[Q] simple mobile on att tilt 2 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....

While the phone is capable of 3G, the new network may not be and/or may not be the same 3G as what the AT$T network is.

nu240sx said:
i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
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because simple mobile is probably a cheap service provider, so they use lower tier satellite and are lower priority than people who pay the extra bucks for good service

ive been using my tp2 with simple mobile for awhile and they are capable of 3g service. You might just have to goto your connection settings and check to see if you have it checked that you connect through a proxy. If its not put this ip address: 216.155.165.50 after you put that in goto the advanced settings right underneath where you wrote the ip and change the port number from 80 to 8080

nu240sx said:
i just recently left att to switch over to simple mobile with my att tilt 2.....and a question i want to ask is why am i only getting edge with this network? i know this phone is capable of 3g, hsdpa/hsupa sppeds.....if anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated....
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The answer is quite 'Simple.' (Don't laugh, I know it wasn't funny...) AT&T's 3G network operates on 1900/850MHz bands while Simple Mobile uses the same bands for 3G as T-Mobile, which is the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Toput this clearly, in order to use Simple Mobile's 3G network on a Touch Pro2, you will need the T-Mobile branded device.

... As can be seen in their FAQ
What phones work on Simple Mobile 3G? Only phones with 1700/2100 AWS band work on our 3G network
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uncleswoop said:
because simple mobile is probably a cheap service provider, so they use lower tier satellite and are lower priority than people who pay the extra bucks for good service
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What satellites??? Cell networks use towers, not satellites. Is this information from a source you can cite, or just a notion you thought up in your head?

cajunflavoredbob said:
The answer is quite 'Simple.' (Don't laugh, I know it wasn't funny...) AT&T's 3G network operates on 1900/850MHz bands while Simple Mobile uses the same bands for 3G as T-Mobile, which is the 1700/2100MHz bands.
Toput this clearly, in order to use Simple Mobile's 3G network on a Touch Pro2, you will need the T-Mobile branded device.
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The ATT version of the TP2 (the Tilt2) has the 2100 MHz radio. But it could be that Simple uses the 1700 MHz band in the OPs home market, and that is why he isn't getting 3G.

redpoint73 said:
The ATT version of the TP2 (the Tilt2) has the 2100 MHz radio. But it could be that Simple uses the 1700 MHz band in the OPs home market, and that is why he isn't getting 3G.
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Because of the high bandwidth of 3G networks, they require an upstream channel and a downstream channel. The 2100MHz band is to be used in conjunction with AT&T's 3G networks in other parts of the world, namely Asia, which is on the 900/2100MHz 3G bands. The AT&T tilt2 lacks the hardware to make connecting to Simple Mobile's 3G network possible.

3g on simple mobile
thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...

nu240sx said:
thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
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No one has a hack because what you are asking for is impossible. It's not a software limitation. Your hardware does not support their 3G network as I've mentioned twice above. The radio in the tilt2 does not operate in the frequency range of Simple Mobile's AWS network. I really can't make it any more clear. You can either deal with no 3G or get a branded device. Those are your only options.

nu240sx said:
thanks for all the replies to help me understand why i cant get 3g speeds on my att tilt 2 on the simple mobile network...its a shame with all the roms, cab files and etc...no one has a hack for this...
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thats because something like that would be illegal (if at all possible.)
and you would not find it on this site. and im pretty sure it would be too complicated for you and guarantee you a bricked phone.
good luck

uncleswoop said:
thats because something like that would be illegal (if at all possible.)
and you would not find it on this site. and im pretty sure it would be too complicated for you and guarantee you a bricked phone.
good luck
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Please stop posting things like this. This is the second time in this thread alone that you haven't even been close to being right. The legality of this has absolutely nothing to do with the post, nor is it actually illegal. It actually that seems this topic is too complicated for you.

still no way to exceed at&t's phone limitations? I have the captivate and am trying to find a way of making the 3g possible. so far i havent got it but all the help in the world will be appreciated. there has to be a way to do it and i know that it is here where i will find the help. Thanks in advance to all!

justlovejoy said:
still no way to exceed at&t's phone limitations? I have the captivate and am trying to find a way of making the 3g possible. so far i havent got it but all the help in the world will be appreciated. there has to be a way to do it and i know that it is here where i will find the help. Thanks in advance to all!
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OK, I looked up Simple Mobile. They use the T-Mobile 3G network. Sorry, your AT&T phone will not work 3G on that network - it has the wrong hardware modem. You are stuck with EDGE unless you get a different device.

Maybe try useing a T-Mobile radio? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939

I have my tp2 on simple mobile as well & 4 tha most part itz good service occassionally I pic messaging issue but 4 tha most itz good service but in android I had 2 input tha apn manually yea yea I kno this is tha wm section but come on ppl who really usez wm since tha android port got so much better damnit I can't wait 4 nand then it might be fucc wm 4 good
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****

LiquidXed said:
Maybe try useing a T-Mobile radio? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
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That will just not work. It is not the radio firmware, it is the hardware.

dswaggz said:
I have my tp2 on simple mobile as well & 4 tha most part itz good service occassionally I pic messaging issue but 4 tha most itz good service but in android I had 2 input tha apn manually yea yea I kno this is tha wm section but come on ppl who really usez wm since tha android port got so much better damnit I can't wait 4 nand then it might be fucc wm 4 good
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****
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Come back when you lose the text-speak and can speak English.

dswaggz said:
Hey how bout this blow me an I'm new port,fl so come get u some
sent frm tha 573 tp2 midwest *****
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Ooh, another internet tuff guy. I'm shaking.

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[Radio Rom Hack] UTMS 1900

Guys,
the jasjar is capable of getting 1900mhz band but my question is can you mod the radio rom to use 1900 for UTMS instead of 2100?
i know its never been done but dosent mean its not possible unless some kind of hardware issue.
please let me know what you guys think, this would be a great hack so we in the USA using the Cingular network can have 3G
-1way
It's my understanding that while the Qualcomm chipset is capable of this, there are licensing implications, and the radio rom has never had the necessary software switches activated.
Also, there's going to be a hardware issue with necessary aerial for UMTS on that band missing I would assume.
well i see in the NETWORK/BAND area of the jasjar it says 1900PCS so i woudl think t he ant would be capable of getting a 1900 signal
can we take the radio rom from other cingular 3g devices and have one look at the "switches" to add then to a HTC universal radio rom?
this would be awesome as i am bummed out that my over 1,000 phone cant connect to 3g because cingular used 1900 instead of 2100..
why cant the world be standard already...
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[Cingular Blackjack Specs USA 3G]
# Dual-band domestic UMTS/HSDPA - 850/1900 MHz
# Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
[Imate Jasjar Specs WW 3G]
#Dual-Mode UMTS/GSM
# Tri-Band GSM/GPRS (900/1800/1900) + WCDMA(UMTS) (2100MHz
Oh if this were possible I would love this so much GPRS is just too slow
1wayjonny said:
well i see in the NETWORK/BAND area of the jasjar it says 1900PCS so i woudl think t he ant would be capable of getting a 1900 signal
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That's on the GSM chipset though, not the UMTS Qualcomm chipset.
1wayjonny said:
can we take the radio rom from other cingular 3g devices and have one look at the "switches" to add then to a HTC universal radio rom?
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I'm pretty certain, over a year on from it's release, if it was possible, someone would have done it.
1wayjonny said:
this would be awesome as i am bummed out that my over 1,000 phone cant connect to 3g because cingular used 1900 instead of 2100..
why cant the world be standard already...
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The world does have a standard, the USA just never adopts it.
That's on the GSM chipset though, not the UMTS Qualcomm chipset.
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Ah ok but the ant question is still up in the air
I'm pretty certain, over a year on from it's release, if it was possible, someone would have done it.
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yea but things aren't done until properly motivated, being the 3g service is new here in the USA and the rest of this forum has had not reason to really... its efforts seemed deeply untapped... =)
The world does have a standard, the USA just never adopts it.
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yes tell me about it, here use GSM/UTMS but make it non standard....
well its because 2100 is in use over here....
but this hack would be such a great feature for all us XDA USA members who just got shot by cingular...
no 3g cause my expensive phone dosent support it...
I will give $200 to someone to do it.
he world does have a standard, the USA just never adopts it.
That's the point!
dewild1 said:
I will give $200 to someone to do it.
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i would start a pot and donate 200 myself!!!
but we would need to find out if its possible before collecting money
UMTS on 1900 isn't even my annoyance. I just want quad band compatibility! I go to a University I *live* on the more urban side of the campus, but my classes are 15 mins away, in a more rural area...and the service SUCKS. I get so tired of the 'no service' beep in my bluetooh, I just turn the phone mode off. But then I'm unreachable...
I really wish I could get all four bands...-crosses fingers- C'mon 850...!
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UMTS on 1900 isn't even my annoyance. I just want quad band compatibility! I go to a University I *live* on the more urban side of the campus, but my classes are 15 mins away, in a more rural area...and the service SUCKS. I get so tired of the 'no service' beep in my bluetooh, I just turn the phone mode off. But then I'm unreachable...
I really wish I could get all four bands...-crosses fingers- C'mon 850...!
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Get an external antenna, or do everyone a favor in your class, hall this around! http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=509
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Get an external antenna, or do everyone a favor in your class, hall this around! http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=509
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Oh wow. Thanks, but I do not need the whole school thinking I have emphysema with that oxygen tank-looking thing in my room...lol.
dewild1 said:
I will give $200 to someone to do it.
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I would double that!

Help with configuring my HTC Tilt(8925) for T-Mobile 3GNewwork?

Hi everyone!!
I'm a rooky with this. I'm currently using RUU_Kaiser_HyperDragon_III_BlackStone_WWE_20081203 rom. I'm currently getting Edge service. Is there anyone kind enough to help me or guide me through how to setup my HTC Kaiser 8925 into T-Mobile 3G network? is this possible?
T-Mobile 3g configuration
hey... i have a tilt also and i have unlocked it and am using it with T-Mobile. It is my understanding that the tilt is incapable of operating on the T-Mobile 3g network as AT&T uses the 2100mhz frequency to both upload and download on their data network. T-Mobile uses 1700mhz and 2100mhz frequencies. One of them for uploads and one for downloads. I do not know which is which, but you would need to have both to function on T-Mobile. To the best of my knowledge the latest version of the factory unlocked kaiser has all the frequencies required to function on T-Mobile 3G network. I believe it is the 140 version.
wrong answer. ATT doesn't use the 2100 band at all. Otherwise we wold all be importing phones like crazy. Tmobile has the 2100 band but it slightly off from the european version. There is no way to use Tmobile's 3g on the tilt.
BTW JaceNSteale you should know what your talking about before you start making assumptions as everything you said was incorrect. The only reason this angers me is because hacking these phones has become so easy you might cause someone to brick their device with some bad advice.
thanks for the answer everyone. one other question.
when i reconnect data connection or reboot my phone i do get G service but after few minutes my phone backs to Edge mode again. is there something that i could work with on the hardware part?
EDGE is faster than G which is GPRS. So when you phone boots up its using G then is negotiates a faster speed and starts using E.
Slow >>> Fast >>> Faster
GPRS(G) >>> EDGE(E) >>> 3G
Tilt AT&T to T Mobile
I paid cash for my Tilt and have had a contract with AT&T for 3 years, so I called and they gave me my unlock code with instructions to unlock my Tilt. It was a breeze.
I changed to Tmobile this week, and thought I did all my research......................but I can't get anything faster than Edge. This is very dissappointing!!!!! .... I use my phone as a tether to my Laptop.
From reading this post, looks like I'm stuck.
Question? .... If I got an unlocked Iphone, is there a way to unlock it so I can tether with it? ... and would it get 3g or HSPA.
The sad sad things is, I was using Kaiser Tweak with AT&T, and I was getting HSPA speed with internet. Amazing really .... so going down to Edge is like taking an inch on my privates. ha ha

3G on ATT?

Changed every setting I can find on my new Touch Pro 2 but no HSPDA...
Think my phone is defective?
Any post appreciated
um... first of all, if you own a TP2, then you own a version that doesn't support US 3g.
Second.... wel no thats pretty much it.. sorry man.. If you want 3g speeds, you have to wait for AT&T to release their version of the TP2 (called the Fortress). As it is now, any TP2 that is unlocked is limited to Edge speeds. Sucks i know, but thats how it is Unless AT&T is in Europe and uses different bands for 3g over there that im not aware of.
Darn it. I know you're right it's just disappointing.
Thanks for laying it all out there for me.
Still a super cool phone tho! I hope it's not worn out before 3G makes it to me...
Was a very good replacement for my Sedna
My available WCDMA bands are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Which is kinda funny because my Sedna will do 3G on the GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) and this Touch Pro 2 will not.
kwburress said:
My available WCDMA bands are:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
Which is kinda funny because my Sedna will do 3G on the GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850) and this Touch Pro 2 will not.
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tha tis because its radio doesnt actually have those available. it may list them but they are not available. you cant always trust the interface. this has been the case with the TP1,Diamond 1, TP2 and the HD
TP2 supports 900/2100 UMTS band and missing the 1900 (Reason why I didn't get TD2 or TP2). I have an Xperia X1i which supports the 1900 band and it works with ATT 3G flawlessly
kwburress said:
Darn it. I know you're right it's just disappointing.
Thanks for laying it all out there for me.
Still a super cool phone tho! I hope it's not worn out before 3G makes it to me...
Was a very good replacement for my Sedna
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Umm, correct me if Im wrong but wont the particular touch pro 2 you have never support att's 3g? I think if you want an touch pro 2 that works with their 3g you have to buy the one branded for them dont you?
Link278 said:
Umm, correct me if Im wrong but wont the particular touch pro 2 you have never support att's 3g? I think if you want an touch pro 2 that works with their 3g you have to buy the one branded for them dont you?
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currently yes. Thats not to say someone will not figure out how to get the bands enabled but so far the efforts for the TP1 and the HD have not proven successful (last i heard). If someone firgures out how to enable them (if even possible) i believe this community would put some money in their hands me included
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currently yes. Thats not to say someone will not figure out how to get the bands enabled but so far the efforts for the TP1 and the HD have not proven successful (last i heard). If someone firgures out how to enable them (if even possible) i believe this community would put some money in their hands me included
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wait does that mean that the unlocked versions technically are compatible with USA 3g but they just have it disabled?
Link278 said:
wait does that mean that the unlocked versions technically are compatible with USA 3g but they just have it disabled?
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No the bands just arent there. I've been a helper monkey for testing the US 3g capabilities of TP1 and helping with hacking attempts on it and trust me its not happening and I'll bet same on TP2

NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ??

any idea if i change my radio version on TP2 by installing AT&T or T-Mobile it could works the 3G on it?? i have TP2 EURO Version witch is runing on Edge Speed Network.
Its highly unlikely. The only reason i'm not gonna say a definitive no is because of the rumored world tp2. Now if its anything like the last like 3-4 HTC phones the antenna for the USA 3G bands is not installed in the device so u can do all the software u want but it won't change the fact that u won't get 3G
not gonna work, there's nothing u can do. This has been addressed many times, just search.
to bad as a good phone like tp2 does not support North American 3G
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ?? ¡¡¡Wait!!!
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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you really should have read up on this forum before you bought the phone. like esincho said, this has been addressed many, many times.
bujucito said:
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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that's not really an accurate pic of AT&T's TP2. especially because of the QWERTZ keyboard. this was discussed too lol
cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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I live in a 3G arean and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
mac208x said:
I live in a 3G area and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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Yeah, there is not much of a difference if you use EDGE or 3G on the phone itself. I do everything on EDGE, and i'm quite happy. The peak i got here is 20kb/s and is fast enough for my everyday needs. I can even stream youtube normally, just like my PC.
The big difference here is when you tether. On everything else, EDGE is fine.
I live in a 3G area and just switched from my xperia to the touch pro 2 and there is a huge difference depending on what browser u use. And youtube loads very slow on edge at least for me it does. 3G was much faster!
Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
^agree, usa 3G is a must have for speedy internet, streaming, etc.
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Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar
well if you put the skyfire browser it makes a major differnece in speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXgBcegnrs
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
Regards
Omar
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Hi Bersca,
You are right, it is a Rhodium100
Regards
Omar
Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
Upfront??? Its all over these forums on HTC's website. I'm not sure how much more information you needed? A big red sign? I don't understand this confusion.
Lenstar said:
Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
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seriously, stop posting your sob story in any thread you find.
it's no one's fault but yours that you bought the European version that doesn't run 3G in the US. if you had done your research instead of relying only on whatever online store you purchased it from, you would have known that the Rhodium 100 doesn't have the necessary bands to support 3G here.
all that info is in this forum, all you had to do was look. so stop blaming the online merchant for not being "upfront" with you, because no one here will care. it's your fault for not researching the phone further than "ooohhhh the screen tilts and it's a 3.6 inch WVGA resolution and it has dual speakers and blah blah blah" learn from this mistake so you won't waste your money and posting space on the forum.

Unlocking T-Mobile for AT&T service

hi everyone:
I have been looking via numerous thread online on many Android forums especially here and have been unsuccessful for the past 2 days now. So I figured I would need to create a thread and finally give in and ask for some help. I have a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy 3 phone and I need to unlock it so that it will work on my AT&T service. Now i understand about rooting the phone and being able to play with themes etc, but its not that great if I can't use the phone itself.
Now without coming up with some kind of answer I must have watched about 40 youtube video's hoping to find out some kind of information. Mostly what I got out of it was numerous website that offer unlocking for phones at a certain price.
unlockcodesource(.)com
unlock2go(.)com
mobileunlockcodes(.)co.uk
Has anyone ever used any of these website or can someone give me some good advise on how I can get this phone unlocked please/
~Aqua
I think the toolkit stickied in the development forum has an option to SIM unlock the GS3. I have not tried this, and do not know if it works, but if the option is there, you might want to give it a shot.
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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Crisisx1 said:
If you're on contract with t mobile and your account is in good standing with them. Call them tell them you're going over seas and need to unlock your phone so you can use it. They will send you unlock code ... then pop in an att sim card and it will prompt you to enter the unlock code t Mobil gave you. Done
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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OK thank you. I followed your instructions and they said it would take up to maybe 24 hrs for the phone to be unlocked. If it isn't unlocked than she said to call back with the conformation number she gave me. If that doesn't work than they would have to give Samsung my info and could take up to 14 days. She said when you buy phones almost all stands and corp stores have already unlocked phones.
she also said it would be auto unlocked for good. Can they lock the phone back up once it is be unlocked?
~Aqua
edited: Once I have it unlocked ( if all goes good ) do i use the same APN settings that I needed to put into the phone in order for my phone to work on the AT&T network as I did with my S2 that I got unlocked ?
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
speed issue
five40 said:
Don't they use different frequencies for HSPA+
You would be relegated to edge speeds, correct me if I'm wrong
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I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
AquaWater said:
I really don't know. That would be a great question if someone would be nice enough to help me with this information? Again i have a T mobile S3 hopefully its unlocked would I be losing speeds by being on the AT&T network?
thanks
~Aqua
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The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands so it will work on AT&T's 3G network. It will not get LTE though.
You can unlock either by paying for a code from the various resellers online or requesting an unlock code from T-Mobile if you have an account in good standing with them. If you can't get the code from T-Mobile I suggest searching 'T999 unlock' on eBay and you'll find some good options.
The tmobile galaxy s3 will work on the ATnT HSPA+21 frequency. Same frequency the International version runs on for that network.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
Edge network and 3/4G Question
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
AquaWater said:
I found an excellent place so far on eBay for buying unlock codes. they have almost 3800 sells with a 99% positive feedback. Great customer service. The guy answered numerous questions of mine and made sure i did everything correctly. Payment was $24.95 US, so hopefullly everything will go good.
He was talking about being on something called an " Edge " network which is a little slower, but he said you won't notice a difference between your unlocked S2 and the unlocked S3 now. Right now my S2 says I have 3G service when I use it. I dont understand how i had a inspire4G, what is the 4G for if AT&T only gives you 3G service? And where I am in United States I should have 4G service no matter what. I'm confused on that.,
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Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
Darmokk said:
Edge is 2G speeds, which are substantially slower than 3G speeds. IMHO, 3G speeds are livable, 2G/Edge is not.
Different phones have different radios which work on different frequencies. Some phones are not compatible with other services at all, and some will work on other carriers but often not at optimal speeds.
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So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now? I'm getting 3G now with my T-Mobile S2 unlocked on AT&T, but now I'm going to have an unlocked S3, why wouldn't it be the same?
Because the radios in the devices are different.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
So than why would someone suggest that I would get "edge" instead of what i have now?
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Because he/she doesn't know what he/she is talking about. You will be fine with a T-Mobile S3 on AT&T.
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
five40 said:
That's what I said earlier in not so many words.
Voice willl work fine you will not see HSPA+ speeds on At&t with a T-Mobile Galaxy SIII.
If the T-Mobile SIII has the hardware capability to support the At&t HSPA+ bands you would need modified radio software to unlock this ability.
I believe this was done on the Galaxy Note to tun on T-Mobile HSPA+ network before it was officially launched on T-Mobile.
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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I unlocked my t999 and am using an att straight talk sim getting HSPA speeds. Going to switch back to tmobile prepay because it is way faster than att HSPA with better latency. Although coverage may be lacking, i may just switch to an att ST sim.
To answer your question, a Tmobile S3 will work on ATT HSPA+ network with the HSPA+ Speeds of up to 6-7mbps in NYC area. The average I've been getting is around 2-3.5 mbps. With the tmobile prepay sim I have, it's usually around 2-18mbps down in NYC area.
The T-mobile S3 will not work on the ATT LTE network because it lacks that radio (or so they say for now); there have been other threads suspecting it's just a matter of flashing the right radio to "turn on" the ATT LTE radio. However, if all you want is HSPA+ speeds, rest assured it will work fine.
The ATT S3 is lacking the AWS bands for TMobile so it will not get the HSPA+ on Tmobile.
Best regards.
radio issue
First off, I would like to thank everyone who has been helping me along with my issues with my phone. I appreciate it a lot and I'm picking up more knowledge more and more everyday from you guys and reading heavily on the forums.
if the hardware in the phone doesn't support HSPA+ 1) will i have to root the phone and 2) change the radio? And 3 ) if I change the radio does that mean I would need to install a custom ROM i order for it to work properly?
Also, from one of the post they said "The T-Mobile S3 has the 850/1900 3G bands " - of that is true will than I should be able to have the 3G speeds correct?
I really hope I am not making some people angry, I'm new to this and trying my hardest to understand everything so I don't make mistakes. Please bare with me. Again, thank you so much everyone who has contributed so far. I still have a lot to learn. The reason why is because I just don't want it to work ( I do, want it to work ) but I want to understand why everything is working they way it is and I've over the past almost month have been picking up a lot of knowledge. Can't wait to hear from you guys
kmdub I believe your the one that's wrong.
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
Well there it is, I stand corrected!
I had no idea the T-Mobile SIII supports At&t HSPA+ bands.
Is the same true to all T-Mobile HSPA+ phones?
Sorry for any issues, just learning
Hi everyone,
thanks so much for the info. Will the S2 I needed to put in certain APN settings inorder to receive MMS ( picture ) via texts. Do i use the same settings for the Samsung Galaxy 3?
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No, actually, you are wrong. The T-Mobile S3 does not need any modification to work properly on AT&T's HSPA network. Seems you are confusing something else with frequency. Quit spreading bad information.
OP: Don't worry about it. Some are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. As said before, if you have the T999, you will be fine on AT&T's HSPA network without any modifications (other than an account...lol). Just get the phone SIM-unlocked, pop in the right SIM, you are good to go. Seriously, it is that easy.
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