module inside the phone not support a both at same time. They use different frequencies.
From WIKI:
TD-SCDMA was developed in the People's Republic of China by the Chinese Academy of Telecommunications Technology (CATT), Datang Telecom, and Siemens AG in an attempt to avoid dependence on Western technology. This is likely primarily for practical reasons, since other 3G formats require the payment of patent fees to a large number of Western patent holders.[4]
TD-SCDMA proponents also claim it is better suited for densely populated areas.[1] Further, it is supposed to cover all usage scenarios, whereas W-CDMA is optimised for symmetric traffic and macro cells, while TD-CDMA is best used in low mobility scenarios within micro or pico cells.[1]
TD-SCDMA is based on spread spectrum technology which makes it unlikely that it will be able to completely escape the payment of license fees to western patent holders. The launch of a national TD-SCDMA network was initially projected by 2005[5] but only reached large scale commercial trials with 60,000 users across eight cities in 2008.[6]
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alex.79 said:
You can't use because they are two different standard and radio module inside the phone not support a both at same time. They use different frequencies.
From WIKI:
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Yeah I have canceled offer yesterday ..
but today i got another msg of them that blue one and white one are different .. even they both are x3 .. (strange)
the blue one is thinner 5.75 and white is 5.95
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and i asked ; Please can u show me photos of network options of WCDMA and how is phone in English?
thnx
answer ; the phone has two card slots, one is for the 3G Card WCDMA ,and other one is for the gsm card.
we checked that there is no white color for 3G WCDMA, just this blue one, maybe one month later will be avaliable.
thanks
so that means white one doesnt support WCDMA just blue one does ?
GalaxySIIII said:
answer ; the phone has two card slots, one is for the 3G Card WCDMA ,and other one is for the gsm card.
we checked that there is no white color for 3G WCDMA, just this blue one, maybe one month later will be avaliable.
thanks
so that means white one doesnt support WCDMA just blue one does ?
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The would-be seller is either mis-informed or untrustworthy.
Two SIM cards, one for micro-SIM, the other for nano-SIM. Different size only. Both access the same TD-SCDMA system.
UpUpAndAway said:
The would-be seller is either mis-informed or untrustworthy.
Two SIM cards, one for micro-SIM, the other for nano-SIM. Different size only. Both access the same TD-SCDMA system.
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I've got another msg .. here ;
question ; Can just send me pictures of blue one in options that WCDMA is there? Thnx
answr ; sorry, we have no pictures, because we contacted with the factory ,they told us the WCDMA one is avaliable
thanks
Here is simple solution .. just we need wait .. cos obviously the manufacturer will be producing this piece for europe
X3 alongside p6
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2710086394
warea said:
X3 alongside p6
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2710086394
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Looks like P6 is thinner ? thing it white vivo x3 white is thicker than vivo x3 blue
Seller sent me more pics of options :
Just got another msg from seller ..
you no need to change it to WCDMA.
if you buy the WCDMA one,we will give you the WCDMA type, the phone number is VIVO X3.
the list you see now on ebay is VIVO X3T, it is TD-CDMA one.
the differene is just on hardware of the 3G Module, others is same.
VIvo Xplay 3S to be released on December 12 seems like a beast phone if not the best China phone in market for Winter season. But the pricing not yet known, needs to be competitive.