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HTC Sense Messages Application??

My wife's EVO is getting really slow when using the stock Sense Messages Application. She has thousands of texts... I've tried everything to try to delete them but the application keeps crashing in the process. I've even gone to the Applications menu item to the Messages Application and cleared data. It told me that all the data would be erased. I went back into the application and they are all still there.
I need to get this thing cleared out... Why is it so difficult? How do I delete them?
I'm thinking my only option is to do a factory data reset. I've searched google and this forum and haven't found any answers but a lot of people with the same problems.
I'm getting scared cause she came from an iPhone and she's starting to regret it.

Mine crashed also, at least it wouldn't let me open pictures.
Just for giggles try downloading handcent from the market and see if it will let you delete the messages.

generalExpert said:
My wife's EVO is getting really slow when using the stock Sense Messages Application. She has thousands of texts... I've tried everything to try to delete them but the application keeps crashing in the process. I've even gone to the Applications menu item to the Messages Application and cleared data. It told me that all the data would be erased. I went back into the application and they are all still there.
I need to get this thing cleared out... Why is it so difficult? How do I delete them?
I'm thinking my only option is to do a factory data reset. I've searched google and this forum and haven't found any answers but a lot of people with the same problems.
I'm getting scared cause she came from an iPhone and she's starting to regret it.
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try "sms Manager" from the market.. works great on my evo..

OK, I figured it out. There must be a timer that the application uses which alerts to forceclose because the app is not responding. However if I hit "wait" over and over it will eventually delete what I want.
I don't know why it's taking so long to delete a thread of texts... A thread of just 200 texts can take like 5 min to delete.

that is AOSP/Android as a whole is glaringly terrible. IOS and even my BB curve could delete months of texts extremely faster with terrible os and hardware
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OK, I figured it out. There must be a timer that the application uses which alerts to forceclose because the app is not responding. However if I hit "wait" over and over it will eventually delete what I want.
I don't know why it's taking so long to delete a thread of texts... A thread of just 200 texts can take like 5 min to delete.
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xlGmanlx said:
that is AOSP/Android as a whole is glaringly terrible. IOS and even my BB curve could delete months of texts extremely faster with terrible os and hardware
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I would definitely disagree with android being "terrible". This problem could be directly related to htc sense/messaging app, or who knows what. I highly doubt this is related to the OS itself. I guess I could be wrong though.

try it on any AOSP rom, pretty sure its a function of the OS, could be wrong
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I would definitely disagree with android being "terrible". This problem could be directly related to htc sense/messaging app, or who knows what. I highly doubt this is related to the OS itself. I guess I could be wrong though.
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I have the same issue on my evo, but if I just wait it out it eventually deletes them. My friend has a hero and it took him 4 hours to delete several thousand texts...I'm curious why it takes so long.
Also I was terribly annoyed by how laggy the stock messaging was, so I tried handcent, and that was just as laggy. Then I tried chompsms and it runs a bit faster. Plus it's customizable so you can make it look however you want it to

If her phone is rooted you can use this option.
The fastest way to delete messages granted this will delete every message you have but it works.
use root explorer or
es file explorer and in the setting go to root options and have root explorer checked. ( you need to have a rooted phone to do this.
go to the root of the phone you will have many folders called data, sys, system, etc.
navigate to
data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases
in that folder you will see a
mmssms.db
this has MMS and SMS. now you can delete it or move it to the SD Card just make it so its not in that directory any more.
Now reboot the phone and every text and pic mail will be gone as if you deleted it.
Hope this can help some of you.
On another note this can also be away for you to restore all your messages. just take the old mmssms.db file and replace it and reboot the phone and all your texts will be restored.
Reason why it take so long is because it has to rewrite a database when each text is deleted so lets say you have 3 texts this is what it will do.
delete the first text
write a new database
delete next text
write a new database
delete last text
write a new database
it does that to every text.
hope this helps someone if not you all.
enjoy.
DC13

WOW. Thank you for all that information. Completely makes sense.

dc13 said:
If her phone is rooted you can use this option.
The fastest way to delete messages granted this will delete every message you have but it works.
use root explorer or
es file explorer and in the setting go to root options and have root explorer checked. ( you need to have a rooted phone to do this.
go to the root of the phone you will have many folders called data, sys, system, etc.
navigate to
data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases
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Ok, I know you said to use those two apps but I tried to look in that data folder with Astro and there was nothing inside...
Does Astro not work for this?

No astro does not. ill pm you when i get home of a app that works sorry it wont be sooner.

[Q] How do you delete HUGE text threads!?!?!

i have been lazy and got behide on text messages and now i have a couple really big threads some around 900 and another around 1200 and the biggest at 4500 text messages! I currently use handcent and ever time i try to delete it the phone locks up and takes forever to complete if it dosent freeze first, I have done some searchin around and there are a few apps people reccommend but they all tend to have the same outcome of freezing up, and found that just Android in general is just really poor at completing this task, and some say that its just HTC sense and not really android..but does anyone one kno how to delete very large text threads???

I would try settings>applications>manage applications and clear cache and data. This will wipe the entire application and leave you with a clean slate.

MBeattie said:
I would try settings>applications>manage applications and clear cache and data. This will wipe the entire application and leave you with a clean slate.
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just tried that, and nope that doesnt work...i wiped data on messages and on handcent and it did nothing

There is an ADB method out there somewhere. Look for it. Google something like "xda android delete all sms adb"
However if you have locked messages and want to keep them (as I did last week), what I did was put my phone on charge overnight, airplane mode, and deleted them. It took about 45 minutes to delete 7k messages.

exSD said:
There is an ADB method out there somewhere. Look for it. Google something like "xda android delete all sms adb"
However if you have locked messages and want to keep them (as I did last week), what I did was put my phone on charge overnight, airplane mode, and deleted them. It took about 45 minutes to delete 7k messages.
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the adb/root explorer way would delete all of your messages, not just some.
It is done by deleting the file located in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db

freeza said:
the adb/root explorer way would delete all of your messages, not just some.
It is done by deleting the file located in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
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trying this one now.......

BAttitude7689 said:
trying this one now.......
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NOPE! that didnt work either, I even rebooted and still had all the text messages there..

Sounds like your doing anything you can. If its not too hard for you, wipe the entire ROM and set it back up. My normal setup time on a new ROM is max 5 minutes after flash. I'm thinking that might work.

BAttitude7689 said:
NOPE! that didnt work either, I even rebooted and still had all the text messages there..
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Now that's odd. That is the exact way I delete all my messages every month to avoid the freezing you're talking about and it works for me....
You should try the following.......
-Boot into recovery
-Mount /data (if you're using Amon_RA 2.2.1, just go to the mounts section and mount data)
-Launch adb shell
-navigate to /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases by doing:
--cd data
--cd data
--cd com.android.providers.telephony
--cd databases
--rm mmssms.db
-navigate to /data/data/com.android.mms/cache by doing:
--cd ..
--cd ..
--cd com.android.mms
--cd cache
--rm *
-Reboot
Very strange that deleting and rebooting from within Android doesn't fix it. It does for me.

make sure you hit force delete (handcent - wipes both area's mms.apk and app)as that has better results. This is an android wipe issue and its embarrassing how long it takes. on my BB or my old iphone i could do it in seconds
BAttitude7689 said:
i have been lazy and got behide on text messages and now i have a couple really big threads some around 900 and another around 1200 and the biggest at 4500 text messages! I currently use handcent and ever time i try to delete it the phone locks up and takes forever to complete if it dosent freeze first, I have done some searchin around and there are a few apps people reccommend but they all tend to have the same outcome of freezing up, and found that just Android in general is just really poor at completing this task, and some say that its just HTC sense and not really android..but does anyone one kno how to delete very large text threads???
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Just delete the thread through the messaging app. Leave it sit for a while, up to an hour or so, and dont touch anything. Just let it do its thing. If you try to do anything else, it will FC and wont work. You just have to let it sit.

BAttitude7689 said:
i have been lazy and got behide on text messages and now i have a couple really big threads some around 900 and another around 1200 and the biggest at 4500 text messages! I currently use handcent and ever time i try to delete it the phone locks up and takes forever to complete if it dosent freeze first, I have done some searchin around and there are a few apps people reccommend but they all tend to have the same outcome of freezing up, and found that just Android in general is just really poor at completing this task, and some say that its just HTC sense and not really android..but does anyone one kno how to delete very large text threads???
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You're doing it. You can go from the main messages menu push and hold on a contact and click force delete, or menu and do a batch delete. The phone freezing is normal because it deletes them basically 1-3 at a time, so it take a little bit. So just be patient and try not to let them pile up next time . And speaking from experience here.

auto delete works wonders

What is this?
aimbdd said:
auto delete works wonders
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Disregard.....didn't mean to go O/T.

xlGmanlx said:
What is this?
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it's a feature that auto-deletes your apps.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

xlGmanlx said:
What is this?
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Probably the auto delete function for HTC MMS.apk. Deletes messages after a certain set number or something.

How does that help with deleting SMS threads?
thedudejdog said:
it's a feature that auto-deletes your apps.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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xlGmanlx said:
How does that help with deleting SMS threads?
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that's like saying, "how does changing my oil help me swap out my blown engine?"
it avoids the problem all together
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

It will keep it from happening again. It deletes the oldest messages in a thread when it reaches a limit you set. Almost all messaging apps have it.

Default application misbehavior

Because I googled almos everything now, I have to ask here.
Did anyone have a problem with constantly apearing question about which application would like you to use even when you checked "always" about hundred times before?
It seems to happen every time but some cases when you do something again and again. When you stop, wait a while or do something else and then do the same again, you will be prompted again which application to use.
it makes me CRAZY!!! It lasts about a month and I HATE MY PHONE because of this. Imagine this while driving! %^&*$
Anyone, please help me.
I'm running LeeDroid 3.3.3 GingerBread (stable one) and it seems not connected to the system coz it started much later than flashing occured. I suppose that one of installed apps could break something or even the bloody market (it often "stucks" while getting pages - reboot makes it working again - and I have no problems with network - nope).

Noone knows anything about it?

If you've installed a new app which does the same thing as an app you already had, you'll have to reset the defaults again (e.g. if you install Opera browser, you'll have to choose which browser to use the first time you click a link from any app (i.e. the first link you click from the browser, the first link you click from within an email, the first link you click from within Tweetdeck, the first link you click from the search tool, the first link you click from a text message, the first... you get the idea). But once you've selected 'Always' that default should persist until you clear defaults/uninstall the app/install another app that has the same functions.
However, a brief moment spent Googling has led to the suggestion that defaults only persist where the app is stored on the phone memory. Have you moved the apps in question to your SD card by any chance? Try moving them back and see if that helps.

hopscotchjunkie said:
If you've installed a new app which does the same thing as an app you already had, you'll have to reset the defaults again (e.g. if you install Opera browser, you'll have to choose which browser to use the first time you click a link from any app (i.e. the first link you click from the browser, the first link you click from within an email, the first link you click from within Tweetdeck, the first link you click from the search tool, the first link you click from a text message, the first... you get the idea). But once you've selected 'Always' that default should persist until you clear defaults/uninstall the app/install another app that has the same functions.
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Exactly. And that's what i need to achieve. Mine "always" is ignored almost always.
hopscotchj said:
However, a brief moment spent Googling has led to the suggestion that defaults only persist where the app is stored on the phone memory. Have you moved the apps in question to your SD card by any chance? Try moving them back and see if that helps.
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Did not moved any of them, I like them in the phone memory as long, as it's only 55% full yet.
I suppose the problem is in storing the default. Something resets it or storage isn't available in time I'm making decision. But WHY? Or HOW? I cannot even guess, because I don't know specifics about storing default programs values... where or how they are stored.

krzych said:
Exactly. And that's what i need to achieve. Mine "always" is ignored almost always.
Did not moved any of them, I like them in the phone memory as long, as it's only 55% full yet.
I suppose the problem is in storing the default. Something resets it or storage isn't available in time I'm making decision. But WHY? Or HOW? I cannot even guess, because I don't know specifics about storing default programs values... where or how they are stored.
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I am not sure what file it is either but it sounds like the file gets corrupted so it reverts to a default. This can be caused from restoring system files, not doing a full wipe before flashing, a corrupted rom flash and backup, and like you said an app resetting it. So many things ciuld have gone wrong. I would try and start from a clean base. It may be a long road but it is the only 100% way to find it for sure.

zelendel said:
So many things ciuld have gone wrong. I would try and start from a clean base. It may be a long road but it is the only 100% way to find it for sure.
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How about additional info: application called "Home Switcher" which is supposed to know either default and possibilities, displays possibilities but claims that there is no default set at all!
I think that you have right that many things may be broken, but I'm almost sure that if it's somewhere in database file then only this database file needs a "reset". Why? Because I run this system daily and I'm almost sure that nothing in global is broken. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
So, any informations how default apps are stored on the system would help.

Great, no help at all. I suppose I will have to flash new rom to get rid of this another google sh*t.

I cannot be the only one with this problem!

I have posted this in several ROM threads as well as the Android Q&A, with not a single response.
This is what I get in the T9 dialer on ANY 4.2.1 ROM. If I tap "loading" it takes me to the contact list, I then hit the 'back' softkey and it takes me back to the dialer with the contact name displayed instead of 'loading'.

Why dont you wait for it to stop loading before you tap it? Do you have a lot of contacts? Because I dont and mine doesn't even display "loading" when dialing.

jsgraphicart said:
Why dont you wait for it to stop loading before you tap it? Do you have a lot of contacts? Because I dont and mine doesn't even display "loading" when dialing.
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I have let it sit for up to 5 minutes and it stays at 'loading'. I have maybe 100 total contacts between my 2 Gmail accounts.

RyanTX said:
I have let it sit for up to 5 minutes and it stays at 'loading'. I have maybe 100 total contacts between my 2 Gmail accounts.
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Hmm. Well I dont have that problem. Right when I press a number, the first contact it finds a match to pops right up. I'm running CM 10.1. Maybe it has something to do with the multiple Gmail accounts? I dont see why it would but its the only thing I can think of.

I don't have any issues with the stock dialer either, didn't even know there is a "loading" screen there. I use EX though cause I got use to the swipe left to text / right to call function.

Since you've given us no clue as to what you may have already tried, I'm going to start with the obvious...
I'm guessing you have either corrupt data from restoring via TiBu etc, in which case I would recommend deleting data from the app and rebooting; or you have permissions issues, in which case I would fix permissions via ROM manager and reboot...

that is pretty odd.
i once had my duplicate contacts resulting in about 300+ and i never seen that loading thing before.
i've run through boat loads of 4.2.1 roms and never seen that either.
perhaps you should check how your gmail accounts are synced in settings?
maybe go to www.google.com/contacts and see whatsup there>?
edit- agree with danger-rate
go to recovery->wipe cache->wipe dalvik cache->fix permissions->reboot

danger-rat said:
Since you've given us no clue as to what you may have already tried, I'm going to start with the obvious...
I'm guessing you have either corrupt data from restoring via TiBu etc, in which case I would recommend deleting data from the app and rebooting; or you have permissions issues, in which case I would fix permissions via ROM manager and reboot...
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I don't restore anything from TiBu or any other backup program. I can try to fix permissions in CWM. I have run MMuzzy, Xenon, BAMF, CNA, and a few others. All of them do this on the T9 dialer. When I go between ROMs I wipe everything and start fresh.

RyanTX said:
I don't restore anything from TiBu or any other backup program. I can try to fix permissions in CWM. I have run MMuzzy, Xenon, BAMF, CNA, and a few others. All of them do this on the T9 dialer. When I go between ROMs I wipe everything and start fresh.
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Try fix permissions using ROM Manager.
CWM takes about 2 seconds, and gives you zero feedback. I'm not even sure it does anything.
RM takes about a minute, and tells you exactly what it's doing.
Wipe data from the app itself (long press the app in the recent used list and look at the app info). Wiping Dalvik won't do anything for this...

danger-rat said:
Try fix permissions using ROM Manager.
CWM takes about 2 seconds, and gives you zero feedback. I'm not even sure it does anything.
RM takes about a minute, and tells you exactly what it's doing.
Wipe data from the app itself (long press the app in the recent used list and look at the app info). Wiping Dalvik won't do anything for this...
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Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a shot and let you know the results.

jt.one said:
that is pretty odd.
i once had my duplicate contacts resulting in about 300+ and i never seen that loading thing before.
i've run through boat loads of 4.2.1 roms and never seen that either.
perhaps you should check how your gmail accounts are synced in settings?
maybe go to www.google.com/contacts and see whatsup there>?
edit- agree with danger-rate
go to recovery->wipe cache->wipe dalvik cache->fix permissions->reboot
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I just went to the Google contacts page and nothing looks wrong. I haven't had this problem since 4.2.1. I don't have a clue, it just seems odd I would be the ONLY person to have this issue.

Even after a rom manager fix permissions I still have the same problem.

Just to say its not only you OP I get this from time to time with no idea why,seems to be a rare problem,if I get it fixed will be sure to post the solution

Question Caller name does not show

Hello all. I am using red magic 6 global version 12/128. When i get call, only number seems but not name. The number and name is registered but it does not show the name. How can i fix this? Thank you so much and greetings all.

jirain21 said:
Hello all. I am using red magic 6 global version 12/128. When i get call, only number seems but not name. The number and name is registered but it does not show the name. How can i fix this? Thank you so much and greetings all.
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After the call name is showing in history and also when i am calling someone its ok, but when i get call it does not show the name

Check permissions. Disable power management.
Clear system cache.
Try clearing app data (make sure contacts are backed up first).
Clear sim toolkit data.
Seems to be a lot of firmware/software glitches with these lines in general though. One reason I avoid them.

blackhawk said:
Check permissions. Disable power management.
Clear system cache.
Try clearing app data (make sure contacts are backed up first).
Clear sim toolkit data.
Seems to be a lot of firmware/software glitches with these lines in general though. One reason I avoid them.
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I made everyting except power management, now i made it too. Hope it works thank you

Just found out the solution. Im sorry but its soooo stupid. Just turn off the VOLTE and here you go.

jirain21 said:
Just found out the solution. Im sorry but its soooo stupid. Just turn off the VOLTE and here you go.
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can u help me bro i have the same problem, i turned off VOLTE from mobile networks but my contacts still dont show