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After finding enough screenshots/video reviews, I am beginning to think that from a hardware perspective the S and L variants are identical (including supported bands), whereas the K is only slightly different from S/L.
Any images of the back cover off on the K models (Olleh) will show "F400 0425 K" indicating the hardware is the "K" variant. (If you watch the review video http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review, you will notice this info up at the top on the backside, right above the camera.) UPDATE: Here is another link with an image http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/#image-4
On the S/L (SK Telecom, LG U+) models, they say "F400 0423 S/L" on the SK Telecom model ("S" variant), and "F400 0425 S/L" on the LG U+ model ("L" variant). You can find images of the "S" model with engadget's review (http://www.engadget.com/gallery/lg-g3-review/2676959/#!slide=2676963), and images of the "L" model with ubreakifix's F400L teardown (http://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ubif-g3-21.jpg).
(Thanks and kudos to the review sites and teardown site for the images.)
As an owner of the F400S, I can tell you that all 3 variants will run on AT&T LTE (as a lot of our LTE is on Band 17 - 700 MHz spectrum). I was able to load my F400S with the TOT and DLL files of all 3 variants (currently waiting on getting it back to the "S" variant once the DLL is posted), and all 3 variants will connect to AT&T with no issues (for those of you that plan on importing like I did).
So for those of you who managed to brick your new G3, as long as you can ADB into it, you can edit your build.prop file with the corresponding korean variant model info, and load any stock image. As @wolfgart has posted a great thread with the TOTs and DLLs, I recommend swinging through there for more info. If you have a K variant, load the K TOT and DLL, and you are fine.
For those of us with S/L variants--with the above info and enough tinkering in the hidden menus of all 3 variants, I can tell you that from a hardware perspective these two models are nearly identical. From a modem/supported frequencies perspective, the S and L variants support the exact same frequencies--meaning, if you bricked your S or L version, you can restore it with an S or L TOT and DLL (after editing build.prop if needed) and you will still get all of your original hardware supported bands/frequencies. This is critical for those of you using LTE Band 5 to connect to your data... (should not be the case for any US AT&T users...).
UPDATE: in the 'Android Development' section, wolfgart's thread with the TOTs and DLLs have been updated to now include the files for all 3 models. So unless you know what you are doing with a build.prop edit, probably best to stick with what came with the phones for those who are new to this stuff.
The main difference between the S/L and K phones in frequency/band support is that LTE Band 8 is supported on the K model only, whereas you will get LTE Band 5 support on the S/L models. All other bands and frequencies (WCDMA/GSM) are the same across all 3 models. All 3 also support LTE Band 17, and will connect to AT&T in the US.
Took me a while to figure this out, but I had a long weekend
Cool! nice to know, thanks for the well explained post
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks
gsanches said:
Any thoughts about the L/S version suporting LTE Band 7?
Thanks
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Unfortunately, I don't connect to LTE with band 7 so I can't say much on that. However, just based on the hidden menus in both (I am using the L version on my S variant phone at the moment), they both have the same listings of 1,3,5,7 for supported bands.
LTE 700, 850, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 5, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
The above are the fully supported bands on the S and L variants.
The below are the fully supported bands on the K variant.
LTE 700, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600 (Band 17, Band 8, Band 3, Band 1, and Band 7 respectively)
UMTS 850, 1900, 2100
GSM 800, 900, 1800, 1900
I don't have the K variant on my device now, but I recall the only band difference is that it supports LTE band 8 (900 MHz) instead of LTE band 5 (850 MHz), but other supported bands are the same. LTE Band 5 is one of the primary bands for both SK Telecom and LG U+ (which partially explains why the two phones have nearly identical hardware, including modem support).
Hope this answers your question. As support for those frequencies are built in (and it makes sense on LG as a mass manufacturer--They can use the same modem and just rebrand it like they did in Korea for the S and L variants).
Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
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Why is the S one more expensive than the L?
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That, my friend, is a question you will have to ask LG and SK Telecom. We sorta see that in the US every so often with "special editions" that aren't really that special and they will add an extra 100ish.
Off-contract, LG U+ is the most affordable right now, with SK Telecom right around $700 USD. With markup and shipping, etc. eBayers are selling it for $750-800.
Also, you have to remember the G3 is a hot commodity even in Korea right now. Had some friends who thought it was funny I got a phone overseas before they even bothered joining the bandwagon.
So though I can't say for sure why exactly it's more expensive, I can definitely say it has to do with the fact that the phone is still only 3 weeks old
And none of those 3 will work on T-Mobile LTE which needs 1700 and 2100Mhz most of time.
There are some spots with 900Mhz support though.
But as much as I want G3, I'll wait for the T-Mo version.
Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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Yeah...I'm a proud owner of a Htc One M7...I have been thinking a lot and decided that it's time to change. I'm comparing the M8, the Z2, the G3 for a long time and finally think that this last one will be the one...unfortunately it's still very soon to easily find information regarding this phone online...
Your information helped me a lot...now I know exactly which variant to buy :fingers-crossed:...thank you guys very much
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It looks like you are planning on doing the same upgrade I did. I still have my M7 as my backup , but definitely gotta say I am loving my G3.
That's amazing man...I've been a HTC fan since the Sensation...but currently I feel that they are been left behind...
I'm really sorry, but other brands are offering a lot more for the same price.
The HTC will always win in design and the quality of the phone's body, screen and, of course, sound!...but they are losing in the rest...UI, camera, battery life definitely...it's just sad
Nice to know that you're enjoying your G3...I hope I'll be as happy as you are in a few weeks...and judging by how much I've researched about it...I'm sure I'll love it!!!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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sorry, which of these three variants brings FM radio? K, L, S, and if for example buy the K version, if you install the L or S variant fm radio works?
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From my research, none of the korean models (F400 S/K/L) support FM radio. Instead of an FM radio tuner, they are offered with Korea's DMB tuner, for korean DMB support.
I have only seen DMB function while in Korea and Japan. Anywhere else in the world, you will have to check with local providers, as some countries will charge for DMB as a service (just like satellite television).
Hope this helps
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I´m about to buy a G3 and found some model have an antenna, is that correct?, anybody knows what tv frequencies can handle?. Thanks!
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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OK! Thank you
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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salvador1980 said:
Anyone know which one is the best for AT&T
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Any of them will do. I would say go for the one that gives you the best price. At this point, enough AT&T users have gotten their hands on all 3 variants. Most can get LTE through band 17 (700 MHz) which is available on all 3 phones.
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
kittiyut said:
Will the D855 variant (with LTE 700MHz) be able to use on AT&T (band class 17) or Verizon (band class 13)?
Or to be more specific, will the D855 cover all 700MHz US band class (12, 13, 14, and 17)?
Thanks!
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You would have to check which specific band class of 700 MHz the D855 would be capable of connecting to. As I do not have the D855, and specs are varied on the internet right now, I cannot say for sure.
The FCC had ruled four separate band classes to operate on the 700 MHz spectrum in America--Band 17 700 MHz capable modems cannot connect to any of the other 700 MHz band classes and vice versa. (It was claimed that they did not want to have any network interference issues. Carriers purchased the rights to access certain chunks of the 700 MHz spectrum, and they are isolated to those carriers only.)
I am seeing 700MHz (B28) support on D855 models, but I believe that might be related to certain LTE-A rollouts in Europe (meaning it may not be able to connect to current 700 MHz bands in the US (as the US does not have LTE-A networks at the moment) and new band classes are issued for LTE-A (i.e. Band 28).
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The only frequencies it can support is anything broadcasted as DMB. Certain countries offer DMB subscription services, but you will have to research if it is offered where you live.
In the US, DMB is unavailable so I just have a nice long antenna that people crack up at in the year 2014, but completely unusable where I am. I just tell them its for better service as a side joke lol
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Does the antenna stand out much? Or is it hidden? Thanks
I need help, i want to buy a zenfone 2 from alegrecompra, but i dont know if the version Z00AD support 3G wcdma, i live in latin america.
Does anyone has bought this version?
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
thorazine74 said:
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
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H+ 3G WCDMA 2100 on CN version working confirmed. Haven't tested the other bands, but if 2100 is working the other ones should be too.
Thanks! I think its safe to assume then that WCDMA support is same across all regional versions...
Work here in Mauritius but not on all operator. One operator it show the H but download is 2G
thorazine74 said:
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
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It works on 3G WCDMA, I just bought the CN version and it working on band 1900.
@OP
I suggest you buy the Zenfone 2 that you mentioned in your post. That is an America Version that can be used in Latin America as well.
IMHO, do not buy the China or Taiwan Variants as those were specifically for Asian Continent.
Good Luck.
alfespa17 said:
I need help, i want to buy a zenfone 2 from alegrecompra, but i dont know if the version Z00AD support 3G wcdma, i live in latin america.
Does anyone has bought this version?
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The only Freq/band that the Z00AD (WW) doesn't support that the US version supports is 700 MHz/Band 17 -- there are some South/Central American providers that use that frequency, but not many.
Here's the breakdown of frequencies from the ASUS site:
2G :
EDGE/GPRS/GSM : (WW version)
850MHz/900MHz/1800MHz/1900MHz,
EDGE GPRS GSM: (TH version)
900MHz/1800MHz, Class
3G :
WCDMA: (WW version)
850MHz/900MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz
WCDMA: (TH version)
900MHz/2100MHz
TD-SCDMA: (CN/IN version Only)
1900 ~ 2100
4G :
FDD-LTE: (TW version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/900MHz(8)/1800MHz(9)/800MHz(18)/850MHz(19)/700MHz(28)
FDD-LTE: (WW version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (US version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/700MHz(17)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (TH version)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (CN version)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)
TDD-LTE: (CN/IN version)
2600MHz(38)/1900MHz(39)/2300MHz(40)/2500MHz(41)
ASUS phone 4G/LTE band compatibility varies by region. Please check compatibility with local carriers If intending to use your ASUS phone outside the original purchase region.
SIM1 Support2G/3G/4G
SIM2 Support2G
Dual SIM Dual Active
I can't do links as a new user, but here are the frequencies used by various providers:
List of LTE networks - Wikipedia: wikipedia.org List_of_LTE_networks
i have zenfone 2 ZOOAD
stock on usb logo
anybody knows how to fix it?
help me! please!
Hi, I'm from South America, so, my only option to get this device is to buy one from china sellers. But I'm confused because every page like willmydevicework (I don't trust this so much), gsmarena and devicespecifications.com show different information on LTE Band Support.
For example, in willmydevicework, none of the variants (p2a42 and p2c72) supports B4 AWS LTE (1700/2100) (The band that i need in my carrier)
On the other side, in gsmarena and devicespecifications, all the variants, no matter if is p2a42 or p2c72 and 32 o 64gb storage, supports that band.
From sellers, the Aliexpress store "Eternal Team" show full band support on p2c72 model: FDD Band 1/3/4/5/7/8/20/28
Other seller, Fantacy, says that his p2c72 supports only LTE FDD B1/B3/B7.
And finally, tinydeal and Aliexpress "Lenovo authorized store", shows that his 64gb model supports FDD-LTE B1, B3, B4, B7, B8.
So, which should I trust? I'm interested only if the phone supports B4, asking for advice if someone of south america or other america's countries have the device and working on his 4G LTE carrier with B4 AWS.
Thanks in advance.
Ger$$on said:
Hi, I'm from South America, so, my only option to get this device is to buy one from china sellers. But I'm confused because every page like willmydevicework (I don't trust this so much), gsmarena and devicespecifications.com show different information on LTE Band Support.
For example, in willmydevicework, none of the variants (p2a42 and p2c72) supports B4 AWS LTE (1700/2100) (The band that i need in my carrier)
On the other side, in gsmarena and devicespecifications, all the variants, no matter if is p2a42 or p2c72 and 32 o 64gb storage, supports that band.
From sellers, the Aliexpress store "Eternal Team" show full band support on p2c72 model: FDD Band 1/3/4/5/7/8/20/28
Other seller, Fantacy, says that his p2c72 supports only LTE FDD B1/B3/B7.
And finally, tinydeal and Aliexpress "Lenovo authorized store", shows that his 64gb model supports FDD-LTE B1, B3, B4, B7, B8.
So, which should I trust? I'm interested only if the phone supports B4, asking for advice if someone of south america or other america's countries have the device and working on his 4G LTE carrier with B4 AWS.
Thanks in advance.
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Am having the same issues like you, I want to buy from Nigeria ?? but a feed up with the inconclusive description on Aliexpress. Am looking to get the model that has LTE band 28 but non of the descriptions contain band 28 now.
Please can anyone who is already using this phone confirm the LTE bands?
Are there different hardwares/modems for p2?
Please I need urgent reply
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Am having the same issues like you, I want to buy from Nigeria but a feed up with the inconclusive description on Aliexpress. Am looking to get the model that has LTE band 28 but non of the descriptions contain band 28 now.
Please can anyone who is already using this phone confirm the LTE bands?
Are there different hardwares/modems for p2?
Please I need urgent reply
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From my experience. You can't trust any of the chinese stores with listing proper frequency's.
They even list the wrong frequency's to catch you into buying the device in question.
I highly recommend following site to check for frequency support:
Look at supported cellular networks!
P2a42 = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11116&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2a42_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 32GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10515&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 64GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10930&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_64gb
celoxocis said:
From my experience. You can't trust any of the chinese stores with listing proper frequency's.
They even list the wrong frequency's to catch you into buying the device in question.
I highly recommend following site to check for frequency support:
Look at supported cellular networks!
P2a42 = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11116&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2a42_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 32GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10515&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 64GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10930&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_64gb
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Thanks for clarifying me mate, Aliexpress guys are selling the P2c72 with 4G/64G but here is the issue as I also attached, they are flashing the ROM for P2a42 in it because of play store, multi language and to sell globally but the problem is,
If you they flash P2c42 ROM on P2c72, will all the LTE band work?
Is there any hardware difference between P2c72 and P2a42?
Or is it just a modem difference, same hardware?
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Thanks for clarifying me mate, Aliexpress guys are selling the P2c72 with 4G/64G but here is the issue as I also attached, they are flashing the ROM for P2a42 in it because of play store, multi language and to sell globally but the problem is,
If you they flash P2c42 ROM on P2c72, will all the LTE band work?
Is there any hardware difference between P2c72 and P2a42?
Or is it just a modem difference, same hardware?
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No the LTE bands will stay the same. Its hardware limited.
What they do is. Use the available information here from XDA how to flash the P2a42 Firmware on the P2c72.
Usually they just flash the system.img and the boot stack. You will have P2a42 Userinterface in multilingual just like an P2a42 but will still have the same LTE bands like the P2c72.
The reason behind it.
The P2c72 is sold in their homecountry (usually china) for way cheaper than the P2a42 in the western market
and they sell the modified P2c72 for a higher prices on the international market, which is still cheaper tham the P2a42 price.
By tricking the customer into listing all LTE frequency and confusing them to have "P2a42" feature. They fall for the trap.
Always trust the listing at pdadb.net
Thanks mate, the seller told me no after I put forth the question to him without any explanation but I guess this answers it.
Really need a good mid range with LTE Band 28 that ships to Nigeria.
My target was Redmi note 3 special edition but All Aliexpress stores shipping to Nigeria is out of stock. Sadly enough, they still ship to Spain.
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Thanks mate, the seller told me no after I put forth the question to him without any explanation but I guess this answers it.
Really need a good mid range with LTE Band 28 that ships to Nigeria.
My target was Redmi note 3 special edition but All Aliexpress stores shipping to Nigeria is out of stock. Sadly enough, they still ship to Spain.
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You can use pdadb to filter for phones by bands and other features. I use that to start my research. Stick with Snapdragon based devices if you want community freedom.
Avoid Oppo phones at all costs. They don't release kernel sources and removed fastboot and any way of unlocking the bootloader.
Preferably stick with a brand that:
1. Snapdragon based phones
2. Releases kernel Sources
3. Allows for Bootloader unlocking
4. Has a community on XDA
Such as Xiaomi, Motorola, Lenovo, etc just to name a few. In not any particular order.
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No the LTE bands will stay the same. Its hardware limited.
What they do is. Use the available information here from XDA how to flash the P2a42 Firmware on the P2c72.
Usually they just flash the system.img and the boot stack. You will have P2a42 Userinterface in multilingual just like an P2a42 but will still have the same LTE bands like the P2c72.
The reason behind it.
The P2c72 is sold in their homecountry (usually china) for way cheaper than the P2a42 in the western market
and they sell the modified P2c72 for a higher prices on the international market, which is still cheaper tham the P2a42 price.
By tricking the customer into listing all LTE frequency and confusing them to have "P2a42" feature. They fall for the trap.
Always trust the listing at pdadb.net
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One thing for sure that LTE does work fine on my P2c72 towards the american LTE bands.
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One thing for sure that LTE does work fine on my P2c72 towards the american LTE bands.
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So, you have LTE band 4 with your carrier and your using it on your Chinese p2c72?
Xiaomi have released Redmi Note 5 in Taiwan with more LTE band support than global variant.
TW Specs from : http://www.mi.com/tw/redmi-note-5/specs/
Taiwan model:
Code:
4G:FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Global model:
Code:
4G: FDD-LTE B1/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Many markets worldwide apart from Taiwan make use of the extra B28 (700Mhz) - Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Panama, Japan, France. There are probably more I have left out. Its basically our equivalent of B20 which gives us better rural coverage and better building penetration.
I have looked everywhere including Aliexpress and they aren't selling this model. Can anyone find it anywhere other than Xiaomi Taiwan site?
I have read:
This Band 28(700Mhz) is scheduled to begin in 2020 for mobile (5G broadband services)
That might be true in your country, its been in other places for years. Since 2014 in Australia. I think its delayed in Europe due to terrestrial TV using that frequency, ours was switched off years ago.
ok,thanks for the info
It is also used in Nigeria by a network known as Glo. LTE band 28(700) travels very far and has better in-building penetration than most LTE bands.
By the way, I've also checked Aliexpress for the variant of redmi note 5 that support band 28, and it's not available yet. I don't think I can wait for it any longer. I'll have to settle for the Global variant.
where did you get the band list for the Global version from? pdadb so far has always been accurate on the supported bands and it lists Band 28 as included for the Global version:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...e_64gb_meg7s___xiaomi_whyred&d=detailed_specs
@celoxocis Seems to differ from this one https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-5 Doesn't list B28
@lukesan
kimovil has been wrong in the past.
I used to import US version phones and always used pdadb for proper (required) bands. Where all other sites would list missing bands pdadb would list all complete bands. So I see pdadb as trustworthy and professional sites who check the phones specifications for accuracy.
@celoxocis https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9120#hong-kong,*,* another one that doesn't show B28 BUT the Taiwan version shows B28
This is all getting confusing. On all Aliexpress sellers I don't see B28, only the very much used B20 in Europe. Looking for the Taiwan version on Aliexpress seems to not show anything.
@lukesan
gsmarena never lists proper bands. it misses half the bands of my axon 7 us version (pdadb lists the proper bands). never go to gsmarena to check for bands. aliexpress only sells Chinese versions with global ROM anyway. don't go there or they will trick you to buy one of those.
I contacted aliexpress sellers that are selling global model, they said no B28. So far only place I have found is a eBay seller from Taiwan but its overpriced so not buying yet: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xiaomi-Red...hash=item1cac64e701:m:mUYSnnhRa49uuBF-7QnmBSw
Did anyone find a place? I am still looking around for this.
Not sure if it will be any help for you, but I just bought this one off of Amazon.ca - https://www.amazon.ca/Xiaomi-Unlocked-Global-Version-4-64GB/dp/B07D82MTZL/ - and it has band 28.
I bought a couple of this guy from Taiwan ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/123151713017 so I can confirm that the seller is good. Good communication answered all my questions, and he packaged everything securely inside a DHL box. The boxes inside were still shrink wrapped as I expect they would come from Xiaomi.
It may be a bit overpriced though as said here for some reason nobody else is putting the Taiwanese version up.
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FYI the list price for that version in Taiwan is TWD 8,000, or about AUD 355, so the mark-up is about 23%.
(438/355-1)*100 ~= 23.3803
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This Amazon.ca listing has the RN5 with Band 28. Both resellers (Maple Mountain Imports and JP Mobiles CA) sell the same version of the phone, and fulfilment is by Amazon. I am not sure how useful this is to anyone not in Canada, but I figured I'd mention it here for anyone who is still looking for some place besides eBay. I received mine today (2 day shipping) and the phone is new in shrinkwrap, etc.
I also purchased one from the Ebay seller as mentioned by tya99. I will also add that it was packed as described and arrived in my hand in Australia in only two days from ordering. Very happy with it.
In France, some operator already use B28, since more than 1 year ago
It is for this same reason (LTE band 28) that I wanted to buy redmi note 5 special edition. Now there is a redmi note 5 with LTE band 28 that nobody knows where to buy it from. It's a pity Xiaomi doesn't care to make it popular.
In Nigeria (the most populus country in Africa) that LTE band 28 is in hot demand used by GSM network called globacom.
I want to get that but might have to settle for global or China redmi note 5 as I have already purchased MiFi modem with LTE band 28.
I'M still in love with my old Samsung note 4 screen and camera, I don't know if redmi note 5 screen will be close to it but at some point I have to upgrade.
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This Taiwanese version has also been released in Mexico, and possibly in Chile and Bolivia. I bought mine in Mercadolivre (auction-site-turned-marketplace just like eBay), from someone who imported it from Mexico to Brazil. If you have some sort of communication channel to a seller, you can ask them directly for the model number printed on the back side of the box: the regular "Global" model is model M1803E7SG, while the Taiwanese/Mexican model with B28 support is M1803E7SH.
Hi, i'm about to buy online an S20FE 5g (preferably an 8GB), and i was wondering about the differences between different versions; i don't know what should i buy to use in Europe.
I could not find a comprehensive list, so i thought i could just post what i know; the more info you can share, the most complete the list will be.
SM-G781B (International)
SM-G781U (USA)
operator locked, should not buy for Europe
SM-G781U1 (USA Unlocked)
not a real dual sim (as stated here)
SM-G781W (Canada)
SM-G7810 (China, Hong Kong)
for this version there's a 8/128 model (is it good to use in Europe? they seems to come at a cheap price)
SM-G781N (Korea)
SM-G781V (Verizon)
Also, the /DS stands for "dual-sim hybrid tray" i suppose, based on this evidence
Based on this, frequencies support should be the same for models SM-G781B (International), SM-G781N (Korea), SM-G781U (USA), SM-G781V (Verizon):
GSM frequencies
850 900 1800 1900
Standard UMTS
850 900 1900 2100
Standard LTE
FDD LTE: 2600, 2100, 1900, 1800, 1700, 900, 850, 800, 700
TDD LTE: 2600, 2500, 2300, 1900
Standard 5G
FDD 5G: 1900, 1700, 850, 600
TDD 5G: 2500
The one listed on Bestbuy is SM-G781UZBMXAA. Can I use that outside of US, in Asia perhaps?
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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Got the same phone delivered since a day in the Netherlands. Works fine, every language possible to choose, works fine on the networks etc.
I'm just trying to find a way to flash a ROM with another CSC to try to enable THL ( Thailand CSC) as to make phone-recording possible. Seems not easy to get rid of the Hong Kong CSC.
Even with some 'CSC change tricks' I don't get any further than to choose for TGY as the only one in the list.
amazinged said:
Got the same phone delivered since a day in the Netherlands. Works fine, every language possible to choose, works fine on the networks etc.
I'm just trying to find a way to flash a ROM with another CSC to try to enable THL ( Thailand CSC) as to make phone-recording possible. Seems not easy to get rid of the Hong Kong CSC.
Even with some 'CSC change tricks' I don't get any further than to choose for TGY as the only one in the list.
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hello there i am from the uk i also want to buy this phone the SM-G7810 version. because this version is cheaper. what are the big differences i am missing between this and the international version . is it just the updates because updates i can wait and dont mind. is the SM-G7810 version worse ? how does it perform
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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hi i am from uk and want to buy SM-G7810 version . is this version ok ? more buggy or what is the differecne with international model
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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Do you can find 5g? i cant find 5g with g7810 in France.
SirDarknight said:
The one listed on Bestbuy is SM-G781UZBMXAA. Can I use that outside of US, in Asia perhaps?
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Make sure it's compatible with your carrier. Contact your carrier for assistance.
masterfu said:
I got SM-G7810 , I am from Poland and it works just fine. Bought it from my local phone store with their warranty. Got it much cheaper. Works ok, no problems.
Just waiting for android 11, looks like HK is less important to Korean company then Europe
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S20 FE 5G UW got Android 11 SM-G781V was released. Your device should have it alreday, visit settings and check updates.
hassanali11722 said:
hi i am from uk and want to buy SM-G7810 version . is this version ok ? more buggy or what is the differecne with international model
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No difference, just maybe LTE bands and per region code.
Niiha said:
Do you can find 5g? i cant find 5g with g7810 in France.
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The phone has 5G if it is a SM-G781U or SM-G781V
SamDungUser said:
The phone has 5G if it is a SM-G781U or SM-G781V
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G7810 is with 5G
Niiha said:
G7810 is with 5G
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OK so I guess SM-G781V, G7810, G781U are 5G Models. No confirmation seen about other variants.