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[Q] What phone are you gonna get after Desire Z/G2 ?

i'm not thinking about getting a new phone (yet), but what are you guys up to?

I may wait for coming HTC models for late this year or 2012, beats audio powered and sure Ice cream sandwich in da house.
Though Samsung to be considered.
Had my Z for almost one year. Rocks with 2.3!!
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I've only had my z for a couple months so not looking too soon (I generally keep a phone for 6-9 months) but when I do swap out I'll probably go for another qwerty handset. Milestone 3 maybe. Unless htc come up trumps with an update to this lovely piece of kit.
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My self-imposed goal is to keep on the Desire Z for at least a year, and I got it in December 2010. So I'm going to try to wait it out until end of the year, then see what HTC is offering (or has coming soon) at that time. If I had to get a phone now (if mine broke), I'd look at the Sensation (available from Canada Bell, compatible with AT&T 3G bands) or the Holiday, which is supposed to be out on AT&T soon (this month or next).
Although I'm a bit torn on the hardware keyboard issue lately. This is my 3rd smartphone, all of which have been HTC with a hardware keyboard. But lately I find myself using Swype quite a bit nowadays, and even thinking of going without a hardware keyboard for my next phone. But sometimes, for longer messages I still go back to the hardware keyboard.

i would probably go for the htc sensation XE or sensation once the prices drop on ebay

Hoping for the next nexus or the NEXT next nexus. But I definitely need a FFC and NFC....
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Really going to hold out as long as I can. All of these recent phones coming out look nice, but I'm really still happy with the G2. Its fast and very usable, even with (admittedly) lacking specs. Keeping the phone rooted running a custom ROM breathes new life into this device for sure.
I've had the G2 since January, and I'm going to stick with it for several more months. I'm waiting to see the next 'Nexus' device from Google to see if its really worth it. If ICS is as game changing and innovative as I hope, It'll be hard to resist for sure. I think that'll be the deciding factor for me now.
I'm really not hung up on specs. I get everything done just fine on 512mb RAM and 800mhz processor right now, so I'm not exactly drooling for 1gb RAM and dual core just yet (use cases vary obviously). If the interface and new software is great, and I can really get more done with it, I'm sure I'll end up pulling the trigger on a new device like that.
One thing not keeping me on the G2 is the keyboard. Its nice when I need to bang out some long emails or texts, but the extra heft and thickness just isn't worth it to me. It isn't a big negative though. As far as horizontal sliders go the G2 is quite thin.

Nospin said:
Hoping for the next nexus or the NEXT next nexus.
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I've been disappointed with the Nexus series every since Google moved from HTC to Samsung. Samsung has decent hardware (good displays) but casings seem cheap and plastic compared to most HTC phones. And with Google's purchase of Motorola's mobile division, I have a feeling we may see future Nexus versions coming straight from Google, and made by "former" Motorola folks. And personally, I've been consistently underwhelmed by just about every Motorola smartphone, and they are a step below Samsung.

Been hearing the next 'Nexus' device will be named 'Nexus Prime' and manufactured by Samsung as well. I have hopes that Google will go back to HTC because Sammy's build quality is quite lacking (plastic vs aluminium housing).
I will be holding out for the next 'G' or Desire device from HTC for as long as I can. If I had to choose one now, it would be the Sensation or Holiday. I can say for sure that the manufacturer will be HTC though.

ive heard rumour of rogers canada getting the samsung S2 slide this fall...itll be my replacement. with huge hands and fingers i will not type on a screen lol. hw kb is a must for this cat.
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G3
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I was a click away from buying a sensation couple of nights ago then i said to myself maybe ill wait to see the nexus prime or another qwerty htc
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Ideally that's what I want, because I've been happy with the "G" series, but I haven't seen any indication that they'll be a third G phone. Hopefully that's the case. If not, then a good HTC phone with a slide out keyboard will do. I find myself using it less and less, but I still would like to have it for the sake of versatility.

It's amazing how much having a phone being rooted extends the life of the phone. I would like to see what the next Google Phone is. I see a lot of 4.5 - 4.7 inch screens coming out. I think i'll ditch the full qwerty for a thinner phone with a larger screen. Hopefully Googarola can make me happy with a Nexus/G3 with a 4.8 inch screen, a 1.5 GHz dual core proc, a 720p front facing camera, and of course ICS.

I recently rooted my Desire Z and am not really looking for a replacement anytime soon.
If I were to replace it now a device like the myTouch 4G Slide (HTC Doubleshot) would suit me perfectly. The only thing I'm really missing is a front camera but I'm definitely happy with my Desire Z for now. Ideally, the HTC Doubleshot would come out in Europe as well as I want a qwerty keyboard, front camera and a screen that's not too big.
I'm currently running Virtuous Doubleshot ROM and really like it.

skiptomylou11 said:
Ideally that's what I want, because I've been happy with the "G" series, but I haven't seen any indication that they'll be a third G phone. Hopefully that's the case. If not, then a good HTC phone with a slide out keyboard will do. I find myself using it less and less, but I still would like to have it for the sake of versatility.
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Actually the G-Infinity is what I'm waiting for as well.
I'm assuming it will be the competitor to iphone5 =)
http://zanderthezillionaire.biz

Please give us a G3 I know for a fact 3rd will be the Charm for HTC can u imagine the level they could take it Next. I'm hope they roll out another 1.
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Hm... there is no replace for Desire Z right now in the market, and that shame.
I think, for me, I will wait tull HTC release some new slider for europe, becouse I quite integrate with HTC Sense, and it is quite nice for me. I dont think how to back to clean android after HTC Sense.
My primary need is phisical qwerty keyboard and medium screen mot less then 3.5" and not bigger then 4".

So far , nothing in mind.
What has a qwerty, track pad, speed, sd, HD cam, 480x800 and up screen res, FM, etc and got a high rating in costumers satisfaction?
Nothing yet. What I'm maybe looking for : 2 core, super amoled, better battery life.
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oVeRdOsE. said:
So far , nothing in mind.
What has a qwerty, track pad, speed, sd, HD cam, 480x800 and up screen res, FM, etc and got a high rating in costumers satisfaction?
Nothing yet. What I'm maybe looking for : 2 core, super amoled, better battery life.
source : www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/apple-samsung-top-j-d-power-mobile-phone-satisfaction/
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Interesting graphic/article, thanks for posting it. It pretty much mirrors my personal opinion on the build quality and design of the major smartphone manufacturers (HTC>Samsung>Moto>LG). Of course, with the exception of Apple being at the top. As I think most on here would agree, I just don't like Apple's closed ecosystem.

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?
Would you be upset since you just purchased the M8?

Bla.. Sell this one buy the new one. Should companies stop making phone and adhere to some useless timelines like make a phone every year or 2 years etc. There is a new snapdragon 805 coming, new phones with QHD displays coming out soon. It will be foolish of HTC or any other company to wait till next year to release a phone with the new soc, screens etc.
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 is going to be insane that's for sure. But if the rumors are true about the screen being 5.5 inch, I definitely don't want one. I'm drawing the line at a 5 inch screen, and I'm going to pray to every god I can think of that they don't decide to make the standard any bigger lol.

Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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I'll wait and see what it's got before I pull the trigger , but if it's got the same looks and size with an updated camera I'll be buying it
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snowwhite007 said:
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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omg you said that spot on!

When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet. I think their is a fine line to what you can hold sensibly like a phone. Even if you have huge mitts.
I have large hands and this is my limit, size wise for a daily driver. Being able to fit in my pocket etc.
But second devices are always good

grentuu said:
When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
grentuu said:
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Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears

grentuu said:
Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
Regards,
Dave
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Ok.... It's give me a clue time.
I was born before the Beatles came to fame.
Quite a few years before Armstrong stood on the moon....
Our house phone looked like this
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My TV looked like this
and our neighbours used to come in and sit and watch with us...
Technology spent years trying to 'downsize' their products and now all of a sudden it wants big and brash again. Incidentally, are we heading back to here? (My first mobile)
I have no problems with the bigger products. Like I said, it's just when people hold them to their ears.
Incidentally you young whippersnapper...who wins the age argument
Take care
Rob
P.S. Sorry for being Off topic OP - but it is kind of relevant

I dont think HTC will start selling a device just like their flagship but more powerful. They will aim an other market, and the 5.5 Inch rumor makes sense. I personally own the M8 and for my personal preferences thats the maximum size for a phone. There are people which are ok with their One MAX or Note 3. I just think this device will not be out to compete with the One M8

snowwhite007 said:
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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This is my philosophy as well.
There are only a few circumstances where waiting pays off.

foxmeister said:
I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
Regards,
Dave
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Good point. Actually, at those days we used to make a call with the phone in our hands. Today I have a bt-headset and a pebble, which let me keep my phone in the pocket unless I need to google or read mails. Then, of course, size matters!
BTW, my jeans pockets are the same size than those of 1994, so what?
We will soon see that even Apple steps away from their masters voice, which claimed "nobody needs a phone bigger that an iPhone".

snowwhite007 said:
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Couldn't have said ti better myself. Ther'es always something newer and better on the horizon. Either go bankrupt buying them all or just be happy with what you got until you're ready to upgrade.

If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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wait, you get fast when you are on crack? damn! i do the opposite.
you must be special. :good:

Simer03 said:
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
Sent from my HTC M8
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth

exocetdj said:
the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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Yeah, I underclocked and undervolted my CPU, constantly uses power saving mode, and my M8 still handles all the multitasking and games flawlessly.
The thing is, smartphones are significantly over-powered nowadays. In terms of usage, the jump from S801 to S805 or anything faster would be far less necessary in at least a year.

The prime would probably just have better specs. No point in it since I end up underclocking my CPU to 1.8GHz and only using 3 cores lol. Still don't see any lag.

Considering switching from M7 to M8 or G3

*Mods take note: I have posted a similar, post in the G3 forum with different questions specific to that phone. Please do not delete either of these posts. Thank you
Hey all! I currently have the One (m7) on T-Mobile and am considering switching to either the M8 or the G3. My friend has the G3 and the screen on it and the replaceable battery are pretty big selling points for me, HOWEVER I've had 6 different HTC phones in a row and I've loved them all. Can anyone that's switched from either the M7 or G3 to the M8 give me some feedback to your experience?
Here's a few questions I'd like answered:
My number one complaint recently about my M7 is the purple camera effect in low-light conditions. This is an infamous issue on the M7 and I can't stand it any longer. This is actually the primary reason I'm ready to ditch this phone. Does the M8 suffer the same issue with the pictures?
How are the boomsound speakers on the M8 when compared to the M7 (personal thoughts)?
Has anyone switched from the M8 to the G3 or G3 to M8 and regretted their decision? Why?
I play Clash of Clans a lot, anybody got battery experience with this game on the M8?
Anybody have experience with the M8 and either Square Register or Paypal Here?
I'm considering switching to the G3 primarily because most of the reviews I read recommend it over the M8 by a hair, but HTC's really been on the ball with their customer interaction and keeping up to date with the latest versions of Android... I'd prefer user feedback from people that have used both, or all three. Thank you all so much for your feedback

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Read the forum rules again i think mate. This is a comparison thread so it will be deleted/closed. Useless asking the mods not to delete, rules is rules as they say (and no they are not meant to be broken here lol)
u are best off going to phone comparison websites and making your own decision because the M8 is going to win hands down in the m8 forum and the G3 will win hands down in the G3 forum.
Oh yeah..........., reported
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exocetdj said:
Read the forum rules again i think mate. This is a comparison thread so it will be deleted/closed. Useless asking the mods not to delete, rules is rules as they say (and no they are not meant to be broken here lol)
u are best off going to phone comparison websites and making your own decision because the M8 is going to win hands down in the m8 forum and the G3 will win hands down in the G3 forum.
Oh yeah..........., reported
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Yes, XDA is allowing comparison threads as they do serve a valuable purpose. They help people decide what to run on their phones using the vast knowledge and experience of others on here. Our hope is that the threads stay positive in nature and don't turn into bashing threads.
As for switching, I have an m7 and my Dad has an m8. The m8 is better, but not enough so in my eyes to justify buying a new phone.

coal686 said:
Yes, XDA is allowing comparison threads as they do serve a valuable purpose. They help people decide what to run on their phones using the vast knowledge and experience of others on here. Our hope is that the threads stay positive in nature and don't turn into bashing threads.
As for switching, I have an m7 and my Dad has an m8. The m8 is better, but not enough so in my eyes to justify buying a new phone.
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Fair point man! As long as they are kept friendly
(Anyone stating they hate this phone and going to Iphone "as it's better" will just be ignored by me lol!!!!)

exocetdj said:
Fair point man! As long as they are kept friendly
(Anyone stating they hate this phone and going to Iphone "as it's better" will just be ignored by me lol!!!!)
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Well they say the iphone 6 is a lot more 'flexible'!
I had checked out the G3, but had been put off by the reviews of battery life due to the screen resolution. When I seen the G3 screen in person I wasn't that impressed by it to be honest. I've been very impressed with the M8 camera despite the criticism it has received, I came from an S4 which had a great camera. The M8's is probably just as good, except you obviously can't zoom/crop images as much, but comparing photos and even video it still holds its own. I actually prefer it now to be honest as the S4 had an annoying crackling noise at the start of videos, the speed of the M8 camera app itself is great and has some excellent features too, check the below thread out for some of the quality shots it is capable of.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694621

gsmyth said:
Well they say the iphone 6 is a lot more 'flexible'!
I had checked out the G3, but had been put off by the reviews of battery life due to the screen resolution. When I seen the G3 screen in person I wasn't that impressed by it to be honest. I've been very impressed with the M8 camera despite the criticism it has received, I came from an S4 which had a great camera. The M8's is probably just as good, except you obviously can't zoom/crop images as much, but comparing photos and even video it still holds its own. I actually prefer it now to be honest as the S4 had an annoying crackling noise at the start of videos, the speed of the M8 camera app itself is great and has some excellent features too, check the below thread out for some of the quality shots it is capable of.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694621
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i do like the lack of side bezel on the G3 but the m8 has considerably less than the m7, looks very tidy

The battery issue was a factor when I made my decision, until I stopped and thought about it for a minute. When was the last time I actually replaced a battery in a phone? Hmm. That would be my LG Vu (CU920) - from 2008. Every phone since then is still sporting its original battery. My parents have matching iPhone 4S', and both are still running strong on their original batteries. It just isn't as big a deal these days for the most part.
I also liked the perceived build quality of the M8. Sure, I always strap an Otterbox around my phones, but the M8 felt more solid in my hand. it has a solid balance and heft that I preferred. I still have, and like, my Samsung Galaxy S2, but even it feels "cheap" beside my M8. I will admit that reports of the camera failing are disturbing, but those are covered under warranty. If you get a camera with purple streaks, send it back. Thankfully, mine performed flawlessly out of the box.
However, what finally sold me on the M8 was the fact that there are both official and unofficial ways to unlock the boot loader. The G3 has root for now, but every OTA kills root, and you never know when you might get it back. The only saving grace is that if you ever get root, you can kill the updater process, but then you are left with an unpatched device running whatever firmware was on it when you stopped updating. If you want to run custom ROMs, you have to pray you can keep safestrap running, because if it gets hosed, you are now the proud owner of a brick. If your ROM requires updated firmware, well, good luck with that.
If custom ROMs or maintaining root access aren't important to you, then take that with a grain of salt. I simply can't tolerate a device without root, so I wanted a phone I felt I could be sure of retaining root on for its lifetime.

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The battery issue was a factor when I made my decision, until I stopped and thought about it for a minute. When was the last time I actually replaced a battery in a phone? Hmm. That would be my LG Vu (CU920) - from 2008. Every phone since then is still sporting its original battery. My parents have matching iPhone 4S', and both are still running strong on their original batteries. It just isn't as big a deal these days for the most part.
I also liked the perceived build quality of the M8. Sure, I always strap an Otterbox around my phones, but the M8 felt more solid in my hand. it has a solid balance and heft that I preferred. I still have, and like, my Samsung Galaxy S2, but even it feels "cheap" beside my M8. I will admit that reports of the camera failing are disturbing, but those are covered under warranty. If you get a camera with purple streaks, send it back. Thankfully, mine performed flawlessly out of the box.
However, what finally sold me on the M8 was the fact that there are both official and unofficial ways to unlock the boot loader. The G3 has root for now, but every OTA kills root, and you never know when you might get it back. The only saving grace is that if you ever get root, you can kill the updater process, but then you are left with an unpatched device running whatever firmware was on it when you stopped updating. If you want to run custom ROMs, you have to pray you can keep safestrap running, because if it gets hosed, you are now the proud owner of a brick. If your ROM requires updated firmware, well, good luck with that.
If custom ROMs or maintaining root access aren't important to you, then take that with a grain of salt. I simply can't tolerate a device without root, so I wanted a phone I felt I could be sure of retaining root on for its lifetime.
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I think there's generally a better development for the m8 also. The fact that there is a Google edition that provides devs with a pure Google Rom and even allows for full conversion to Google play edition is great too.

I'm thinking of ditching my One m8 and getting the G3.
I've owned various phones including the m7 and LG G2. Maybe it's just me, but every HTC I have used seems to have some sort of problem. Both the m7 and m8 I have exchanged 2 times each (so 6 phones in total) and they have all had some sort of problem related to build quality.
My current daily driver, One m8, is now in for repairs due to a broken top speaker and I've only had it for 2 weeks (keep in mind this is the third one I exchanged for). Needless to say, I will be selling this phone and buying another - most likely the G3 (was very pleased with the G2).
Personally, I've tried to like HTC due to their beautiful designs and excellent build material (which is why I upgraded to m8 after a faulty m7), but the poor build quality and customer service really leaves with with a lack of confidence in my choice. Others may have different opinions, but this is just my experience after owning 10 high end phones over the past 4 years.

Have any of you M8 users had the "purple camera issue" that the M7 had? That's my main concern at this point

exocetdj said:
Fair point man! As long as they are kept friendly
(Anyone stating they hate this phone and going to Iphone "as it's better" will just be ignored by me lol!!!!)
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Agreed, let's keep it friendly.
Awaiting any mention of ANY phone other than the M8
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RADRaze2KX said:
Have any of you M8 users had the "purple camera issue" that the M7 had? That's my main concern at this point
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55639997&postcount=29
That guy shows he has similar issue, but I haven't had any problems like that. *Touch wooooooooooooooooooood* :fingers-crossed:

RADRaze2KX said:
*Mods take note: I have posted a similar, post in the G3 forum with different questions specific to that phone. Please do not delete either of these posts. Thank you
Hey all! I currently have the One (m7) on T-Mobile and am considering switching to either the M8 or the G3. My friend has the G3 and the screen on it and the replaceable battery are pretty big selling points for me, HOWEVER I've had 6 different HTC phones in a row and I've loved them all. Can anyone that's switched from either the M7 or G3 to the M8 give me some feedback to your experience?
Here's a few questions I'd like answered:
My number one complaint recently about my M7 is the purple camera effect in low-light conditions. This is an infamous issue on the M7 and I can't stand it any longer. This is actually the primary reason I'm ready to ditch this phone. Does the M8 suffer the same issue with the pictures?
How are the boomsound speakers on the M8 when compared to the M7 (personal thoughts)?
Has anyone switched from the M8 to the G3 or G3 to M8 and regretted their decision? Why?
I play Clash of Clans a lot, anybody got battery experience with this game on the M8?
Anybody have experience with the M8 and either Square Register or Paypal Here?
I'm considering switching to the G3 primarily because most of the reviews I read recommend it over the M8 by a hair, but HTC's really been on the ball with their customer interaction and keeping up to date with the latest versions of Android... I'd prefer user feedback from people that have used both, or all three. Thank you all so much for your feedback
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i have had the phone for a week and perhaps its too early but below are my observations so far
1_. Does the M8 suffer the same issue with the pictures? No, havent come across any such instances on the internet & certainly not on mine
2_How are the boomsound speakers on the M8 when compared to the M7 (personal thoughts)? better in terms of bass. i luv it
3_Has anyone switched from the M8 to the G3 or G3 to M8 and regretted their decision? Why? no issues so far so too early to say
4_I play Clash of Clans a lot, anybody got battery experience with this game on the M8? i play clash of clans and open the game every 1 hour or so for atleast 5 mins. I loose between 1-3% during the 5 mins. so throughout the day if i play the game for around total of 1 hr, i loose around 20-25% battery. note this is on 15% brightness! I guess the more time u spend clashing then the more the battery drain. that goes without saying!
im pretty impressed with the battery

I came from the G3 to the m8 and I can say that I like the m8 better...
G3 stutters and lags sometimes, and gets hot quite quickly...
Camera wise they are kind of on the same level, each has strengths and weaknesses... Front camera is clearly better on the m8... No purple tint on my device...
Ultimately it's down to personal preference, but in my opinion, the m8 being snappier, cooler and similar camera (despite the megapixel difference) is the better phone

RADRaze2KX said:
Have any of you M8 users had the "purple camera issue" that the M7 had? That's my main concern at this point
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I had the tint issue with my m7. No problem on my m8.
Teio said:
I came from the G3 to the m8 and I can say that I like the m8 better...
G3 stutters and lags sometimes, and gets hot quite quickly...
Camera wise they are kind of on the same level, each has strengths and weaknesses... Front camera is clearly better on the m8... No purple tint on my device...
Ultimately it's down to personal preference, but in my opinion, the m8 being snappier, cooler and similar camera (despite the megapixel difference) is the better phone
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How did you feel about the change in display quality and color when making the switch? I know the m8's display is excellent, but does the G3 compare? The mention of over-sharpening and dull color is the only thing I'm hesitating on before changing to the G3.

Here's my opinion as M8 user, but I will be objective.
A few friends of mine have G3. It's definitely great phone, with good design and build quality, and probably with more features than M8 (most of them are useless for me, but still). Now, things I don't like about it are screen and interface. Why screen? Because contrast and colors aren't on the highest quality level. And QHD resoultion means nothing. And why interface? It doesn't look so bad, but it lags. And I don't want that phone with the most powerful SoC lags.
These things are dealbreakers, at least for me.
And why M8? It's simple, it's premium aluminium build quality and super fast interface are the best. Everything is working perfectly smooth and I've never experienced any lag. These are very important things to me (especially interface), and that why I think that M8 is the best choice.

Stick with the M7
- This post is rather biased towards the M7 by the way-
As the purple tint is the main reason for the desired change, have you looked into getting it replaced so that you'll have an M7 without the purple tint issue?
Unfortunately, I can't be much help in regards to the M8 for G3 as I've only used them both briefly.
I got to use my mates G3 as he wanted me to get it rooted for him. I ended up testing it out for the rest of the day and it really felt like a solid phone. It was performing great, as I'd expected for a newer flagship, it felt really smooth and I was happy with the camera and screen quality from what I'd tested. The part I couldn't get used to, but surely would given enough time with it, was the power and volume buttons being on the back of the phone. That just felt incredibly uncomfortable to use and let the G3 down in my opinion. That's the only fault I found from my quick findings though.
I only ended up using the M8 for a couple of hours as, yet again, I was called upon to root and S-Off. They finished work not long after I'd done that for them so couldn't get a lot of testing done. With this thread being in the M8 forum, others here will surely be able to answer on behalf of the M8 much better than I can.
As I've had the M7 since UK release and have been so impressed with it considering it's my first HTC, I was looking forward to what the M8 would bring. As coal686 mentioned, I didn't feel like it was enough of an upgrade to bother buying it. If the design of the M8 was closer to that of the M7 then I likely would've brought it (mainly because it would then be guaranteed updates for a bit longer). However, I really don't like the design of the M8. While it may well be a fantastic phone, I feel that the M7 looks like a much more professional phone and that was what initially tempted me to buy it.
If you feel like you'd be able to get used to the back buttons on the G3, I'd suggest going for that as I doubt you'll really feel the M8 is worth the upgrade considering the M7 is still a great phone

G3 all the way. I've owned the m7,gs5,m8,g3 in that order and haven't looked back. The m8 has to much unused real estate in front for my liking. The g3 has a real clean front with minimal wasted space. I didn't like the camera on either of my HTC phones. I wish I had a fully unlocked option for the g3 but I don't. That's the one thing I liked about the m8 but everything else on the g3 won me over screen, camera, and minimal wasted space in front. I don't remember if the m8 had an SD slot but this is a big bonus for me personally.
Also battery life on the phones for me went gs5 highest then m8 and last g3. I used the gs5 the least(about a week so maybe it wasn't enough time to compare but from what I recall battery would last longer than the other two phones. I now do a lot more calls then I did when i had the m8 or gs5. Not sure if that's what is killing my battery but that's the only change I've made to my style of use between the phones.
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I don't remember if the m8 had an SD slot but this is a big bonus for me personally.
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The M8, unlike the M7, does have an SD slot. It supports up to 128GB SD cards.

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The M8, unlike the M7, does have an SD slot. It supports up to 128GB SD cards.
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Thanks I didn't remember anymore.
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The M8, unlike the M7, does have an SD slot. It supports up to 128GB SD cards.
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And that's the reason I didn't get the M7 when it came out. I'm glad HTC listen to it's customers and included it in the M8. I'm glad that HTC made Blinkfeed an option on Sense 6 as well. That was another reason I skipped the M7. I'm just not a social media/RSS feed kind of guy.
I can say this about the M8, I usually root my phones and flash custom ROM's within I'd say 6 months because of Sense skin (I've always had HTC phone since my first smart phone a few years ago). I can say that HTC got Sense 6 right. It's just the right balance between a manufactures Android skin and Android itself. I just not had the desire to root and flash up to this point.
The phone is very fast with no lag at all and I've used the power saver mode almost exclusively which throttles down the processor to save battery life. I also switch between auto brightness to full brightness depending on what I'm doing I don't play CoC but I do play Boom Beach which is similar from the same developer and I'm usually on it for an hour or so a day. I've not had to worry about my battery life at all. I used to obsess with my battery on my two previous HTC phone but with the M8 I don't even think about the battery any more. I can get over a day on one charge and that is with using Bluetooth data tethering to my Asus TF201 (playing Boom Beach on the larger screen) Bluetoothing (is that a word???) music to my Bose Soundlink mini speaker (sometime at the same time as tethering data). I average at least 25 text a day and I'm always taking calls from work or family. My Gsam battery Monitor app reports my average life for complete charges since August 7th (when I installed the app) is 2 day 20 hours with 10h 20m active and 5h 35m of screen on time.
Having two forward facing speakers is a great thing. They sound better than anything out there today and is one of the features that convinced me to get it. I'm a big audiophile and good sound is a must. I have to say they are not perfect, a little tinny for my taste but with a little tinkering with a EQ you can get them to sound really good for a phone. I can play music and put it in my pocket messing around the house and have music with me all the time without having to us ear buds etc.
The camera is OK. I don't have the purple tint issue. The front facing camera is awesome. The best selfie camera out there these days (not that I take a lot of selfies). The rear camera can be made good with all the settings. I really get good results using manual mode. The best thing about manual mode is you can save the configuration and use it later. Low light performance is great IMO.
Overall I'm really impressed with this phone. It's the first phone I've had where I'm not thinking about the "Next big thing" except I'm really intrigued by the Galaxy Edge.
I don't know about the the G3, a co-worker has one and he loves it. I've not had a chance to play with it but it appears to be a solid phone.
Hope this helps
Edit - I forgot. I'm not sure if the G3 has and NFC chip but I use NFC on my M8 almost everyday buying stuff out of the vending machines at work. It saves me a lot of time since my locker at work and the cafeteria are at opposite ends of the building and I don't have to carry around my wallet or change anymore.

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28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Also hate autocorrect on this thing. Keyboard is harder to type on. I had no problems on the lg g3
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The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?

RedOCtobyr said:
The Verizon G4 section is quiet, but the general G4 forums are much more active.
I bought mine on Edge as well (albeit from Best Buy). This is the first I recall hearing of a 30 day return period, vs 14 days. If so, that's pretty nice.
What are your priorities in a phone? I chose the G4 largely based on the SD card and removable battery, along with the camera.
The rumors I've heard seem to imply no SD card on the Note 5, IIRC. And possibly no removable battery. Do you want a stylus?
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I think youre right, its probably 14days.
I chose this phone because of camera and because i had the lg g3 before this. This phone seems a little slower than the g3. Ive had so many problems with the keyboard. Im a fast texter but this phone has me make so many typos. Sometimes the space bar won't even insert space after touching it. Seems as if it isnt very responsive to touch as the g3 was. Battery life is also very bad, Not that bad but i had more hours on the g3. The stylus wouldn't be bad i just like the bigger screen. I dont like the fact that the note 5 might not have a removable battery or support sd cards. The note 4 seems to be my best choice and suits more needs more but i just love the lg g3 and i figured that this one would be amazing. But the way the touch screen response is annoying me.
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The only reason I am sticking with my G4 for now is because of the camera, it's amazing. I'm leaning more towards the Moto X Pure though.

You're going to return it.. Why? You're talking about switching to the note 5... The note 4 doesn't even have permanent root. Won't exactly get much better.
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28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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Yeah you're going to switch to a phone that doesn't even have root and will never have an unlocked BL whereas the G4 has a chance to be unlocked?

zagan131313 said:
28th the LG g4 being 2months old and how empty it seems to be on the forum ,is anyone else thinking of getting the samsung note 5. Being that o got my phone the verizon edge program. H can still return it before 30 days and h could just wait for note 5. Note sure if i should.
Any opinions?
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I do agree that it makes me nervous that we are 2 months in and still not much activity, especially compared to the G2 and G3, it just shows that LG phones are becoming less popular it seems.
Going to the Note 5 because of this though is completely idiotic, look at the Note 4. It still doesn't have root.

As an admitted flashaholic, I am a bit frustrated with the current state of our devices. However, the camera is so good, and I really like the leather back, that I may be satiated if Xposed starts working. I am also keeping my eyes on news of the LG built Nexus 5 (2015). I have seen conflicting reports about the camera it will be using. If it's the same, or close to the G4, I will be all over it, as long as it's supported on the Verizon network.

I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.

joshw0000 said:
I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!

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Not exactly. The battery is about the same on the Style (Pure, whatever). The Play edition is getting the crazy big battery. Honestly, I wouldn't have my G4 if not for the fact that the 1) Play is not available in the US and 2) the Style mysteriously has the smaller battery of the two devices.
Otherwise,... I'm really quite happy with my G4. It's definitely got bloat... but it's nowhere near the nastiness that was TouchWiz (my last phone was an S5), and I've been pleasantly surprised at how little it has, and how much of it is easily disabled. Woohoo! no more baby detector!!
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Oops, crossed my facts. 3000 mah should be plenty with Turbo charging. The phone is a beast (in terms of specs). Add in Pure Android and (hopefully) and unlockable bootloader and its the right phone for me.
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joshw0000 said:
I used to love Samsung phones but they've finally killed everything I loved about them (sd card, removable battery, and hackability). My next phone will be the Moto X Style Pure Edition. It should be released soon and it will have a sd card slot, run pure debloated Android, likely be hackable, and only cost $400-450 without contract. It's supposed to have the best battery of any phone currently on the market.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
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I'm thinking it'll be a true unlocked phone like the i6 and Nexus 6.
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but will likely not have as good of a camera =/. and probably wont be on verizon, for the same price.
To be honest, I dont care about 4k display, I still think the G2 had a better display than the G4. I wonder would a 1080p screen give us 10-20% more battery life or have they really optimized our display.
I wouldnt have mind the same phone crammed into G2 body just with cpu/gpu/chipset upgrade with camera upgrade. 100 dollars less too. I guess that is asking for a lot =P.
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Oh, it will be available on Verizon, just not FROM Verizon, if you know what I mean.

Where to from here?

Evening all,
Have had the HTC 10 since launch day and I have to say it's been quite the beast, besides battery and the usual camera blips, it's the best phone I've ever had.
Recently I've been keeping a closer eye on the flagships of this year.
One plus 5
HTC u11
Galaxy S8
The latter of the three I have lost all interest in, but the other two I'm stuck between choosing, I have to say I'm torn, this will be my first phone bought out right, the one plus five is £200 cheaper which is massive really ( depending which one is chosen) and I couldn't care less about squeezing my phone.
Just wondered what you guys thought and what you'd be after yourselves, the one plus feels like what the Nexus line up should be.
The 11 will also be one of three HTC flagships which I've not owned ( one x, m8) so I'm still peering back over that HTC fence.
My thoughts are with developers too, I live a vibrant development community as I root my devices day one every time.
Any thoughts?
Or? Just keep the 10? It's got a tonne of life left in it, definitely a great phone, I have a load of kit for it and it's S-off.
Confused.
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dladz said:
Evening all,
Have had the HTC 10 since launch day and I have to say it's been quite the beast, besides battery and the usual camera blips, it's the best phone I've ever had.
Recently I've been keeping a closer eye on the flagships of this year.
One plus 5
HTC u11
Galaxy S8
The latter of the three I have lost all interest in, but the other two I'm stuck between choosing, I have to say I'm torn, this will be my first phone bought out right, the one plus five is £200 cheaper which is massive really ( depending which one is chosen) and I couldn't care less about squeezing my phone.
Just wondered what you guys thought and what you'd be after yourselves, the one plus feels like what the Nexus line up should be.
The 11 will also be one of three HTC flagships which I've not owned ( one x, m8) so I'm still peering back over that HTC fence.
My thoughts are with developers too, I live a vibrant development community as I root my devices day one every time.
Any thoughts?
Or? Just keep the 10? It's got a tonne of life left in it, definitely a great phone, I have a load of kit for it and it's S-off.
Confused.
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I say - save your money and keep the 10. It's a great phone, and it still has plenty of punch. Maybe wait untill Christmass so you get yourself a nice Cristmass present [emoji1]

HTC11: A gimmick disguised as a smartphone.
S8: Like an iPhone, overrated, overhyped and overpriced to match.
One+5: Now there's a contender. Looks like great build quality, good Dev support. I'd stick with the 10 until next year, when prices drop and look at it then.
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I don't know, I love my HTC 10, but there are certain software things that really annoy me. And let's not even talk about how we're still on the January security patch here. So I have been often thinking if buying the phone was a good idea. I had to choose between OnePlus 3T and the 10, and the HTC fanboy in me won.
Still, I'll probably wait until next year. The price of the 3T will probably drop, so I was thinking about selling the 10 and getting it, but getting a good price for the 10 would be difficult.

I think I'm going to sit on the 10 for a bit.
I'm torn, much like yourself.
I have to say, ghough. I am still happy with the 10.

donkeykong1 said:
I say - save your money and keep the 10. It's a great phone, and it still has plenty of punch. Maybe wait untill Christmass so you get yourself a nice Cristmass present [emoji1]
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Aye I'm with you, it's the first time I've been this torn between choosing, with the m7 and m9 I didn't hesitate, even the Nexus 6P, I just sold it and got this.
Only problem with waiting is youll miss the sweet spot in time and then have to spend more time looking at the newer version of the phone you got too late
It's a tightrope lol. Think if I held it in my hand (1+5) my inner child would win, I think I was a magpie in a previous life, anything shiney and my eyes light up, maybe I was a pirate?
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HTC11: A gimmick disguised as a smartphone.
S8: Like an iPhone, overrated, overhyped and overpriced to match.
One+5: Now there's a contender. Looks like great build quality, good Dev support. I'd stick with the 10 until next year, when prices drop and look at it then.
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Gimmicky in regards to the squeeze madness. But the rest of the phone is supposed to be alright and so long as the got viper it'll be superb. [emoji16]
I do agree though, can't see that squeeze taking off and best of luck getting it to work on cm ROMs.
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I don't know, I love my HTC 10, but there are certain software things that really annoy me. And let's not even talk about how we're still on the January security patch here. So I have been often thinking if buying the phone was a good idea. I had to choose between OnePlus 3T and the 10, and the HTC fanboy in me won.
Still, I'll probably wait until next year. The price of the 3T will probably drop, so I was thinking about selling the 10 and getting it, but getting a good price for the 10 would be difficult.
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You'll get 200 on the​ 10 now but sell it to a human rather than somewhere that buys phones like mizuma
I've heard great things about the 3T, I have hard great things about oneplus in general.
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I think I'm going to sit on the 10 for a bit.
I'm torn, much like yourself.
I have to say, ghough. I am still happy with the 10.
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Aye I think a lot of people will say the same..
Think if I see the one plus I'll get it, I am a sucker for new tech.
Do you think the leap is that large between the 820 and 835?
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dladz said:
You'll get 200 on the​ 10 now but sell it to a human rather than somewhere that buys phones like mizuma
I've heard great things about the 3T, I have hard great things about oneplus in general.
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Yeah, if I'm going to sell it, I'll sell it to a human.
And I've been hearing great things about the 3T and OnePlus.
The only problem is that the 3T will render my 128 gb sdcard useless, and I'll have to get the 128 variant of the 3T.
Which is why I'm hesitating.

TheMadKing said:
Yeah, if I'm going to sell it, I'll sell it to a human.
And I've been hearing great things about the 3T and OnePlus.
The only problem is that the 3T will render my 128 gb sdcard useless, and I'll have to get the 128 variant of the 3T.
Which is why I'm hesitating.
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I don't know about the 3T... My friend has it and, TBH, I really don't see any advantages to my 10. And after Nougat update, his phone can't last a day with one full charge with moderate to low usage. I'm getting about 36 hours off charge on my bone stock 10 on Nougat with about the same usage pattern

One plus 5 is cheaper but has worse camera and screen. The lower price tag doesn't come without takeoffs.
I say stick with the 10

TheMadKing said:
Yeah, if I'm going to sell it, I'll sell it to a human.
And I've been hearing great things about the 3T and OnePlus.
The only problem is that the 3T will render my 128 gb sdcard useless, and I'll have to get the 128 variant of the 3T.
Which is why I'm hesitating.
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Good point but theyre only £30 now? Not sure if that would sway me alone?
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One plus 5 is cheaper but has worse camera and screen. The lower price tag doesn't come without takeoffs.
I say stick with the 10
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I don't know, I've heard very very different in regards to the camera, I'm not a huge fan of the HTC camera, hasn't been great for a while, can take good pics but is super prone to glare and haze.
If it's just been cleaned then it's ok but wiping it every time is a pain.
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donkeykong1 said:
I don't know about the 3T... My friend has it and, TBH, I really don't see any advantages to my 10. And after Nougat update, his phone can't last a day with one full charge with moderate to low usage. I'm getting about 36 hours off charge on my bone stock 10 on Nougat with about the same usage pattern
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I don't know, battery life hasn't been amazing on Nougat for me either. I don't know if I've got 3 hours of SoT on Nougat.
But it's not that much of a problem, I can always get to a charger in time. My main issue is that with sudden lag. Like one moment, the phone is all smooth, and then something lags. The best example for it is opening the phone with the fingerprint. Sometimes, it works flawlessly. It directly opens to the home screen.
But sometimes, there is a moment of lag, when I can see the lockscreen before it unlocks. And it might sound ridiculous, but it can be very frustrating. I chose the 10 in front of the S7 specifically to avoid lag.

TheMadKing said:
I don't know, battery life hasn't been amazing on Nougat for me either. I don't know if I've got 3 hours of SoT on Nougat.
But it's not that much of a problem, I can always get to a charger in time. My main issue is that with sudden lag. Like one moment, the phone is all smooth, and then something lags. The best example for it is opening the phone with the fingerprint. Sometimes, it works flawlessly. It directly opens to the home screen.
But sometimes, there is a moment of lag, when I can see the lockscreen before it unlocks. And it might sound ridiculous, but it can be very frustrating. I chose the 10 in front of the S7 specifically to avoid lag.
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As for battery life, take a look at my average on the bottom. As for lag... What lag???? Just kidding, lag is the only thing I never had on my 10 [emoji1]
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dladz said:
Good point but theyre only £30 now? Not sure if that would sway me alone?
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My main problem is that I'm from Romania, and that's why everything is a little bit more expensive. Or it seems more expensive for me, at least.
I could get the 128 GB OnePlus 3T for around 685 USD. But then, I could only sell my 10 for maybe 600, and I'd lose the ability to use the sd card, which was 60 USD or so.
So it wouldn't be that profitable from the point of view of money. But I've heard so many things about the smoothness of Oxygen OS that it seems worth it.
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As for battery life, take a look at my average on the bottom. As for lag... What lag???? Just kidding, lag is the only thing I never had on my 10 [emoji1] View attachment 4191177
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I really don't understand how you can get this much battery life. I'll post my battery life once I'll be able, since I just charged it, but I normally can't get more than 3h SoT.
As for lag, I had it pretty worse, but then ai pinpointed my problem to my old sd card, which is why I bought my current card and then I did a reset.
And now I still occasionally get some lag on Chrome or Facebook, and while unlocking the device. And it's frustrating.

TheMadKing said:
My main problem is that I'm from Romania, and that's why everything is a little bit more expensive. Or it seems more expensive for me, at least.
I could get the 128 GB OnePlus 3T for around 685 USD. But then, I could only sell my 10 for maybe 600, and I'd lose the ability to use the sd card, which was 60 USD or so.
So it wouldn't be that profitable from the point of view of money. But I've heard so many things about the smoothness of Oxygen OS that it seems worth it.
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I really don't understand how you can get this much battery life. I'll post my battery life once I'll be able, since I just charged it, but I normally can't get more than 3h SoT.
As for lag, I had it pretty worse, but then ai pinpointed my problem to my old sd card, which is why I bought my current card and then I did a reset.
And now I still occasionally get some lag on Chrome or Facebook, and while unlocking the device. And it's frustrating.
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Chrome is a lag friendly app, so I disabled that. Facebook is buttery smooth for me. I really don't understand this battery life thing. I have 2 10s, and both have similar battery life. No wi-fi issues, no lag whatsoever, nothing. I did have a problem with one of my phones, but that was resolved with the help of HTC Croatia. They gave me a new phone because my issue wasn't solved after 2 warranty claims

donkeykong1 said:
Chrome is a lag friendly app, so I disabled that. Facebook is buttery smooth for me. I really don't understand this battery life thing. I have 2 10s, and both have similar battery life. No wi-fi issues, no lag whatsoever, nothing. I did have a problem with one of my phones, but that was resolved with the help of HTC Croatia. They gave me a new phone because my issue wasn't solved after 2 warranty claims
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My battery life was pretty good on Marshmallow, I mean I certainly got the ~4 hours SoT that the reviewers were talking about. The problems started with Nougat, even after I performed multiple factory resets. I was so frustrated at a point that I installed Resurrection Remix for a while, before returning to stock.
The only different thing that I've had is that I was always S-OFF. As soon as I got the phone I used Sunshine. But I don't think that something like that could cause lag.
And I was thinking about sending the phone to service, it's still in warranty of course, but I've generally had a bad experience with stuff like that here in Romania. So I'm hesitating to send my phone away for weeks.

dladz said:
I don't know, I've heard very very different in regards to the camera, I'm not a huge fan of the HTC camera, hasn't been great for a while, can take good pics but is super prone to glare and haze.
If it's just been cleaned then it's ok but wiping it every time is a pain.
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I meant compared to the s8 and and 11.
The main thing I see the one plus has going for it other than the lower price is great performance, according to reviews. The 11 has that too, so it comes down to if the price difference is worth the better camera and screen.