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[Q] Which (global) WP7 phones work on TMobile US with 3G?

Right now "officially" there are only the HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro available on TMobile USA.
Does anyone know which other phones would work (after unlocking) with 3G on TMO US?

er...none?

I think so far only these two WP7 devices supports AWS bands.
On other platforms is different, as in the case of latest High-End Nokia devices (but Symbian OS):
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2823&id2=2599&id3=2601&id4=2574&id5=2475&id6=2379
However it is a fact that the multi-band support, increases the cost. Is better to invest in features that do will be use
Best regards

Many WCDMA devices support the 1900 band, if you don't care the 1700 band.

but he asked about 3g...the phones don't offer 3g. Sure 2g works
3g nope

And consider 1700 AWS band with no longer be T-mo 3G after merger (AT&T needs the AWS band for LTE), you will be insane to spend $$$ on your own handset.
Even on AT&T side, there have been a lot of markets switched over to 850 band for 3G. So, even with a phone that support 1900 band 3G is no longer safe even on AT&T.

foxbat121 said:
And consider 1700 AWS band with no longer be T-mo 3G after merger (AT&T needs the AWS band for LTE), you will be insane to spend $$$ on your own handset.
Even on AT&T side, there have been a lot of markets switched over to 850 band for 3G. So, even with a phone that support 1900 band 3G is no longer safe even on AT&T.
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Depends where you live. I have Omnia 7 on AT&T so it only has 1900 band, and I don't even notice a difference in 3G from my last phone. I'm sure it's probably worse, but I get 3G almost everywhere.

DatDereX1 said:
Depends where you live. I have Omnia 7 on AT&T so it only has 1900 band, and I don't even notice a difference in 3G from my last phone. I'm sure it's probably worse, but I get 3G almost everywhere.
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In my area, all 3G towers were 1900. Then AT&T switched all of them to 850 last year. This year, they switched back to 1900 again. AT&T has indicated in the past that it intends to deploy more 850 band 3G to improve coverage.

I thought the 1900 towers would stay 1900, and new ones would be 850

Virtually all 3G-850 american handsets, also have 3G-1900 band. In other hand, the carriers such as Telstra (Australia) and Telcom New Zealand have also 3G-850, with 3G-2100 band (not 1900); but these last are a minority.
The AWS bands with WCDMA technology (3G), are only used by TMoUS (as we all know); and fatally these bands will be used by "new" Latin American carriers like Nextel Mexico and others like VTR and Nextel Chile.
No larger carrier exists than TMoUS, that use AWS bands, so that all developments in AWS bands, should be first implemented in TMoUS ...until now

DatDereX1 said:
I thought the 1900 towers would stay 1900, and new ones would be 850
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Aparently not. Install new towers cost $$$.

iusauser said:
Virtually all 3G-850 american handsets, also have 3G-1900 band. In other hand, the carriers such as Telstra (Australia) and Telcom New Zealand have also 3G-850, with 3G-2100 band (not 1900); but these last are a minority.
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That's true but most ppl who buy unlocked/unbranded handsets buy the European models which typically only come with 1900Mhz band 3G for NA. Those handsets rarely ever supports 850Mhz.

If I use unbranded ROMs on TMO I have gotten 4G on both my HD2 and 7.

thuddome said:
If I use unbranded ROMs on TMO I have gotten 4G on both my HD2 and 7.
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It's not the ROM but the actual hardware that has the limitation although sometimes ROMs can have band limits as well.

foxbat121 said:
It's not the ROM but the actual hardware that has the limitation although sometimes ROMs can have band limits as well.
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On both my HD2 and HD7 I will get an "H" signal. I was talking to T-Mobile support and they told me that was 4G and I was getting it because of the ROM. I asked why they would restrict the 4G if the hardware would do it and they said it was to control the number of devices on each network. I can only get it with an unbranded ROM. I'm not arguing, just telling you what they said. HD7 according to T-Mobile is NOT a 4G capable phone but mine gets an "H" signal all the time.

thuddome said:
On both my HD2 and HD7 I will get an "H" signal. I was talking to T-Mobile support and they told me that was 4G and I was getting it because of the ROM. I asked why they would restrict the 4G if the hardware would do it and they said it was to control the number of devices on each network. I can only get it with an unbranded ROM. I'm not arguing, just telling you what they said. HD7 according to T-Mobile is NOT a 4G capable phone but mine gets an "H" signal all the time.
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HSPA --> 'H' indicator on your handset (with custom ROM)
HSPA+ --> what T-Mobile advertises as "4G"
The H does not mean 4G. It means you have HSPA. In the carrier-specific ROMs they overwrite the H bitmap with one that shows 3G instead, to "help" their customers and avoid confusing them.

tai4de2 said:
HSPA --> 'H' indicator on your handset (with custom ROM)
HSPA+ --> what T-Mobile advertises as "4G"
The H does not mean 4G. It means you have HSPA. In the carrier-specific ROMs they overwrite the H bitmap with one that shows 3G instead, to "help" their customers and avoid confusing them.
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Good to know...thx

When LTE dominates, will importing phones still be possible?

Importing phones is obviously possible now because tons of carriers all over the world share AT&T's GSM and UMTS/HSPA bands.
When LTE starts to become the dominant source for cell-phone signals (especially when Voice-over-LTE appears), will AT&T still share bands with the rest of the world like it does now?
In other words, will AT&T still have the advantage over Vzw and T-Mobile that early adopters of phones will be able to import them and use them months before they show up in the US? Or will the proliferation of LTE cause AT&T to suffer from the same problem from which Verizon suffers: You will ONLY be able to use phones designed specifically for the AT&T network?
I ask because right now I have AT&T and Verizon, and I have unlimited data on both. I'm going to be canceling one of them within the next week or so. Right now I actually prefer AT&T's service, and I love the fact that I can import phones that are not available in the US. But if the "importing phones" advantage of AT&T disappears, perhaps Verizon becomes the more desirable carrier for me.

You haven't read much about LTE, I guess. By conforming to the LTE standards, a multi-band LTE phone will be able to be as much of a "world phone" as a multi-band GSM phone. While there are some differences in frequency spectrums around the planet, there are many in common.
The allocated frequencies are 700 and 1700 MHz in North America; 800, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia.
So, a quad-band LTE phone with frequencies of 700/1700/1800/2600 would get you coverage almost anywhere.
The end result is this: If the manufacturers want to make an LTE "world phone" just like they have in the past with GSM, they certainly can (within the laws of physics, if the antenna technologies will allow it). The same economics apply for the manufacturers, and possibly better - since there are a smaller set of frequencies with greater chance of coverage - and a greater market potential for a single design.
I suspect that with modern fractal antenna technology, this won't be a huge issue.

In North America, are the 700 and 1700 different carriers, or is it better for a phone to support both like the current att 850/1900?

¿GotJazz? said:
You haven't read much about LTE, I guess. By conforming to the LTE standards, a multi-band LTE phone will be able to be as much of a "world phone" as a multi-band GSM phone. While there are some differences in frequency spectrums around the planet, there are many in common.
The allocated frequencies are 700 and 1700 MHz in North America; 800, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia.
So, a quad-band LTE phone with frequencies of 700/1700/1800/2600 would get you coverage almost anywhere.
The end result is this: If the manufacturers want to make an LTE "world phone" just like they have in the past with GSM, they certainly can (within the laws of physics, if the antenna technologies will allow it). The same economics apply for the manufacturers, and possibly better - since there are a smaller set of frequencies with greater chance of coverage - and a greater market potential for a single design.
I suspect that with modern fractal antenna technology, this won't be a huge issue.
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Thanks. That was actually pretty helpful. But for instance, it is my understanding that AT&T runs in the low-700s, and Vzw runs in the high-700s. And Vzw has tentatively stated that its LTE phones will not be compatible with AT&T's. So I guess when you say they could make a multi-band LTE phone, it would need to cover "all of" 700 MHz for it to have both AT&T and Vzw compatibility.
In any event, does this favor AT&T or Vzw for future phones? My guess would be for at least the next several years, if not decade or more, all LTE phones will have 3G radios in them as well. And those 3G radios, just like today, are going to be GSM. So I guess you could start seeing phones world phones that are both quad-band GSM and quad-band LTE, and theoretically these would work on AT&T, but not Vzw.
Am I on the right path here? Do you agree that it seems likely at least until GSM/3G completely die (if ever), most/all LTE phones will continue to have 3G radios, and this would suggest that if anything, importing international phones will still be possible on AT&T but not Vzw?

chrikenn said:
Thanks. That was actually pretty helpful. But for instance, it is my understanding that AT&T runs in the low-700s, and Vzw runs in the high-700s. And Vzw has tentatively stated that its LTE phones will not be compatible with AT&T's. So I guess when you say they could make a multi-band LTE phone, it would need to cover "all of" 700 MHz for it to have both AT&T and Vzw compatibility.
In any event, does this favor AT&T or Vzw for future phones? My guess would be for at least the next several years, if not decade or more, all LTE phones will have 3G radios in them as well. And those 3G radios, just like today, are going to be GSM. So I guess you could start seeing phones world phones that are both quad-band GSM and quad-band LTE, and theoretically these would work on AT&T, but not Vzw.
Am I on the right path here? Do you agree that it seems likely at least until GSM/3G completely die (if ever), most/all LTE phones will continue to have 3G radios, and this would suggest that if anything, importing international phones will still be possible on AT&T but not Vzw?
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Almost every LTE deployment other than VZW runs alongside an existing 3GPP (GSM) network and most all chipsets will natively support the combination. Therefore, I doubt you will see many devices without the UMTS radios. No one is turning their 3G networks off any time soon. Verizon will be one of very few sources for LTE devices WITHOUT any other GSM radios.
As for LTE frequencies, there are A LOT of them. What chipsets will support which radio combinations is still a subject of much debate. Don't expect full interop out of the box.

You can always import regardless
the only risk you face is all the different LTE radio bands that you might or might not get with certain phones
chrikenn said:
Importing phones is obviously possible now because tons of carriers all over the world share AT&T's GSM and UMTS/HSPA bands.
When LTE starts to become the dominant source for cell-phone signals (especially when Voice-over-LTE appears), will AT&T still share bands with the rest of the world like it does now?
In other words, will AT&T still have the advantage over Vzw and T-Mobile that early adopters of phones will be able to import them and use them months before they show up in the US? Or will the proliferation of LTE cause AT&T to suffer from the same problem from which Verizon suffers: You will ONLY be able to use phones designed specifically for the AT&T network?
I ask because right now I have AT&T and Verizon, and I have unlimited data on both. I'm going to be canceling one of them within the next week or so. Right now I actually prefer AT&T's service, and I love the fact that I can import phones that are not available in the US. But if the "importing phones" advantage of AT&T disappears, perhaps Verizon becomes the more desirable carrier for me.
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Does the Galaxy Nexus LTE version also support the Penta-Band GSM bands for international travel?
Verizon version = GSM + LTE?
Sorry I'm a noob at Verizon's ways.

player911 said:
Does the Galaxy Nexus LTE version also support the Penta-Band GSM bands for international travel?
Verizon version = GSM + LTE?
Sorry I'm a noob at Verizon's ways.
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Don't think so. Verizon version = CDMA + LTE. So it will only work in the US, on Verizon.

chrikenn said:
Don't think so. Verizon version = CDMA + LTE. So it will only work in the US, on Verizon.
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I always thought that Verizon always had bands for international travel also? I mean not really a big deal. Verizon is the clear winner for coverage nationally and since my work is paying for it, its even sweeter.
Right now I just have a blackberry

player911 said:
I always thought that Verizon always had bands for international travel also? I mean not really a big deal. Verizon is the clear winner for coverage nationally and since my work is paying for it, its even sweeter.
Right now I just have a blackberry
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It's possible that the Verizon version has GSM/UMTS radios, it's also possible that it has those but are disabled somehow. We really don't know all that much about the LTE version of this phone, we don't even know the exact dimensions of it and what battery it comes with. So we'll just have to wait until it passes through the FCC or is released.

Chirality said:
It's possible that the Verizon version has GSM/UMTS radios, it's also possible that it has those but are disabled somehow. We really don't know all that much about the LTE version of this phone, we don't even know the exact dimensions of it and what battery it comes with. So we'll just have to wait until it passes through the FCC or is released.
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+1 for storming Google HQ
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

Chirality said:
It's possible that the Verizon version has GSM/UMTS radios, it's also possible that it has those but are disabled somehow. We really don't know all that much about the LTE version of this phone, we don't even know the exact dimensions of it and what battery it comes with. So we'll just have to wait until it passes through the FCC or is released.
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I do recall seeing a negatory on the world phone status in Verizon's inventory system. And I suppose there is still the option for dormant or disabled radios but I ain't holding my breath.

specs conflicts

i've researched this phone for sometime now and i've noticed many contradictions and confusions with specs from different websites online
1- lt28h is the NON LTE model, official white paper says that it has the hspa+ bands 850/900/1700/1900/2100 with download speeds of 42Mbps
( 4g capable which isnt brought up anywhere) also the 1700mhz band is omitted from all major review and seller websites that i've seen, i
emailed gsmarena and they just fixed it (1700/2100 as of now will run T mobile USA 3g/4g until re frame is done )
2- lt28i has hspa+ bands 850/1700/1900/2100 and LTE 700/1700 from white paper, which also all websites that i came across omit the hspa+
1700mhz band which with 2100 can run t mobile hspa with download speeds up to 21.1Mbps and future LTE development
3- many reviews and sellers are confusing the 3 versions lt28i (international with LTE) lt28at ( at&t locked, hspa+ Bands 850/1900/2100, LTE
700/1700) and lt28h ( international hspa+ 850/900/1700/1900/2100, non LTE)
4- sony store lists the battery for lt28at as 1500mAh Vs ("1900mAh typical and 1840mAh minimum") for lt28i and lt28h
hopefully this clears things up a bit, all specs are available at sony white papers
any insight or corrections are welcome

shangoof said:
i've researched this phone for sometime now and i've noticed many contradictions and confusions with specs from different websites online
1- lt28h is the NON LTE model, official white paper says that it has the hspa+ bands 850/900/1700/1900/2100 with download speeds of 42Mbps
( 4g capable which isnt brought up anywhere) also the 1700mhz band is omitted from all major review and seller websites that i've seen, i
emailed gsmarena and they just fixed it (1700/2100 as of now will run T mobile USA 3g/4g until re frame is done )
2- lt28i has hspa+ bands 850/1700/1900/2100 and LTE 700/1700 from white paper, which also all websites that i came across omit the hspa+
1700mhz band which with 2100 can run t mobile hspa with download speeds up to 21.1Mbps and future LTE development
3- many reviews and sellers are confusing the 3 versions lt28i (international with LTE) lt28at ( at&t locked, hspa+ Bands 850/1900/2100, LTE
700/1700) and lt28h ( international hspa+ 850/900/1700/1900/2100, non LTE)
4- sony store lists the battery for lt28at as 1500mAh Vs ("1900mAh typical and 1840mAh minimum") for lt28i and lt28h
hopefully this clears things up a bit, all specs are available at sony white papers
any insight or corrections are welcome
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Sent my contact at Sony an email to see if he can't clear up the issues regarding battery size on the LT28at and whether or not the LT28i supports 1700/2100 (and if it does, does the LT28at also support those bands even though its carrier locked)

Okay just got an email back. The website listing the ion with a 1500mAh battery is a typo. Should be 1930mAh. He will check on the network bands (1700/2100) and is gonna see if there is a white paper for the LT28at specifically.
His thinking and mine was that AT&T just didn't want people to see that the LT28at had T-Mobile supported network bands.
Will let you know what more I hear.
Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk 2

White paper for the LT28at - https://docs.google.com/open?id=0ByrrmqPijqISXy1KYTRZdER1Mzg
White paper doesn't list the 1700 band but my friend is gonna check still.

Received a new version today of the white paper: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0ByrrmqPijqISM2dBcFpwNUpaTG8

thank you for all the info
so there is quite a bit of wrong information spread across major cell phone websites, engadget, cnet, gsmarena, phone arena...
so lt28i can run t-mobile hspa+ at 21/5.8 Mbps and is future proof for lte
lt28at is at&t locked and what is sold through sony store in usa
lt28h is the non lte model and would run on t mobile hspa+ at 42/5.8 Mbps
maybe the failed at&t/t-mobile merger explains how the lt28i was available for a while and then a revised at&t version had to be done

Spectre51 said:
Okay just got an email back. The website listing the ion with a 1500mAh battery is a typo. Should be 1930mAh. He will check on the network bands (1700/2100) and is gonna see if there is a white paper for the LT28at specifically.
His thinking and mine was that AT&T just didn't want people to see that the LT28at had T-Mobile supported network bands.
Will let you know what more I hear.
Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk 2
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I have this hardware test app and it tells me battery is 1930... And the tmobile compatibilty is confirmed, but this phone is att locked so maybe if we can get it unlocked we can use it with tmobile too, but as lomg as i know this is only a standard of America's network
Sent from my LT28at

mehran_o0o said:
I have this hardware test app and it tells me battery is 1930... And the tmobile compatibilty is confirmed, but this phone is att locked so maybe if we can get it unlocked we can use it with tmobile too, but as lomg as i know this is only a standard of America's network
Sent from my LT28at
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What hardware test app?

Just wondering. If all versions actually have 1700/2100 bands, would it be more beneficial to purchase the lt28i over the lt28h and be able to run it on an AWS network like t-mobile?

momaru said:
Just wondering. If all versions actually have 1700/2100 bands, would it be more beneficial to purchase the lt28i over the lt28h and be able to run it on an AWS network like t-mobile?
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Yes because the LT28i can be purchased unlocked but the LT28at can't be and there are no ways to unlock it currently.

I had the same problem when I was shopping for the LT28i. I was really hoping it was 850/900/1900/2100. GSM arena seemed to be the source of this misinformation and it spread to eBay. I emailed many sellers and they refused to look at the box to check since it is printed on there. I checked Sony Taiwan's website (the only place the LT28i was sold at the time) and it said 850/900/1900/2100 so I took a gamble. I was wrong. It is, as you say, 850/1700/1900/2100, making it the weirdest band frequency ever. A bit of a disappointment for me since I live in Sweden and my provider had 900 coverage, but whatever. Their 2100 is perfectly fine.
If you want more confirmation, I attached a screenshot of the configuration info screen from my LT28i.
UMTS 1: 2100
UMTS 2: 1900
UMTS 4: 1700/2100 AWS
UMTS 5: 850
LTE 4: 1700/2100 AWS
LTE 17: 700 (AT&T)
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mroach said:
I had the same problem when I was shopping for the LT28i. I was really hoping it was 850/900/1900/2100. GSM arena seemed to be the source of this misinformation and it spread to eBay. I emailed many sellers and they refused to look at the box to check since it is printed on there. I checked Sony Taiwan's website (the only place the LT28i was sold at the time) and it said 850/900/1900/2100 so I took a gamble. I was wrong. It is, as you say, 850/1700/1900/2100, making it the weirdest band frequency ever. A bit of a disappointment for me since I live in Sweden and my provider had 900 coverage, but whatever. Their 2100 is perfectly fine.
If you want more confirmation, I attached a screenshot of the configuration info screen from my LT28i.
UMTS 1: 2100
UMTS 2: 1900
UMTS 4: 1700/2100 AWS
UMTS 5: 850
LTE 4: 1700/2100 AWS
LTE 17: 700 (AT&T)
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You missed the second entry on your picture where it says GSM900.

Spectre51 said:
What hardware test app?
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I have antutu and zdevice test and norton utility
Sent from my LT28at

popfan said:
You missed the second entry on your picture where it says GSM900.
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I meant I was missing UMTS 900, not GSM. My carrier is a 3G-only network with UMTS 900/2100.

so this model has 1700/2100? i've been looking for xperia's with this band.

mrd7rs said:
so this model has 1700/2100? i've been looking for xperia's with this band.
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the lt28i and the lt28h do, i just ordered the lt28i waiting on shipping now, paid $525 shipping included

mroach said:
I had the same problem when I was shopping for the LT28i. I was really hoping it was 850/900/1900/2100. GSM arena seemed to be the source of this misinformation and it spread to eBay. I emailed many sellers and they refused to look at the box to check since it is printed on there. I checked Sony Taiwan's website (the only place the LT28i was sold at the time) and it said 850/900/1900/2100 so I took a gamble. I was wrong. It is, as you say, 850/1700/1900/2100, making it the weirdest band frequency ever. A bit of a disappointment for me since I live in Sweden and my provider had 900 coverage, but whatever. Their 2100 is perfectly fine.
If you want more confirmation, I attached a screenshot of the configuration info screen from my LT28i.
UMTS 1: 2100
UMTS 2: 1900
UMTS 4: 1700/2100 AWS
UMTS 5: 850
LTE 4: 1700/2100 AWS
LTE 17: 700 (AT&T)
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What? Weird. The LT28i is available here. No UMTS BC8 (900)? Oh my. Might as well check the Sony shop here if they will release the LT28h variant. I don't know if my carrier is using the 900 band for HSPA. Fingers crossed that it is 2100.
I might encounter a problem with that 900 band when in roaming, too.

where did you purchase your phone?
Sent from my Xperia X10 using xda app-developers app

zangetsu2188 said:
What? Weird. The LT28i is available here. No UMTS BC8 (900)? Oh my. Might as well check the Sony shop here if they will release the LT28h variant. I don't know if my carrier is using the 900 band for HSPA. Fingers crossed that it is 2100.
I might encounter a problem with that 900 band when in roaming, too.
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Relative to the other major UMTS bands, 900 is scarcely used. Nearly all operators of UMTS 900 networks primarily operate a UMTS 2100 network and they're using 900 for rural coverage or to augment urban coverage for the purposes of building penetration and capacity.
My home network (3 Sweden) has a 900 network but as far as I can tell I'm not missing out on anything by having the LT28i. My last couple phones had 900 and I'm not noticing any difference.

mrd7rs said:
where did you purchase your phone?
Sent from my Xperia X10 using xda app-developers app
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I got it from Overseas electronics

Galaxy Note 3 AWS 1700/2100 Users Thread (T-mobile, Windmobile, Mobilicity)

Hi All,
Just a thread to keep notes regarding our specific carrier needs, for now it's mostly to keep track of the release dates and availability elsewhere for Notes 3 models that are AWS compatible.
This thread will eventually evolved into Tips & Hints, Unlocking, Radio/ROM to flash, etc.
Tmo has finally updated their Notes 3 page; $704 full retail price
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-3.html
Specifications:
CPU:
2.3 GHz Snapdragon Quad Core Processor
Display:
Super AMOLED™ HD 1080p Screen
Size and Weight
5.95 x 3.12 x 0.33 inches
5.9 ouncess
Operating System:
Android 4.3 (Jelly Bean)
Estimated Battery Life:
3200 mAh Battery
15 hours talk time
12 days standby time
Memory:
3GB RAM
32GB ROM
Connectivity:
Sync methods: USB, WiFi, Bluetooth, DLNA,NFC
4G Capable (up to 42Mbps)
Wi-Fi and Mobile Calling
Radios:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Hearing Aid Compatibility:
M3 & T3
In The Box:
Galaxy Note 3
Battery
Charger
Headset
Features:
Visual Voicemail
S-Pen
Swype
Speakerphone
Stereo Bluetooth® Connectivity
Samsung Media Hub
Proximity Sensor
Panorama Mode
Near Field Communication
Memory Card Slot (microSD)
LTE Capable
LED Camera Flash
720p & 1080p HD Camcorder
Google Voice Search™
Google Play™
Full corporate Exchange e-mail and calendar support
Front-facing 2 MP Camera
3.5mm audio jack
Alarm clock
Autofocus
Backlit Camera Sensor
BurstShot™
Bluetooth 4.0
Calculator
Calendar
Conference Calling
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it used to be a place holder page with vague spec, now it finally has some pictures on it with more info and pre-order
No news yet from Windmobile / Mobilicity

What does quad band gsm mean? Well it work on the at&t gsm only network if I get it unlocked, like straight talk etc
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noob question
sorry for the nooby question but i have been w8 a long time for the note 3 and now that its finally coming i feel left out.. i use wind and i really like it but they wouldn't give me any useful information about their plans for note 3. so i'm looking for help here, t-mobile has the preorder open and i was thinking of getting that, i live in canada so would i be able to preorder from t-mobile?? if it is would that note 3 work with wind?? and what model is t-mobile selling. thanks

Supports other carriers' frequencies as as well as LTE 2600 Mhz!
In addition to the tech specs cited by the OP from the products section, here is another "official" page from T-Mobile in their support section.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-9056
Specifically, I am interested in roaming and network interoperation capabilities. So from that link, here it is for anyone else if also interested.
Tech specs: Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Network
3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
3G/UMTS: Band I (UMTS 2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100/AWS), Band V (850)
LTE: Band 4, Band 17, Band 1(2100), Band 2(1900), 5(850), 7(2600)
As you can see, it includes every 2G/3G/4G frequency on AT&T (but AT&T's Notes 3 does not reciprocate), some on Verizon 4G (Band 4 but not their Band 13 700 Mhz which is different than AT&T's Band 17 700 MHz), and Sprint's 2G/3G and Band 2 1900 MHz 4G.
Well, I can hardly believe this. It even supports LTE 2600 Mhz which is available in many countries (including Canada's Bell and Rogers) and thus capable of the highest theoretical LTE speed where carrier supported.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
I became most interested in the T Mo version because it offered the greatest interoperability after considerable research on the FCC site. Now discovered that sweet bonus of 2600 Mhz.
[Q] Which USA Note 3 Variant to get? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45794297#post45794297
The TMo, Wind, Mobi version is the best in terms of using in other carriers' networks. That is not only in terms of the radio but traditionally, T Mo has not locked the bootloader. It's my undertanding the TMo version will come SIM-unlocked too.

snoopycr said:
What does quad band gsm mean? Well it work on the at&t gsm only network if I get it unlocked, like straight talk etc
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It refers to the following 4 frequencies: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz. The frequencies are not universally supported by the world's carriers. In North America, the 850 and 1900 are used, while Europe for example uses 900 and 1800. Usage in other regions vary. But to have "quad band GSM" capability means global compatibility, at least on 2G networks, and is therefore desirable.
GSM itself and closely associated technologies EDGE and GPRS (if it's GSM, then EDGE and GPRS are automatically implied) is also referred to 2G that preceded the 3G and 4G we are now using but backward compatible with 2G. Thus 3G and 4G phones such as the Galaxy Note 3 we are talking about here will work on the AT&T GSM network (which by the way uses 850 and 1900 Mhz frequencies) in addition to (I think this is your confusion) to AT&T's 3G and 4G frequencies.
Any modern, unlocked phones nowadays that has GSM capability will be quad band. So 2G is not an issue - any version of the phone will work on any carrier's 2G network. However, if you want to use AT&T's 3G and 4G network, you have to get a version of the phone that supports AT&T's 3G and/or 4G network. Only AT&T's version of the Note 3 (as well as T-Mobile's version for reasons pointed out above) will wholly work on AT&T's 3G and 4G networks.
In summary - I'm not sure if this is the question you wanted answered - yes the T Mo version will work on the entire AT&T 2G (GSM), 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) and 4G (LTE) networks - whatever voice or data capabilities your AT&T plan requires. But the T Mo version has to be SIM (carrier) unlocked. From what I understand, this is the case.
husainh said:
sorry for the nooby question but i have been w8 a long time for the note 3 and now that its finally coming i feel left out.. i use wind and i really like it but they wouldn't give me any useful information about their plans for note 3. so i'm looking for help here, t-mobile has the preorder open and i was thinking of getting that, i live in canada so would i be able to preorder from t-mobile?? if it is would that note 3 work with wind?? and what model is t-mobile selling. thanks
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WIND has traditionally used whatever version T-Mobile has used as they were exactly compatible with the WIND network and because WIND is too small of a company to impose their own specification on Samsung. They use the closet matching US model just like Bell, Rogers and Telus would use the AT&T version. Click on my link to [Q] Which USA Note 3 Variant to get? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45794297#post45794297 and you will see the various model numbers of the Note 3. The "T" version is what WIND should carry (T for T Mobile surprise surprise) although the WIND Note 3 may come in their own orange retail box. Please note that WIND has traditionally SIM (carrier) locked their phones - you probably already know this but that means if you take it to the US, it'll roam on T-Mobile with WIND billing you. But if you did want to insert a T Mobile SIM, then you'd have to unlock it which, although can be done, would invalidate the warranty.
Also note that WIND doesn't use the quad GSM frequencies because it doesn't have a 2G network. It never built one because it started only in I think 2008 timeframe. Nor does it yet have a 4G network. So in Canada, it will use only the 3G 1700/2100 (AWS) capabilities of the T Mobile model. That's what I was talking about by WIND choosing the closet matching model for US carriers. But that's okay because if WIND does obtain part of that 700 MHz spectrum being auctioned by the CRTC, then their Note 3 would be 4G ready.
You're on WIND yet interested in the T Mo model because T Mo is taking pre-oders. Are you not aware WIND is also taking pre-orders since about September 23 through their Facebook account? https://www.facebook.com/WINDmobile/app_632884196731950

Also wind version going be octa core
Edit: it's official wind mobile getting s800 processor I feel disappointed that they mislead us on Facebook
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Welcome fellow Canadians!
Seeing as the Galaxy Note 3 is going to be released in Canada very shortly (October 4th), I figured we should get some discussion going on where you're buying, and any speculations to price points.
I just got off of a chat with Telus, regarding an email I had received, offering $50 off a device when you sign a contract, OR, stay month-to-month. So you can save a bit of money for those who are purchasing the phone outright, or even signing up for a new contract. You need to call a special sales line: 1-877-279-3900
Also, while she couldn't officially confirm, the rep did tell me that she would strongly suggest I go to a corporate store on Friday.. Obviously this is just in case there are shipping delays (doubtful) but I think that it's quite safe to say that it's coming out on Friday!
Currently, Wind Mobile is the only carrier to officially announce their pricing, but I think that it would be safe to say that the other carriers will be in line (roughly) with Wind.
- WIND 40: $449
- WIND 30: $549
- WIND 33: $549
- WIND 20: $649
- Outright: $749
I was also able to "confirm" with the rep, that the price point for Telus would probably fall around $799, so that isn't too far off of Wind's pricing.
Discuss anything related to the Canadian launch of the Note 3! :laugh:
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original source from http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/28/w...laxy-note-3-on-october-4th-heres-the-pricing/

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samsung note 3 - international n9000 version
Hi, I understand the whole concept of wind using the same frequency at t mobile.
I have a Samsung note 3 model num sm-n9000, and I want to use it on wind network which it is not allowing me to. Can you tell me the steps to take to allow my phone to accept wind frequency. thanks.
and please detailed, im new at this thing.
thanks

rminhas said:
Hi, I understand the whole concept of wind using the same frequency at t mobile.
I have a Samsung note 3 model num sm-n9000, and I want to use it on wind network which it is not allowing me to. Can you tell me the steps to take to allow my phone to accept wind frequency. thanks.
and please detailed, im new at this thing.
thanks
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According to the post directly above yours
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Confused! Basebands
I'm confused! Can someone help me to line up which Note 3 model can operate in FDD LTE/4G on 1, 3, 8, 11 and 20 basebands?

This thread is titled Note LTE 1700 and 2100 MHz, this is why I post my question here.
I have 2 operator contracts: Vodafone Italy and Softbank Japan. I'm looking for a phone that will work LTE on both.
Vodafone Italy uses 1700 and 2100 MHZ
Softbank in Japan uses 1700 and 2100 MHz.
Can anyone reccommend me the right Note 3 LTE model?
So far I have been advised to buy the N9005.
But it does not have 1700MHz.
Any idea? Thank you.
PS: the N9005 comes in all these MPN. Can anyone tell me what differences there are?
N9005ZKEXSI
N9005ZKEBTU
N9005ZWEBTU
N9005ZIEITV
N9005ZKEITV
N9005ZWEITV
N9005ZKEPHE
N9005ZKEDBT
N9005ZWEPHN
N9005ZKEPHN

StarTAC Fan said:
Well, I can hardly believe this. It even supports LTE 2600 Mhz which is available in many countries (including Canada's Bell and Rogers) and thus capable of the highest theoretical LTE speed where carrier supported.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
I became most interested in the T Mo version because it offered the greatest interoperability after considerable research on the FCC site. Now discovered that sweet bonus of 2600 Mhz
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That is great news, since I will be moving to Europe soon and will probably be able to use my SM-900T on their LTE network! :good:

StarTAC Fan said:
In summary - I'm not sure if this is the question you wanted answered - yes the T Mo version will work on the entire AT&T 2G (GSM), 3G (UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA) and 4G (LTE) networks - whatever voice or data capabilities your AT&T plan requires. But the T Mo version has to be SIM (carrier) unlocked. From what I understand, this is the case.
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Will the ATT 900A work on the T mobile network LTE fully? Once SP unlocked that is. I thought the N900A was missing one LTE band that T mobile USA uses?
I am considering moving to T mobile and wife has an N900A currently that I would like to use on the t mobile network.

V30 Canadian version H933

So far we know the model H933 and that it will come in cloud silver (maybe other colours but website only shows one for now). Also we may not get the V30+ but that is not a big deal since its only more storage.
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones...PiB8PZcedjEkB_zhzUhWH3xmuQHSgsf4aAqHrEALw_wcB
Pricing and release date is still up in the air. My guess is at least $899 or maybe $999. Let hope the former.
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
I will try to modify and update this post as more information becomes available.
Are you getting one???

milan187 said:
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
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If you want bootloader unlocked in Canada, it's the same situation like the LG G6. You will have to get the U.S. carrier unlocked version of the LG V30, which is eligible for official bootloader unlock. It will have all the U.S./Canadian bands.
Here's the LG G6 US997 carrier unlocked bands below. See, if you live in Canada, you would be fine.
U.S. LG G6 CARRIER UNLOCKED
Communications
CDMA 2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
GSM 2G GSM, GPRS, EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
CDMA 3G CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25 Bands
Wi-Fi Yes, 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
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The carrier unlocked LG V30 will be released probably mid-October, AFTER all the carrier branded models. It will work with all carriers and won't be locked to any. It MAY even have the T-mobile LTE 71 band...in addition to all the bands listed above. But it will at least have all the bands the U.S. carrier unlocked LG G6 has.
LG V30 US998.
Set a Google alert for that model number.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html?email=
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ChazzMatt said:
If you want bootloader unlocked in Canada, it's the same situation like the LG G6. You will have to get the U.S. carrier unlocked version of the LG V30, which is eligible for official bootloader unlock. It will have all the U.S./Canadian bands.
Here's the LG G6 US997 carrier unlocked bands below. See, if you live in Canada, you would be fine.
U.S. LG G6 CARRIER UNLOCKED
The carrier unlocked LG V30 will be released probably mid-October, AFTER all the carrier branded models. It will work with all carriers and won't be locked to any. It MAY even have the T-mobile LTE 71 band...in addition to all the bands listed above. But it will at least have all the bands the U.S. carrier unlocked LG G6 has.
LG V30 US998.
Set a Google alert for that model number.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html?email=
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From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.

jcsww said:
From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.
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it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.

ChazzMatt said:
it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.
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Hmmm. I have seen 66, 69, and now 71. I don't care which one it is, I just want to make sure the phone I am considering has it.
Personally, I would ultimately like the dual-SIM version but I value T-Mobile WiFi Calling quite a bit. With one T-Mobile USA SIM and one Telus Canada SIM. I would like to ditch the two phones being carried.

jcsww said:
Hmmm. I have seen 66, 69, and now 71. I don't care which one it is, I just want to make sure the phone I am considering has it.
Personally, I would ultimately like the dual-SIM version but I value T-Mobile WiFi Calling quite a bit. With one T-Mobile USA SIM and one Telus Canada SIM. I would like to ditch the two phones being carried.
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https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
T-Mobile calls 600 MHz LTE BAND 71.
Band 66 is something entirely different. You can read about both there.

milan187 said:
So far we know the model H933 and that it will come in cloud silver (maybe other colours but website only shows one for now). Also we may not get the V30+ but that is not a big deal since its only more storage.
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones...PiB8PZcedjEkB_zhzUhWH3xmuQHSgsf4aAqHrEALw_wcB
Pricing and release date is still up in the air. My guess is at least $899 or maybe $999. Let hope the former.
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
I will try to modify and update this post as more information becomes available.
Are you getting one???
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Im debating a v30 or a note 8 but want to compare both in hand first.
Neither will be the CAN version since i dont waste money on devices with locked bootloaders
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force70 said:
Im debating a v30 or a note 8 but want to compare both in hand first.
Neither will be the CAN version since i dont waste money on devices with locked bootloaders
sent from my Note FE or S8 Plus (exynos)
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Personally the note 8 is to big and the "artist" side is not for me. I need the best audio. And now rumors for axon 8 are starting so I'm starting to hesitate a bit between the two.

nitramus said:
And now rumors for axon 8 are starting so I'm starting to hesitate a bit between the two.
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Also rumors are ZTE is skipping the 8 label and will call it the Axon 9. To be announced in October.
Yeah, I'm curious about it also. See this page, page 13 of the thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
This post in particular:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=73686747

jcsww said:
From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.
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Never listen to carrier reps. They are often clueless.
U.S. carrier unlocked version (US998) will have T-mobile's 600 Mhz LTE band 71.
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
Confirmed by T-mobile via Twitter. Thanks to @starscalling for giving us the info. I found the Twitter post he saw.
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
He says you can buy it "directly from LG unlocked", but you can also buy it online from other retailers like B&H Photo, Amazon, etc. It's the same LG G6 US998 U.S. unlocked carrier model. IF it makes you feel better to buy it from LG, that's fine.
Since we KNOW the U.S. carrier unlocked version will also qualify for LG's REAL bootloader unlock (unlike T-mobile's faux bootloader unlock on the LG G6) THAT is the one to buy.

ChazzMatt said:
Never listen to carrier reps. They are often clueless.
U.S. carrier unlocked version (US998) will have T-mobile's 600 Mhz LTE band 71.
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
Confirmed by T-mobile via Twitter. Thanks to @starscalling for giving us the info. I found the Twitter post he saw.
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
He says you can buy it "directly from LG unlocked", but you can also buy it online from other retailers like B&H Photo, Amazon, etc. It's the same LG G6 US998 U.S. unlocked carrier model. IF it makes you feel better to buy it from LG, that's fine.
Since we KNOW the U.S. carrier unlocked version will also qualify for LG's REAL bootloader unlock (unlike T-mobile's faux bootloader unlock on the LG G6) THAT is the one to buy.
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Hopefully a custom ROM can add the WiFi Calling into the US998 then. I do use it and found it to be the only reliable way to get working cell service on a cruise.

Only thing that sucks about buying the US unlocked model is warranty right?

milan187 said:
Only think that sucks about buying the US unlocked model is warranty right?
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I never think about the warranty. I am in the US for half of the year so getting warranty service, if needed, shouldn't be an issue.

jcsww said:
I never think about the warranty. I am in the US for half of the year so getting warranty service, if needed, shouldn't be an issue.
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For you it works out I guess.
I had to get warranty repairs for both my Pixel and LG G6 recently.

milan187 said:
For you it works out I guess.
I had to get warranty repairs for both my Pixel and LG G6 recently.
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In some cases, the US warranty is valid in North America. Until the device is released though, only LG can confirm the warranty terms.
I bought a Nexus 6P for my girlfriend in Canada from Telus that she uses on AT&T in the US. When she registered the device, it issued her the full US warranty.

according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/

Matrix_19 said:
according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/
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Sounds about right. That would be $810 U.S. (current currency value as of this moment), but it never translates exactly to the same exact figure, when it goes on sale in other countries. And they would do "$999" or $995" Canadian, not "$1000". Sales psychology.
For U.S. then would be $799, $849, etc. But $1000 Canadia ($810 U.S.) is in the same ballpark as other rumored prices. Over in South Korea, $846 or something but of course tweaked for their currency sweet spot.

Matrix_19 said:
according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/
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That's probably a guestimate because Telus is not carrying the V30 unfortunately. Freedom Mobile is the only carrier I am aware of definitely getting it. The V20 when it came out last year was about $950 through them but I have asked already. No pricing or the specific model they will carry as of yet.

ChazzMatt said:
it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.
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Mind providing a link to that discussion?
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eventhorizon13 said:
Mind providing a link to that discussion?
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Sure, this was the original discussion. But let me explain a couple of things.
First, most OEMs manufacture phones in the most efficient way. For instance, people have been able to enable LTE bands on some phones from Samsung, LG, Sony, etc. because apparently those OEMs first enable all LTE bands (sort of a global phone), then use software to RESTRICT what they don't want for various carriers or regions.
Add Frequency Bands to Your Qualcomm Device
Those of you who travel quite a bit undoubtedly own more than one device due to frequency band restrictions put in place by both carriers / OEMs, as well as local regulatory agencies. It’s common to find regional variants of pretty much the same devices from Sony, LG, Samsung, and other OEMs. And of course, these companies want to turn a profit, so they often sell multiple devices rather than one that can switch between all of its hardware-supported frequency bands. Surprisingly, most phones works pretty well with frequency bands that are not officially supported. In fact, this is often just a software limitation that can be circumvented with tools available on XDA.
If you want to add frequency bands, you need to prepare yourself for lots of reading. The process is not as easy as simply rooting, and requires some tools like QPST and QXDM.
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This is not a new concept. A quick Google search shows more. But that above is from an XDA article, which is developer-centric.
But it's not simply using QPST or QXDM to "enable" those bands, the hardware (antennas) also has to be available. On the Moto XT1225, which I own, many people tried to enable European LTE band 20 but it didn't work for one reason because the antenna didn't support that band. In software, it showed it was enabled but there was no way to transmit or receive that frequency due to lack of antenna support.
Now... what's more realistic? That LG would make a separate AT&T, T-mobile, Sprint, Verizon models -- plus all the Canadian carriers, all with different antennas? -- one make ONE "North America" template and then in a final stage lock out what each carrier doesn't need? The HINT is that they are already going to release a U.S. (actually North America) "carrier unlocked" model weeks after the carrier-branded models -- the LG V30 US 998.
Logic would show for manufacturing efficiency, THIS is really the base model the carriers are selling, including T-mobile. Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile and all the Canadian carriers are getting a customized variation of THIS US998. It's just their branded versions have the bands enabled/disabled they specifically need.
Then, the US998 will have ALL the U.S./Canadian bands enabled -- probably including LTE band 71. If it didn't, then it really wouldn't be full "carrier unlocked" version.
Twice, the "management" Twitter account of T-mobile seemingly said the "carrier unlocked" version would have LTE band 71. Which was encouraging.
Then the "customer service" (T-mobile Help) Twitter account has questioned that. Which I laugh at. Customer service reps are typically clueless about what unlocking really means, and also they can't speak for LG. They can only speak for T-Mobile product and usually using scripts to go by. [emoji14] I know more than they do how OEMs like LG make phones. Plus, T-Mobile wants you to buy a T-mobile branded phone, not a carrier unlocked phone straight from LG or some other retailers.
But LG doesn't need T-Mobile "permission" for what LG does with a carrier unlocked version not sold or serviced by T-Mobile.
So, based on past experience and knowledge of the industry, I would bet all the North American LG V30 phones have the same hardware (antennas), and that the carrier unlocked version will either have LTE band 71 at release or hopefully it can be enabled by devs. Here's the discussion link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351