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i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
While the phone is capable of 3G, the new network may not be and/or may not be the same 3G as what the AT$T network is.
nu240sx said:
i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
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because simple mobile is probably a cheap service provider, so they use lower tier satellite and are lower priority than people who pay the extra bucks for good service
ive been using my tp2 with simple mobile for awhile and they are capable of 3g service. You might just have to goto your connection settings and check to see if you have it checked that you connect through a proxy. If its not put this ip address: 216.155.165.50 after you put that in goto the advanced settings right underneath where you wrote the ip and change the port number from 80 to 8080
nu240sx said:
i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
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The answer is quite 'Simple.' (Don't laugh, I know it wasn't funny...) AT&T's 3G network operates on 1900/850MHz bands while Simple Mobile uses the same bands for 3G as T-Mobile, which is the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Toput this clearly, in order to use Simple Mobile's 3G network on a Touch Pro2, you will need the T-Mobile branded device.
... As can be seen in their FAQ
What phones work on Simple Mobile 3G? Only phones with 1700/2100 AWS band work on our 3G network
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uncleswoop said:
because simple mobile is probably a cheap service provider, so they use lower tier satellite and are lower priority than people who pay the extra bucks for good service
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What satellites??? Cell networks use towers, not satellites. Is this information from a source you can cite, or just a notion you thought up in your head?
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The answer is quite 'Simple.' (Don't laugh, I know it wasn't funny...) AT&T's 3G network operates on 1900/850MHz bands while Simple Mobile uses the same bands for 3G as T-Mobile, which is the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Toput this clearly, in order to use Simple Mobile's 3G network on a Touch Pro2, you will need the T-Mobile branded device.
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The ATT version of the TP2 (the Tilt2) has the 2100 MHz radio. But it could be that Simple uses the 1700 MHz band in the OPs home market, and that is why he isn't getting 3G.
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The ATT version of the TP2 (the Tilt2) has the 2100 MHz radio. But it could be that Simple uses the 1700 MHz band in the OPs home market, and that is why he isn't getting 3G.
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Because of the high bandwidth of 3G networks, they require an upstream channel and a downstream channel. The 2100MHz band is to be used in conjunction with AT&T's 3G networks in other parts of the world, namely Asia, which is on the 900/2100MHz 3G bands. The AT&T tilt2 lacks the hardware to make connecting to Simple Mobile's 3G network possible.
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thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
nu240sx said:
thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
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No one has a hack because what you are asking for is impossible. It's not a software limitation. Your hardware does not support their 3G network as I've mentioned twice above. The radio in the tilt2 does not operate in the frequency range of Simple Mobile's AWS network. I really can't make it any more clear. You can either deal with no 3G or get a branded device. Those are your only options.
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thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
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thats because something like that would be illegal (if at all possible.)
and you would not find it on this site. and im pretty sure it would be too complicated for you and guarantee you a bricked phone.
good luck
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thats because something like that would be illegal (if at all possible.)
and you would not find it on this site. and im pretty sure it would be too complicated for you and guarantee you a bricked phone.
good luck
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Please stop posting things like this. This is the second time in this thread alone that you haven't even been close to being right. The legality of this has absolutely nothing to do with the post, nor is it actually illegal. It actually that seems this topic is too complicated for you.
still no way to exceed at&t's phone limitations? I have the captivate and am trying to find a way of making the 3g possible. so far i havent got it but all the help in the world will be appreciated. there has to be a way to do it and i know that it is here where i will find the help. Thanks in advance to all!
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still no way to exceed at&t's phone limitations? I have the captivate and am trying to find a way of making the 3g possible. so far i havent got it but all the help in the world will be appreciated. there has to be a way to do it and i know that it is here where i will find the help. Thanks in advance to all!
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OK, I looked up Simple Mobile. They use the T-Mobile 3G network. Sorry, your AT&T phone will not work 3G on that network - it has the wrong hardware modem. You are stuck with EDGE unless you get a different device.
Maybe try useing a T-Mobile radio? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
I have my tp2 on simple mobile as well & 4 tha most part itz good service occassionally I pic messaging issue but 4 tha most itz good service but in android I had 2 input tha apn manually yea yea I kno this is tha wm section but come on ppl who really usez wm since tha android port got so much better damnit I can't wait 4 nand then it might be fucc wm 4 good
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Maybe try useing a T-Mobile radio? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
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That will just not work. It is not the radio firmware, it is the hardware.
dswaggz said:
I have my tp2 on simple mobile as well & 4 tha most part itz good service occassionally I pic messaging issue but 4 tha most itz good service but in android I had 2 input tha apn manually yea yea I kno this is tha wm section but come on ppl who really usez wm since tha android port got so much better damnit I can't wait 4 nand then it might be fucc wm 4 good
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****
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Come back when you lose the text-speak and can speak English.
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Hey how bout this blow me an I'm new port,fl so come get u some
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****
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Ooh, another internet tuff guy. I'm shaking.
Hey Guys,
Just got mine in the mail today (how is a secret ;D) So if anyone has any questions let me know. Not that its going to be all that different than the other versions lol. So yeah, WOOO! I love this thing :]
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Hey Guys,
Just got mine in the mail today (how is a secret ;D) So if anyone has any questions let me know. Not that its going to be all that different than the other versions lol. So yeah, WOOO! I love this thing :]
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If you can get your MSL, try to enable the LTE Bands 26 and 41 in the ##DATA# dialer code and see if you are able to connect to the Band 26 and 41 LTE.
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If you can get your MSL, try to enable the LTE Bands 26 and 41 in the ##DATA# dialer code and see if you are able to connect to the Band 26 and 41 LTE.
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Just got the MSL and enabled both. Its rebooting. What if anything should I notice?
Okay so when i enabled them both I noticed no difference, HOWEVER there are two other values in there for priority of each band. I set them all from 1 to 0. Now LTE is staying connected even tho it goes from 1 to 0 bars. Even with zero bars im getting 3 megs down and 1 up compared to 3g .5 megs and .1 up. So appearently this seems to be a way to force LTE on as I still havnt switched over to 3g
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Just got the MSL and enabled both. Its rebooting. What if anything should I notice?
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0o0o00o....I have so many questions. Ok which market do you live in? Like which city? I want to see if you have any LTE 2600 (B41) in your area and if you do I would like to see if you can connect to a LTE 2600 tower. I am trying to confirm if LTE 2600 (B41) is truly working when you manually enable it through MSL. Also can you change your Band Priority to have B41 set to "1" to have it enabled and set B25 to "0" so it is set to lower priority.
The concern is that since as you know when you activated it with Sprint, the B26 and B41 LTE bands were disabled by default. Normally folks don't know how to enable this and the question is WHY!!!
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0o0o00o....I have so many questions. Ok which market do you live in? Like which city? I want to see if you have any LTE 2600 (B41) in your area and if you do I would like to see if you can connect to a LTE 2600 tower. I am trying to confirm if LTE 2600 (B41) is truly working when you manually enable it through MSL. Also can you change your Band Priority to have B41 set to "1" to have it enabled.
The concern is that since as you know when you activated it with Sprint, the B26 and B41 LTE bands were disabled by default. Normally folks don't know how to enable this and the question is WHY!!! So
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outside of the Atlanta Ga market. The weird thing is that when everything was set to 1 I never could connect to lte. When i set them all to 0 with all bands enabled I get a slight LTE signal. So maybe its like 0 high priority and 1 normal? And yes those bands were disabled by default
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outside of the Atlanta Ga market. The weird thing is that when everything was set to 1 I never could connect to lte. When i set them all to 0 with all bands enabled I get a slight LTE signal. So maybe its like 0 high priority and 1 normal? And yes those bands were disabled by default
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According to this thread http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4886-lg-g2-users-thread/page-2, a "0" is meant for low priority and a "1" is for high priority.
Hmmm outside of Atlanta, GA isn't specific enough. It might be hard to verify this. There is LTE 2600 available in certain parts of Atlanta, GA blasting out the signal right now but I think I need more details like the community and nearby major cross street in town.
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According to this thread http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4886-lg-g2-users-thread/page-2, a "0" is meant for low priority and a "1" is for high priority.
Hmmm outside of Atlanta, GA isn't specific enough. It might be hard to verify this. There is LTE 2600 available in certain parts of Atlanta, GA blasting out the signal right now but I think I need more details like the community and nearby major cross street in town.
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Well so far my tests have proven otherwise. Right now I just have 2600 enabled and the other disabled, With 0 value set I stays on LTE with 1 set it trys LTE but then lets go. Ill tell you Im in the worst market for lte in my area. 10 minutes in either direction and i get LTE, but where I live theres VERY little.
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Well so far my tests have proven otherwise. Right now I just have 2600 enabled and the other disabled, With 0 value set I stays on LTE with 1 set it trys LTE but then lets go. Ill tell you Im in the worst market for lte in my area. 10 minutes in either direction and i get LTE, but where I live theres VERY little.
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Well having B26 and B41 enabled doesn't mean your LTE will perform any better if the only LTE you have around you is B25. The reason to enable is that the hope is that if you are in an area where B41 LTE is available, the G2 should try to connect to that tower if it is within range. Its ok though, I am probably blowing your mind already with the stuff I am asking you to do so you can forget it. Thanks for the information though.
Btw, just curious did you get your phone already because you are an employee of Sprint or did you preorder early on Oct 11th? I preordered my LG G2 but I have not yet heard any confirmation of shipment.
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Well having B26 and B41 enabled doesn't mean your LTE will perform any better if the only LTE you have around you is B25. The reason to enable is that the hope is that if you are in an area where B41 LTE is available, the G2 should try to connect to that tower if it is within range. Its ok though, I am probably blowing your mind already with the stuff I am asking you to do so you can forget it. Thanks for the information though.
Btw, just curious did you get your phone already because you are an employee of Sprint or did you preorder early on Oct 11th? I preordered my LG G2 but I have not yet heard any confirmation of shipment.
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lol blowing my mind? XD Its just LTE values . But yeah got it early as employee
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lol blowing my mind? XD Its just LTE values . But yeah got it early as employee
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I wasn't sure how tech saavy you were. Most people would have their minds blown by now. I guess you are not the average employee. HAHA ...i just wish I could get my LG G2 , get the MSL and enable the B26 and B41 LTE bands and go to my local towers that i know for sure is blasting out LTE 2600 and verify that I am getting and able to use the LTE 2600 signal.
There is an Android app called SignalCheck Pro (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalcheck&hl=en) that can show which frequencies you are connected to.
And then you would have to verify that you are truly connected to the B41 LTE band using the ##DEBUG# dialer code under LTE Engineering.
HaiKaiDo said:
Hey Guys,
Just got mine in the mail today (how is a secret ;D) So if anyone has any questions let me know. Not that its going to be all that different than the other versions lol. So yeah, WOOO! I love this thing :]
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Oh shoot its HaiKaiDo. Have not seen or heard from you in awhile there friend. Now I see you are back on the same device as I am just a different carrier.
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I wasn't sure how tech saavy you were. Most people would have their minds blown by now. I guess you are not the average employee. HAHA ...i just wish I could get my LG G2 , get the MSL and enable the B26 and B41 LTE bands and go to my local towers that i know for sure is blasting out LTE 2600 and verify that I am getting and able to use the LTE 2600 signal.
There is an Android app called SignalCheck Pro (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blueline.signalcheck&hl=en) that can show which frequencies you are connected to.
And then you would have to verify that you are truly connected to the B41 LTE band using the ##DEBUG# dialer code under LTE Engineering.
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ill grab that app. Sounds useful. Also yeah, I work as a tech in a repair center (not that, that carrys much weight as alot of the tech are brain dead idiots!) and ive done some rom development in the past for a few phones, so no worries about things going over my head lol.
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Oh shoot its HaiKaiDo. Have not seen or heard from you in awhile there friend. Now I see you are back on the same device as I am just a different carrier.
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Duuuuude!!!! Nice Hooray! Maybe we can do something on here once things get going :]
HaiKaiDo said:
Duuuuude!!!! Nice Hooray! Maybe we can do something on here once things get going :]
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I am sure there will be a way to do that even with different carriers. Brings back memories of my old captivate seeing you here
rquiett said:
I am sure there will be a way to do that even with different carriers. Brings back memories of my old captivate seeing you here
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I still think that was the best phone I ever had lol.
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I still think that was the best phone I ever had lol.
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I got my SPRINT LG G2 as well today! so far I like it alot. Something I noticed though is now I dont have LTE in my house. however on my htc one and samsung note 3 I did. Other than that its been pretty smooth so far
You guys are killing me! I've had my phone on order since the 11th and still no phone. Any word on if they may ship any pre-orders early? Ordered mine from Best Buy
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HaiKaiDo said:
ill grab that app. Sounds useful. Also yeah, I work as a tech in a repair center (not that, that carrys much weight as alot of the tech are brain dead idiots!) and ive done some rom development in the past for a few phones, so no worries about things going over my head lol.
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Ahh i see. Well good to hear from you. Yeah that SignalCheck app is cool. I definitely recommend you getting the Pro version for $2. The app was actually developed by a member at the S4GRU.com forums and it has been very useful in finding LTE especially with the Network Vision project going around Sprint by giving you audio and message alerts when LTE and 1x800 is nearby.
There are a lot of smart people over at S4GRU.com that know a lot about Network Vision and about smartphones in general. I learned all my information from that website alone. It is because of that site, I am able to find out which areas across the US that have B41 LTE that is broadcasting live at this moment.
hey HaiKaiDo. I have been reading in other forums that the Sprint LG G2 may be suffering from B25 LTE connectivity issues? Can you confirm if you are having LTE connectivity issues thus far?
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OK so when I out a Verizon sim into the oneplus 3 it gets service and can make calls and text but no data what can we do the phone has band 2 LTE we should be able to use it for data
[email protected] said:
OK so when I out a Verizon sim into the oneplus 3 it gets service and can make calls and text but no data what can we do the phone has band 2 LTE we should be able to use it for data
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Verizon uses band 4 and 13 for data. The OnePlus 3 does not have band 13. To get data you need the proper APN and have band 4 in your area.
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Verizon uses band 4 and 13 for data. The OnePlus 3 does not have band 13. To get data you need the proper APN and have band 4 in your area.
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Hmm OK can band 13 be unlocked?
[email protected] said:
Hmm OK can band 13 be unlocked?
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Short answer is no.
Long answer is maybe. You'd have to use the qcom diag program and dig thru that. It is VERY DANGEROUS. Theoretically, the modem it uses does have the ability for band 13 (same modem has Galaxy S7) but you are talking a very low level hack. I do not recommend it.
I'm thinking of ordering a second device to tinker with but am not sure maybe we can get get a good developer on it
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I'm thinking of ordering a second device to tinker with but am not sure maybe we can get get a good developer on it
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We have the best developers. What you are asking for may be impossible. Also, it would only help a small amount of people.
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We have the best developers. What you are asking for may be impossible. Also, it would only help a small amount of people.
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True but still it would be nice to be able to use on Verizon for its coverage
Make sure the APNs are set up.
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So if I just wanted cellular service not data how well does it work ? I'm an ATT user and need better phone coverage in rural areas.
I use it for CDMA voice regularly and it works good. It runs off CDMA BC0 which is in most markets. I live in AZ and it works just as reliably as my wife's iPhone 6S+
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i have sprint. in my office LTE band 26 (800MHz) is horrible. whereas LTE band 25 (1900Mhz) and 3G (EHRPD) are decent enough. is there an app or something else i can do to choose LTE band 25 and 3G over band 26? my phone (or PRL) is set up to prefer band 25 over 26 and 26 over 3g and i dont get band 25 almost anywhere in the building so my phone end up mostly on band 26. tasker and automate seem to be no help, and the dialer codes from sprint that could do somethng similar dont work on phones that dont have sprint bloatware. any help would be apreciated
NVM, found a way.
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NVM, found a way.
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Just curious, but how?
nadiros said:
Just curious, but how?
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*#*#3282#*#* in the dialer. Need the msl to unlock but mine was just 000000 so idk if it's the same for everyone
But how do you change band priority once i n setting?
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*#*#3282#*#* in the dialer. Need the msl to unlock but mine was just 000000 so idk if it's the same for everyone
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But how do you change band priority once i n setting?
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But how do you change band priority once i n setting?
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It's pretty self explanatory once your in there. Go to LTE and I just turned off the bad band. The band priority section doesn't seem to do anything though
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It's pretty self explanatory once your in there. Go to LTE and I just turned off the bad band. The band priority section doesn't seem to do anything though
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Yeah it's the cell towers that decide the band priority.
Oddly, this code doesn't work on my Pixel XL running on Fi. I had planned to run it to tell mine to not use Band 4.
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Oddly, this code doesn't work on my Pixel XL running on Fi. I had planned to run it to tell mine to not use Band 4.
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The dialer codes are carrier specific, so this will only work if you are connected to Sprint either directly or through an mvno.
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It's pretty self explanatory once your in there. Go to LTE and I just turned off the bad band. The band priority section doesn't seem to do anything though
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So do you leave it off or only when you're at a spot with bad performance? If you remove low band you'd be missing LTE in many areas.
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So do you leave it off or only when you're at a spot with bad performance? If you remove low band you'd be missing LTE in many areas.
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i just leave it off, band 26 sucks everywhere i go... it's the most used band and the least capable...
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i just leave it off, band 26 sucks everywhere i go... it's the most used band and the least capable...
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What about areas that only have band 26?
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What about areas that only have band 26?
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like i said in my opening post, usually 3g is faster than band 26 and whenever there's only band 26 i get 3g too... or else you wouldnt be able to make calls. so im not loosing much
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The dialer codes are carrier specific, so this will only work if you are connected to Sprint either directly or through an mvno.
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3282 used to work on my mainline T-Mobile phones, but doesn't when Fi is attached to T-Mobile.
However, based on your comment I hard-switched to Sprint with *#*#34777#*#* and 3282 worked. Strange.
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3282 used to work on my mainline T-Mobile phones, but doesn't when Fi is attached to T-Mobile.
However, based on your comment I hard-switched to Sprint with *#*#34777#*#* and 3282 worked. Strange.
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Neither works on Verizxon.
Is there an available entry code similar to these for Verizon Pixels?
Is there anything that works for T-Mobile users? Band 12 sucks for me here and band 4 works much faster and have yet to find a way to put the phone on band 4 like I could with my s7.
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Is there anything that works for T-Mobile users? Band 12 sucks for me here and band 4 works much faster and have yet to find a way to put the phone on band 4 like I could with my s7.
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I don't have a problem with Band 12 but this would be awesome for T-Mobile; I'd like to know.
If any verizon users would like to poke around in there:
*#*#4636#*#*
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If any verizon users would like to poke around in there:
*#*#4636#*#*
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I have found that works and you can pick the technology between LTE UMTS and so forth, but that sadly won't let me pick which band of each to use.
Same issue
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I have found that works and you can pick the technology between LTE UMTS and so forth, but that sadly won't let me pick which band of each to use.
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I have been having horrible dropped calls / data with the Pixel XL on Verizon (my second device just got here, still doing it). I've seen people in the pixel community forums that had some success disabling band 41 using that same menu*#*#3282#*#* and I get no menu opening. Do you need to be unlocked and / or rooted to get that menu?
Does anyone have one working on Verizon? If so what did you have to do to get it to work. Thanks in advance
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Does anyone have one working on Verizon? If so what did you have to do to get it to work. Thanks in advance
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It works, Just no 5G support. Which I really don't care about.
Thanks for the info. I hold same opinion couldn't care less about 5G
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It works, Just no 5G support. Which I really don't care about.
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What are your 4G/LTE speeds like, call quality and overall call connectivity using your SM-F926B on Verizon. I want to pill the trigger on this device but want minimum strong LTE and dropped calls.
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What are your 4G/LTE speeds like, call quality and overall call connectivity using your SM-F926B on Verizon. I want to pill the trigger on this device but want minimum strong LTE and dropped calls.
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My experience is fast LTE+ 200 to 300 megabits. Good call quality. No issues at all.
Vzw on my F926b experience.
Sim has to be in slot 2. Rooted to gain access to ServiceMode app (*#73#). Did some tricks that helped DSS control, MIMO 4x4 (4xALL), Prune (removed), and ignored CA Combination not matching. So far I've been able to get 4g+ (aka 4.5g) and 5g+ when isolating the lte to bands 2 or 66 (couldn't get it under band 4, 5, 13). That said, 5g band n5 kicks in (never got 41, 66, or 77 to work). If the phone idles it's goes back to 4g/4g+ but under load back up to 5g+ (if anyone knows how to hold 5g I'dlike to know). I live in SF Bay Area including SF day trips.