[Q] unacceptable data leaking on Stock Evo - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a stock HTC Evo 4G on 2.3.2 that I've hooked up to a 1gb data plan, its filling a kind of specialized role for me, only 1 app installed on which it uses about 20-30mb a day. The problem I'm having is checking my usage I noticed I was way overshooting that daily mark, I installed a data tracking app and discovered that between system.root and system.shell, I'm losing well over double the amount of data that my app is using. System.root is consistently pulling about 110% of what my app does, and system.shell is pulling about 50%, for a combined waste of 160%, I have no idea what its using this data on. Is there some way I could fix this? 2.3.2 has incredibly spartan data controls and I can't seem to find a 3rd party app that can regulate data, they all just track usage. I'm open to flashing a Rom if it'll help, but I've been out of that since my Droid X days so I'm pretty rusty.
Example: typical usage session: 45 minute timespan, app uses 5mb, system.root uses 7, system.shell uses 2.

Turn off background data in settings and you should be fine. It may have affect on other applications you use that require background data like gmail and weather apps. So be mindful of that. I hope I helped some.
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Data usage widget?

Does anyone know of a good data usage widget for hercules?
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i used this https://market.android.com/details?id=net.rgruet.android.g3watchdog
when i had a limited data plan
since i got unlimited, i totally removed it off my phone
I also use 3G Watchdog.
Works fantastic. Tells me how much data I used today/this week/this month/this cycle, and what I am trending to do for the cycle. You set your bill cycle start date and data cap limit.
I like traffic monitor better than watchdog, its just a widget but it tells youvur data usage on wifi and mobile, even which apps are using data and how much
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.radioopt.widget
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both are good choices, but 3g wathdog is more accurate IMO, it also has backup/restore option so you can continue to monitor your data usage, eve after you wipe and flash to a new ROM
I dont think theres one that auto tracks like the droid phones. All these ones you have to enter in the info
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define auto track, what do you mean by that?
if the apps don't auto track, then you'll never have updated accurate information
so, i've no clue what you are trying to say
data apps
3G Watchdog wasn't tracking any usage for me on this phone(because I'm not using 3G?). I installed one from the market called My Data Manager Free that is ok. It's more basic but seems to do the job. I've only been using it for 2 days, so I don't really know how accurate it is.
*Edit*I re-loaded 3g watchdog this afternoon and it seems to work fine now. Not sure why it didn't work when I loaded it the first time.
3g watchdog ou have to enter your billing cycle so it resets. I was wondering if there was one that jst tracked my data withoit me entering in anything
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Just use the My Account app installed on the phone. Tells you how much data you have used, how many minutes talk time and SMS messages.
I have been experiencing a lot.of issues with any data monitor not working. Any ideas?? Thanks
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[Q] does removing ciq hide data usage from sprint??

well a few monts back i started using roms that had ciq removed...
i just checked my usage data and its saying im using next to no data now...
can anyone else who has been using a nociq rom check your data rates and confirm.?
im not sure why its saying im not using data but ill deff take it haha
attached is a pic of my data usage...
Yeah. Im pretty sure it also stops them from being able to see dropped Calls and all that stuff as well.
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CIQ does use data, but probably not that much.
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Pretty sure that removing CIQ won't hide your data usage, but I have no idea why your data use would drop off like that. Is that graph for overall data use, or just 3g? Maybe you've been consuming mostly 4g data, or wifi, or roaming.
Based on my limited understanding, I'd compare this to a car's odometer vs. a car with GPS tracking.
Like a GPS tracker, CIQ allows Sprint to see your data is going and what you do (or something). Without GPS your car's odometer still shows how many miles have driven, but that's it. Sprint can still tell how much data you use if you remove CIQ, but for better or worse, they don't get any other diagnostic or personal information from your phone.
EDIT: I attached screenshots from my Sprint control panel of 3g and 4g consumption. Looks like I'm using LESS 3g but I think that's more related to me getting a micro SD card (not having to stream all my music) than anything with CIQ.
Mine is only 3g and I'm always roaming.. so that is a'll data consumption
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[Q] "Back up my data" setting question

Does anyone know if the automatic backup built into the settings uses mobile data when its turned on? Or maybe how data intensive it is? I want it on but I get by on a 200MB plan right now because I am on wifi at work and at home. I'm guessing the data it sends is small but I would hate for it to blow me up with like 100MB mobile data before I realize it. Thanks
fooldog01 said:
Does anyone know if the automatic backup built into the settings uses mobile data when its turned on? Or maybe how data intensive it is? I want it on but I get by on a 200MB plan right now because I am on wifi at work and at home. I'm guessing the data it sends is small but I would hate for it to blow me up with like 100MB mobile data before I realize it. Thanks
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It does it over data and / or wifi... but what it's backing up is so small you won't have any issues... You'll be fine....
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it only backs up a list of what you have installed rather than the actual apps. This drastically reduces the backup size, so you shouldn't have a problem with keeping this option on. If you ever have to restore your phone, it just downloads those apps from the play store (that way you can control whether or not you restore over wifi).
I suspected that might be the case. Thanks for the help!
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Tasker malware possibility?

*Edit* The problem was found to be with Titanium backup and how it reports data usage by apps after you restore it. I have contacted the developer for investigation.
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So, I have Tasker installed on my Nexus just for simple automation that turns on Wi-Fi tether when my phone's Bluetooth pairs with my car stereo (which is also Android) so I can stream Internet radio etc.
I've been noticing lately that my data has been transmitting a lot when my phone has been sitting idle so I did some investigation and found that Tasker has sent over 2GB of data this month alone. This is more than I've used while tethered! I can't think of any valid reason as to why it would need to send that much data (if any at all) so I am highly suspicious of this app. Anyone else using Tasker? Can you check your data usage to see if you're seeing the same?
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The POS mobile app isn't uploading pictures. I will post from my pc in a bit.
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You can disable using background data on data usage settings. But really, its a weird case. Mine not using any data at all...
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digitalsunshine said:
You can disable using background data on data usage settings. But really, its a weird case. Mine not using any data at all...
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Unfortunately it's 99% foreground data which means I can't block it. There shouldn't be any reason for this app to send/receive data from my phone. The only other app that uses more data is YouTube which is valid since I use it all the time. Here's the pic:
OK, this is crazy.
I just went back and checked the previous months of Tasker data usage
September: 4.0GB
August: 3.36GB (date installed was August 7th)
WTF is going on?!
If I was you I would wipe everything including SD card and start from scratch. Def seems a bit fishy...
under settings..accessibility..services tasker is it on or off?
It is off.
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There's some setting to disable/enable external apps from controlling Tasker. Do you have that enabled? If so, try disabling.
What kinda tasks have you configured? Anything that uploads photos or something?
Mancubus99 said:
So, I have Tasker installed on my Nexus just for simple automation that turns on Wi-Fi tether when my phone's Bluetooth pairs with my car stereo (which is also Android) so I can stream Internet radio etc.
I've been noticing lately that my data has been transmitting a lot when my phone has been sitting idle so I did some investigation and found that Tasker has sent over 2GB of data this month alone. This is more than I've used while tethered! I can't think of any valid reason as to why it would need to send that much data (if any at all) so I am highly suspicious of this app. Anyone else using Tasker? Can you check your data usage to see if you're seeing the same?
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Did you get install Tasker directly from Play Store? If so, might be worth to contact the developer and ask about this. I have this application running in the background for a couple of months now and haven't got this issue.
Mancubus99 said:
So, I have Tasker installed on my Nexus just for simple automation that turns on Wi-Fi tether when my phone's Bluetooth pairs with my car stereo (which is also Android) so I can stream Internet radio etc.
I've been noticing lately that my data has been transmitting a lot when my phone has been sitting idle so I did some investigation and found that Tasker has sent over 2GB of data this month alone. This is more than I've used while tethered! I can't think of any valid reason as to why it would need to send that much data (if any at all) so I am highly suspicious of this app. Anyone else using Tasker? Can you check your data usage to see if you're seeing the same?
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Did you Titanium back up and restore the system data for "Data Usage". Youtube, my highest data usage app turned into another random app after backing up my Data Usage from stock rom and restoring to Rasbean Jelly.
Royal2000H said:
There's some setting to disable/enable external apps from controlling Tasker. Do you have that enabled? If so, try disabling.
What kinda tasks have you configured? Anything that uploads photos or something?
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I only have 1 task configured that pretty much reads like this (logically)
When paired to BTxxx turn on WiFi Tether, End statement=disable tether
That's it.
I haven't changed any of the default settings in Tasker except to remove the lightning bolt from my notification bar. I just unfroze the app. The setting 'Allow External Access' is disabled.
knightmedz said:
Did you get install Tasker directly from Play Store? If so, might be worth to contact the developer and ask about this. I have this application running in the background for a couple of months now and haven't got this issue.
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I did download it from the Play Store. I have been in contact with the developer and we haven't narrowed down what the cause could be.
akash3656 said:
Did you Titanium back up and restore the system data for "Data Usage". Youtube, my highest data usage app turned into another random app after backing up my Data Usage from stock rom and restoring to Rasbean Jelly.
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I did do a restore of data usage when I moved over from CNA to Paranoid so you may be on to something here. In your case, do you show any YouTube traffic as well, or has it all been shifted to the random app?
Thanks.
OK, I think I've found the problem. It appears to be a bug in Titanium backup and restoring the usage statistics.
I have also done a restore of my data use after flashing a new ROM so I did some further testing after unfreezing Tasker for a couple of days and everything appears to be fine in that there is no data use being reported.
Thanks for the suggestion Akash3656. I am going to report my findings to the author of Titanium backup.
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GSIII churning through data

We have a user in the company that is churning through data at an incredible rate. We are getting email notifications from ATT about the mobile share group going over its 20gb limit about every hour, Rhett are 4 users in this group, 3 of them have used a combined 350mb of data in 14 days, where this other user is just now broken the 20gb mark for just one line. After several conversations with this individual the user seems clueless as to where the data is going as well clueless to the many ways it could be burning it up.
The user has historically never used hardly any data at all and this appears to be isolated to the past 14 days. It happens during working hours while the user in on the job. The user works out of a satellite office and it could be several days before a tech could get their hands on it.
We have tried having him kill open apps, reboot the phone multiple times daily and the usage still is climbing at an incredible rate, this last time showed almost 1gb in less than an hour.
Any ideas on what this "phantom" usage could be?
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What does it say under settings/ data usage? It should list all the apps that are using data and how much...
This page should show you what's using all your data. Have to tried looking at it?
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I know I can look under that menu option, at the moment, since the user is nearly 400 miles from one of our techs hands. walking him through navigating to that menu isn't really an option at this point.
Is it possible the user is using an adblocker? Just 2 weeks ago a friend of mine noticed his nexus 4 was eating up data at several gigs per day. He checked the data usage log and it was the adblocker. He had recently installed it by apk since google took them out of the play store. Turns out it routes all ip traffic on your phone out to its servers to strip the ads and then back to the phone. This eats tons of data.
In fact my friend used about 20gigs in a few days if I recall.
Definitely sounds like the culprit to me.
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YodieBuzz said:
We have a user in the company that is churning through data at an incredible rate. We are getting email notifications from ATT about the mobile share group going over its 20gb limit about every hour, Rhett are 4 users in this group, 3 of them have used a combined 350mb of data in 14 days, where this other user is just now broken the 20gb mark for just one line. After several conversations with this individual the user seems clueless as to where the data is going as well clueless to the many ways it could be burning it up.
The user has historically never used hardly any data at all and this appears to be isolated to the past 14 days. It happens during working hours while the user in on the job. The user works out of a satellite office and it could be several days before a tech could get their hands on it.
We have tried having him kill open apps, reboot the phone multiple times daily and the usage still is climbing at an incredible rate, this last time showed almost 1gb in less than an hour.
Any ideas on what this "phantom" usage could be?
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I had a similar issue where my phone ate 3 gigs of my plan over night. I installed a data monitor (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm) and found it was my stock email app. A simple data wipe in settings/Application manager fixed the leak. The above app will tell you exactly which app and how much it uses. Saved me a huge bill.

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