Evening all,
Have had the HTC 10 since launch day and I have to say it's been quite the beast, besides battery and the usual camera blips, it's the best phone I've ever had.
Recently I've been keeping a closer eye on the flagships of this year.
One plus 5
HTC u11
Galaxy S8
The latter of the three I have lost all interest in, but the other two I'm stuck between choosing, I have to say I'm torn, this will be my first phone bought out right, the one plus five is £200 cheaper which is massive really ( depending which one is chosen) and I couldn't care less about squeezing my phone.
Just wondered what you guys thought and what you'd be after yourselves, the one plus feels like what the Nexus line up should be.
The 11 will also be one of three HTC flagships which I've not owned ( one x, m8) so I'm still peering back over that HTC fence.
My thoughts are with developers too, I live a vibrant development community as I root my devices day one every time.
Any thoughts?
Or? Just keep the 10? It's got a tonne of life left in it, definitely a great phone, I have a load of kit for it and it's S-off.
Confused.
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dladz said:
Evening all,
Have had the HTC 10 since launch day and I have to say it's been quite the beast, besides battery and the usual camera blips, it's the best phone I've ever had.
Recently I've been keeping a closer eye on the flagships of this year.
One plus 5
HTC u11
Galaxy S8
The latter of the three I have lost all interest in, but the other two I'm stuck between choosing, I have to say I'm torn, this will be my first phone bought out right, the one plus five is £200 cheaper which is massive really ( depending which one is chosen) and I couldn't care less about squeezing my phone.
Just wondered what you guys thought and what you'd be after yourselves, the one plus feels like what the Nexus line up should be.
The 11 will also be one of three HTC flagships which I've not owned ( one x, m8) so I'm still peering back over that HTC fence.
My thoughts are with developers too, I live a vibrant development community as I root my devices day one every time.
Any thoughts?
Or? Just keep the 10? It's got a tonne of life left in it, definitely a great phone, I have a load of kit for it and it's S-off.
Confused.
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I say - save your money and keep the 10. It's a great phone, and it still has plenty of punch. Maybe wait untill Christmass so you get yourself a nice Cristmass present [emoji1]
HTC11: A gimmick disguised as a smartphone.
S8: Like an iPhone, overrated, overhyped and overpriced to match.
One+5: Now there's a contender. Looks like great build quality, good Dev support. I'd stick with the 10 until next year, when prices drop and look at it then.
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I don't know, I love my HTC 10, but there are certain software things that really annoy me. And let's not even talk about how we're still on the January security patch here. So I have been often thinking if buying the phone was a good idea. I had to choose between OnePlus 3T and the 10, and the HTC fanboy in me won.
Still, I'll probably wait until next year. The price of the 3T will probably drop, so I was thinking about selling the 10 and getting it, but getting a good price for the 10 would be difficult.
I think I'm going to sit on the 10 for a bit.
I'm torn, much like yourself.
I have to say, ghough. I am still happy with the 10.
donkeykong1 said:
I say - save your money and keep the 10. It's a great phone, and it still has plenty of punch. Maybe wait untill Christmass so you get yourself a nice Cristmass present [emoji1]
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Aye I'm with you, it's the first time I've been this torn between choosing, with the m7 and m9 I didn't hesitate, even the Nexus 6P, I just sold it and got this.
Only problem with waiting is youll miss the sweet spot in time and then have to spend more time looking at the newer version of the phone you got too late
It's a tightrope lol. Think if I held it in my hand (1+5) my inner child would win, I think I was a magpie in a previous life, anything shiney and my eyes light up, maybe I was a pirate?
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BillTheCat said:
HTC11: A gimmick disguised as a smartphone.
S8: Like an iPhone, overrated, overhyped and overpriced to match.
One+5: Now there's a contender. Looks like great build quality, good Dev support. I'd stick with the 10 until next year, when prices drop and look at it then.
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Gimmicky in regards to the squeeze madness. But the rest of the phone is supposed to be alright and so long as the got viper it'll be superb. [emoji16]
I do agree though, can't see that squeeze taking off and best of luck getting it to work on cm ROMs.
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TheMadKing said:
I don't know, I love my HTC 10, but there are certain software things that really annoy me. And let's not even talk about how we're still on the January security patch here. So I have been often thinking if buying the phone was a good idea. I had to choose between OnePlus 3T and the 10, and the HTC fanboy in me won.
Still, I'll probably wait until next year. The price of the 3T will probably drop, so I was thinking about selling the 10 and getting it, but getting a good price for the 10 would be difficult.
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You'll get 200 on the 10 now but sell it to a human rather than somewhere that buys phones like mizuma
I've heard great things about the 3T, I have hard great things about oneplus in general.
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andybones said:
I think I'm going to sit on the 10 for a bit.
I'm torn, much like yourself.
I have to say, ghough. I am still happy with the 10.
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Aye I think a lot of people will say the same..
Think if I see the one plus I'll get it, I am a sucker for new tech.
Do you think the leap is that large between the 820 and 835?
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dladz said:
You'll get 200 on the 10 now but sell it to a human rather than somewhere that buys phones like mizuma
I've heard great things about the 3T, I have hard great things about oneplus in general.
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Yeah, if I'm going to sell it, I'll sell it to a human.
And I've been hearing great things about the 3T and OnePlus.
The only problem is that the 3T will render my 128 gb sdcard useless, and I'll have to get the 128 variant of the 3T.
Which is why I'm hesitating.
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Yeah, if I'm going to sell it, I'll sell it to a human.
And I've been hearing great things about the 3T and OnePlus.
The only problem is that the 3T will render my 128 gb sdcard useless, and I'll have to get the 128 variant of the 3T.
Which is why I'm hesitating.
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I don't know about the 3T... My friend has it and, TBH, I really don't see any advantages to my 10. And after Nougat update, his phone can't last a day with one full charge with moderate to low usage. I'm getting about 36 hours off charge on my bone stock 10 on Nougat with about the same usage pattern
One plus 5 is cheaper but has worse camera and screen. The lower price tag doesn't come without takeoffs.
I say stick with the 10
TheMadKing said:
Yeah, if I'm going to sell it, I'll sell it to a human.
And I've been hearing great things about the 3T and OnePlus.
The only problem is that the 3T will render my 128 gb sdcard useless, and I'll have to get the 128 variant of the 3T.
Which is why I'm hesitating.
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Good point but theyre only £30 now? Not sure if that would sway me alone?
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Tarima said:
One plus 5 is cheaper but has worse camera and screen. The lower price tag doesn't come without takeoffs.
I say stick with the 10
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I don't know, I've heard very very different in regards to the camera, I'm not a huge fan of the HTC camera, hasn't been great for a while, can take good pics but is super prone to glare and haze.
If it's just been cleaned then it's ok but wiping it every time is a pain.
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I don't know about the 3T... My friend has it and, TBH, I really don't see any advantages to my 10. And after Nougat update, his phone can't last a day with one full charge with moderate to low usage. I'm getting about 36 hours off charge on my bone stock 10 on Nougat with about the same usage pattern
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I don't know, battery life hasn't been amazing on Nougat for me either. I don't know if I've got 3 hours of SoT on Nougat.
But it's not that much of a problem, I can always get to a charger in time. My main issue is that with sudden lag. Like one moment, the phone is all smooth, and then something lags. The best example for it is opening the phone with the fingerprint. Sometimes, it works flawlessly. It directly opens to the home screen.
But sometimes, there is a moment of lag, when I can see the lockscreen before it unlocks. And it might sound ridiculous, but it can be very frustrating. I chose the 10 in front of the S7 specifically to avoid lag.
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I don't know, battery life hasn't been amazing on Nougat for me either. I don't know if I've got 3 hours of SoT on Nougat.
But it's not that much of a problem, I can always get to a charger in time. My main issue is that with sudden lag. Like one moment, the phone is all smooth, and then something lags. The best example for it is opening the phone with the fingerprint. Sometimes, it works flawlessly. It directly opens to the home screen.
But sometimes, there is a moment of lag, when I can see the lockscreen before it unlocks. And it might sound ridiculous, but it can be very frustrating. I chose the 10 in front of the S7 specifically to avoid lag.
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As for battery life, take a look at my average on the bottom. As for lag... What lag???? Just kidding, lag is the only thing I never had on my 10 [emoji1]
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Good point but theyre only £30 now? Not sure if that would sway me alone?
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My main problem is that I'm from Romania, and that's why everything is a little bit more expensive. Or it seems more expensive for me, at least.
I could get the 128 GB OnePlus 3T for around 685 USD. But then, I could only sell my 10 for maybe 600, and I'd lose the ability to use the sd card, which was 60 USD or so.
So it wouldn't be that profitable from the point of view of money. But I've heard so many things about the smoothness of Oxygen OS that it seems worth it.
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As for battery life, take a look at my average on the bottom. As for lag... What lag???? Just kidding, lag is the only thing I never had on my 10 [emoji1] View attachment 4191177
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I really don't understand how you can get this much battery life. I'll post my battery life once I'll be able, since I just charged it, but I normally can't get more than 3h SoT.
As for lag, I had it pretty worse, but then ai pinpointed my problem to my old sd card, which is why I bought my current card and then I did a reset.
And now I still occasionally get some lag on Chrome or Facebook, and while unlocking the device. And it's frustrating.
TheMadKing said:
My main problem is that I'm from Romania, and that's why everything is a little bit more expensive. Or it seems more expensive for me, at least.
I could get the 128 GB OnePlus 3T for around 685 USD. But then, I could only sell my 10 for maybe 600, and I'd lose the ability to use the sd card, which was 60 USD or so.
So it wouldn't be that profitable from the point of view of money. But I've heard so many things about the smoothness of Oxygen OS that it seems worth it.
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I really don't understand how you can get this much battery life. I'll post my battery life once I'll be able, since I just charged it, but I normally can't get more than 3h SoT.
As for lag, I had it pretty worse, but then ai pinpointed my problem to my old sd card, which is why I bought my current card and then I did a reset.
And now I still occasionally get some lag on Chrome or Facebook, and while unlocking the device. And it's frustrating.
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Chrome is a lag friendly app, so I disabled that. Facebook is buttery smooth for me. I really don't understand this battery life thing. I have 2 10s, and both have similar battery life. No wi-fi issues, no lag whatsoever, nothing. I did have a problem with one of my phones, but that was resolved with the help of HTC Croatia. They gave me a new phone because my issue wasn't solved after 2 warranty claims
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Chrome is a lag friendly app, so I disabled that. Facebook is buttery smooth for me. I really don't understand this battery life thing. I have 2 10s, and both have similar battery life. No wi-fi issues, no lag whatsoever, nothing. I did have a problem with one of my phones, but that was resolved with the help of HTC Croatia. They gave me a new phone because my issue wasn't solved after 2 warranty claims
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My battery life was pretty good on Marshmallow, I mean I certainly got the ~4 hours SoT that the reviewers were talking about. The problems started with Nougat, even after I performed multiple factory resets. I was so frustrated at a point that I installed Resurrection Remix for a while, before returning to stock.
The only different thing that I've had is that I was always S-OFF. As soon as I got the phone I used Sunshine. But I don't think that something like that could cause lag.
And I was thinking about sending the phone to service, it's still in warranty of course, but I've generally had a bad experience with stuff like that here in Romania. So I'm hesitating to send my phone away for weeks.
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I don't know, I've heard very very different in regards to the camera, I'm not a huge fan of the HTC camera, hasn't been great for a while, can take good pics but is super prone to glare and haze.
If it's just been cleaned then it's ok but wiping it every time is a pain.
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I meant compared to the s8 and and 11.
The main thing I see the one plus has going for it other than the lower price is great performance, according to reviews. The 11 has that too, so it comes down to if the price difference is worth the better camera and screen.
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Hey guys, so I'm upgrading from my old galaxy s3 tomorrow to Verizon's Edge program with my family. I'm a big multimedia user for my smartphone but I equally care very highly about durability, design, and future-proofing (raw performance). Therefore, I'm deciding between the Nexus 6 and the M9. Here's my breakdown of pros and cons:
Motorola Nexus 6 (24.99 on Verizon edge)
+1440p display
+/-phablet (I could see myself enjoying the size for videos)
+stock Google
+more likely will receive os updates earliest
-only somewhat metal construction
-about to be replaced by the next nexus only too soon
HTC One M9 (also 24.99 on Verizon edge)
+brand new
+snapdragon 810 latest cpu and gpu
+best build quality / design (big plus for me)
-eh screen size compared to competition
-1080p screen (will this really bite me in the next few years?)
-apparently a problematic device with regards to quality control?
Now: I'm especially concerned with some of the problems I've read with the m9 with regards to the poor battery performance, breaking of turbo charge with recent updates, the under-saturation of the color gamut which I didn't like seeing on store models, possible overheating which I heard was fixed before launch. Are these issues still plaguing the phone and would you stray away from the device altogether if I could instead choose the nexus 6?
Thanks in advance!
I love it, and when we get 5.1, it will be even better.
Frankly, I'm surprised that as a big-screen loving Sammy user, you don't have the Note on your short list.
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katana5 said:
Hey guys, so I'm upgrading from my old galaxy s3 tomorrow to Verizon's Edge program with my family. I'm a big multimedia user for my smartphone but I equally care very highly about durability, design, and future-proofing (raw performance). Therefore, I'm deciding between the Nexus 6 and the M9. Here's my breakdown of pros and cons:
Motorola Nexus 6 (24.99 on Verizon edge)
+1440p display
+/-phablet (I could see myself enjoying the size for videos)
+stock Google
+more likely will receive os updates earliest
-only somewhat metal construction
-about to be replaced by the next nexus only too soon
HTC One M9 (also 24.99 on Verizon edge)
+brand new
+snapdragon 810 latest cpu and gpu
+best build quality / design (big plus for me)
-eh screen size compared to competition
-1080p screen (will this really bite me in the next few years?)
-apparently a problematic device with regards to quality control?
Now: I'm especially concerned with some of the problems I've read with the m9 with regards to the poor battery performance, breaking of turbo charge with recent updates, the under-saturation of the color gamut which I didn't like seeing on store models, possible overheating which I heard was fixed before launch. Are these issues still plaguing the phone and would you stray away from the device altogether if I could instead choose the nexus 6?
Thanks in advance!
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I have held more than my fair share of m9 and not one has had a build quality issue let alone a single dead pixel. The latter actually amazed me.
With 5.1, HTC added this...
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Also, the camera has gotten much better since the launch os too.
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As much as I love HTC (aside from one Motorola and one Samsung I have had HTC phones since the PPC 6700 in 2005) and how much I love Sense, I would say the Nexus 6 or LG4. I'm really wishing my One M8 would have lasted a bit longer so I could have gotten the LG4, even with the plastic chassis. My One M9 has really been a sore subject lately, I haven't been happy with it all. I definitely got one of the terrible battery life version. It seems, I to be great battery life or like mine and absolutely abysmal battery life. Plus the cell signal on mine is pretty sad and likes to drop signal/stay in 1x mode. Coming from the Samsung, it'll feel like a child's toy compared to the M9 though, metal chassis phones feel so much more sturdy.
I was hating on the M9 hard at first, on launch day, went to Verizon, and compared to the M8 the heat was shocking and wasn't happy at all.
I decided to go for it, and I couldn't be more happy.
I loved my M8, and got great battery life on it, and at first my M8 was getting better battery life, but since the update to Android 5.1 it has been such an upgrade for the M9 in terms off heat battery and performance.
As for quality, it's top notch, not a single issue to mention.
The signal on mine is wonderful.
That's my .2 cents.
Whatever you decide, I wish you the best!
I sympathize with you OP. I've been waiting quietly on this board hoping for sunshine to drop and CyanogenMod to support the phone. I don't care for sense or any skin, although I recognize sense is the best of the skins. I nevertheless prefer straight android though and could not see myself running sense for long. I'm getting by easily on my s3 running the latest cm12 nightly. But I really want this m9 and it's driving me crazy!!!
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msolaw said:
I sympathize with you OP. I've been waiting quietly on this board hoping for sunshine to drop and CyanogenMod to support the phone. I don't care for sense or any skin, although I recognize sense is the best of the skins. I nevertheless prefer straight android though and could not see myself running sense for long. I'm getting by easily on my s3 running the latest cm12 nightly. But I really want this m9 and it's driving me crazy!!!
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Well keep note on where the Java card users are.
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dottat said:
Well keep note on where the Java card users are.
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Oh I'm well aware. I'm near state college, so I believe I would be shipping it off to you! It's more a matter of whether CyanogenMod supports this phone. At least for me. If I wanted to have to use the manufacturers take on the OS I'd just get an iPhone. Which at this point is something I'm considering for the very first time. Verizon locking these phones down like this is just an outrage.
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msolaw said:
Oh I'm well aware. I'm near state college, so I believe I would be shipping it off to you! It's more a matter of whether CyanogenMod supports this phone. At least for me. If I wanted to have to use the manufacturers take on the OS I'd just get an iPhone. Which at this point is something I'm considering for the very first time. Verizon locking these phones down like this is just an outrage.
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I work in Harrisburg and sometimes travel to state college. It would be a little drive for you lol
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dottat said:
I work in Harrisburg and sometimes travel to state college. It would be a little drive for you lol
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Haha. I'd make it though. I go to Harrisburg sometimes for work. But like I said, it may not matter. Come on CyanogenMod!
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Nexus 6. Definitely, for 2 more years of guaranteed upgrades, and for the big badass display. Oh, and the unmatched dev support.!!
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Honestly, I would say no... And I love HTC. Have had the m7 and m8-- loved them. This phone is a POS though
EDIT: And I do have the m9 BTW (typing on it right now)-not just some dude talking ish trying to troll this thread
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Honestly, I would say no... And I love HTC. Have had the m7 and m8-- loved them. This phone is a POS though
EDIT: And I do have the m9 BTW (typing on it right now)-not just some dude talking ish trying to troll this thread
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respect your opinion.
Can give reasons why, please?
I own the M9, G4, and Nexus 6.
Screen - G4, One M9 comes in a close 2nd (I mean reaaaallly close). I'm a sucker for LCD panels and the display on the nexus to me is its weakness. Whites are yellow and pink on the nexus, but you get deeper blacks. Whites are white on the G4 and M9. The is also the dimmest and has the worst outdoor disability.
Speakers - Nexus is the best to me, way louder. HTC has the better sound quality though. G4 is loud, but I hate the placement.
Battery - Nexus and m9 tie, (about 4 hrs SOT max brightness), the G4 falls short, about 2 hr 30 mins SOT (thats the tradeoff for those extra pixels). G4 does have iphone like standby time though and you can swap batteries ...
Camera - G4 1st, the nexus comes in 5th place and the m9 comes in 100th lol. Front facing - G4 edges the m9, and the nexus comes in dead last.
Root? - m9 u can unlock if you mail to or meet someone with a java card, nexus unlocks out the box, lg g4 is still locked like fort Knox. The nexus obviously has the better development community.
UI - love stock android, but will always have a soft spot for sense. LGs ui is just OK (too quirky)
All have decent reception, but the moto nexus gives me the best.
Overall, I like all three and there is not one I particularly prefer. Love the build, software, display, and battery of the m9 (hate the camera), love the screen, form factor, and camera of the G4 (hate that it's still locked and wish it had a better battery), love the speakers, size, and software of the nexus (wish it had a better display)...
Eh. If I had the choice to go back and the G4 was out already, I wouldve tried it out first. The Nexus looks good too spec wise. Looks cheap though as I have been spoiled with HTC build quality last couple years. I miss my m8 camera though. Tried to take some firework pics and videos this past weekend with my m9, not impressed. I'm on 5.1 as well. First time Samsung (girlfriend's note 4) shat all over my HTC camera. Heat and battery life aren't quite as good, especially out of the box. Custom roms and new firmware have helped with that so it's not such a big deal now. I miss the volume of the m8 as well. Overall, coming from an s3 I think it would be awesome. From an m8, maybe not the best choice. Just my opinion. I'm trying to stick with HTC. I really love their products.
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Try the M9 , I have one is very reliable
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andybones said:
respect your opinion.
Can give reasons why, please?
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Sorry...not on here much lately due to lack of root.
Anyway, reasons:
Heat/performance/battery life-- we'll put these together as they're all intertwined. Simply put, the phone gets hot doing almost anything which causes it to eat battery, and eventually, throttle.
Camera-- it's virtually impossible to take a good picture with this phone...it's almost always out of focus. Granted, I don't have the hands of a surgeon, but I didn't have these issues on my m8.
Connectivity-- I actually returned my first m9 and got another due to this issue... But the second one had the same issues. Specifically, I'm referring to Bluetooth and miricast issues. It's hard to really button these up and put them in a box because the issues are strange and intermittent: E.g., ppl can't hear me when on BT in my car sometimes, will lose connection randomly to my BT headset while working out (have exchanged headset but the issue persists). My car will suddenly not be able to access my phone's phone book sometimes... And this never happened with my m8, when streaming something to my TV, it is ridiculously buggy, losing connection randomly with no rhyme or reason... Again, I didn't have this issue with my m8.
And finally, the coating that they put on it to make it easier to grip and scratch resistant seems to have the exact opposite effect, scratching ridiculously easily. I accidentally put it in my pocket with some change once and the back has scratches all over it.
I wouldn't get this phone. I have it and especially unrooted I feel like it was a mistake. Horrible camera, back scratches if you look at it wrong (exaggerating), and it gets hot if you are doing anything taxing on the phone. The best way to describe this phone is it's one of those girls that you thought you wanted to date but all the rumors were true and youd regret it. Im switching to the Z4v soon.
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With the latest Dev updated, many reports with 5.1 that there are a bunch of improvements, including the camera. That is my only complaint with the HTC One the past several years...camera sucks compared to iPhone. Have to say, my wife/daughter and their iPhone 6 cameras are pretty amazing.
This last update that is coming down if we can get it on the Verizon by the devs with updates...should resolve a lot of issues, like the overheating, other issues...
I've got mine on the way back and ready for Rom updating...haha
I am seriously considering this option due to the poor battery life and scratch issues. Anyone else on the same boat? Just curious to know what made you think about returning the device?
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I am on the fence myself. The locked bootloader and an uncertain future regarding even a reliable root has me concerned. T-Mobile is slowly turning into the carrier I left (VZW) for them.
I believe I am going to be returning. I still have 9 days to be within my 14 day return period for Verizon. I am just overall not very impressed with the phone. I came from an iPhone 6s. The only things I have been enjoying more are the larger screen and the fact that it is ip68 resistant. I haven't been using the s-pen as much as I thought I would and the overall user experience for me just hasn't been as satisfying as I had hoped. I am also very, very unimpressed with battery life.
I think I'm going to return the the 6s and wait to see what Apple offers in a few weeks with the new iPhone. If not that, then I'll wait till early next year for another Samsung device possibly. Probably won't pre-order again either. Let others get their experience in and find out the faults of the phone before I go through ordering myself.
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I am on the fence myself. The locked bootloader and an uncertain future regarding even a reliable root has me concerned. T-Mobile is slowly turning into the carrier I left (VZW) for them.
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This is always the case regarding root and locked bootloaders concerning Samsung phones in recent years, my friend. I have been using this phone without a case and love the ergonomics of the phone. I use it mainly for business and an iPhone 6s Plus as my personal. The S-pen comes in handy with signing docs, smart select is useful, and note taking in general. I have not been happy with battery life compared to the Moto Z Force I put in the drawer for this. Overall I'll more than likely keep it because it suits my needs with business.
My screen has uneven backlighting and there is no other stock still for the phone. I will not keep a defective phone which is why I'm considering it, I am overall impressed with the device considering its features. It's a little slower than some other android phones I have used like the oneplus 3 and the nexus 6P. I think I would keep it otherwise.
SOT > 6h
No battery draining issues.
Phones are as snappy as it can be.
I suggest if you have lag issues, go to your friendly neighbourhood carrier outlet and have your device checked or exchanged.
I am using an international exynos FD model.
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I am seriously considering this option due to the poor battery life and scratch issues. Anyone else on the same boat? Just curious to know what made you think about returning the device?
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The battery life is bugging me a lot. Also, the stuttering is stupid for such an expensive phone. Lastly, it isn't enough for me to leave my iPhone. I know.. i know... the iPhone just worked. Thats it.
Anyone talking Iphone on this thread is looking for a reason to go back to that "limited" format. My device works perfect! The only battery issues i have is with my GearS2
Glass back? Broke in 16 hours. Idiotic and really, gorilla Glass? Dropped it maybe 2.25 ft. From sitting down and it shattered. Thought shattered anything was an iPhone issue. Have had nothing but Samsung since the first note. Never a case issue till 2 feet ago.
Stupid. Glass back? Who the **** cares about the back
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I believe I am going to be returning. I still have 9 days to be within my 14 day return period for Verizon. I am just overall not very impressed with the phone. I came from an iPhone 6s. The only things I have been enjoying more are the larger screen and the fact that it is ip68 resistant. I haven't been using the s-pen as much as I thought I would and the overall user experience for me just hasn't been as satisfying as I had hoped. I am also very, very unimpressed with battery life.
I think I'm going to return the the 6s and wait to see what Apple offers in a few weeks with the new iPhone. If not that, then I'll wait till early next year for another Samsung device possibly. Probably won't pre-order again either. Let others get their experience in and find out the faults of the phone before I go through ordering myself.
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Dude i'm surprised that ur not impressed by note 7 battery life (coming from iphone?)
My Note 7 battery lasts more than 2 days with SOT 8 to 9 hrs with a lot of web browsing.
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I am seriously considering this option due to the poor battery life and scratch issues. Anyone else on the same boat? Just curious to know what made you think about returning the device?
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Even though this thing runs insanely cool, I cant live without ROOT, and there is no hope for the snapdragon model that I have. N930W8.
These are the temps I get when browsing the web in Chrome:
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Dude i'm surprised that ur not impressed by note 7 battery life (coming from iphone?)
My Note 7 battery lasts more than 2 days with SOT 8 to 9 hrs with a lot of web browsing.
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Agreed this is the 1st note with good battery life. The device itself though is physically just too fragile. Samsung front, iPhone back. They testify it has gorilla glass in the back but .....
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Literally just packed my Note 7 back into its box, and being returned later in the morning. Didn't even last me a full week unfortunately. I truly wanted to love this phone, I really did, but the amount of lag that this phone suffers from is just unacceptable for its high end price.
Having high hopes now for the LG V20, and the new Nexus...
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Literally just packed my Note 7 back into its box, and being returned later in the morning. Didn't even last me a full week unfortunately. I truly wanted to love this phone, I really did, but the amount of lag that this phone suffers from is just unacceptable for its high end price.
Having high hopes now for the LG V20, and the new Nexus...
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Yes, i am holding back on the Note 7 to see what the LG brings. Looks promising so far.
HELL NO. Just got the LED case and I love it. This phone is awesome.
If only samsung would reply to my emails about the Gear Fit 2.... I submitted the redemption but no response...
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Dude i'm surprised that ur not impressed by note 7 battery life (coming from iphone?)
My Note 7 battery lasts more than 2 days with SOT 8 to 9 hrs with a lot of web browsing.
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Zero clue how you are getting that long of SOT. That is nuts. I decided not to return the phone anyway, but the best SOT I have seen so far is around 4 hours. Is there anything you have done specifically to increase your SOT. 9-9 hours is really a lot.
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Even though this thing runs insanely cool, I cant live without ROOT, and there is no hope for the snapdragon model that I have. N930W8.
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22.6 C for battery can't be right, unless you live in Alaska.
You said these temperatures are after browsing the web in Chrome?
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Literally just packed my Note 7 back into its box, and being returned later in the morning. Didn't even last me a full week unfortunately. I truly wanted to love this phone, I really did, but the amount of lag that this phone suffers from is just unacceptable for its high end price.
Having high hopes now for the LG V20, and the new Nexus...
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I will also hold up and now seriously thinking on keeping the S7 Edge which literally is the same phone... i too had hopes that diminished sadly. For years a fan of the Note's series..
I ve written an article about why the OnePlus 3 is the better phone to get here.. and why Samsung has let us down again.
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/
Before any of you return your Note 7 for battery issues, please try the steps in the following link. I along with most others had these same issues with the S7E and now many of us get 2 days and 9 hours SOT with one charge.
Follow these steps and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/temporary-fix-battery-drain-t3343415
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Before any of you return your Note 7 for battery issues, please try the steps in the following link. I along with most others had these same issues with the S7E and now many of us get 2 days and 9 hours SOT with one charge.
Follow these steps and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/temporary-fix-battery-drain-t3343415
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Thats a garbage post mate. A lot of users do even more than this. Even with 129 disabled apps / services I dont need, disabled GPS, all of the random sensors in settings, and SOO much more.. I should be getting more SOT than 6.5.
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22.6 C for battery can't be right, unless you live in Alaska.
You said these temperatures are after browsing the web in Chrome?
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My house is pretty damn cold some times lol.
I really like this phone but I want to know your opinions about if is a good buy after one year released, specially considering I want to keep it for around 1.5 years..
I'm specially concerned about battery life, good software and updates or community development, ...
Also I wanted to ask this questions about the phone:
- is there any way for recording in 1080p 60 fps?
- can you drop screen resolution to 1080 for battery savings?
-Ok google with screen off drains much battery? (Most useful feature, in my Nexus 5x doesn't drain battery due to sensor hub)
I really love the phone but I'm not sure it still worthing it considering new phones like p10 and that maybe is not so big upgrade from Nexus 5x
-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
Definitely worth buying!
I'm not having heat issues, and battery is fine considering that you can do a full charge in 1.5 hours. Camera is comparable with all the other flagships and beats many of them in many areas. Wifi is ok, never had issues that would made me consider it as "the worst thing".
It's a nice phone, very robust, and it should easily last for 1.5 years. Development/support for the phone is great and you can easily root it (which is essential nowadays for ensuring that you get the best out of your phone).
Worth buying but I'd probably get the pixel, you could wait for the S8 (if that's your thing)
Personally I'd wait for the HTC 11, I'm guessing it'll be a beast.
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If you can get a good deal then it definitely worth it. i doubt they will make a better device. i plan to keep using mine the next 2 years and never sell it. i am in love
To be fair the issues i am facing are,
Battery life can't get more than 4 hours SOT on very high usage.
very high battery drain when i go out, LTE Enabled + max brightness with normal usage.
carbon grey color scratch easily.
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-battery life is average 4.5hours screen on time, same as my previous Nexus 5X while my current phone 3T is never under 6hours based on the same usage.
-developement based on what your want. For me I only want a good kernel that work best with stock rom giving best battery life and performance, getting rid of kernel wakelocks but the problem is that you can't find a good kernel here. Some kernel arm for performance only. Phone's getting heat quickly while some base on stock and add extra features which are gimmick anyway (many wakelocks are still there).
-the screen of HTC is pinky which is a deal breaker for me. Love it more on Nexus 5X
-camera can't beat Nexus 5x.
-WiFi is the worst thing. Go think again.
-The phone is hell stable. Never giving a single issue and smooth all day. If you want a phone that just works and premium feel.
This is just my opinion.
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I don't have any of those problems. US unlocked. Good battery life. No "pink" screen. WiFi is superb. Running Viper10 3.5.0 with EX Kernel. Smooth and responsive. Does everything I want it to. I haven't seen any other phone I would upgrade to at this time. That's my $0.02 keep the change.
The phone is good and battery life exellent. Wifi could be better. But I miss security updates from HTC. No update since January.
I would suggest you to go for it, since prices are down, developer support is awesome lots of los+sense roms....perfromance is good (820 can be easily compared to 821), camera is decent enough my brother got s7 and we both click awesome pics....also with nougat voLTE is also there so worth buying it...
Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
I recommend s7 edge...best battery ever...amoled screen...killer camera...good development
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Thanks for responses. I think I will not be buying it just for the battery
In most of my phones (htc m7, nexus 5x...) battery died when going outside with LTE and high brighness
I like to enable features as google now, ok google everywhere...even google fit, that require too much battery
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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I agree with not getting it however this phone can outperform all those phones you've mentioned and their successors whilst running more things and quicker by quite some way.
It truly is a beast of a device. If you did get the 10 you would not be disappointed, I'm running the pixel launcher with Google assistant, Google allo, amongst others battery life isn't massively different from the iPhone 7, S7 edge, all the new phones and I see the day out the day out quite easily, so it does perform.
I just assumed you'd like to be at the forefront of what's out there as I would want to be, for that reason I'd hold off getting the 10, but not because it isn't a capable device, or can't run against the best other phones out there, far from it mate.
EG: I've had a GameCube emulator running Zelda the Windwaker 90℅ of the first island at near 30fps all the way, which is no easy feat.
As I said before, if it were me at this moment, I'd say the pixel, or if I was smart I'd say the S8 (if you don't mind Sammy, has to be a good phone to make up for the notes blowing up)
Personally it has to be the HTC 11, or whatever they end up calling it.
[emoji6] but thats me.
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Of course it's a capable device, just that I require a good battery life so I can use the phone as a smartphone, with everything enabled as I like, and it eats the battery so...
I don't like Samsung so I'll wait to see new htc however I don't think I get it because of the price. I will wait for a future one plus with smaller screen or a Huawei p10 when it drops its price
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I am debating about the same. I am still holding to my old M8 but the battery life is not so good and the top speaker is distorting the sound and I love my stereo front speakers. But I think I will wait for confirmation on the expected HTC 11 and see if it´s much better.
Once thing I am worried about is that we still don't even have a leak or rumor about the 11. Could it be that no 11 is coming and it´s vaporware?
Cheers
If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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If you like an all metal phone, then yes it is still worth buying it. If you'd like latest specs and a glas body then you'd better wait and get the HTC Ocean. I'm sure it will come, but HTC currently is good at keeping it's secrets, as it seems.
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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So you believe that the Ultra was an indication that the all metal chassis phone trend from HTC has ended for good?!
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Yes I'd guess so.
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I just bought a "mint" Verizon HTC 10 for only $395 from Swappa with S-OFF($25 already saved). Here is my list of factors when purchasing a phone:
I live in a Verizon only reliable area.
I will only use this type of phone: Rootable (with good development behind it), SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C
My backup LineageOS S5 is on it's last leg physically, really needed a new phone.
Prefer one handed phones.
Prefer OEM's that encourage unlocked bootloaders and rooting (HTC, LG, and OnePlus seem to be it)
Strongly prefer front facing stereo speakers.
Prefer IP68
Prefer OIS, with large megapixels (for low light)
Dislike glass phones (don't need wireless charging tradeoff for crackable back panels).
Dislike camera bumps
From that list, the Verizon HTC 10 EMEI activates easily on Verizon, is rooted, has SDcard slot, headphone jack, USB-C, 5.2 display (one handed), metal body, and OIS with large megapixelas, and is from a OEM that encourages the phone OS freedom.
The 3 things the HTC 10 fails to check for me are:
No IP68, but at least it's IP53.
No front facing stereo speakers, but at least it has 1 front facing tweeter with a sideways woofer to make BoomSound...better than most other phones on the market.
No camera bump, but I put cases on my phones anyways.
Got to ask you guys I'm undecided between the Huawei P10 or the HTC 10.. I've only had HTC's since back in the days of when they made the XDA's for O2 with Windows mobile.
Which phone would you choose.. so far the only thing I really like about the P10 is that it has 128GB of Memory and well the 6GB of Ram doesn't hurt either.
Finally I bought Xiaomi mi5s. But it happens that aosp/lineageos roms are great but camera quality and battery are much worse
And I refuse to use miui
So I'm thinking again about htc 10. My question is about roms. Since htc won't update software anymore, I would like to know if developers do the job...
I mean, are dev roms as good as stock roms? (I see it has offical support for great roms like Resurrection remix or Mokee
That would be the point for buying it or not
It also has official support for Lineage OS and they've announced it will get a stock android O update (which will probably come around January if history repeats itself). The developers are keeping up with security releases, so if that's your biggest concern then get a non-stock based rom and run with it. I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one downside to running non-stock based roms (AOSP or LOS based) is that you'll lose HDR on the camera.
For the record, I picked mine up last month. It's a Sprint model that I unlocked the sim and LTE bands on and am running it on T-Mobile.
I don't know about you but my answer is NO. This thing did not live up to my expectations at all. The specs read like they are all premium but the device is low quality at best. Using the device is an actual nightmare. The camera is a blurry mess, the GPS never locks, the file system is crap and freezes up when you try to load things. I bought into the gimmick and I lost... Anybody want to buy this piece of junk for a low price so I can buy an iphone and just have something that works?
OH... the bluetooth constantly bugs out... another thing that annoys me every single day.
I like the phone just don't love it. My Pixel 2 XL still feels better when I pick it up. What chaps my hide is when my photos disappear or when my phone app just disappears when I'm talking to someone.
The 7T is just perfect. But I won't buy newer phones if they have display a la "Samsung Edge". I hate the curved one.
I found the 5T to be super premium build quality. It's amazing. The Pixel 2 XL I bought at the same time was absolute junk. It had a noticeably poorer build quality and a really bad OLED screen.
I am getting a 7T Friday and will see if they maintained the great build quality (although I had an 8 Pro I returned for a week and it had excellent build quality like my 5T). I can't see where the OP is coming from regarding it not feeling premium? Is it just an OS perspective? I only ran OOS on my 5T for a couple weeks before switching exclusively to AOSP.
Sorry but this is nonsense! your argument is vague and silly. what is "low quality"? I still have my oneplus one, the oneplus 3t, oneplus 5t, all working good and now a 7t, which looks great and is great....
Absolutely yes! I find my 7T is perfect and worthy for the price paid. I don't have any issues or hardware errors.
Rooted and using a custom kernel
I don't know actually. I find the OnePlus phones to be still very good, but I'm kinda disappointed on how the team is struggling to keep them updated since they began to release lot of phones every year.
Plus, I like the improvements they made with the camera on the new OP8 Pro, but I want a phone that is totally comparable to iPhones/Galaxy phone in that area if I have to spend 900+ euros.
The 7T is literally perfect.
This is my first OP phone and I'd say - yes. I hope there'll be new OP phone without curved display.
If they release reasonably priced phones with flat screens. The price for the 8-series is too much considering it's a tencent phone.
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If they release reasonably priced phones with flat screens. The price for the 8-series is too much considering it's a tencent phone.
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I would gladly pay $1000 for a flat screened 8 Pro. But it doesn't exist and the S20+, even ignoring the terrible OS skin, is $1350 from Samsung unlocked. That is just too much for basically the same phone and a crippled software experience. And the S20+ has a curved screen as well! Although not as bad as the 8/8 Pro.
I have been with OP for the last 3 months, 7T is my first OP. Feel happier than with the other chinese brand X (4 years with them).
I recommend the OP, but please no pop up camera and curve edge.
I have to agree with the OP.
I'm having the exact same issues they are. Since most are software related I was hoping updates and custom ROMs could fix,a real shame there isn't any development for this device
For me 7T is almost perfect. I love it. If only battery and average stock camera indoor pic were better. I love to tinker my phone so with gcam , camera issues are solved ?. Since I don't game , so battery is enough for me to last full day with 20% left. YMMV.
I went from OP2 to HTC U11 to OP7T. Have no regrets. Will purchase OP9T if there are no better alternative. I change my phone every 2 years.
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I have to agree with the OP.
I'm having the exact same issues they are. Since most are software related I was hoping updates and custom ROMs could fix,a real shame there isn't any development for this device
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I have been with OP for the last 3 months, 7T is my first OP. Feel happier than with the other chinese brand X (4 years with them).
I recommend the OP, but please no pop up camera and curve edge.
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What brand? We want to know!
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Have you even looked in this forum for custom roms and kernels?
What brand? We want to know!
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Yes, there are as far as I know just 2 ROMs out there... Neither work with MMS on Verizon.
If you have another recommendation would love to hear it- for me just looking for stability and speed.
Thanks for everyone on this forum helping make the device great!
Yep, had three... OnePlus One, 6T, 7T (bought the 7T when the price went down, sold the 6T).
I don't buy them when they first are released. I wait until a new one is about to be released, then pick up the previous years model
typically at a reduced price.
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Yes, there are as far as I know just 2 ROMs out there... Neither work with MMS on Verizon.
If you have another recommendation would love to hear it- for me just looking for stability and speed.
Thanks for everyone on this forum helping make the device great!
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There are three ROMS available right now. I would recommend Omni for speed and stability, but not sure about your specific use-case.
IDK, no matter what setting I pick, the ringtone for google messages does not work and the do not auto update option in playstore does not work. This is only an issue on the 7T.
Hi all,
I haven't seen post about this yet.
First, a little bit of a background.
I had Google phones since it was nexus and was very pleased. Before I used to have Samsung galaxy (1, 2, 4) devices.
I started to use Pixel phones due to the stock experience and lack of unwanted apps.
This phone is the worst phone I ever used.
What we do the most of the time in our phones? unlock it! and this feature is not working (or just awful experience).
I found myself trying to unlock my phone few times until successful unlocking it (when it worked, sometimes I need to insert my pin).
I could handle with all what I'm going to write next if the fingerprint sensor would worked.
Also, let's talk about Android 12.
Let's face it, It's just Samsung One UI on another name.
And the camera, what about it? it takes the same (almost) images as my Pixel 4a 5G.
Me (and a lot of other people) can't tell the difference.
I don't believe I paid almost $1000 to get this disappointing phone.
I have few more things to write about (as how's the phone always feels hot) but that's enough for now.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience and frustrations. While many are enjoying the P6P it's expected for some to have complaints and await fixes.
My opinion differs a bit from yours.
Being on the Pixels since they were Nexus' as well, I only share your opinion about the price, which I mitigated by trading in my Pixel 5 for $420 making my 6 Pro cost $580, and that under load while plugged in it does get warm enough to feel through my case.
My fingerprint reader worked perfectly (until I installed a glass screen protector which was advertised as not fingerprint reader friendly).
After reading a few of the rooting guides, I successfully unlocked and rooted my 6 Pro on the first attempt (and I am by no means a fastboot savant), the only diff from previous Pixels is the addition of the --disable-verity --disable-verification fastboot command.
As for being the worst Pixel. In my experience the worst was the Pixel 5. Lackluster performance, no real WOW features, but great batt life.
Not trying to minimize your experience, just saying that not everyone's experience is the same, and best or worst are very subjective opinions.
I disagree, and will go point by point on why.
What we do the most of the time in our phones? unlock it! and this feature is not working (or just awful experience).
I found myself trying to unlock my phone few times until successful unlocking it (when it worked, sometimes I need to insert my pin).
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I agree the FPR is not the best, but I find it far from being bad. And I didn't even do any of the usual tricks like registering the same finger multiple times, it just works for me. Yeah, it takes a bit longer than e.g. my S21 Ultra, but not considerably more, and I've never really been in a situation where unlocking my phone half a second faster really mattered.
Also, let's talk about Android 12.
Let's face it, It's just Samsung One UI on another name.
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Then you clearly haven't used OneUI before. Sure, Android 12's design borrows some elements - mostly the good parts - but it also adds a lot of unnecessary Google clout to the interface that I found weird and not necessarily pleasant to use. But overall it's not that bad of a design.
However it's certainly NOT OneUI "by another name". Far from it. OneUI adds actually useful features (DeX, for starters), and it's generally more flexible than what Google cooked up. You should really try a more recent Samsung phone for some time instead of making stupid claims like this.
And the camera, what about it? it takes the same (almost) images as my Pixel 4a 5G.
Me (and a lot of other people) can't tell the difference.
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So just because you, subjectively, can't tell the difference, there isn't any?
To be honest, this is the best Google phone so far. All previous devices, including the Pixel 4 and 5 series, were quite lacking in a lot of departments, and as an avid Samsung user since the S8, this is the first Pixel I'm actually happy with.
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My opinion differs a bit from yours.
Being on the Pixels since they were Nexus' as well, I only share your opinion about the price, which I mitigated by trading in my Pixel 5 for $420 making my 6 Pro cost $580, and that under load while plugged in it does get warm enough to feel through my case.
My fingerprint reader worked perfectly (until I installed a glass screen protector which was advertised as not fingerprint reader friendly).
After reading a few of the rooting guides, I successfully unlocked and rooted my 6 Pro on the first attempt (and I am by no means a fastboot savant), the only diff from previous Pixels is the addition of the --disable-verity --disable-verification fastboot command.
As for being the worst Pixel. In my experience the worst was the Pixel 5. Lackluster performance, no real WOW features, but great batt life.
Not trying to minimize your experience, just saying that not everyone's experience is the same, and best or worst are very subjective opinions.
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That is OK. You allowed to have a different opinion
I think that I'm disappointed due to the fact that for $1000 phone you are expecting that amount of issues.
Regarding the Pixel 5, it is mid range phone so I didn't expect it to have performance as flagship.
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I believe that it's more than just a complaint.
I'm seeing frustrated users around the net, and no one from Google is actually addressing their problems.
Also, Along the way, the stock UI was one of the Pixels highlights, and now we are going to be the same as Samsung.
I don't want to return to the times that I was needed to root my phone (as I did on all my Samsung devices) just for give me my best experience (that most of it I had before).
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What we do the most of the time in our phones? unlock it! and this feature is not working (or just awful experience).
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The phone has been successfully rooted one day after launch, there are several guides in this subforum. I'm not sure where your exact problem is, but it can be solved, since there are dozens/hundreds of people already that use an unlocked/ a rooted Pixel 6 (pro).
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I found myself trying to unlock my phone few times until successful unlocking it (when it worked, sometimes I need to insert my pin).
I could handle with all what I'm going to write next if the fingerprint sensor would worked.
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Did you re-do your fingerprints after the first firmware update (November)? They changed the setup, the setup now tells you exactly what to do (lay downside, sides, tip of the finger) - it works much better and is more reliable. It can also be helpful to be very gently one (only slightly lay your finger) time in setup, and then next setup you press firmer.
Also, you should always add your primary finger 2 or even 3 times in total. Furthermore, do you use a screen protector? That can cause massive issues in terms of fingerprint readability.
Also keep in mind that the fingerprint scanner might have problems if you add your FP whilst having the protector on, so ALWAYS add the FP whilst having NO screen protector.
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Also, let's talk about Android 12.
Let's face it, It's just Samsung One UI on another name.
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Nah, I have to look out for Samsung here for a second, even if I despise them. This is Googles fault and Googles alone. The new Android 12 UI is a joke made for a colour-blind, 80-year-old that requires an unicolor background to differentiate between font size 40 letters & his widgets need to be the size of the moon in order to read the freakin' time. That has nothing to do with Samsung. It's a joke of an UI and Google is fully responsible and whoever signed this off in management needs to be verbally culled from all future decision making processes and be demoted to a cleaning crew.
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And the camera, what about it? it takes the same (almost) images as my Pixel 4a 5G.
Me (and a lot of other people) can't tell the difference.
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Then you don't look hard enough. The amount of detail and the supreme HDR experience are easily noticeable. The 150% more light is easily noticeable, even though there are some minor quirks in the camera software right now (lens flare, color reproduction a tad too saturated, might be intentional, I don't like it).
Not even mentioning the fact that the P6 Pro has an extraordinary periscope lens, enabling shots that your bare eyes cannot verify.
I mean, there are people that claim that 30 FPS gaming is the same as 120 FPS gaming, so in the end I guess if you can't tell the difference, then so be it. I can, and easily. It's always the question of personal taste and knowledge. I - as an example - am used to a personal home Dolby Atmos & OLED "theater" and can't stand most cinemas, since their experience is sh*t; most people will never notice, simply because they have no clue what good sound or a panel is. It matters little.
efee123 said:
I don't believe I paid almost $1000 to get this disappointing phone.
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I'm sorry you feel that way, I liked all my pixel phones, quirks or not. Maybe you should have gone for the P6 non pro, it's a lot cheaper and makes you forgive a couple minor quirks more easily.
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I have few more things to write about (as how's the phone always feels hot) but that's enough for now.
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Do you use 5G? I still can't replicate "always feels hot", I've heard it a couple times. But I'm only in a 4G area and in the last weeks mostly spend time in-doors, so only WLAN. My phone sometimes does get a bit warm, but it's certainly not hot, it's more like an almost cooled tea, yet slightly warm - level. It's noticeable, so it's more than my body temperature, but not by more than let's say 5 degrees Celcius.
You're not just tapping the fingerprint reader are you? Pressing your finger until it unlocks is much more reliable. As far as Google not addressing anyone's problems/concerns...they haven't really had time yet. Although I'll concede, saying the FPR is taking longer due to security is a pretty lame PR move considering there are reports of non registered fingerprints unlocking people's phones.
I think in a couple months we'll see updates that help with the FPR, the camera applying too much sharpness, etc. Just need to give them time to push the fixes. It's a brand new design from them, there's bound to be some growing pains. Personally I love this phone, I have no problems unlocking it, no overheating, I won the screen lottery, and I've taken some stellar pics. I do believe there are a few phones that fell through the cracks with quality control though, and the first batch has had some issues. The next wave will likely be much more consistent, and the updates will take it from an 8/10 to a 9.5
I hope.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that phones have just been really damn good for a long time, so it's becoming hard to improve. I came from a 5 year old phone and was expecting a world of difference, but in reality it's pretty much the same experience. Apps open quicker and the battery lasts longer, but the core functionality is actually a bit worse because of the finger print sensor.
Yes, a fingerprint reader that requires a second or two longer each time can add up over time
but I think the rest of the good qualities make up or an inconvenience, a recurring one at that
efee123 said:
Hi all,
I haven't seen post about this yet.
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Really???
I can only assume you never took a glance at the forum
Stop crying and return the phone. It's clearly not for you...
Honestly, with the all the negative feedback, I was hesitant to buy the phone. I got the phone eventually and fingerprint sensor is not as bad as everyone claim to be. It's pretty good for me. I am core android user and used to flash ROMs, mods, etc. I used iPhone 12 pro for last 6 months and man, ios animations are so smooth and I thought android can never have smooth animations like ios. But damn, Pixel 6 Pro with android d 12 is so smooth and pleasure to use. Only couple of complaints I have are very bad auto brightness and I just don't like the system font. Apart from that, I just love this phone. I am sure it only gets better with updates.
This is my first actual Pixel but I've owned the Nexus 6 and 6P. The Nexus 6 had issues at launch with delivery and I remember mine took weeks to get. I loved the size of the phone but the battery drained like no tomorrow and if you did any video recording for longer than 5 mins it would overheat then freeze and shut off. The speakers on the thing were amazing though.
The Nexus 6P I liked as well even though the screen was smaller. My wife and I both had one and one day hers just stopped connecting to any mobile network and it ended up being a dead radio. They also bent very easily and I had to straighten mine out after a short time.
Then I moved on to OnePlus devices as they seemed better to me than the Pixels and I stayed on OnePlus until the 8 series which I didn't like because of the side hole punch and price increase. I bought my wife a Pixel 3a XL. She uses a ton of apps and the 3a XL was a tad slow so after a year I sold it.
Then I went to Samsung and got the Note 10 Plus then the S21 Ultra but the S21 Ultra was super heavy and the photos were underwhelming to me especially indoors and the battery life wasn't too good. I bought my wife a used 512GB Note 9 which she still uses. Then when I saw the Pixel 6 Pro had a new design which I liked I switched even though I despise curved screens and I don't know why Google insisted on going with a curved one. The Fingerprint Scanner I haven't had any issues with thankfully.
The worst Pixel is the Pixel I never owned. This may be the 1st worst Pixel though as it's nothing special over and other device. I'd have to say the Nexus 6 was the worst Google phone because of the constant overheating and terrible battery life but I never actually owned any of the Pixels prior to the 6 Pro.
ram4ufriends said:
Honestly, with the all the negative feedback, I was hesitant to buy the phone. I got the phone eventually and fingerprint sensor is not as bad as everyone claim to be. It's pretty good for me. I am core android user and used to flash ROMs, mods, etc. I used iPhone 12 pro for last 6 months and man, ios animations are so smooth and I thought android can never have smooth animations like ios. But damn, Pixel 6 Pro with android d 12 is so smooth and pleasure to use. Only couple of complaints I have are very bad auto brightness and I just don't like the system font. Apart from that, I just love this phone. I am sure it only gets better with updates.
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what are you getting for battery life
hello00 said:
what are you getting for battery life
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I just have it for a day. Will update you in couple of days.
ajsmsg78 said:
This is my first actual Pixel but I've owned the Nexus 6 and 6P. The Nexus 6 had issues at launch with delivery and I remember mine took weeks to get. I loved the size of the phone but the battery drained like no tomorrow and if you did any video recording for longer than 5 mins it would overheat then freeze and shut off.
The Nexus 6P I liked as well even though the screen was smaller. My wife and I both had one and one day hers just stopped connecting to any mobile network and it ended up being a dead radio. They also bent very easily and I had to straighten mine out after a short time.
Then I moved on to OnePlus devices as they seemed better to me than the Pixels and I stayed on OnePlus until the 8 series which I didn't like because of the side hole punch and price increase. I bought my wife a Pixel 3a XL. She uses a ton of apps and the 3a XL was a tad slow so after a year I sold it.
Then I went to Samsung and got the Note 10 Plus then the S21 Ultra but the S21 Ultra was super heavy and the photos were underwhelming to me especially indoors and the battery life wasn't too good. I bought my wife a used 512GB Note 9 which she still uses. Then when I saw the Pixel 6 Pro had a new design which I liked I switched even though I hate curved screens.
The worst Pixel is the Pixel I never owned. I'd have to say the Nexus 6 was the worst Google phone but I never actually owned any of the Pixels prior to the 6 Pro.
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Man, the Nexus 6 was probably my favorite of all time.
crzycrkr said:
Man, the Nexus 6 was probably my favorite of all time.
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Loved my 6P, Never sold/traded it. Still runs like a champ and doesn't feel as old as it is
Double post, sry!
hello00 said:
what are you getting for battery life
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I know you didn't ask me, but I'm bored so I figured I'd provide a reference since everyone is bad mouthing the life on these things...
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I'm personally very satisfied. The standby life would be better if I stopped using Always on Display, but I'm a sucker for finding my phone in the dark easily
I have had a not good experience with my 6 pro!! straight out of the box first power up stuck at Google screen (had to pwr & vol+ to get it to boot) then just skipped all to perform a factory reset . Well after that I was able to set it up and within a hour it had rebooted 2 times , and has continued to reboot multiple times a day while being used or even sitting idle. So its getting sent back to Google tomorrow for "repair" so now after 5 days Its going back hope they just send a new unit. Cause even in safe mode it rebooted ,just hoping it gets fixed .
And its funny cause I picked up a std 6 (was told my pre-order 6 pro was "delayed" so i went to best buy and grabbed the 6 but after i got home and got it setup i get a email saying that my 6 pro shipped haha) the std 6 was awesome I loved it and it had me super excited to get my pro. And ever since i got it I wish I would have just kept the 6 and returned the pro. Sorry for the rant haha