[Q] How do you delete HUGE text threads!?!?! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i have been lazy and got behide on text messages and now i have a couple really big threads some around 900 and another around 1200 and the biggest at 4500 text messages! I currently use handcent and ever time i try to delete it the phone locks up and takes forever to complete if it dosent freeze first, I have done some searchin around and there are a few apps people reccommend but they all tend to have the same outcome of freezing up, and found that just Android in general is just really poor at completing this task, and some say that its just HTC sense and not really android..but does anyone one kno how to delete very large text threads???

I would try settings>applications>manage applications and clear cache and data. This will wipe the entire application and leave you with a clean slate.

MBeattie said:
I would try settings>applications>manage applications and clear cache and data. This will wipe the entire application and leave you with a clean slate.
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just tried that, and nope that doesnt work...i wiped data on messages and on handcent and it did nothing

There is an ADB method out there somewhere. Look for it. Google something like "xda android delete all sms adb"
However if you have locked messages and want to keep them (as I did last week), what I did was put my phone on charge overnight, airplane mode, and deleted them. It took about 45 minutes to delete 7k messages.

exSD said:
There is an ADB method out there somewhere. Look for it. Google something like "xda android delete all sms adb"
However if you have locked messages and want to keep them (as I did last week), what I did was put my phone on charge overnight, airplane mode, and deleted them. It took about 45 minutes to delete 7k messages.
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the adb/root explorer way would delete all of your messages, not just some.
It is done by deleting the file located in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db

freeza said:
the adb/root explorer way would delete all of your messages, not just some.
It is done by deleting the file located in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
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trying this one now.......

BAttitude7689 said:
trying this one now.......
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NOPE! that didnt work either, I even rebooted and still had all the text messages there..

Sounds like your doing anything you can. If its not too hard for you, wipe the entire ROM and set it back up. My normal setup time on a new ROM is max 5 minutes after flash. I'm thinking that might work.

BAttitude7689 said:
NOPE! that didnt work either, I even rebooted and still had all the text messages there..
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Now that's odd. That is the exact way I delete all my messages every month to avoid the freezing you're talking about and it works for me....
You should try the following.......
-Boot into recovery
-Mount /data (if you're using Amon_RA 2.2.1, just go to the mounts section and mount data)
-Launch adb shell
-navigate to /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases by doing:
--cd data
--cd data
--cd com.android.providers.telephony
--cd databases
--rm mmssms.db
-navigate to /data/data/com.android.mms/cache by doing:
--cd ..
--cd ..
--cd com.android.mms
--cd cache
--rm *
-Reboot
Very strange that deleting and rebooting from within Android doesn't fix it. It does for me.

make sure you hit force delete (handcent - wipes both area's mms.apk and app)as that has better results. This is an android wipe issue and its embarrassing how long it takes. on my BB or my old iphone i could do it in seconds
BAttitude7689 said:
i have been lazy and got behide on text messages and now i have a couple really big threads some around 900 and another around 1200 and the biggest at 4500 text messages! I currently use handcent and ever time i try to delete it the phone locks up and takes forever to complete if it dosent freeze first, I have done some searchin around and there are a few apps people reccommend but they all tend to have the same outcome of freezing up, and found that just Android in general is just really poor at completing this task, and some say that its just HTC sense and not really android..but does anyone one kno how to delete very large text threads???
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Just delete the thread through the messaging app. Leave it sit for a while, up to an hour or so, and dont touch anything. Just let it do its thing. If you try to do anything else, it will FC and wont work. You just have to let it sit.

BAttitude7689 said:
i have been lazy and got behide on text messages and now i have a couple really big threads some around 900 and another around 1200 and the biggest at 4500 text messages! I currently use handcent and ever time i try to delete it the phone locks up and takes forever to complete if it dosent freeze first, I have done some searchin around and there are a few apps people reccommend but they all tend to have the same outcome of freezing up, and found that just Android in general is just really poor at completing this task, and some say that its just HTC sense and not really android..but does anyone one kno how to delete very large text threads???
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You're doing it. You can go from the main messages menu push and hold on a contact and click force delete, or menu and do a batch delete. The phone freezing is normal because it deletes them basically 1-3 at a time, so it take a little bit. So just be patient and try not to let them pile up next time . And speaking from experience here.

auto delete works wonders

What is this?
aimbdd said:
auto delete works wonders
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Disregard.....didn't mean to go O/T.

xlGmanlx said:
What is this?
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it's a feature that auto-deletes your apps.
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xlGmanlx said:
What is this?
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Probably the auto delete function for HTC MMS.apk. Deletes messages after a certain set number or something.

How does that help with deleting SMS threads?
thedudejdog said:
it's a feature that auto-deletes your apps.
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xlGmanlx said:
How does that help with deleting SMS threads?
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that's like saying, "how does changing my oil help me swap out my blown engine?"
it avoids the problem all together
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It will keep it from happening again. It deletes the oldest messages in a thread when it reaches a limit you set. Almost all messaging apps have it.

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HTC Sense Messages Application??

My wife's EVO is getting really slow when using the stock Sense Messages Application. She has thousands of texts... I've tried everything to try to delete them but the application keeps crashing in the process. I've even gone to the Applications menu item to the Messages Application and cleared data. It told me that all the data would be erased. I went back into the application and they are all still there.
I need to get this thing cleared out... Why is it so difficult? How do I delete them?
I'm thinking my only option is to do a factory data reset. I've searched google and this forum and haven't found any answers but a lot of people with the same problems.
I'm getting scared cause she came from an iPhone and she's starting to regret it.
Mine crashed also, at least it wouldn't let me open pictures.
Just for giggles try downloading handcent from the market and see if it will let you delete the messages.
generalExpert said:
My wife's EVO is getting really slow when using the stock Sense Messages Application. She has thousands of texts... I've tried everything to try to delete them but the application keeps crashing in the process. I've even gone to the Applications menu item to the Messages Application and cleared data. It told me that all the data would be erased. I went back into the application and they are all still there.
I need to get this thing cleared out... Why is it so difficult? How do I delete them?
I'm thinking my only option is to do a factory data reset. I've searched google and this forum and haven't found any answers but a lot of people with the same problems.
I'm getting scared cause she came from an iPhone and she's starting to regret it.
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try "sms Manager" from the market.. works great on my evo..
OK, I figured it out. There must be a timer that the application uses which alerts to forceclose because the app is not responding. However if I hit "wait" over and over it will eventually delete what I want.
I don't know why it's taking so long to delete a thread of texts... A thread of just 200 texts can take like 5 min to delete.
that is AOSP/Android as a whole is glaringly terrible. IOS and even my BB curve could delete months of texts extremely faster with terrible os and hardware
generalExpert said:
OK, I figured it out. There must be a timer that the application uses which alerts to forceclose because the app is not responding. However if I hit "wait" over and over it will eventually delete what I want.
I don't know why it's taking so long to delete a thread of texts... A thread of just 200 texts can take like 5 min to delete.
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that is AOSP/Android as a whole is glaringly terrible. IOS and even my BB curve could delete months of texts extremely faster with terrible os and hardware
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I would definitely disagree with android being "terrible". This problem could be directly related to htc sense/messaging app, or who knows what. I highly doubt this is related to the OS itself. I guess I could be wrong though.
try it on any AOSP rom, pretty sure its a function of the OS, could be wrong
generalExpert said:
I would definitely disagree with android being "terrible". This problem could be directly related to htc sense/messaging app, or who knows what. I highly doubt this is related to the OS itself. I guess I could be wrong though.
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I have the same issue on my evo, but if I just wait it out it eventually deletes them. My friend has a hero and it took him 4 hours to delete several thousand texts...I'm curious why it takes so long.
Also I was terribly annoyed by how laggy the stock messaging was, so I tried handcent, and that was just as laggy. Then I tried chompsms and it runs a bit faster. Plus it's customizable so you can make it look however you want it to
If her phone is rooted you can use this option.
The fastest way to delete messages granted this will delete every message you have but it works.
use root explorer or
es file explorer and in the setting go to root options and have root explorer checked. ( you need to have a rooted phone to do this.
go to the root of the phone you will have many folders called data, sys, system, etc.
navigate to
data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases
in that folder you will see a
mmssms.db
this has MMS and SMS. now you can delete it or move it to the SD Card just make it so its not in that directory any more.
Now reboot the phone and every text and pic mail will be gone as if you deleted it.
Hope this can help some of you.
On another note this can also be away for you to restore all your messages. just take the old mmssms.db file and replace it and reboot the phone and all your texts will be restored.
Reason why it take so long is because it has to rewrite a database when each text is deleted so lets say you have 3 texts this is what it will do.
delete the first text
write a new database
delete next text
write a new database
delete last text
write a new database
it does that to every text.
hope this helps someone if not you all.
enjoy.
DC13
WOW. Thank you for all that information. Completely makes sense.
dc13 said:
If her phone is rooted you can use this option.
The fastest way to delete messages granted this will delete every message you have but it works.
use root explorer or
es file explorer and in the setting go to root options and have root explorer checked. ( you need to have a rooted phone to do this.
go to the root of the phone you will have many folders called data, sys, system, etc.
navigate to
data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases
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Ok, I know you said to use those two apps but I tried to look in that data folder with Astro and there was nothing inside...
Does Astro not work for this?
No astro does not. ill pm you when i get home of a app that works sorry it wont be sooner.

[Q] Help! All text messages gone!

So I went to bed last night, had my phone plugged in to my laptop charging and I got a text around midnight. it woke me up, I read it, put my phone back down and went to sleep. I just woke up and looked at my phone and the ONLY text message I have at all is now that text. All text before (thousands) are gone, deleted... I checked my crunchSMS and "messages" and there's just the one message in both. I'm using MYN's newest and everything else seems to be accounted for. Please let me know if there is any way to restore my texts (other than my backup, I got some important texts yesterday) Please let me know if you guys can think of anything.
ericmcintire said:
So I went to bed last night, had my phone plugged in to my laptop charging and I got a text around midnight. it woke me up, I read it, put my phone back down and went to sleep. I just woke up and looked at my phone and the ONLY text message I have at all is now that text. All text before (thousands) are gone, deleted... I checked my crunchSMS and "messages" and there's just the one message in both. I'm using MYN's newest and everything else seems to be accounted for. Please let me know if there is any way to restore my texts (other than my backup, I got some important texts yesterday) Please let me know if you guys can think of anything.
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You had just woken up and probably deleted them by accident. I'm sorry but I can't think of any way to recover them.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
My late night texts usually get me out of bed. But as handacap said once thryre gone, thats it.
HondaCop said:
You had just woken up and probably deleted them by accident. I'm sorry but I can't think of any way to recover them.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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I don't think that's what happened... could someone that easily delete every text they had?
ericmcintire said:
I don't think that's what happened... could someone that easily delete every text they had?
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Menu | Delete All
Easily can happen when you are messing around with the phone right after waking up and not being completely awake.
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I doubt you deleted them all by accident. I've had this happen to me twice now as well. Had you noticed the SMS program being sluggish lately? Both times it has happened to me I've had thousands upon thousands of SMS in the database and the app had slowed to a crawl. I think the app freaks out and corrupts the database or something which results in it just trashing the whole thing and recreating it from zero. Android already has an issue with the messaging app pulling up the wrong conversation/contact once in a while, for it to hose the whole database isn't much of a stretch from there lol.
The stock HTC messaging app doesn't even have a delete all option. You would have to go Menu -> Delete -> and then manually select each individual conversation in order to delete everything.
deathsled said:
The stock HTC messaging app doesn't even have a delete all option. You would have to go Menu -> Delete -> and then manually select each individual conversation in order to delete everything.
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Ouch, that sucks man. That's why I use ChompSMS.
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Same thing just happened to me right after installing the new juice defender
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There's an SMS backup that syncs to GMail. The app is free in the market. I would use that next time.
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This also happened to me like two days ago.
really quite lame...lost a lot of photos
The same thing has happened to me twice now. Thousands of messages gone. It happened today for no reason. I put my phone on silent while in an interview and when I got out I had one new text and all of the rest were gone. Total Bullsh!t!
I love deleting all of my texts, do it a few more times and you will feel free.
gqstatus0685 said:
There's an SMS backup that syncs to GMail. The app is free in the market. I would use that next time.
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i use SMS Backup and Restore. I have it configured to do automatic backups of my messages once a week, so at the worst i will lose one week work of messages in the event something goes wrong.
SMS Backup+ I have it set to back em up every hour.

storage of text messages.

anyone know where the text messages are stored?????? my girl has like 20,000 texts.. and when trying to delete.. it just bombs out, bc it takes so damn long.
Can you delete threads vs all texts?
no.. samething..
Having that many texts will cause her phone to lag a lot. If her phone is rooted, you can adb in the text database and delete the smsmms.db file....or the slower but less work way is to download "Delete old messages" from the market. It will delete them one by one so it might take about 30 minutes for 20k messages, but its no work.
slackwaresupport said:
anyone know where the text messages are stored?????? my girl has like 20,000 texts.. and when trying to delete.. it just bombs out, bc it takes so damn long.
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They are in data/data/com.android.telephony or something of the sort
Under "databases" folder
freeza said:
They are in data/data/com.android.telephony or something of the sort
Under "databases" folder
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/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
Its a database file so if you're trying to LOOK at it, it wont work without a db viewer. You can however delete it up from terminal like this:
rm /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db

[Q] Delete old text messages

Is there a way to delete messages by date? I've tried backing up and restoring them using SMS backup and restore and set a date but they all came back. If I try to delete threads my phone locks up. I have about 20,000 texts
I wish there was a way to see them through windows explorer and delete them that way... I can't get anything to open. Ah!!!
If you use SMS backup and you use your gmail to sign in. You can go into gmail from your comp.(probably your phone) abs you can delete them by date that way.
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monkeypaws said:
If you use SMS backup and you use your gmail to sign in. You can go into gmail from your comp.(probably your phone) abs you can delete them by date that way. This is what it looks like on my gmail app. Its under labels. On the comp it'll be on the labels on the left hand side.
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That's a copy though. My phone has locked up and had to been forced off like 6 times now. There are too many to delete it just freezes. I set a limit in go SMS days ago and it never deletes any. This is ridiculous.
And now go SMS pro won't open either. And the phone can't force close it. The whole thing just locks up wtf.
psykhotic said:
That's a copy though. My phone has locked up and had to been forced off like 6 times now. There are too many to delete it just freezes. I set a limit in go SMS days ago and it never deletes any. This is ridiculous.
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It doesn't sync. Hmm. I guess my assumption was wrong .
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psykhotic said:
And now go SMS pro won't open either. And the phone can't force close it. The whole thing just locks up wtf.
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Wait. How many SMS programs are you syncing to? You said SMS backup. Then go SMS. ? Do you have backups to both?
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SMS backup & restore makes an XML file on my external SD. Go SMS pro shouldn't be backing anything up.
I use the stock app to send MMS because go uploads it to their servers and that creeps me out lol. But the stock app CANNOT handle that many texts being there.
Go is working a little better (I can send a text) now that I went in recovery and cleared cache, davik and fixed permissions.
I still think I need to try and get rid of old texts but every time I try programs just lock up.
Have you tried History eraser?
Or delete data for it. Just dump them all.
psykhotic said:
SMS backup & restore makes an XML file on my external SD. Go SMS pro shouldn't be backing anything up.
I use the stock app to send MMS because go uploads it to their servers and that creeps me out lol. But the stock app CANNOT handle that many texts being there.
Go is working a little better (I can send a text) now that I went in recovery and cleared cache, davik and fixed permissions.
I still think I need to try and get rid of old texts but every time I try programs just lock up.
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Well I have SMS backup +. It syncs all my SMS, call logs, etc with Google. I don't have any XML in my phone. Whenever I restore my phone I DL the app and sign in and hit restore and it pulls it from my Google account. That's what I was showing you earlier. But I'd have to test if it actually syncs when I erase from gmail to the app.
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vopezy said:
Have you tried History eraser?
Or delete data for it. Just dump them all.
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History eraser or historyeraser?? I'll try! But I don't know if it'll work. On SMS backup & restore I hit delete all messages and after an hour the little circle was still spinning.
Can someone please tell me where the texts are stored. Any app just freezes my phone and I have to reboot.
I'd love to watch you drag this along for two more days but I think I speak for everyone on this site. Just factory reset your phone and get over it.
vopezy said:
I'd love to watch you drag this along for two more days but I think I speak for everyone on this site. Just factory reset your phone and get over it.
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That would have been extremely moronic to do. I just deleted the SMS database. I also got in touch with the backup & restore people about batch removing texts from the XML output.
What a stupid suggestion.
Hey man I've had this happen to me. It happened when I would flash a new rom, and didn't turn off the auto delete after 200 and then restored my 7k texts... Honestly once in a while I'd get lucky and be able to usually... I had to re flash the ROM. Haven't found a better solution yet
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I cannot be the only one with this problem!

I have posted this in several ROM threads as well as the Android Q&A, with not a single response.
This is what I get in the T9 dialer on ANY 4.2.1 ROM. If I tap "loading" it takes me to the contact list, I then hit the 'back' softkey and it takes me back to the dialer with the contact name displayed instead of 'loading'.
Why dont you wait for it to stop loading before you tap it? Do you have a lot of contacts? Because I dont and mine doesn't even display "loading" when dialing.
jsgraphicart said:
Why dont you wait for it to stop loading before you tap it? Do you have a lot of contacts? Because I dont and mine doesn't even display "loading" when dialing.
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I have let it sit for up to 5 minutes and it stays at 'loading'. I have maybe 100 total contacts between my 2 Gmail accounts.
RyanTX said:
I have let it sit for up to 5 minutes and it stays at 'loading'. I have maybe 100 total contacts between my 2 Gmail accounts.
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Hmm. Well I dont have that problem. Right when I press a number, the first contact it finds a match to pops right up. I'm running CM 10.1. Maybe it has something to do with the multiple Gmail accounts? I dont see why it would but its the only thing I can think of.
I don't have any issues with the stock dialer either, didn't even know there is a "loading" screen there. I use EX though cause I got use to the swipe left to text / right to call function.
Since you've given us no clue as to what you may have already tried, I'm going to start with the obvious...
I'm guessing you have either corrupt data from restoring via TiBu etc, in which case I would recommend deleting data from the app and rebooting; or you have permissions issues, in which case I would fix permissions via ROM manager and reboot...
that is pretty odd.
i once had my duplicate contacts resulting in about 300+ and i never seen that loading thing before.
i've run through boat loads of 4.2.1 roms and never seen that either.
perhaps you should check how your gmail accounts are synced in settings?
maybe go to www.google.com/contacts and see whatsup there>?
edit- agree with danger-rate
go to recovery->wipe cache->wipe dalvik cache->fix permissions->reboot
danger-rat said:
Since you've given us no clue as to what you may have already tried, I'm going to start with the obvious...
I'm guessing you have either corrupt data from restoring via TiBu etc, in which case I would recommend deleting data from the app and rebooting; or you have permissions issues, in which case I would fix permissions via ROM manager and reboot...
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I don't restore anything from TiBu or any other backup program. I can try to fix permissions in CWM. I have run MMuzzy, Xenon, BAMF, CNA, and a few others. All of them do this on the T9 dialer. When I go between ROMs I wipe everything and start fresh.
RyanTX said:
I don't restore anything from TiBu or any other backup program. I can try to fix permissions in CWM. I have run MMuzzy, Xenon, BAMF, CNA, and a few others. All of them do this on the T9 dialer. When I go between ROMs I wipe everything and start fresh.
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Try fix permissions using ROM Manager.
CWM takes about 2 seconds, and gives you zero feedback. I'm not even sure it does anything.
RM takes about a minute, and tells you exactly what it's doing.
Wipe data from the app itself (long press the app in the recent used list and look at the app info). Wiping Dalvik won't do anything for this...
danger-rat said:
Try fix permissions using ROM Manager.
CWM takes about 2 seconds, and gives you zero feedback. I'm not even sure it does anything.
RM takes about a minute, and tells you exactly what it's doing.
Wipe data from the app itself (long press the app in the recent used list and look at the app info). Wiping Dalvik won't do anything for this...
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Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a shot and let you know the results.
jt.one said:
that is pretty odd.
i once had my duplicate contacts resulting in about 300+ and i never seen that loading thing before.
i've run through boat loads of 4.2.1 roms and never seen that either.
perhaps you should check how your gmail accounts are synced in settings?
maybe go to www.google.com/contacts and see whatsup there>?
edit- agree with danger-rate
go to recovery->wipe cache->wipe dalvik cache->fix permissions->reboot
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I just went to the Google contacts page and nothing looks wrong. I haven't had this problem since 4.2.1. I don't have a clue, it just seems odd I would be the ONLY person to have this issue.
Even after a rom manager fix permissions I still have the same problem.
Just to say its not only you OP I get this from time to time with no idea why,seems to be a rare problem,if I get it fixed will be sure to post the solution

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