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[Q] Galaxy Note 8 - is it worth it?

Hello mates.Im still thinking of buying this tab,but why is his popularity so low? I mean not many roms,topics etc about it in forums.. Is there anything wrong with it? Havent seen the tab yet(only reviews),only saw and played with ipad mini,but I think this one is better.Would you advice me to buy it and why?
Thank you
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Yes...go for it. I' ve replaced my Note 2. 7' Tab is small and 10' is too big for me. 8' Note is not mass market product, but just in between Note 2 and Note 10 solution with perfect performance and everyday use/ carry around. I use it as well as my primary phone, navigation, multimedia and personal computer.

The "problem" you see here relates more to the very niche market for a device like this in its price range when compared next to something like the Nexus 7 and even Samsung's other 7 inch tablet. So on price alone, its going to struggle a little when you have so many quality options for half the price in many cases. For example, the iPad mini is $100 less, you could buy 2 Nexus 7 16GBs, or hell, I've seen referb Nook Colors going for $60 so you could almost buy 7 of the damn things. What they all lack, however, and what sets this apart for those that need the feature is the Wacom digitizer. Yes, that little pen is the source of the fuss. If you're the sort of person who values hand written notes or loves to doodle in a way that no other tablet in this form factor is capable of (even with a third party stylus), then thats all the reason you need to pick up the Note 8. Other reasons would include the super thin body or large screen size (or you have some creepy love of IR blasters), but the pen is the point here.
This all means, sadly, that we won't ever enjoy the flood of rom options other devices enjoy. Sure, there will be some in time, but I'm not holding out for a solid, feature filled port of Paranoid Android. Instead, I'm doing with the majority of Android users are and just making due with what I have and honestly, the things I love outnumber the things I hate about TouchWiz.
At this point, I can't see myself ever going back to a "normal" tablet again (which will really suck if they don't make another one lol).

It's awesome. Don't hesitate.
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I helped organize a Nexus 7 32gb 3G for my mother, and was suitably impressed with it.
I also own a HTC Sensation... which I was also suitably impressed with 2 years ago when I bought it.
I also have to my name an i5 Desktop + Wacom Cintiq 12wx.
So, yes, you guessed it... I like digital art / image manipulation. I also enjoy keeping journals and 'writing' stories... yes, WRITING, not 'typing'... when I sit infront of a keyboard and see the words spill from my fingertips in clinical neat text, it kinda kills the creative process for me...
So you can understand that the note 8.0 *BLEW ME AWAY*
It's as if someone out there decided to design a device *just for me*. It's the perfect size, perfect weight, so comfortable to hold, handwriting recognition is superb, and the sensitivity of the S Pen is second only to the Cintiq experience...
All i need is a means to fine tune the sensitivity of the S Pen for my drawing style and I believe I would actually prefer the Note 8.0 over the Desktop+Cintiq as a drawing medium.. I've only had the tablet for a few days, so I may still be able to figure out how to do this. If, however, the calibration must stay as it is... it is still an excellent drawing experience and, as I said, second only to using a full-blown Cintiq.
Like others here I'll never be buying a tablet again that doesn't at least match the features and convenience of the Note 8.0.
I'm very excited to see what they do with the Note 8.0 v2 + v3... and if for some odd reason, this is the first and last in the series... I'll be keeping this tablet... and keeping my eyes open for developments in the Surface Pro line (it's still too bulky/heavy to be a concideration for me at this point in time).
Bottom line:
Are you an artist / designer and do you prefer handwriting over typing?
If yes, then I can see no better option for you in this form factor. The price is well justified.
If no, then although it is a superb tablet that trumps the Nexus 7 in every way... the price will be hard to justify. If you're not going to put the Wacom Digitizer to work for you, then only buy this tablet if you have money to burn.

FaeMinx said:
All i need is a means to fine tune the sensitivity of the S Pen for my drawing style and I believe I would actually prefer the Note 8.0 over the Desktop+Cintiq as a drawing medium.. I've only had the tablet for a few days, so I may still be able to figure out how to do this. If, however, the calibration must stay as it is... it is still an excellent drawing experience and, as I said, second only to using a full-blown Cintiq.
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See this page...
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/05/how-to-adjust-s-pen/

Thank you for all your help friends . I currently own a Nexus 7 ,but I dont have 3g and thats killing me. Personally I was viewing Ipad mini and Note 8 . In fact in my country and my calculations for the 3G version price is likely the same.The only thing I love in Ipad mini is the app store (many many apps) and the accesoaries for the Ipad (docks and etc) If we remove this the Note 8 has everything.
I`ll think a little more and maybe decide the Note 8.It will cost me like 450~500$ with a contract for 7$ per month for one year and Im getting 3000MB high speed 3G.
Here the Apple Ipad Mini costs like 500~550$ ,but without any contracts .

linkenhtc said:
Thank you for all your help friends . I currently own a Nexus 7 ,but I dont have 3g and thats killing me. Personally I was viewing Ipad mini and Note 8 . In fact in my country and my calculations for the 3G version price is likely the same.The only thing I love in Ipad mini is the app store (many many apps) and the accesoaries for the Ipad (docks and etc) If we remove this the Note 8 has everything.
I`ll think a little more and maybe decide the Note 8.It will cost me like 450~500$ with a contract for 7$ per month for one year and Im getting 3000MB high speed 3G.
Here the Apple Ipad Mini costs like 500~550$ ,but without any contracts .
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As others have said. The price of the Note is almost purely based on the Spen / digitizer technology with in it. To decide if it is worth it, you need to decide if the added functionality that technology brings is of benefit to you.
If you dont draw, or dont think you will be taking hand writen notes, then there may be little benefit of this tablet over a cheaper android alternative. My advice is, if you want to use the Spen, then the Note 8.0 is the perfect companion, if you dont, wait for the new NEXUS to be announced and either buy the older 7 at a discount or wait for the newer one (or do the same with the ipad mini. cant be too long before a newer version is announced).

hertsjoatmon said:
See this page...
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/05/how-to-adjust-s-pen/
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Thanks for the link! After reading that... I'm a little nervous about possibly screwing up the sensitivity that I have - after all, there's nothing *wrong* with my pen, it's not wonky at all... I just would love to be able to map out the pressure gradient curve like I can do via software for each of my Cintiq pens (I have them all - Airbrush, 6D Artpen, Grip Pen and Classic)... So I'm going to continue looking for a software solution. But if one doesn't turn up, I'll probably buy an extra S Pen to fiddle with mechanically.
Thanks again.
linkenhtc said:
Thank you for all your help friends . I currently own a Nexus 7 ,but I dont have 3g and thats killing me. Personally I was viewing Ipad mini and Note 8 . In fact in my country and my calculations for the 3G version price is likely the same.The only thing I love in Ipad mini is the app store (many many apps) and the accesoaries for the Ipad (docks and etc) If we remove this the Note 8 has everything.
I`ll think a little more and maybe decide the Note 8.It will cost me like 450~500$ with a contract for 7$ per month for one year and Im getting 3000MB high speed 3G.
Here the Apple Ipad Mini costs like 500~550$ ,but without any contracts .
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Do you own any other Apple products? Have you already made significant purchases in the Apple app store you want to use on your tablet?
If not, and it's just a case of which is the better tablet... Go for the Note 8.0.
In my opinion, the iPad Mini and GNote 8.0 are not even in the same class of device.
iPad Mini is appropriate for the mass-market consumer who is primarily concerned with consuming content. It's easy to use, especially for people who are not all that technologically skilled.
GNote 8.0 is aimed at power users, creative professionals, and discerning creative hobbyists who are primarily concerned with *creating* content... but who also want a top class media consumption device as well.
If you have any interest in creating content, then it's a no-brainer.
But like I said, if you aren't really going to use the Wacom Digitizer all that much... then the iPad mini could be the right device for you... even though it makes me cringe recommending an Apple product to anybody.

Ill go for the Note.Ill go and order one.Thank you all
And about thias 25$ gift card - it doesnt depend from what country you are ,right?
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linkenhtc said:
Ill go for the Note.Ill go and order one.Thank you all
And about thias 25$ gift card - it doesnt depend from what country you are ,right?
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You need to check with whoever you are buying from. As far as I was aware, the gift card was only available to US residents.
As I live in South Africa, I got other extras... such as a free Official Stand Pouch, a 16gb MicroSD card, 2 year warranty, and two months free internet with MWeb (which i'm not using as I'm with another service provider - I bought mine outright, i.e. not on contract).

Juvenall said:
The "problem" you see here relates more to the very niche market for a device like this in its price range when compared next to something like the Nexus 7 and even Samsung's other 7 inch tablet.
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Bingo. The Android tablet market is dominated by low priced, low spec devices (at least in the 7 to 8 inch form factor). And this has worked to get Android tablets into people's hands and steal market share from the iPad. The N8 is targeted towards users who actually value a premium device, and are willing to pay a bit more. Unfortunately, we are in the minority.
Yes, the N8 is not going to sell in huge numbers, and that means less developer interest. But all that is needed is a few good developers. We already have some good looking contributions, and this will continue to grow. My previous tablet was the HTC Flyer, which arguably had a worse market penetration problem than the N8 has. The Flyer was more expensive ($499 US at release), and the tablet market was much less mature at the time (much less people interested in buying tablets). The Flyer sold in very low numbers. But even so, it had a fair number of very good developers, and a decent number of ROMs. More than sufficient, IMHO. In the end, you don't need dozens of ROMs. Just a decent selection of good ones.
I don't see the trend towards cheap Android tablets changing anytime soon. The Note 8 is easily the best Android tablet around in the "smaller" (7 to 8 inch) form factor, and I'm willing to bet that will remain the case for some time.

That is just it. This tablet is NOT just about the pen. It is a really fast tablet too. Much faster then the Nexus 7 or just about any other tablet out right now. It is smooooth. The screen is the perfect size too. I had a Nexus 7 and returned it because I couldn't stand how slow it was. I have a note 2 and it is nice to actually have a screen large enough that the multi window feature may actually get some use too.

As a consumer, I love my Note 8 (speedy, responsive, relatively okay battery life, etc everything else ppl said)
As an Android/Linux dev, I lament the fact that because this thing costs so much, it is just statistically less likely to get huge momentum behind it.

I don't know, from a practical point of view this tablet is a better buy than an ipad mini. It does cost a little more than an entry level mini but does the mini have expandable storage, usb otg support, multi windows and a pressure sensitive stylus. If I were Joe Public I'd certainly consider getting one as it offers quite a bit more value for just a little extra investment.
Sent from the mighty Note 8.0

I sold my Note 2 ans Ipad Mini 64GB and replaced them with a Note 8.0 w/ 64GB SDCard and am much happier now.
As for the $25.00 Play Store credit , That is for the WiFi model only checks serial # ( US Only ? ) . 3G versions do not qualify.

planning to get one, how is it?

I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.

Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.

skeeterpro said:
Have had mine for about right hours now. Was thinking of moving down from the 10.1 to something smaller for a while now (GT7.7 is current daily driver). The 10.1 is a great tab but the size is a bit too cumbersome for me. So far, very impressed with the overall experience. Typical quality Samsung build. Got root (MSkip's Tool Kit) no issue. Lecture Notes perform well. Will be doing more as the days go by for meeting notes.
You notice that at first the available space is limited to around 9GB. Plan to add a uSD you'll probably need it.
Screen is same resolution as 10.1 but looks a bit better (smaller screen size helps).
So far it's a keeper.
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thanks for the info!

Yea I use mine for college... works well but you will need an sd card. Take a look at the new nexus 7 aswell.
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Honestly, if you want the spen, there is no real alternative. It's very light and thin... perfect for carrying around in public and taking notes.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291973
Here's my thread on my experience

I have had mine for about 2 weeks now and love it. I primarily bought it for the S Pen to use during my meetings at work and my classes at night. . I will say that I am still getting used to writing with the S Pen. I still have issues writing certain symbols and letters with the pen so I am not effective as I want to be. Hopefully that will change soon. As many have said, if you think you will use the S Pen feature a lot, I would highly recommend it. If not, for a cheaper price, I would look at a few other tabs out there.

I would say that unless you want/need/would use the S-Pen, the new Nexus 7 would be the best route to go....and it's half the price. That said, this is the best tablet in it's class for pen support.
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I noticed some people mentioning the Nexus 7, but it has its own drawbacks. Benchmarks posted on Youtube, show the Note 8.0 still beating the new Nexus 7 in some benchmarks. The gpu on the Nexus 7 probably is faster though.
But the Nexus 7" screen really is actually smaller than 7", due to the command buttons being on the screen itself. The Note pen also has more uses than just writing. I find the pen great for selecting items that are in tiny print on a web page, you can also view drop down boxes on websites with the pen by hovering the pen over them, something you can't do by hand.

Note 8.0 is so worth it imo. I wasnt sure like u, but I just went for it cause I wanted a tablet not big or small so of course tried 8 inch and havent regretted it. But I must admit, stock rom (out of the box) I did not like it. I was close to returning it but decided to root and installs civs rom. Since then, my tablet is pure awesome. To me its an ordinary tablet like theothers just has some special features which is modtly the spen and some spen apps.
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Very happy with this good battery life, smooth system, great performance :thumbup:
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im considering this myself. I was wondering, however, has anyone taking notes with the note 2, and how is it? I'd rather wait for the note 3 and basically compact all my devices into to one thing if possible.

Anyone know what gpu the Note 3 is getting? I'm only curious because that's what the Note 8.0 successor will be getting next year...
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thank you guys, i got one today!! although the new nexus is nice, i wanted the s pen!

Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...

Bulishor said:
Has Samsung made any announcements as far as the next generation of the Note 8? I love the S pen but I really need a display higher than 320 ppi...
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not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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brecklundin said:
not being a PITA but really would love to know what you'll be using yours for that truly requires that level of pixel density? We are always seeing new uses so it's great to share your use.
My use is just text with a handful of sketching so a screen PPI of 170ish is OK. Butaeyonehas different needs.
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All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.

evernote. lecture notes, audio master floating, multiwindow. s pen perfect for notes
pham818 said:
I'm planning to get one for college, how is it (overall)?
but if you're a student using this, please let me know too.
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I've been using the note 8 for a while now and if what you want is work and note taking...it's just perfect: here's my set up for note taking:
1) With multiwindow on...
2) EVERNOTE on the left panel (window). --yep EVERNOTE supports MULTIWINDOW hurray!!!!
3) Lecture notes on the right panel(window)
4) Audio Master Floating....floating around.
I know evernote has skitch but switching between this and the main app loses valuable time when you're taking down notes. it's much easier to jot down text on evernote and scribble into lecture notes (side by side)...then if you're done with the lecture, you can just export the entire lecture note scribble onto evernote and everything get's synchronized...plus if you don't wanna export to evernote...that's fine too since images are really a lot of data to upload.
I know evernote also has a built in recording function but again switching between that and the actual text app again loses valuable time, Audiomaster floating is fast, pumps up the voice recording volume (if the speaker is far) and you can save the audio under various formats...and it can record while you write....I know lecture notes has an audiorecorder as well but as I said, it's much faster to have all three options available instantaneously while taking down notes and that's all made possible by...yep,...you guessed it...the note 8.
final APPS:
5) ES file explorer, camera ace on your android phone and FOLDER SYNCLITE:
--SET up es file explorer as an FTP server on your phone or tablet and assign a folder to store all your lecture pics (to be taken for a particular lecture) using camera ace on your phone. Then set up folder sync lite to synchronize those folders between the note 8 and you're android phone...voilia...no more flailing around the large note 8 to take pictures,,,you can take pics with your camera phone (less bothersome) and synchronize it striaght to your note 8 to annotate powerpoint slides captured directly from the phone but edited more efficiently on the larger screen of the note 8 (no internet requiring drop box or other cloud storage service required). This one I haven't had the chance to do yet...But I believe it is possible...
I know all these individual apps are already available on other devices...but none of these even come close to the sheer..."multitasking behemoth" that is the note 8. Actually, the "behemoth" would be the note 10 (which is also great for that size category) so this would make the note 8 the porsche....really easy to slip into a large enough coat pocket (side pockets of course). Built in 3G also adds functionality for early cross referencing using the internet.
Battery life is good...lasts a day (one app at a time use)...but when I use it for this type of simultaneous multitasking (s pen, hover, constantly updating evernote with imports from lecture note), it will probably only last half a day...still no tablet out there can do the same I think in half a day...You can always go back to one app at a time note taking to get the regular bat life...but the option for true multitasking will always be there.
note 8 is expensive but as the name emplies...It's for hard core note taking....
Just my 2 cents worth...good luck to you on your decision.

The Note 8 is a fantastic tablet. While the specs of the new Nexus 7 look impressive for the price, I find 7 inch screens too small. For me 8 inch is the perfect size. Also I actually like TouchWiz and prefer it to stock Android which looks kind of dull.
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Bulishor said:
All my books are digital now and unless the display looks like a page (pixels are indistinguishable), my eyes get tired after about half an hour of reading.
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I had a suspicion it was reading. I've been a longtime ebook guy so I know exactly what you are saying. Better fonts help some folks but not always.
As an aside for the N8. I set the system font to...ROSEMARY @ normal font size plus legibility set to ENHANCED and have been pleased. weirdly COOL JAZZ set to LARGE works for me as well. Those fonts are two I would never have considered because I am a pretty plain & boring Helvetica sorta guy but on the N8 they simply work for my eyes... who knew??
For me its the lighter weight fonts and smaller text where resolution becomes critical. Luckily for me there is something about the way Samsung seems to manage the color temperature of the backlight which helps me a great deal.
My Asus TF 700T (Transformer Infinity) has a lot higher PPI but I find I prefer the end result on my Note 8.0 over reading on the larger device. I will add I haven't put in any reading sessions ( literature not mags) > l-hr. on the N8. So how my eyes feel is still not fully determined.. I do use it all day long and several hours each night.
I have noticed we might have begun to see a return of importance of screen refresh rates. I suspect rhe IPS-type panels aredoing things to make them useless power but at the cost of eyestrain returning. d wish he trade rags had the stones to do real reviews like in the 80's & 90's but fear those days are long gone.
I still do most all my novel reading on my Kindle II.
Thanks for elaborating I'm sure it will help others trying decide which way to jump.
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[Q] Note 8 vs Note 10.1

Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.

happydisorder said:
Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I'll attempt to help you out. Never used a Note 10.1 but have read many posts from users that have both. Most feedback is exactly what you stated. Note 8 has a better screen, speed/smoothness, and feel to it. As for reading books I'm not sure but for me the 8" screen is about the perfect tablet size. If you use the tablet at home primarily than a 10" tablet would work out fine. However if you plan on carting the thing around my opinion is the 10" tablet is a bit cumbersome.
As far as I know there is no official Samsung 4.2.2 release. The build being used currently is a beta leak. However, I'm running a 4.2.2 custom rom and it is 100% stable, has floating multiwindows like the Note 10, and is smoother than 4.1.2. The Note 8 may never see an official release because Samsung might just jump right to 4.3. I would think something should be released in the near future.

Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?

err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/

happydisorder said:
Thank you, CCallahan!
I was convinced to get Note 8 when I saw this promo that put the choice in my personal view and not exactly in the price.
I would like to get around with my tablet as I'm doing some academic works and I would use it at home for entertainment since my notebook can always do the hardwork here. I do work with video so I would like to get a nice screen for viewing pics/videos, image quality is pretty important here (considering the Note 10.1 screen). I have another doubt about web browsing (I'm putting this things cause I've never tried both tablets on my hands), but in video reviews the Note 8 seems to get it done as well.
I'm voting on Note 8 as I only think in Note 10.1 for its screen size.
P.S.: what do you mean when you say "I would think something should be released in the near future." Do you mean a new GNote tablet or that Note 8 could get 4.3 update?
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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The note 8 is a great device. . Better than the note 10.1
If you don't do much reading... and don't need spen ..get the nexus 7 2013. ..it has an amazing screen and the speakers are awesome... and the price and updates are unbeatable.. (just got it too)
Also consider the new LG gpad 8.3 inch tab which had been announced
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happydisorder said:
Hello, everybody.
I was looking to buy a Galaxy Note 8 for the past weeks, reading forums, reviews, etc. I really like it for the SPen, Quadcore and for being 8 inch. Then I saw a promotion on Note 10.1 which is the cheapest I've ever seen. Well, the difference between Note 8 and Note 10.1 prices is only $28 (Note 8 as more expensive). Both of them only wifi version.
Considering the image quality, the updates, the lightly fast processing, the light weight and new technology on Note 8, I really don't know what to do. I mean, 149ppi of Note 10.1 is really annoying and its weight is not comparable to Note 8 (but the weight is not a really problem to me).
On the other hand, I'm just thinking if I would be pleased in watching videos, reading books or other results with images (photo, games) with the 8" screen. What would be better in general for you?
P.S.: The Note 8 wifi only has a samsung official update (on-the-air) for Android 4.2.2?
Thank you all.
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I have a tab10.1 and a note 8.0.
I use both for:
Internet, Email, movies, games. reading books and magazines.
Advantage 8.0: Weight, size
Disadvange: The only real disadvantage compared to the 10.1 is when reading magazines. Have to zoom in a lot and then lose track
8.0 goes on travel, I find the 10.1 to big for on the road.
Im just comparing form factor, not the actual devices.

Ok!
edan1979: Thanks for the link, i'm going to ready some stuff about that. I was confused about the update being for 5010 or only 5000 but now I understand.
pakure: I'm choosing Note series for reading and Spen for writing in first place and to see as well if I can do some others creative works with the Spen. Anyway, I will be watching a lot of stuff ocasionally and gaming but I'll be primmarly focusing on Spen and reading/writing. And getting a good use of its quadcore.
HANSB57: Yeah, I like your comparison from having both options. I like the portability for travelling and walking around with it. I would really like a Note that would be possible to carry around a lot, everywhere. Something light but with a screen able to do multitasking, easy to write/read, to anotate, to watch videos and to edit imgs.
I have two days to make my choice and now I'm going on Note 8.

Thexgn fine
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I was wrong about 4.2.2 obviously. Did not realize some 3g models were currently getting that rolled out.
What I meant was since 4.3 is already out some manufacturers such as HTC are choosing to bypass a 4.2.2 release and go straight to 4.3 on certain devices. Thought this could be a possibility for some Samsung devices as well.
As for web browsing on the Note 8, I was pleasantly surprised with how quickly it loads web pages. I have an S4 as well and the Note is much faster.
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I understand! Since my option is N5110, I'm on wifi only on 4.1.2. I'll be waiting that future update to really come. Let's see what Samsung is capable of. It shouldn't exist that kind of OS politics. It's such easy to get these updates in new devices.

After knowing your device requirements,......I suggest you get the note 8.
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err we do have the official release of 4.2.2 on note 8 but the last release was for germany & asean region. but the features are less then what we expected... plus some feat missing.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/12...e-rolling-out-to-galaxy-note-8-0-3g-gt-n5100/
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But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.

lanwarrior said:
But this build have issue on S pen accuracy. There is a thread on this.
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Yeah some got issue with the spen. But some dont have this problem. Its ok on my device.
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Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!

I have owned the 10.1 and now the 8.0. Writing is fine on either device. I'm taking college courses at night and I prefer the 8.0 for portability. The speakers are way better on the 8.0. My biggest issues of the 10.1 was the screen, being bigger but the same resolution as the 8.0 was just blurry enough to be annoying. It's a bigger issue than one would think. Also its hard to hold without being in the way. where as the 8.0 is nice for ebooks and surfing the net.
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happydisorder said:
Yeah, pakure.
I have three last important questions! I need to read PDF as results of books scanning. Is it fine to read these PDF files that are in landscape orientation? I mean 2 pages side by side in one landscape pdf page. Is it possible to read at least holding the Note 8 in horizontal view?
The second question is that I read about a 32gb microSD size limitation at samsung official user manual. But in gsmarena (for example) I can see the limit up to 64gb. Well, I would like to know if is it possible to put a 64gb microSD on Note 5110.
And the third one is about the speed limit. Which should be the ideal speed for getting a microSD card? Thinking about external read/write maximum speed allowed.
Thanks again, people!
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1. i think you need to zoom it a lil bit. depend on the book size... if the scan book are big you might not see it.
2. 64gb class 10 working fine. i use it on my note 2 and this note 8
3. go for class 10.

sdelliott31: once gain it's very good to listen somebody who owns both tablets. I'm really appreciated in choosing Note 8 for the pointings that you've said.
edan1979: ok! I'll need just a few books with that kind of display (horizontal 2 pages viewing), but it'll be ok zooming in particularly cases. And for the speed, I'll be glad to go for up to 30MB/s class 10 card.
Getting a option now shoud be easy after your support. I'll be getting back soon to the forum to share my experience with other users!

I used to own a Note 10.1 and now have the Note 8.0.
I would say it's a slightly better experience drawing and writing on the 10.1 because of the extra screen size.
Multi window is also more useful on the larger tablet, battery life is longer and speakers are louder.
The 10.1 also has a true tablet ui while the Note 8.0 has in effect a phone ui.
Having said all that I sold the 10.1 once I got the 8.0 for the following reasons.
As others have mentioned the 10.1 is just blurry enough to be annoying. It is more of an eye strain to read text on it than it is to read it on the Note 8.0 inspite of the larger physical size of the screen. Also the colour rendition seems better on the 8.0. The 10.1 colours seem slightly washed out in comparison.
There are times where I feel a little cramped writing on the 8.0 but these moments are hardly worth worrying about in comparison to the advantages of the smaller form factor. The 10.1 is more cumbersome to carry around and it's significantly heavier so it starts to get tiring to hold after a time. The 8.0 is also much easier to type on while holding it in portrait mode. While holding it in both hands your thumbs can easily reach all the letters.
The 8.0 also seems smother overall. The 10.1 can exhibit a little lag at time, for instance a slight delay when trying to switch apps via the recent apps button. It's still a good performer but the 8.0 is just very slick and smooth almost all the time.
Battery life on the 8.0 could be better but it's enough to get me through an 8 hour day on a full charge. I guess Samsung had to make a trade off here - a bigger battery would mean more weight and thickness so the device wouldn't feel as amazing as it does in the hand.
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they actually could do better with the battery... my old 7.7 equip with 5100mah

I own both tablets. I just got the 8" because I used to have a tab 8.9 and I thought that was the perfect size for a tablet. This one is close, more similar to a moleskine notebook.
I'm a graphic artist and honestly the resolution never bothered me on the 10". Sure you can definitely make out the pixels, just move the screen an inch away or, as a personal trick I use an anti-glare screen protector. The suddle fuzziness blends the pixels together removing the aliasing that everyone hates. Plus it makes it look more natural (prints are not extra sharp), less reflective, helps finger gliding and gives a feeling of paper when using the pen.
That said I think the 8" is better for being more portable. And that's all you really should want from a tablet. Also the pen is slightly smaller but more round and easier to hold.
I'm currently using it with a SanDisk ultra 64gb sd card and it doesn't have any problem reading it. (Both tablets didn't).

dr.mOX: yeah, once gain 10.1 battery and screen size seems to be the point to make this decision sounds hard. But for Note 8 being smoother, newer and lightly portable is what should matter. I'm thinking over and over, but each time I look around it really looks like a certain decision on Note 8. As what you've said, trades are made for better experiences in another ways. For the Phone UI, it's a little thing, but it's a different thing. Anyway, it should be fine in portrait mode.
DBBGBA: Nice to read it. It's very important to be very close to "tablet experience" to me as with notebooks we can do some working with a restricted, but possible, another kind of portability.

Is it worth upgrading from a Note 10.1 2012?

I have an original note 10.1 and i'm wondering if any of you have upgraded and if you think it was worth it.
The s/w looks quite different, maybe a question of personal taste.
I think the best part will be the resolution increase but i'm not sure if you notice it that much.
thx

temp9300 said:
I have an original note 10.1 and i'm wondering if any of you have upgraded and if you think it was worth it.
The s/w looks quite different, maybe a question of personal taste.
I think the best part will be the resolution increase but i'm not sure if you notice it that much.
thx
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I upgraded and imo it isn't worth it. The resolution is nice but it is best displayed on paper, when I put them side by side i don't notice a night/day difference. The software is much better on the original (see how many people are complaining about the new snote) and root is better on the first as well. Battery life is better on the original.
If I hadn't promised my old one to my nephew I wouldn't have kept the new one.
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Thanks for your helpful comments, you mention some relevant points, i guess i'll be keeping my note for now.

I upgraded and I think the higher res display is well worth it.

They're very different devices. The size, display, and additional features are worth it to me. I like the new multiview, Pen Window, and S Note but not everybody does. I also went from a N2 to a N3 which made the transition a lot easier. The N10.1-14 is a lot closer to the N3 in design and features than the N2 was to the N10.1-12. Going from the N3 to the N10.1-12 was driving me crazy and S Note is no longer compatible with the 2012 version so sharing S Notes requires a N3/N10.1-14 combination. I'm very happy with the upgrade although some things take some getting used to. Like the h/w buttons and phone UI on a tablet. Some people deal with change better than others.

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They're very different devices. The size, display, and additional features are worth it to me. I like the new multiview, Pen Window, and S Note but not everybody does. I also went from a N2 to a N3 which made the transition a lot easier. The N10.1-14 is a lot closer to the N3 in design and features than the N2 was to the N10.1-12. Going from the N3 to the N10.1-12 was driving me crazy and S Note is no longer compatible with the 2012 version so sharing S Notes requires a N3/N10.1-14 combination. I'm very happy with the upgrade although some things take some getting used to. Like the h/w buttons and phone UI on a tablet. Some people deal with change better than others.
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I could not agree more. I picked up my tablet yesterday and can say the following things I have noticed:
1. The screen is better, but it honestly has not blown me away.
2. Camera is way better.
3. The device doesn't work as well with a mouse and keyboard. Not only does it constantly disconnect, the lack of soft keys causes a problem when trying to use my mouse to go to "home" screen, also, previously bumping the mouse against the edge of the screen resulted in panning of the currently displayed homescreen panel to the adjacent side.
4. S-Note is a boss, way better
5. Battery life doesn't seem quite as good.
6. Device boots faster and is faster but not terribly noticeable once booted.
7. Widgets aren't as good in my opinion. (I'm thinking digital clock and alarm)
8. The device looks way nicer.

I went to Best Buy today and saw the new Note 10.1 in display. It looked nice and my wife ask me if I want to upgrade my Note 10.1 2012. Didn't play much with it but the screen was a bit better. The multitasking looks good too but not sure if it's worth the expense right now. I love my old Note and it's my primary tablet/computer. Maybe I should upgrade just because I know my tablet will start falling in performance and battery.
We're in the same boat, really don't know if I should upgrade. I'll do more research.

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3. The device doesn't work as well with a mouse and keyboard. Not only does it constantly disconnect, the lack of soft keys causes a problem when trying to use my mouse to go to "home" screen, also, previously bumping the mouse against the edge of the screen resulted in panning of the currently displayed homescreen panel to the adjacent side.
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This is so odd. I've had a OG G-Tab 10.1, N10.1-12, and now a N10.1-14. Using the same keyboards and mice the N10.1-14 is hands down the best of the three for what you've described. "Best" defined as always auto-connecting when I turn on BT, staying connected while I'm using them, no errant key strokes or mouse positioning, mouse buttons controlling Android functions (EG: right click=back, center key=home, long center key=task manager), and playing nice with other BT devices that also might be connected. It's the first Android device I've owned that I feel comfortable bringing with me as my only "Office" connectivity option. I have a Latin American SM-P601 and don't know if that makes the difference but it's incredibly strange that some folks commend something you're highlighting as a problem.
I started this thread discussing this subject before I even knew some people were having BT peripheral problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070

BarryH_GEG said:
This is so odd. I've had a OG G-Tab 10.1, N10.1-12, and now a N10.1-14. Using the same keyboards and mice the N10.1-14 is hands down the best of the three for what you've described. "Best" defined as always auto-connecting when I turn on BT, staying connected while I'm using them, no errant key strokes or mouse positioning, mouse buttons controlling Android functions (EG: right click=back, center key=home, long center key=task manager), and playing nice with other BT devices that also might be connected. It's the first Android device I've owned that I feel comfortable bringing with me as my only "Office" connectivity option. I have a Latin American SM-P601 and don't know if that makes the difference but it's incredibly strange that some folks commend something you're highlighting as a problem.
I started this thread discussing this subject before I even knew some people were having BT peripheral problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
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So is it my particular peripherals, a flaw in my specific device or a generalized problem across several models?
I have the 32 GB wifi model in white, US. All firmwares updated.
I use logitech k810 keyboard and a logitech android mouse.

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So is it my particular peripherals, a flaw in my specific device or a generalized problem across several models?
I have the 32 GB wifi model in white, US. All firmwares updated.
I use logitech k810 keyboard and a logitech android mouse.
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You'll find this post from another thread even stranger...
ChrisNee1988 said:
I have a logiteck k810 bluetooth keyboard and have no issues with disconnects, whatsoever. Maybe its a problem with the keyboards trying to conserve energy?
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I don't know if @ChrisNee1988 is from the U.S. but if he is and using a U.S. N10.1-14 on the same s/w you are that points to something most likely s/w related on your particular device that's causing the issue(s). If @ChrisNee1988 is using a non-U.S. N10.1-14 and has no issues with the same KB you're using that points to a problem with Samsung's U.S. ROMs. It would be interesting if someone would hard reset their device and try the KB and mouse before loading any third party apps to see if it makes a difference. If it does, people can start to compare notes to figure out which third party app(s) are borking BT connectivity.
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Here's something to try. BT and 2.4GHz Wi-Fi share the same wireless band and sometimes the same antenna(s). See if you're still have disconnect issues with Wi-Fi off and/or connecting to 5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. Just trying to think of things that could be different between international and U.S. N10.1-14 versions.

Okay this was tested with zero apps loaded and at each US firmware update.
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You'll find this post from another thread even stranger...
I don't know if @ChrisNee1988 is from the U.S. but if he is and using a U.S. N10.1-14 on the same s/w you are that points to something most likely s/w related on your particular device that's causing the issue(s). If @ChrisNee1988 is using a non-U.S. N10.1-14 and has no issues with the same KB you're using that points to a problem with Samsung's U.S. ROMs. It would be interesting if someone would hard reset their device and try the KB and mouse before loading any third party apps to see if it makes a difference. If it does, people can start to compare notes to figure out which third party app(s) are borking BT connectivity.
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Here's something to try. BT and 2.4GHz Wi-Fi share the same wireless band and sometimes the same antenna(s). See if you're still have disconnect issues with Wi-Fi off and/or connecting to 5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. Just trying to think of things that could be different between international and U.S. N10.1-14 versions.
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I have a p600 us model so I'm not sure why you have bluetooth issues. I do have the logitech drivers installed on my computer and played around with the function settings but I doubt that would affect connectivity.
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Okay this was tested with zero apps loaded and at each US firmware update.
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I notice in your sig that you're rooted. Did this happen before you rooted too? I know it shouldn't matter but rooting disables the camera in the Sony XZ1 so stranger things have happened. I'm bone stock BTW.

BarryH_GEG said:
I notice in your sig that you're rooted. Did this happen before you rooted too? I know it shouldn't matter but rooting disables the camera in the Sony XZ1 so stranger things have happened. I'm bone stock BTW.
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Actually that's referring to my 2012 note 10.1. The 2014 model is stock.

If you are content with the low resolution, it's not a huge upgrade. I actually wish the new Note had more bezel and tapered edges, so the smaller size doesn't impress me much. For me though I could never stand the low res after owning 720p phones. I can't believe people can say it's not night and day between 1280x800 and 2560x1600. It's a HUGE difference, 4x as sharp. My wife upgraded from the old Note because her S4 spoiled her eyes and she just couldn't stand the low res anymore. She could have gotten an iPad Air like all the sheep and saved $50 but nope. I trained her well so she hates Apple as much as I, lol.
Also worth noting that a lot of games render at 1280x800 still, like Real Racing 3 and Asphalt 8, so if you're a big time gamer you might consider that as well.

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If you are content with the low resolution, it's not a huge upgrade. I actually wish the new Note had more bezel and tapered edges, so the smaller size doesn't impress me much. For me though I could never stand the low res after owning 720p phones. I can't believe people can say it's not night and day between 1280x800 and 2560x1600. It's a HUGE difference, 4x as sharp. My wife upgraded from the old Note because her S4 spoiled her eyes and she just couldn't stand the low res anymore. She could have gotten an iPad Air like all the sheep and saved $50 but nope. I trained her well so she hates Apple as much as I, lol.
Also worth noting that a lot of games render at 1280x800 still, like Real Racing 3 and Asphalt 8, so if you're a big time gamer you might consider that as well.
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Getting mine tomorrow... and am glad that games still render at 1280x800... Asphalt8 in max is sometimes slow on my old 10.1 and in 2500x1600 it would be to much for the new Note 2014
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The upgrade from the old 10.1 to the new 10.1 is huge for me. The old 10.1 made my eye balls bleed when reading for more then a few minutes.. the resolution is huge when it comes to text. The new 10.1 is pleasure to read books on..
The rest is about the same. True, the new s note is pretty bad.. but i use lecturenotes exclusively anyway.. much better note taking app.
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Coming from the previous Note 10.1 the weak point for me was the resolution... Im so glad they decided to leave 720p behind.
The fit and finish are much better to me as well and i love this tablet and cannot see getting another, unless the 2015 is better!

Itchiee said:
Coming from the previous Note 10.1 the weak point for me was the resolution... Im so glad they decided to leave 720p behind.
The fit and finish are much better to me as well and i love this tablet and cannot see getting another, unless the 2015 is better!
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It was the much improved screen resolution that persuaded me to upgrade from the gen 1 Note 10.1, the screen on the 2014 is leagues ahead. When I bought the original note I never envisaged using it for much reading, but thanks to Taptu, Pocket, EZpdf and Moon Reader, I used it far more than I expected for reading. The 2014 has a whole more grown-up feel to it (this is probably also helped because I've bought a black one this time around!). the original note was a very good tablet, the 2014 is a fantastic tablet.
I did have a small amount of lag when I first got the 2014, but this has gone by reducing the animation settings. Yes it's a great upgrade to the original Note 10.1 IMHO, but of course this may depend if your expectations differ.

After tweaking (aka stopping Samsungs 10 million programs from running in the background constantly) this tablet has been perfect. I understand them doing it for the popular "experience" but you know us on this website aren't your average users..so I don't need the dog and pony show lol. Which why lag is gone and battery lasts longer.
I've had about 8 tablets in my life, this has been the best, and not just because it's the newest. It has everything I need. High res, long battery, runs everything, built quality (my 3rd samsung tablet and they finally got build down), great size and weight....sd card.
Honestly I don't care about the pen I'm just a tablet fan.
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[Q] Should i buy note 2014?

Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<

gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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I also came from an iPad mini (the original one), so I'm right on the same page. The resolution on that device wasn't so hot.
1) I think it's perfect for reading. It really depends where you're reading, though. If you're worried about the size, just get a textbook or something of similar size, and judge it for yourself. For me, it works great for reading.
2) I haven't timed the battery myself. For the size, I feel like it has pretty decent battery life. I use it to take notes during classes, and in a 3 hour class, with the screen on the entire time, I see about a 100 to 70 percent drop. I'm happy with that.
3) The sPen is a LIFE SAVER! I use it all the time for taking notes. I use the Stylus Beta keyboard (on the Playstore) and it works exceptionally. With stylus beta and evernote, it's the perfect setup for me. Much faster than messing around with the onscreen keyboard.
4) It depends how much it is now. I haven't really looked recently. It has been out for awhile now, so I wouldn't pay full price now like I did when I bought it. Shop around, for sure. I've been really happy with my tablet though. It's a HUGE upgrade from the iPad mini in every way, shape, and form.

I've had them all ipad mini, air, note 8, note pro 12.2 and note 2014 10.1. The note 10.1 is perfect and I tell you why..
Ipad mini to restricted by Apple and I hate iTunes.
Ipad air, same reasons as mini.
Note 8, perfect portability, but s pen sucked because you had to write 45 degree angle or higher, plus s pen not good on small screen.
Note pro, loved it but portability sucked, to heavy, and not with $650.
10.1 perfect size and functions.
If you're smart buy a used one off ebay or Craig'slist. You can find them for $350
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gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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1. Very comfortable for me, I mainly use it for reading.
2. Without energy saving, I only charge it once every 3 days with my usage, but you can google for non-stop results. I think it's 11 hours for browsing and 4-5 hours for movies. Not sure.
3. I don't use it for anything.
4. If you buy on Amazon or Ebay, it's worth the money, but don't go to local shops if you live in EU, they have too high prices.

gintariukeas said:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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It's thin and light enough, with a screen that's big enough. you were on an iPad, so you understand tablet reading -it is what it is... Never quite the same as the real thing, but an acceptable compromise.
gintariukeas said:
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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This really depends on what you've got running. If you let it idle, it will survive until day four. If you play some games watch some movies, browse some sites, it's possible to drain the battery in 5 hours. Generally speaking, on moderate to heavy use, you can get by on a charge per day.
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3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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Somewhere between a gimmick and a handy tool. There are some apps that will let you take some advantage of the S-Pen's functionality, and Samsung has a few, especially if you're thinking of it as an alternate interface/input method (in which case it's superb). But if you're thinking this will replace your paper and pen; meh, I wouldn't throw away my notebooks and pencils just yet. The truth is the current technology (Wacom, N-Trig, etc.) will always lag behind your hand writing, and there will always be a glitch here and there (no matter how beastly the hardware you're using is). There will be people who swear by it. They are lying; most likely to themselves. This can be a tolerable compromise, but it will never match a [hardware] keyboard or a pen and paper -and it's not exactly the perfect amalgamation either. In a pinch it will certainly do, and for annotating PDFs and whatnot, it's tough to beat -but a real book and a real pen is just orders of magnitude superior. Where this compromise takes lead is in the fact that one book weighs several of these, while one of these can be multitudes of books, the internet, a gaming console, and so much more (which by now you understand -based on your iPad Mini experience).
gintariukeas said:
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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Honestly? I really want to say yes, but the answer is no. Two reasons: 1 It's a Samsung. Samsung is shoddy workmanship backed by worse customer support. 2 At this price you're starting to encroach on surface pro price range, and the Fujitsu Stylistic Q584. Yes, these machines do cost a little more -but they also do everything you expect from a computer. And if you're thinking of the pen -OneNote is king among all. A [non-Windows] tablet is a consumption device with some communication and minimal productivity capabilities. At the price Samsung is asking, it's not worth it.
gintariukeas said:
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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So for question five [Do you recommend/would you do again]
I have a love-hate relation with android (especially Samsung). It promises so much, and the kicker is that it often does deliver... just not quite the way you'd expect. It's a little like "Bedazzled " where the devil grants your wish, but in a way that nearly renders it moot. I dislike iOS because of its limited functionality, general interface (lack of buttons and setting menus on apps themselves) -and quite frankly the active digitizer is a great tool. But iOS is consistent, robust and reliable. So, I will be forfeiting my Note 10.1 2014 in to an iPad Air [but I'll be forfeiting my iPhone 5s for a note 3 (or 4)].
If ever I do get another Android tablet -it will never cost this much again, because they're not worth it. I regret getting my note 10.1. You got to take that with a grain of salt, given my personal experience which is unlikely [yet possible] to be yours.
How do I reconcile paying nearly as much for a note phone? they're nearly everything the tablet ought to be in a much more wield-able form factor with an actual [good] usable camera. Who is going to tote around their tablet all day every day? Who is going to pull that behemoth out to snap a quick shot? Not I. But the Phablet? For me, it's just the right size to take everywhere every time; and it's smaller than most real cameras (or close enough).
How would I reconcile paying nearly as much for an iPad. Apple's customer service is a little more robust than Samsung. And limited though these devices are -they do what they are designed to do -far more reliably and consistently than most of the android devices I have owned. And like it or not, an Apple product is an Apple product. You take that out, and people around you know what's the deal. But when you unleash your Samsung Note 10.1 2014 people look at it, and know it's a tablet that wishes it could bear the prestige of an Apple product. True nerds will think "wow cool!" Everyone else will think "cheap knock-off wanna-be iPad". Who cares? You shouldn't. But I now realize, I do (a little), because for that price I prefer the prestigious ice-breaker, than trying to justify the awesomeness of my [now defunct, probably still working had it been an iPad] device. Last but not least, I was an early adopter of the Windows 8 tablets and I have a Sony Vaio 11 [regrettably -now that Q584 and Surface Pro 3 are viable options]; and thus it's going to have to be a while before I get another Windows tablet. (I'm inclined to wait until at least Windows 9+).
Maybe this is a little (or a lot) more than you asked for. But I wish someone would have warned me.
Lastly, on the note 8. Unless it's less than 1/3 the cost of the note 10.1 2014 -it's a bad move. Note 8 has all the shortcomings of the 10.1 plus the fact that it's inferior hardware (not least of which is the screen quality), thus amplifying all the pangs. Not to mention you just got done complaining about the iPad mini for being too small.
TLDR;
No. Don't get it. I'm sure there are tons of people who will tell you that it's a good get. I'm sure they have favorable experiences -and there is a lot to love there. But in the end it's not worth the price because it's Samsung and it's Android. At that price point you might as well spend a few bucks more and get Windows (but not RT!) especially if you're serious about it as a study tool: OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.

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1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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i think it's a great size and light to hold, fine for reading texts, pdfs, books (Kobo), websites. i was surprised to find it was smaller than my TF700 (piece of crap!) -- Sammy did a great job with the side bezels.
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2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
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depends on how much you use it. it's not my only tool for work/leisure, but i would charge between every one and two days. (also, for me it takes about 5hrs charge to go from 20% to 100%.)
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3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
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very useful for me (print designer): making notes at meetings (sNote out of the box), marking up text and layouts and pdfs and images. doing revisions this way is much more efficient that printing out (or waiting for) a colour proof, marking that up, and then couriering it to a client — especially if i'm working remotely or in transit somewhere. i can't go entirely paperless of course, but for everything up to final colour proofs, it's works great.
scrapbook is also really handy when tripping through websites or videos. the one thing i've no use for is the windows function though. that said, the sPen really changed my perspective on what a tablet can/should do: i won't buy another tablet with out sPen or similar capability.
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4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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if you need sPen, want a 2K screen, and you like Android, this is THE ONLY tablet to get. i waited until KK came out and a bunch of the earlier bugs (software and hardware build) were addressed though. with Sammy, i find it's good to wait for a few months after launch for them to get things right. also, now being able to get Samsung's Remote PC functionality is great.

gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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Biggest issue. It's a Samsung! Plastic piece of ****. Build quality from hell. Have to return mine for creaky body and the bezel start to come loose from the glas. 750€ tablet with quality worse than a 129€ tablet.
The screen is nice, very bright and res is nice for reading, s pen is good for drawing and if u like to take notes but the apps that support stylus is quite few and samsungs s note and action memo is quite crappy. Besides the screen and the stylus which is nice if u need it. But its mostly a gimmick, i just cant recommend this POS. Did i mention that it lags like hell on stock firmware. Had to root and run custom to get decent performance and it still runs worse than my s4 with cm. I regret every day that I wasted over 700€ on this crap. Check around and you will see i ain't the only one who is dissatisfied with it. Buy something else than Samsung. Dont lesrn that lesson the hard way

If pen is not your critical.
Standby and wait for new Tab S series it will come with AMOLED display !!! .

I had an iPad Mini1, it was cute but that's it. The screen is not great and the battery wasn't as good as people say it is.
I also had an iPad3 and the screen was nice but it was uncomfortable to hold and I think the aluminium casing is slippery without a case.
iOS just sucks even though there are really good quality apps.
I've had a ton of android 10" tablets from Xoom, Tosh Thrive, Asus Transformers TF101, TF201, TF300, TF700 and Padfone Infinity.
I still have the TF700 and the Padfone Inifnity. The TF700 runs like a POS, slow and stutters and freezes up. I have a feeling the 1gb RAM is crippling it. I don't understand it when the prime and Tf300 was no where as bad, but I like the form factor very much and use it like a laptop and for remote desktops access it is great.
The padfone infinity is pretty awesome and it runs very fast, quadrant score is about 3 times that of the TF700 and feels like it. If it had an active stylus and a keyboad dock, I'd be happy with that as my only device since it is also a phone. My only problem with it is no SD slot so I got the 64gb version. I'm keen on the Padfone Infinity 2 but haven't tried it yet.
I also have a Surface RT and it is great for MS Office and File Explorer with a desktop. As well as that, I have an Asus Vivotab smart ME400C which is atom based Windows8 tab and runs full windows desktop apps.
Before I got my Note10 (P605) I had a Note 8 5100 (wifi+3G) and it is a GREAT tablet. It is snappy and light and runs soooo good. The only thing is the screen is not even as good as an ipad mini but it ****s on every other tablet I have owned for usability. IT IS THAT GOOD! if Samsung made a Note Pro 8.4 like their tab pro 8.4, I'd be there in a snap.
This brings me to my Note 10.1 2014 (P605 with 4G). The screen is awesome, the size is awesome, the speed is great (not as snappy as Note 8 in a lot of ways believe it or not!). I'm still on 4.3 but then my Note 8 is on 4.2. The pen is better on the Note10 than the Note8 and if you only got the Note10 to run Sketchbook ONLY, it would be worth every cent on that sweet screen. I do a lot of reading on it and the screen is just awesome. I photo edit and preview on it and its great. I also use it to annotate PDFs and draw stupid things for fun.
I'm still grabbing the Note8 most of the time when I head out of the house, simply because I can jam it into my coat pocket and cargo pants pockets. but at home, I'm on the Note10 all the time.
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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manhattan212;53168349: ...OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.[/QUOTE said:
Papyrus pen UI beats One Note windows for actual Notetaking. However One Note has better management, so the solution is to use Papyrus to take notes and then move it to One Note for storage and management thru Android OneNote.
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warboat said:
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
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I'm sure Samsung must be proud to have such staunch supporters. But the key point isn't just how great the machine is. The keypoints are this, this, and this. And for every one of us that actually posts -imagine the countless others that don't go online to post questions in forums. The countless others who just take the loss in stride, because they have little or no recourse.
In short, the Note 10.1 2014 has great promise, but buying Samsung is like playing Russian roulette. The hardware has great probability of failing, and Samsung has no problem screwing customers over. So I for one feel it's wrong to not warn people against the Note 10.1 2014. Because chances are, the tablet isn't going to fail you in those first 30 days, when you can take it back to the store you bought it and get yoru money back -no questions asked. It's going to fail you 32 days in. And then you're relying on Samsung's warranty -which isn't just going to let you walk into a local Samsung shop and shove your defective tablet into one of their [non-geniuses] mouths and let you walk out of the shop with a new replacement in hand. Other companies do that, Samsung just gives you the runaround, and cheats you out of your money.
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PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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When it comes to buying the Note 10.1 (2014)...
Harry Callahan said:
I know what you're thinking. 'Did the SM-P605 fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a Samsung, the most powerful tablet in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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paddycr said:
I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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There's no or very little lag on 4.4. I use my N10.1-14 probably heavier than most here because I'm a productivity user. I was just thinking to myself today what an amazing device it is (after owning it since October). I was working on a complicated Word document. I like to get the meat of a document done in Hancom locally and then finish it via RDP on my Windows desktop PC to guarantee the formatting's correct. Here's what I had open at the same time - Hancom (viewer and editor), Jump Desktop keeping a connection alive to my home PC with Word running, and two instances of Samsung's My Files in multi view to drag-and-drop files I needed between my device, home FTP server and Dropbox. On top of that I was watching Amazon Instant Video in a Pop-up-play window using PlayOn, connected to a BT keyboard and mouse, and listening to the audio via an AptX BT pendent. Also, so I didn't need to pull my phone out for calls or messages, I was using SideSync to display it on my N10.1-14 minimized. I have a 3G device so all this was being done over AT&T's HSPA+ network because the coffee house I was in had too many people on Wi-Fi. And that was all with little or no lag. Try that on another 10.1" tablet.
But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.

BarryH_GEG said:
But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a note 3 and love s-note for taking notes at work. The problem is that the screen is too small to use it on a regular basis - I find myself frequently going back to pen and paper. So i'm thinking of ditching the note 3 and getting a 10.1. Good excuse for a new phone too
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paddycr said:
I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.

I'm not sure what your main use is, but if you are a student and you are in a major that requires a lot of math, BUY THIS TABLET. If you will not be using the stylus often, there may be better options. There is a noticeable amount of lag on the stock rom and stock firmware, which confused me because the specs seem great. After rooting the device and switching roms it is much smoother.
I literally bought this tablet to run LectureNotes for my math classes. I have had a big issue with lag specifically in that app (only that app - others had zero lag), but I finally got it down to probably <30ms response time in LectureNotes while writing. I had to find the OEM 4.4.2 firmware/rom and flash it prior to flashing a modded 4.4.2 rom. A bunch of tweaking was also necessary in the app's settings, but I actually found that the high resolution was my issue. I then lowered the resolution of my notebooks, turned fast rendering and page rendering OFF, used SetCPU to max out the CPU when the screen was on and LectureNotes was in the foreground. This significantly decreased my lag in LectureNotes. All of this only applies to that specific app. Nothing else had any lag once I was rooted and on a custom rom.
Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.

warboat said:
I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
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Have you had a Nexus 10 and is it's overall performance comparable to the Note 10.1? I get a little paranoid about these benchmarks - I had a TF700T before my Nexus 10, which I recall benchmarked well. Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
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I agree, my Note 3 flies now I have ditched stock. However, the only thing that worries me about this is the knox 0x1 issue. Has anyone reported getting warranty service with this flag on their Note 10.1 ? It is not an issue with my Note 3 because T-mobile couldn't care less...

Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo

paddycr said:
Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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That wasn't the SoC or even s/w. Asus is notorious for putting slow-as-crap bargain basement NAND in their devices.

Coreyc1123 said:
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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I was about to tell OP for this link. haha.
I bought one for 299-39 bucks ebay cash so total came out to be 260 which is fantastic deal. Still waiting for it to be shipped.
I am original Note 10.1 owner so I can't comment on this 2014 ones but with my original 10.1 being my main notebook in college, I can't recommend enough. Everybody experience may varies depending on the usage and expectation. I took all of my notes using the tablet with the LectureNote app. Fantastic tool.
I expect nothing less from 2014 10.1 and can't wait to get it.