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Would you recommend the Nexus?

I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan

It's a decent phone and there is still some Dev support. I bought mine about a year ago and have been satisfied. Battery life sucks compared to newer phones signal isn't to great compared to my RAZR. But all in all it having an unlocked BL on Verizon makes it all worth while. I thoroughly enjoy mine and will only move if nexus 6 is unlocked on Verizon.
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I can join my previous speakers. It has a very bad battery, it's lags often in apps and the screen is very worn because of this early AMOLED technologie, BUT if you have only 100€ its one of the better phones. I'm using it right now because my nexus 5 were broken and I really like it because it just works. However if you have $50 more to spend when you should buy the moto g. It has clearly more power and offical support by motorola.

no. this phone is terrible, and i'm currently looking into buying a replacement battery for my S3 since it's been sitting in my drawer and i have no idea where the battery went, plus it's broken
i can probably find some way to fix it on ADB, but if not, i'll just wait until i upgrade then i'll get the oneplus one
seriously this phone sucks, there is nothing to recommend about it

No man dont do it .. phone performance is pretty random, dont know why, sometimes it flies like an S4, sometimes it lagz and freezes like an S1..

I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Maximinus I said:
I've been very satisfied with my phones performance. But I wouldn't recommend it if you don't like to mess around with kernels, ROMs and settings.
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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.

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Thanks for all the responses. I actually do like flashing roms. Should've given more info in OP. I currently have a verizon s4 but since a warranty replacement a few months ago i no longer have an unlocked (exploitable) bootloader and am stuck with touchwiz roms and no custom kernels.
Use my phone mostly for web browsing, xda app, Pandora, Google music - no gaming, coupled that with the fact that i can use the $100-$125 difference I'll make after selling the s4, thought this phone might work.
Will have to think about it a bit more.
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Well, web browsing has become hard since 4.4.x. To be honest, KitKat is a mess on this phone. I hope new GPU drivers and 3.4 kernel will help.
If I were you I would buy a Moto G.

I'm using Gnex for a half a year. I bought used. So not because of data plan.
For me Gnex can still give what i need for "normal" daily use - sms, browser, messenger, driving assist, news reading, some games ....
So it depends on your need
best regards

It's a beautiful device, but it's definitely not the best. I absolutely love the unobtrusive design of the front -- just plain black. The phone is the exact right size for me, and the volume and power buttons are in exactly the right place; however the bezels are quite large in comparison to newer phones. This makes the structural integrity of the phone better, but it isn't really nice to me. The back of the phone has a comfortable plastic "grippy" feeling that makes it easy to hold, especially with the curved extrusion at the bottom by the speaker grill.
The speaker is awful, as with all Samsung devices. It's a back-facing speaker that's tiny and easy to cover up. Not much of a problem if you use earphones like I do.
It easily lasts me through a school day, though it only lasts about 4 hours streaming video. Its dual core processor is definitely outdated and consumes far more powererformance than any modern phone.
The screen is on-par with the Galaxy S3 screen, which isn't a compliment. It's low-resolution in comparison to new phones (1280x720), it's hot (as in it actually feels hot) and consumes a heck of a lot of battery very quickly. The colour is amazing, vibrant and simply gorgeous... but, within a few months, you get screen burn-in which is especially noticeable in low light -- speaking of which, the screen in low light is far worse than any IPS with a slightly grainy image, though it does retain a good contrast. Its slightly curved display prevents it from scratching anything facing down and, in my opinion, makes it easier to touch things at the top of the screen.
The phone's radio is only GSM (unless you're going for Sprint or Verizon), so if you're wanting LTE, tough luck. It also doesn't have FM or AM radio if you're into that.
The camera's not the best, but it does the job. The flash is often over-bright, and lacks HDR, motion stabilisation and is only 5 Megapixels. Front camera is 720p.
So why buy this phone? If you can get it really cheap, go for it. If not, go for something newer like the Moto X, Moto G, Nexus 5 or the upcoming Nexus 6 for a similar, updated experience.
Just remember, it's truly an Android modder's dream. It's extremely mod-able with a decent sized community. In my opinion, it is still the best phone I have ever used. I find that just the pure feeling and look of the phone is enough to keep me with it. Also, with recent additions to the phone like F2FS, graphics drivers, new kernels, new ROMs etc., the phone is still very usable for just about everything -- even most gaming.

For $100 i would buy it. The moto g is comparable and faster but almost $100 more. But I think your question is already answered
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bought mine for 70 dollars one month ago, definetily worth it.

I would much rather use an s4 with touchwiz than use a galaxy nexus. The gnex is the second worst android phone that I've ever owned.

You really can't compare a three year old phone to a phone that is just over a year old. Of course the s4 will be better but touchwizz yuck it would probably be just as slow as a galaxy nexus.
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Appreciate everyone's response, thanks

It's a good phone when it was released but the battery life is quite short even though I don't have a lot of apps on it. When the battery life is in the red, it usually last around 5 minutes then it shuts down. I think it was better than than iPhone 4 at its time since it was one of the first phone with a larger screen.

I agree with the other posts.
Honestly, I think CM10 runs amazing on the phone and the signal is actually quite good with that version. 4.4.4 doesn't do well on it for the signal...at least for me. I have been trying many ROMs / Kernels and I have the same luck with them all. I only have mine because I bought it for like $80 on ebay and still have the unlimited plan with Verizon so I don't want to upgrade to a new phone unless I pay the big dollars.
Battery life...is crap like everyone else states. I bought three batteries for this phone for that reason and always have it plugged in, which is why I actually have burn in from my apps.

I own GNex for almost 3 years now and here are few things coming into my mind right now:
Terrible camera
Terrible speaker (Very low volume)
Slow as hell
Worn screen
Incredibly short battery life
Also, with such limited memory multitasking is pretty much not existent if you like installing many apps
Honestly, there is not a single day that I don't want to throw my unit against the wall.
Do yourself a favor and stay away from this peace of junk.
N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us

rrrrrrredbelly said:
I'm thinking of buying one, it's in the price range I'm looking at ($80-$100 on swappa), and it seems like it still has good dev support.
The Nexus is almost 3 years old, those that still have it, are you keeping it because you like it, or just because (don't want to loose your data plan for example).
Thanks
Dan
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I'm keeping it because I don't have much money on a new phone and there isn't much on the market that really makes me want to spend anything.
The Galaxy Nexus is a really ****ty phone. If it wasn't a Nexus it would get zero respect from me.
I mean for an old and cheap phone, it's probably the best you can buy at this moment but I'd suggest saving a few more dollars and getting something better.

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N4 would be a much better option http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked/us
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Thanks but on verizon, looks like that gsm only.

Is it still worth buying a G3?

Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.

the G3 is definitely a very good option especially with the really high quality case with the cover that you can usually get bundled with it. Overall very good phone and I highly recommend it.
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Not to mention it's one of the cheapest flagships available, and the camera is great. I bought a Nexus 6, but returned it 24 hours later, there are simply too many features that I immediately knew I would miss on my G3, and the G3 screen was light years better.

Love my G3 had it for a few days now and its great plus when more roms dtart to come out i feel itll be perfect ??
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Great phone. Get a spare battery and never worry about battery life!

Just picked up the G3 on AT&T a few days ago after dropping and destroying my Nexus 4. So far its been great. Definitely an upgrade in the screen, camera, and battery department. The battery has been amazing so far plus I picked up a spare battery kit so now I'm never plugged into the wall...something I was used to doing on a daily basis with my N4. My only dilemna with this phone is that it's a carrier branded phone and not stock android. Luckily it's rootable thanks to some awesome devs so removing AT&T bloat is not an issue. As for not being stock android, LG's skin is pretty light with some added features that I actual welcome. A few features that have stood out to me so far are the ability to hide the nav buttons on a per app basis(thanks LG), the unintrusive popup for incoming calls, and doubletap2wake and sleep. Coming from someone in the same situation I would say do it.

imfedup19 said:
Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my Nexus 4 to LG G3.
I dont want to spend a lot of cash on cell phones, so considering the prices being reduced, is G3 still a good option? The phones looks absolutely amazing.
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I did the move and its destroys the n4 in every aspect....
However i am very unsatisfied with lgui being very laggy battery isnt the best of all either camera is actually pretty good speakers are fair also but if i could i would go with the htc one m8 in a heartbeat ! Better looking phone better software better speaker etc...
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Absolutely a great buy! I love mine! I recommend it to anyone looking for a skinned Android. The hardware is great in every way. The screen it top quality, the battery is good, the camera is really good, one of the phones with the most RAM, a up to date processor, and really good build quality considering it is plastic. The only one single hardware issue I have with it is the speaker being on the back. Don't get me wrong, it is a really good speaker. But with the speaker being on the back instead of the bottom or front, it can easily get muffled when laying on it's back. Specifically when it i laying on it's back on a soft surface like a bed. But like I said its still a really good speaker for a back speaker. It is just a very well rounded phone.

Amazing battery life, superb laser focus camera, 2k display consistent dev support. Need I say more?

I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better

Short answer: Yes
Longer yes: Yes, after dealing with the Nokia Lumia 930, 5 or 6 (now I can't remember) defective Xperia Z2, I'm now on the G3. Very good phone. Battery life FAR Superior than the Lumia, and just right below the Z2. Considering it's handling a larger screen and a higher pixel screen, I'd say it's awesome. I am a light user with about 1-2 hours of SOT a day and I go home with 65-70% every day. So it can get me through a day SOOOOO easily! Highly recommended. Camera is great, I have the 32GB/3GB version and I don't have lags. But as I mentioned before, I'm a light user. I only use my phone for pictures, bittorrent sync (folders between desktops and such), and messaging (Line, Whatsapp, Email, Forums). That's it. I know, the device is overkill for my usage, but still! I'm very happy . I'd recommend it over any other phone. The only device I could possibly recommend more is the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. I don't like Samsung's cartoony UI. And the N6 is REALLY expensive! It's 700 euros while the G3 was 450 euros when I got it. So, I can't complain!

Akhayev said:
I had samsung s4 s5 sony z2 and z3 and nexus 5 and htc m8 and iphone 6 for me g3 was the best ..camera very good and the screen awesome and the battery not bad it gives me 5 hours sot.. I didnt try n6 so i cant tell you which one is better
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Do you own a mobile shop ? Well i think giving one phone out of all the above mentioned, wont make much of a difference to u ..

Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?

Yeah!! I just bought my g3 two weeks ago, i had a oneplus before i purchased this. It feels similar to the 1+ but with the g3 the screen is better, it has a removable battery, micro sd slot and its cheap compared to some of the other flagships. Id recommend getting it
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Does 32 gb make a difference compared to the 16gb, keeping in mind the extra 1gb ram in 32 gb version? Also the quick circle case - is this a must have accessory for G3?
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In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.

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The phone is awesome! It's as powerful (and beautiful) as phones much more expensive than this. It's a shame that AOSP is not well supported yet, but the power and performance of AOSP can be acheived on LG's own rom if you know how to tweak android, both in performance and looks.
This is the best phone ever and I came from Nexus 5

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In the benchmarks the difference is very tiny. My mate has a 16gb version with 2gb and compared to my 32gb, and when youre actually using the phones side by side the different isnt even noticeable. The 16gb is also at least £30 cheaper here in the uk.
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I believe the biggest difference is when you multitask - redraws on the screen, how many apps can be left open without having to hibernate them (the system of course), wtc.
Regardless, I believe 3GB ram will future-proof it as much as possible. It has a good camera, 3GB of RAM in my version, as well as a nice screen. I think it will be a relevant phone for at least a year or two. But as with everything in the tech world... These things get outdated rather quickly.
If you're worried about buying a device that would last you for years and years (with updates I mean), maybe the Nexus 6 would be best as it will be covered for a WHILE by Google. It's absolutely the most advanced HW (processor, memory, screen) so it will be updated for a while!

If you want a G3 now, get it right now. Thanks to the open sourcing efforts of someone, LG's likely to close down the bootloader exploit in the next couple of days.
Unless you like your freedom restricted, in which case, buy a G3 whenever you want.

A very good buy the only phone in my opinion would be the note 4 to actually consider, with that said it also is the easiest root and boot right now with great support from the developers, hands down top three phone until next summer when we'll be asking each other the same question.

The upgrade from the Nexus 4 to the G3 is worth it in every way. I've had my G3 for several months now and it is a great phone.

Yes
Yes I would definitely recommend this phone for a number of reasons:
Overall screen size
Highest % of front face used by screen
4K display
Battery life (I dont do gaming)
Cannot recommend more highly
However, at the end of the day each phone has its advantages and plus points and drawbacks and you need to align your requirements with these stregnths.

Anybody planning to switch from S7 Edge and why?

I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger screen
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
- Better screen colors in basic mode, brightness
Cons:
- TouchWiz, UI not as fluid as Nexus
- All glass desgin and the edges are nice but not practical at all
- Root voids the warranty
- Exynos can be rooted but I doubt we will see custom ROMs
HTC 10
Pros:
- Better build, metal
- Better fingerprint scanner in terms of NOT having to press the button as on S7 edge
- Closer to Nexus in terms of UI and fluidity
- Better development and custom ROMs, to my knowledge root does not void warranty
- Better audio
Cons:
Nothing major so far I see, the items listed in pros in the S7 edge part are of a better quality but the HTC 10 is acceptable there as well.
I know both are great mobiles. Interested in your opinions as I have never owned an HTC before so do you think it is worth it? I can still return sell my S7 edge that I got at a good price which is equivalent to the price of HTC 10.
Thanks

Heck no.....

ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice

My wife is on her 3rd S7 since launch. I'm sure its just a bad batch of phones she's gotten. Specifically, her signal is so bad, that even the verizon tech when logged into her phone was mystified that she could do anything. Don't get me wrong, my wife likes the phone, physically. But that is about it. Its been nothing but a pain in the Arse. She almost switched to an Iphone. Its that bad.
Again, this is just one situation. YMMV,
Me, I'm dropping the LG V10 to get this phone. and the V10 is a beast, but I've come to realize, that HTC is where its at.
thanks for reading. Good luck with your decision.

Sammy Exynos versions are already getting developer support, with a few roms out.
It's the US versions that aren't getting any love.
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samitro said:
I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:

hTC is where its at!!!![emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16] OIS front and back and SOUND. That's all I need. Hehe

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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:
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clearly that says S7 and not S7 edge...
I am having a hard time deciding, I do like the S7 Edge a lot, I dont have to do stupid crap to limit my battery, and with my variant, I can tweak the sound to be louder or dual speaker (obviously not as good as HTC speaker)
It also IP68 which is pretty cool if you go to the beach and want to take picture near the water.
its gonna be a hard challenge for sure for me, I order the HTC 10 and I currently have the S7Edge for about 2 months running renovate rom, its really smooth, anyone who says Touchwiz is clunky and slow obviously hasnt touch the s6 or S7, even if they are clunky and slow, nothing custom roms wont fix, that being said, I do love HTC blinkfeeds. That exynos processor is the best to date and I'm not talking about benchmark score, I'm talking about battery life, day to day performance and thermal control. It's gonna be tough deciding, however if you know your priority of what you want, it shouldnt be a problem, unfortunately for me, I'm a phone whore.
dont let anyone here influence you by saying HTC 10, theres a reason why the S7 edge getting so much praise from everyone. Use both phones and see, HTC and Sony forum/thread are notorious for having employees coming in and prop up their phone (like that guy who post a video that is completely irrelevant to your questions and he clearly does not know anything about the S7 and S7 edge, there is custom roms for the exynos S7/S7edge), I mean let's be honest, they arent exactly doing well and who can blame them, if they dont do it, sales gonna go down, and they be out of business.
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ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice
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you know you talking about a very extreme case...putting the phone on display at max brightness, for 12-24 hours a day is not a typical scenario of an average user and even that it takes a while for it to burn in.

Thanks all for the comments. I love the s7 edge and I'm not having any main issues with it so logically should stay with the edge as no phone is perfect. I guess I'll wait before I can hold the 10 in my hand to decide.
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I just didn't get if you want nexus, buy nexus xD
Sadly I really like the edge version of Samsung and the glass... For HTC I liked the sense... Witch can't say now. So still not sure with what will upgrade. Marshmallow for M8 just ducked it up really bad... So the updates won't be problem . And what's the point to have 1208588 custom roms cuz when basically are all the same. (Except 1,2)
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I get lag on my s7 edge from time to time which is really annoying. But I don't want to downgrade in screen size either so I might go to Nexus 6p. I really wanted this phone but I wish it came in 5.5.
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I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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Have to agree, s7 edge screen is dismal tbh.phone often freezes and key pad is awful especially anything on the edge.
Ordered the 10 today..

I have switched from the edge to the 10. Imo the 10 feels much better in hand. With the edge I often had trouble with the sides registering my hand. Also I don't see the screen as a downgrade, it's beautiful.
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I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.

Triavius said:
I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.
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Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...

vegetaleb said:
Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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mouth-watering

Really like the size of the standard S7...
HTC should've had a better form factor, the S7 fits more confortably in the hand its not too tall nor is it too wide.
The 10 size is making be hesistant, but theres nothing really smaller worth having other than the S7 and the iPhone 6S (Which I've looked into also).
Like easy one handed use.

I haven't made my mind up yet but I really wish the 10 would have had a 5.5 in display. In terms of display quality I like them both the same. I just wish the HTC got brighter in direct sunlight than it does. I'm also worried that I won't be able to achieve the kind of battery life I'm getting on the S7 Edge which is why I will wait and see what others get when the phone becomes more widely available. Right now, I can get close to 8 hours SOT or 2 days of light/medium usage with the S7E.
I guess I'm just going to wait another couple weeks to see what happens after more people get the 10.

vegetaleb said:
Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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Hah, we'll see. Knowing myself I'll continue to say no to constantly trying out new ROMs at the same time as I'm downloading a new one.

Why is this phone so underrated ?

I got an HTC 10 a couple of days ago after my sister bought my nexus 6p from me, I got it thinking about getting a 2016 nexus once it gets released in Germany (usually a couplw of months after the US's release ) but now I'm thinking of keeping it.
Why is the phone so underrated? It feels noticeably faster that the Galaxy Note 7 for example and it looks way nicer than Samsung's new ui .
I still think the nexus 6p takes better pictures, but the HTC 10 runs circles on it when it comes to speed, the difference is very noticeably.
HTC can't really compete with companies like oneplus 3 I know this, but 700 euros is outrageous, with 500 they may have had a chance.
Why would anyone choose the HTC 10 instead of galaxy, which looks fancier and takes better pictures and costs the same?
Nevertheless in my opinion is the most balanced on the market right now, it didn't deserve to fail so bad.
I don't want HTC filing for bankruptcy, they build amazing , yes the 10 is on the too chunky side , but it feels sturdy.
What do you think ? Does HTC have a chance of making a comeback ?
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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.

Chad_Petree said:
I got an HTC 10 a couple of days ago after my sister bought my nexus 6p from me, I got it thinking about getting a 2016 nexus once it gets released in Germany (usually a couplw of months after the US's release ) but now I'm thinking of keeping it.
Why is the phone so underrated? It feels noticeably faster that the Galaxy Note 7 for example and it looks way nicer than Samsung's new ui .
I still think the nexus 6p takes better pictures, but the HTC 10 runs circles on it when it comes to speed, the difference is very noticeably.
HTC can't really compete with companies like oneplus 3 I know this, but 700 euros is outrageous, with 500 they may have had a chance.
Why would anyone choose the HTC 10 instead of galaxy, which looks fancier and takes better pictures and costs the same?
Nevertheless in my opinion is the most balanced on the market right now, it didn't deserve to fail so bad.
I don't want HTC filing for bankruptcy, they build amazing , yes the 10 is on the too chunky side , but it feels sturdy.
What do you think ? Does HTC have a chance of making a comeback ?
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I chose the 10 because of it's build quality, close-to-nexus feel, speed, camera, audio and more. In essence, I chose it because it was the best device that fits my needs. Not everyone has the same taste and also marketing plays a crucial role in product exposure to the popular. Product popularity doesn't affect user experience so I could care less if I own a product nobody has or likes, or how it's company is doing, this device is perfect for me.
If I wanted to buy into popularity and mainstrean, I'd have an iPhone and beats headphones.
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I don't mind that it is underrated, didn't or wouldn't matter to me. i like HTC. I don't have any of the problems some people have, call me lucky but not one HTC phone I ever had(I had them all, EVO, EVO3D, ONE M8, M9 and 10). WiFI works, speakers are good( I don't see my phone as a boombox), Sprint signal is sometimes spotty( that's Sprint). Camera is great(it's not a Nikon DSLR). As far bulky, I think the S7 Edge is bulkier. The 10 has been the best phone yet and yes I had the M8. I have no complaints.

Best phone out there for me and I've tried just about everything. Also nice to have a rare phone for a change
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@EtherealRemnant My phone is perfect in every way. No wifi, data, sound or screen issues at all. Why didn't you take yours back? Im also getting over 5hrs screen on time so battery is perfect for me. 2% drain overnight with wifi on.

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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.
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I'm shocked to see how many people care about the speakers, I'll take smaller bezels any day, I use my headphones 98% of the time and keep my phone silent all the time, I only use the speakers when I want to show a friend a video.
My device has a yellow tone area around the the lower part of the screen I'm gonna get it exchanged.
I would be all over a 5.5" HTC 10 , I know the new nexus is going to have a 5.5"acreen but with the trademark big HTC bezels +on screen buttons you end loosing 30-35% of the screen state, which is a big no. I miss the days of the nexus 5/6 and LG G2 bezels
I'd have a Galaxy Note 7 but I've burned by touchwiz all too many times, I have to stay strong this time!!
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I chose the 10 because of it's build quality, close-to-nexus feel, speed, camera, audio and more. In essence, I chose it because it was the best device that fits my needs. Not everyone has the same taste and also marketing plays a crucial role in product exposure to the popular. Product popularity doesn't affect user experience so I could care less if I own a product nobody has or likes, or how it's company is doing, this device is perfect for me.
If I wanted to buy into popularity and mainstrean, I'd have an iPhone and beats headphones.
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I always root for my favorite companies, also if a device sells well it's in the best interest of the manufacturer to update it quick and keep it working hassle free
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As far bulky, I think the S7 Edge is bulkier. The 10 has been the best phone yet and yes I had the M8. I have no complaints.
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In which way do you find it bulkier? Yes it's a bit taller and wider but it's nice , the screen is noticeably bigger , and nevertheless is a couple of grams lighter

I played with both HTC 10 and S7 Edge for a couple of days and i chose HTC 10. Yes S7 Edge Camera seem slightly better but if you learn how to use HTC 10's Camera, It takes photos and records videos good enough i would expect from a Phone. Was a pre-order which means I've been with it for quite some time and I have never ever experienced any problems like i've just read here. I give it a 5 Star

I just cancelled my order for a Note 7 to buy the HTC 10 instead. At first, it seemed like the Canadian Note 7's bootloader would be unlocked, but it isn't. The 10 is a better choice when it comes to customization and long term 3rd party support, software-wise. And it seems built a lot more durably that the Note 7. I had thought of getting one in the past, but 32 GB is very small (even 64 GB is too small for me). With an SD card, I'll do alright, thought.
As for how underrated the phone is... Good question. Part of why I had passed on it before was the small internal capacity and the high price compared to other phones. There are many phones that have similar specs but are less expensive. But I think that when it all comes down to it, the 10 is a very good quality phone, and it's more than just its specs. As for its problems, worst comes to worst, it can be exchanged.

not underrated at all....
no advertisements as usual.....
priced a little high(paid around 690USD as mine is standalone ) with less of open source so most of them are staying away from it...
very few carriers are giving it out on monthly installments....

SacredDeviL666 said:
not underrated at all....
no advertisements as usual.....
priced a little high(paid around 690USD as mine is standalone ) with less of open source so most of them are staying away from it...
very few carriers are giving it out on monthly installments....
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Here in AUS every carrier has the htc 10. But you are right i haven't seen 1 advertisement about it.

Htc never seems to advertise anymore. I remember when the evo came out, every other commercial was about it. Got me to buy one, lol.

I don't know why, either. But I don't care. The only issue I've had with mine is the screen tint, but it's gotten better with time and I honestly don't notice it anymore. It's hands down my favorite phone I've ever owned. I was thinking of the Note 7, too, but it's not an option because of the locked bootloader.

I'm not sure it is underrated ? Every review i've seen more or less says great phone, maybe one of the best on the market, I don't think HTC have a bad rep either do they ? Every HTC i've had just keeps on working and i would argue 18months down the line they work better than most.. In work we use Samsung notes and they are painful to use in comparison I can't stand touchwiz (although the actual note taking part with the S-Pen is excellent) .. I pre-ordered the 10 also, love it no regrets actually due an upgrade and not bothering until maybe lured by a nexus and a 5.5" screen...

I notice a lot of HTC haters posting lot of bad feedbacks on this great device... Besides too few ads seen on tv and a higher price when launching the product.

Cost has a lot to do with it, while I feel it's worth it at $600 USD (which is what I got it for) anything more than that and I wouldn't have gotten it. While it's a great phone, it's hard to lay down that kind of money for anything.

There are many phones over $600. In fact, some phones, specifically the 6S plus and the note 7 costs north of $800.
I'm not sure why the 10 alone gets bashed when there are phones out there hundreds of dollars more. Some are willing to pay a certain price to enjoy something. Saying X should be X amount is an opinion and is no different than saying that paying $200 for jeans makes no sense when you can buy some for $20 or even less.
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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.
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so disagree I had the S6 Edge because the M9 was too much like the M8 then I moved to the S7 edge, both of these phones were great but I couldn't fathom why I wasn't taken by them like I have been with all the HTC's I've owned and I've certainly owned a few. Then I bought the HTC10 and immediately sold the S7 edge. The HTC is faster, the signal at work is 4G on my S7 is was on Edge around most of the building, the music player has clarity and isn't oversaturated with bass like the Samsung's, the UI is more usable, especially the dialler which on the Samsung was a real frustration (coming up for air..................) I love the ice view which has so much more potential, the speakers are actually better balanced and give a clearer sound than p[previous incarnations and I actually use it more than I did the M8 boomsound, and I've got to say when I put my Bose headphones on this fantastic phone it sounds like nothing I have heard before, not to mention the customisation option this device has compared to the S7, S6.
The Samsung has a better camera and marginally better screen, the OLED screen is something the HTC 10 could have utilised for the ice view screen, the slo mo on the s7 is awesome (although I have not really tested the HTC slo mo or hyperlapse as yet) and the phone is really stylish and I'm afraid much like sex sells style does to, that's why Samsung sells so many phone despite all the superficial features on the s7.

Price new is to high. Picked one up on swappa for a decent price. wifi was kind of weak it seemed. Changed my setting from auto to 2.4 and turned off wifi calling which I don't need and wifi is good now. Phone signal is low it seems , but call quality is stellar and also very good . Never dropped a call yet.
I like HTC products and have had many, really like the 10 a lot. Build quality is excellent and the speakers while not loud sound nice and rich. Glad I picked it up.

There's not a lot i would change about the phone , an amoled screen , smaller bezels and 8 mm would have been nice and of course.... The price the htc 10 right is more expensive than the galaxy s7 edge and even more expensive than the galaxy s7 :/only geeks like us /HTC fans would choose it over those phones
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Would you recommend buying this phone in 2016?

I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.

blurhns said:
I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
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Short answer? Not a chance - purely from a development standpoint, the HTC M9 has been a staggering disappointment. We have some great folks working on AOSP-based and stock-based ROMs, but there simply isn't the breadth of development that exists for previous HTC One models. I'm not optimistic about the M10 either.
That said, the M9 is getting Android 7 (Nougat) from HTC, so we're not entirely behind the times with software updates, despite being slow (standard practice for non-Nexus devices). It is even possible that development of ROMs will continue to grow. Still, I would recommend waiting for the next Nexus phones (rumored to be released in October) and see how they compare to the current options on the market.
(As for the camera - I've never had any complaints, but I'm a pretty basic user on that front)

blurhns said:
I'm looking for a new phone on a budget and I was wondering if you guys still recommend this phone.
I'm coming from a HTC One m7 and I'm looking for the sound. I'm enjoying the earphone DAC of my old m7 and I'm an audiophille.
But some drawbacks make me think about an iphone 6 or even an s6. Mainly, the camera. Is it really that bad? I was searching on flickr for shots and they don't look as bad as the reviews say it it. And also, it will continue development. I mean, with android 7.0 just released, it will get it officially, or even a bug-less cm build? Any good mods or anything at all that can attract me to buy this device? Leave your opinion here and thanks for helping my buying choice.
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I don't really recommend this phone either. If you're looking for a budget phone... definitely go with the Nexus 5X/6P or One Plus 3 or any sub-$400 phone and put a skin over it (i.e. dBrand/Slickwraps). The sapphire screen on the back camera of my HTC One M9 has already cracked under not a whole lot of pressure applied to it some time ago and it would be silly of me to send it back to HTC to get it fixed as it'll crack again probably soon after. Camera is at best, 'meh' when it's in auto; I have the tendency to always grab photos in manual mode since I can make the photo more beautifiul. When this phone is in my hand with my pinky at the bottom holding it straight, my pinky starts to hurt because of its weight. Battery has been pretty good as I don't have a ton of apps running in the background only the ones I use daily (i.e. Snapchat, Hangouts, Maps, Messenger, etc.) but for other hardcore people who load apps onto their phone like mad... this would drain your battery pretty quick. Also YouTube videos drain the battery pretty quick from my experience LOL. If you have any questions about it, I'll try my best to give you an unbiased opinion. I still don't feel like I need to switch phones after having bought this phone on release day but quite honestly, I don't see how I could recommend anyone getting the M9 in 2016 even if it has gotten cheaper.

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Short answer? Not a chance - purely from a development standpoint, the HTC M9 has been a staggering disappointment. We have some great folks working on AOSP-based and stock-based ROMs, but there simply isn't the breadth of development that exists for previous HTC One models. I'm not optimistic about the M10 either.
That said, the M9 is getting Android 7 (Nougat) from HTC, so we're not entirely behind the times with software updates, despite being slow (standard practice for non-Nexus devices). It is even possible that development of ROMs will continue to grow. Still, I would recommend waiting for the next Nexus phones (rumored to be released in October) and see how they compare to the current options on the market.
(As for the camera - I've never had any complaints, but I'm a pretty basic user on that front)
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I can see why you can't recommend it, but I can't wait since I don't have a phone anymore. I was thinking about the Nexus 5x since i'm on a low budget but i heard it's not stereo speakers and the audio jack quality is pretty pour. i think i'll go with the iphone 6/se in the end.
Moomoomania said:
I don't really recommend this phone either. If you're looking for a budget phone... definitely go with the Nexus 5X/6P or One Plus 3 or any sub-$400 phone and put a skin over it (i.e. dBrand/Slickwraps). The sapphire screen on the back camera of my HTC One M9 has already cracked under not a whole lot of pressure applied to it some time ago and it would be silly of me to send it back to HTC to get it fixed as it'll crack again probably soon after. Camera is at best, 'meh' when it's in auto; I have the tendency to always grab photos in manual mode since I can make the photo more beautifiul. When this phone is in my hand with my pinky at the bottom holding it straight, my pinky starts to hurt because of its weight. Battery has been pretty good as I don't have a ton of apps running in the background only the ones I use daily (i.e. Snapchat, Hangouts, Maps, Messenger, etc.) but for other hardcore people who load apps onto their phone like mad... this would drain your battery pretty quick. Also YouTube videos drain the battery pretty quick from my experience LOL. If you have any questions about it, I'll try my best to give you an unbiased opinion. I still don't feel like I need to switch phones after having bought this phone on release day but quite honestly, I don't see how I could recommend anyone getting the M9 in 2016 even if it has gotten cheaper.
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I can relate to the weight issue. I hated to hold my m7 for more than 5 mins. Can't even watch youtube in bed because my hands would start hurting. And about the battery, my m7 drained it's battery in 1+1/2h of sot. that's so poor. and i changed the battery twice. I enjoy HTC only for the acoustics, but as I said earlier, i think i'm going with the 6/se for it's dac performance and mostly "just works" theory. I'm kind of sick of android and it's optimization.

blurhns said:
Thanks a lot for your reply. I can see why you can't recommend it, but I can't wait since I don't have a phone anymore. I was thinking about the Nexus 5x since i'm on a low budget but i heard it's not stereo speakers and the audio jack quality is pretty pour. i think i'll go with the iphone 6/se in the end.
I can relate to the weight issue. I hated to hold my m7 for more than 5 mins. Can't even watch youtube in bed because my hands would start hurting. And about the battery, my m7 drained it's battery in 1+1/2h of sot. that's so poor. and i changed the battery twice. I enjoy HTC only for the acoustics, but as I said earlier, i think i'm going with the 6/se for it's dac performance and mostly "just works" theory. I'm kind of sick of android and it's optimization.
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The iPhone 7 & the new 'nexus' phones are right around the corner; I suggest you wait a bit before then. I have used an iPhone 6 for several months prior to getting the M9 and to be honest the fingerprint sensor on it is REALLY unreliable when you have the slightest amount of water or dirt on your finger (and quite slow and worked maybe 75% of the time with a super clean thumb). The SE model uses the old fingerprint sensor found in the iPhone 6 so it'll be as equally as bad. My ex had the iPhone 6 for a while and the battery literally crapped out less than a year so be sure that if you're planning to buy a used iPhone 6 off of Craigslist or another similar website, that it is still in 'decent' condition. Your option for the 6 is either a 16GB iPhone (~10GB of space) or a 64GB (~59GB of space) so if you need more than 10GB, a 64GB iPhone in good condition will still set you back ~$600-650.
Only reason why I ended up coming back to android was because I felt iOS was really basic at best and I truly did miss the customizing aspect of android. I recommend just buying a used phone to use for a month or two off of Craigslist that's ~$100 and purchase the newer phones (iPhone 7 or Nexus) after they have been released.

A compromise might be purchasing a used smartphone to tide you over until the new wave of Nexus phones and iPhones come out. A bit of purgatory, but it might work in your favor.