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HTC One M8 Clone Or Genuine?

Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc

maheshpatel said:
Hello HTC One M8 users out there could you help me identify if this is Genuine or Clone HTC One M8? I don't want to end up getting Clone especially when I am dealing with the Chinese sellers!
Seller sells all M8 versions including Chinese/HK/European/USA
European version 32GB price is 290 USD which is bit hard to believe
I am uploading some pictures which users have posted after receiving the item.
Also, I would like to know what is European version is called? Such as M8T is for China mobile! There are many models out there like M8S/Y/W etc
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All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly

n1234d said:
All the pics look genuine.. Bootloader looks good. Prices are insane if you're from India, confirm whether they'll work with 2300Mhz LTE, that's what's coming here mostly
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Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:

maheshpatel said:
Yes, It does look genuine but Chinese peoples have released realistic looking clone M8. When we ask whether it's genuine or not they tell it's genuine even if it is high imitation. Yes, Prices are insane. Only European/USA/HK model prices are somewhere b/w 300-325 USD
Chinese model of M8 is priced at 480-500 USD which is TD LTE and it does support 2300Mhz AFAIK but I don't mind FDD LTE European model which supports 1800Mhz cause of International ROM support.
I have researched about LTE band frequency in India Reliance is gonna lunch LTE on both frequency 1800Mhz FDD LTE and 2300Mhz TDD LTE Airtel as we know already has 2300Mhz TDD LTE but they have started 1800Mhz FDD LTE as well as and Videocon has already acquired 1800Mhz FDD LTE spectrum in six circles. Vodafone and Idea will also lunch 4G on 1800Mhz FDD LTE next year. 1800Mhz frequency is more preferred than 2300Mhz cause of towers and less handsets are available in the market which supports 2300Mhz TDD LTE :fingers-crossed:
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All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.

n1234d said:
All European/unlocked models are 16gig Btw. Only us models are 32gig. Also, you can tell from pictures of the bootloader and the serial numbers that these are indeed genuine handsets. Also, I'm pretty sure even the China ones have international rom support, just no dual sim or eye. Hoping for 1800Mhz, currently using reliance in Mumbai, but their 3G service in a car or train is just horrible.
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Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.

maheshpatel said:
Uh-oh! But, Seller mentions that he has both 16 GB & 32GB European models. I haven't talked with him yet. Let me talk to him. It is strange that 16GB European model price is 30 USD higher than the 32GB.
Yeah, There's a Chinese forum for Smartphones just like we have XDA but it's all in the Chinese language and even if I flash those ROM one disadvantage would be Chinese language everywhere
How much speed you getting on Reliance 3G network? I think Reliance is as costlier as Vodafone/Airtel/Idea when it comes to 3G Data. I have never used Reliance so dunno about their network range. I have heard Vodafone. They have some good coverage.
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I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed

n1234d said:
I'm sure all unlocked phones are 16gig models.
And what I was saying is that I'm 90% sure you you can flash normal roms on a Chinese phone, from xda. ViperOne for example, works on the m8_tl
I've never used any other provider except Reliance. In fact, my entire family uses reliance. Their customer service is pretty good in Mumbai, and coverage is excellent almost everywhere. Earlier, I've got upto 15 Mb/s but since the past few months, it doesn't go above 5Mb/s. But speeds are okay, what I hate is that data stops transmitting sometimes (even with full network) in the middle of loading a Web page or a video, and anything that requires continuous data transfer (I use a CCTV application, and can't see more than 5 seconds of a live stream) will just lose data for like 30 seconds, sometimes longer, and then come back. So it's good enough for light browsing, and chatting etc, but is just okay otherwise. This all is while moving about in a car or train.. If i'm at home (where, again I get full coverage), it's much, much better. Also, I think it's the cheapest for data. I have been getting(prepaid) 2 gb of data for 177, with free unlimited whatsapp, fb, and Twitter for the past two months (1gb+1gb free)
Postpaid is 123 for 1gig and 246 for 2 etc
Reliance Jio 4g supposedly is gonna be very good, so fingers crossed
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The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.

xunholyx said:
The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.

xunholyx said:
The version he is showing in the screenshots is locked. So yes, it could be 32gb.
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Also, I have the international version. It is 32gb. I unlocked it myself.
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AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
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Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.

maheshpatel said:
AFAIK European Models are called International models which is default Unlocked models unlike USA carrier specific models which are locked by network whether 16GB model Or 32GB Model. HongKong/Taiwan/Macau also sells 16GB/32GB Unlocked models but that variant is different than European Variant. HK Variant is called HTC One M8Y and I dunno what they calls European model.
I didn't know that HTC sells 16GB unlocked model for European countries & rest of the world. I thought HTC is selling both 16GB & 32GB by default Unlocked European models. But, Then my seller mentions that he is having both 16GB/32GB European model. Now question is if you're telling HTC sells only 16GB European model then how come he is having 32GB European Model? P.s It is no doubt that seller sells Genuine items. Luckily seller understands little bit of English so yesterday I talked to him and he said Both European variant & HK Variant are almost universal and I could flash European Variant ROM on HK variant. I dunno what's the difference b/w HK & European variant might be LTE band difference other than that everything would be the same.
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Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?

n1234d said:
Yep, the only difference should be in LTE bands. Again, I'm 90% sure you can cross flash roms, and since he says you can, you probably can. Also, I've never seen an European 32gb model.. I'm pretty sure he would be selling the US unlocked model, (both international and us have the code m8n) but only difference will be in bands.. If the 32gb supports 1800mhz (ask him, I don't know) then get that!
PS, link to the seller please?
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Yes, I will talk to him about 32GB UK model & 1800Mhz LTE band issues.
Here's the seller link: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-4615635472.37.CvSgdM&id=41040381216
Let me know what you think of the seller? There are many such sellers selling M8 around that price difference is minor 40-50 RMB & GIFTS

n1234d said:
Not what I'm talking about. HTC sells an international variant for european countries and the rest of the world, which are 16gig models only. Only m8s for the American market are 32gigs. When I said unlocked, I meant the ones htc officially sells outside the US. (HTC__001, HTC__Y13 etc) Also, we're talking carrier unlocked, not bootloader unlocked. Also, the phone with the bootloader screen is a Hong Kong variant (see the software number) which is again a 16 gig model.
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Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US.

Model ID

xunholyx said:
Dude. You are wrong. I have the international model. I don't live in the US. View attachment 3076060
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Can't see the first two images
xunholyx said:
Model ID
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See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Model ID
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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n1234d said:
Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.

n1234d said:
Can't see the first two images
See your MID? The international unlocked has 0P6B1000
Also, OS version should be x.xx.401.x
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Also, according to the list made by Sneakyghost after lots of research here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54097345
You have a Rogers Canada phone. Verify your info man
Check the CID's and regional info spreadsheet
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Yes, You're right MID should be 0P6B100
Here's the M8 MID Info http://droider.eu/2014/09/20/htc-one-m8-models/
xunholyx said:
Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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MID 0P6B160 belongs to Telus/Rogers [CA] Here we are looking for MID 0P6B100 32GB variant

Now what do you have to say? Did HTC just released 32GB UK Unlocked version?

xunholyx said:
Telus Canada. Still not a US model. Not unlocked, as I stated earlier. 401.9 firmware.
But I do understand your point about he must have unlocked now. I was smoking when I replied last. lol
EDIT: And definitely international model. Go ahead and ask @Sneakyghost if you would like to.
Or you could read the headline and first paragraph in this article where it mentions the M8_UL model, which is what I own.
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Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!

We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind

n1234d said:
Hey! Definitely lots of confusion.. Did you buy it from the telus store? Was it carrier locked? The os version number sure makes it look like the European one, but is it officially sold in Europe? Or anywhere outside North America? I'm speaking about the official EMEA model..
Also, my m8 is an M8_UL, but is still not the international one, it is an Indian model, with MID 0P6B650. So the code may be the same, but the underlying phone is definitely different, as mine supports TD-LTE too. As long as the phone @maheshpatel chooses has 1800mhz support, he'll be fine. Also, might be helpful to ask @Sneakyghost, he's a knowledgeable guy!
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Yes, European variant supports 4G - LTE:800/900/1800/2600 MHz
EddyOS said:
We never got the 32GB version in the UK, only the 16GB model. That's not to say it doesn't exist, mind
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Now I would definitely ask HTC UK customer support. You're based in UK so I am sure you know better than the others.

[Q] Asus Zenfone 2 ZE551ML MODEL ASUS_ZOOAD 3g

I need help, i want to buy a zenfone 2 from alegrecompra, but i dont know if the version Z00AD support 3G wcdma, i live in latin america.
Does anyone has bought this version?

I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...

thorazine74 said:
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
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H+ 3G WCDMA 2100 on CN version working confirmed. Haven't tested the other bands, but if 2100 is working the other ones should be too.

Thanks! I think its safe to assume then that WCDMA support is same across all regional versions...

Work here in Mauritius but not on all operator. One operator it show the H but download is 2G

thorazine74 said:
I made a similar question but nobody answered.
I understand that if your buying it from a Chinese based site you will get the CN version.
CN version definitely lacks many LTE bands support compared to TW or WW version, but apparently it supports the same WCDMA bands as the others, and, on top of that, it also supports TD-CDMA bands only useful in China, but never got any confitmation first hand, only real way to tell for sure would be if someone with that CN version confirms they get WCDMA coverage with a provider using the same bands as your company...
It would be wiser to get the TW version instead but its harder to find an online store selling it apart from eBay sellers and also it should be a bit more expensive I guess...
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It works on 3G WCDMA, I just bought the CN version and it working on band 1900.

@OP
I suggest you buy the Zenfone 2 that you mentioned in your post. That is an America Version that can be used in Latin America as well.
IMHO, do not buy the China or Taiwan Variants as those were specifically for Asian Continent.
Good Luck.

alfespa17 said:
I need help, i want to buy a zenfone 2 from alegrecompra, but i dont know if the version Z00AD support 3G wcdma, i live in latin america.
Does anyone has bought this version?
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The only Freq/band that the Z00AD (WW) doesn't support that the US version supports is 700 MHz/Band 17 -- there are some South/Central American providers that use that frequency, but not many.
Here's the breakdown of frequencies from the ASUS site:
2G :
EDGE/GPRS/GSM : (WW version)
850MHz/900MHz/1800MHz/1900MHz,
EDGE GPRS GSM: (TH version)
900MHz/1800MHz, Class
3G :
WCDMA: (WW version)
850MHz/900MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz
WCDMA: (TH version)
900MHz/2100MHz
TD-SCDMA: (CN/IN version Only)
1900 ~ 2100
4G :
FDD-LTE: (TW version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/900MHz(8)/1800MHz(9)/800MHz(18)/850MHz(19)/700MHz(28)
FDD-LTE: (WW version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (US version)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/700MHz(17)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (TH version)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (CN version)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)
TDD-LTE: (CN/IN version)
2600MHz(38)/1900MHz(39)/2300MHz(40)/2500MHz(41)
ASUS phone 4G/LTE band compatibility varies by region. Please check compatibility with local carriers If intending to use your ASUS phone outside the original purchase region.
SIM1 Support2G/3G/4G
SIM2 Support2G
Dual SIM Dual Active
I can't do links as a new user, but here are the frequencies used by various providers:
List of LTE networks - Wikipedia: wikipedia.org List_of_LTE_networks

i have zenfone 2 ZOOAD
stock on usb logo
anybody knows how to fix it?
help me! please!

Buying OP3 from USA and bringing it to Asia?

Just as the title says.. is it possible? Will it work with the network carriers over here?
IDC about taxes and stuff I just want to know about compatibility with the network carriers.
Sorry for my English

where in Asia?
each carrier usually uses different frequencies as allowed by local laws.
in the spec page of the OnePlus3 you can see the frequencies supported by the US version.
if you specify where you are from we can help localize the carrier support for your region.

Helpful service
Google search willmyphonework
Edit: Since Im a new member I cannot post the direct link
I used this site to make sure my op3 was compatible with the carriers in my country. Just select your phone and model (I believe A3000 is the american model) and the country and it will give you a list of compatible carriers and the bands each carrier uses.

Mostly 4G won't work. Band 3 (1800MHz) is common in Asia. Try Aliexpress. They have A3000 model for the same price (Free shipping), which has Band 3 network. I'm in Sri Lanka. I was about to buy OP3 phone from USA but skipped it because I found out the network incompatibility.

eladrichi said:
where in Asia?
each carrier usually uses different frequencies as allowed by local laws.
in the spec page of the OnePlus3 you can see the frequencies supported by the US version.
if you specify where you are from we can help localize the carrier support for your region.
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JoshAulder said:
Google search willmyphonework
Edit: Since Im a new member I cannot post the direct link
I used this site to make sure my op3 was compatible with the carriers in my country. Just select your phone and model (I believe A3000 is the american model) and the country and it will give you a list of compatible carriers and the bands each carrier uses.
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GTRanushka said:
Mostly 4G won't work. Band 3 (1800MHz) is common in Asia. Try Aliexpress. They have A3000 model for the same price (Free shipping), which has Band 3 network. I'm in Sri Lanka. I was about to buy OP3 phone from USA but skipped it because I found out the network incompatibility.
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I'm from Israel.
I just checked on willmyphonework and you guys were right, it's compatible only with 2G and 3G bands, and about 0% compatibility with 4G bands.
Ofc it's a deal breaker for me so I won't buy it in my trip to the US soon.
Do you know if maybe I can find the EU model for sale in the US?
If not, do you have any recommendations on where to buy it? Here in Israel it's about 1000 INS (about 250$) MORE than the US price...

OmerElbaz said:
I'm from Israel.
I just checked on willmyphonework and you guys were right, it's compatible only with 2G and 3G bands, and about 0% compatibility with 4G bands.
Ofc it's a deal breaker for me so I won't buy it in my trip to the US soon.
Do you know if maybe I can find the EU model for sale in the US?
If not, do you have any recommendations on where to buy it? Here in Israel it's about 1000 INS (about 250$) MORE than the US price...
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I bought mine directly from the manufacturer. There was no option at the time to select the model but they seemed to select the model for me anyway based on the ship to address, so I got the European model. I would check the different models available on that site and find the one that works in Israel

Aliexpress is a good site. Just check seller's and shop's rating. There are plenty of OP3 for sale in Aliexpress for the original price. A3000 model would support your 4G connection. (Better check yourself )

Pixel LTE bands - North America and Rest of the world

Hi there,
Looking at Google Pixels page one can see that there is two versions of the product: NA and RoW.
Question is: is there any chance of buying a RoW version in US? Has anyone ever managed to buy the past Nexus International Versions in US before?
Thanks all and regards

Took me a few seconds to figure out what RoW means. I'd like to know this too.

In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
Sent from my LG-H818 using Tapatalk

mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
Sent from my LG-H818 using Tapatalk
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Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.

Abra_Cadabra said:
Is there any difference in the UAE? Both versions support LTE Band 3 and UMTS Band 1. Should work fine in the UAE.
I'm using US 6P which also supports LTE B3 and have not had any issues at all.
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To my understanding of supported LTE, UMTS, and GSM frequencies both Pixel Variants will work in UAE but Carrier Aggregation will probably not work. Not sure if the operators in the UAE support CA (yet) but if/ when they do this will probably something that wouldn't work on the NA variant. The only combination supported by the device for UAE bands is B7+B7, which may or may not work.
Whether this is a deal breaker or not is up to you to decide.

Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.

mazroui said:
In regards to the N6p I tried to buy an Intl version from the US but it wasn't available.
Had to be bought from Intl market like EU or the Middle East..
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Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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pauleandro said:
Same with me. Worse than that, Google does not sell then in my country. So, unfortunately, I may have to buy outside US as well again.
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Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).

mazroui said:
Now that the pixel is out i can't seem to find anything online (N6p H1512 64/128gb) that comes with a warranty, if you do come across one that includes warranty please dm me.
I found out the warranty over here is handled by the retailers and is not international (covered by Google/Huawei).
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Of course, no problem. I'll let you know if I find anything.
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I am also looking at this and cannot understand the CA limitations on the US device. Unless I am mistaken the Snapdragon X12 modem supports all combinations of supported frequencies. Yet the phones have different combinations for some reason. I do not know if Google is limiting this via software. Any thoughts?

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Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?

Lots of overlap
There appears to be quite significant overlap, with the NA version supporting all or almost all LTE bands in most European countries and in many non-European countries as well (including all LTE bands in UAE):
NA version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/GPQkJ/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-td-lte-na-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
RoW version: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/vWPw8/google-pixel-xl-phone-nexus-m1-global-td-lte-128gb-htc-marlin/countries
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Hmm... just noticed that a few European countries that FrequencyCheck lists the NA version as having only partial LTE coverage for are because the site considers the NA version not to support band 8. But, according to Google's own spec page (madeby.google.com/phone/specs/ > Telephony), both the NA and RoW versions support B8. No idea if FrequencyCheck is a generally reliable source of info, as I just discovered the site a few minutes ago. I hope Google's listing for their own phone is correct, but the fact that B8 isn't included anywhere in the LTE 2xCA and 3xCA breakdowns for the NA version as it is for the RoW version makes me wonder...

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Won't work. There are two different version. One that supports international LTE bands and one that supports the bands in the USA. Just like the Nexus 6, 5x and 6P. If you buy the Pixel in the USA you'd only be able to use 3g speeds in Europe, band 7 (1800mhz) being the only exception.
In short, should you buy the pixel phone in the USA you won't have 4G in Europe and other countries that use the same bands.
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sirda said:
How comes? Both NA & RoW Pixel's tech specs show bands 3 and 20 (beside the band 7 & others) which are the most common bands used in Europe for LTE, so I can't see why the NA model won't have 4G in Europe... Can you please explain?
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Yes, the main European LTE bands are 3, 7 and 20, so it doesn't matter which version you have as both support all these bands. scandalousk is wrong.

Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)

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Partially, it'll support 4G. But it won't support LTE-Advanced (4g+)
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It'll support LTE, but won't support LTE Carrier Aggregation. LTE-Advanced is more than just Carrier Aggregation.

Redmi Note 5 TW (with LTE B28 700Mhz) - Where to buy?

Xiaomi have released Redmi Note 5 in Taiwan with more LTE band support than global variant.
TW Specs from : http://www.mi.com/tw/redmi-note-5/specs/
Taiwan model:
Code:
4G:FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Global model:
Code:
4G: FDD-LTE B1/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Many markets worldwide apart from Taiwan make use of the extra B28 (700Mhz) - Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Panama, Japan, France. There are probably more I have left out. Its basically our equivalent of B20 which gives us better rural coverage and better building penetration.
I have looked everywhere including Aliexpress and they aren't selling this model. Can anyone find it anywhere other than Xiaomi Taiwan site?

I have read:
This Band 28(700Mhz) is scheduled to begin in 2020 for mobile (5G broadband services)

That might be true in your country, its been in other places for years. Since 2014 in Australia. I think its delayed in Europe due to terrestrial TV using that frequency, ours was switched off years ago.

ok,thanks for the info

It is also used in Nigeria by a network known as Glo. LTE band 28(700) travels very far and has better in-building penetration than most LTE bands.
By the way, I've also checked Aliexpress for the variant of redmi note 5 that support band 28, and it's not available yet. I don't think I can wait for it any longer. I'll have to settle for the Global variant.

where did you get the band list for the Global version from? pdadb so far has always been accurate on the supported bands and it lists Band 28 as included for the Global version:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...e_64gb_meg7s___xiaomi_whyred&d=detailed_specs

@celoxocis Seems to differ from this one https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-5 Doesn't list B28

@lukesan
kimovil has been wrong in the past.
I used to import US version phones and always used pdadb for proper (required) bands. Where all other sites would list missing bands pdadb would list all complete bands. So I see pdadb as trustworthy and professional sites who check the phones specifications for accuracy.

@celoxocis https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9120#hong-kong,*,* another one that doesn't show B28 BUT the Taiwan version shows B28
This is all getting confusing. On all Aliexpress sellers I don't see B28, only the very much used B20 in Europe. Looking for the Taiwan version on Aliexpress seems to not show anything.

@lukesan
gsmarena never lists proper bands. it misses half the bands of my axon 7 us version (pdadb lists the proper bands). never go to gsmarena to check for bands. aliexpress only sells Chinese versions with global ROM anyway. don't go there or they will trick you to buy one of those.

I contacted aliexpress sellers that are selling global model, they said no B28. So far only place I have found is a eBay seller from Taiwan but its overpriced so not buying yet: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xiaomi-Red...hash=item1cac64e701:m:mUYSnnhRa49uuBF-7QnmBSw

Did anyone find a place? I am still looking around for this.

Not sure if it will be any help for you, but I just bought this one off of Amazon.ca - https://www.amazon.ca/Xiaomi-Unlocked-Global-Version-4-64GB/dp/B07D82MTZL/ - and it has band 28.

I bought a couple of this guy from Taiwan ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/123151713017 so I can confirm that the seller is good. Good communication answered all my questions, and he packaged everything securely inside a DHL box. The boxes inside were still shrink wrapped as I expect they would come from Xiaomi.
It may be a bit overpriced though as said here for some reason nobody else is putting the Taiwanese version up.
Aqq123 said:
FYI the list price for that version in Taiwan is TWD 8,000, or about AUD 355, so the mark-up is about 23%.
(438/355-1)*100 ~= 23.3803
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This Amazon.ca listing has the RN5 with Band 28. Both resellers (Maple Mountain Imports and JP Mobiles CA) sell the same version of the phone, and fulfilment is by Amazon. I am not sure how useful this is to anyone not in Canada, but I figured I'd mention it here for anyone who is still looking for some place besides eBay. I received mine today (2 day shipping) and the phone is new in shrinkwrap, etc.

I also purchased one from the Ebay seller as mentioned by tya99. I will also add that it was packed as described and arrived in my hand in Australia in only two days from ordering. Very happy with it.

In France, some operator already use B28, since more than 1 year ago

It is for this same reason (LTE band 28) that I wanted to buy redmi note 5 special edition. Now there is a redmi note 5 with LTE band 28 that nobody knows where to buy it from. It's a pity Xiaomi doesn't care to make it popular.
In Nigeria (the most populus country in Africa) that LTE band 28 is in hot demand used by GSM network called globacom.
I want to get that but might have to settle for global or China redmi note 5 as I have already purchased MiFi modem with LTE band 28.
I'M still in love with my old Samsung note 4 screen and camera, I don't know if redmi note 5 screen will be close to it but at some point I have to upgrade.
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This Taiwanese version has also been released in Mexico, and possibly in Chile and Bolivia. I bought mine in Mercadolivre (auction-site-turned-marketplace just like eBay), from someone who imported it from Mexico to Brazil. If you have some sort of communication channel to a seller, you can ask them directly for the model number printed on the back side of the box: the regular "Global" model is model M1803E7SG, while the Taiwanese/Mexican model with B28 support is M1803E7SH.