Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
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Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
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Yep, that i why i use cm. I would barely use touchwiz features and they would lag a lot when i did so i stopped using them. I changed to cm and i have never looked back. The only thing is that GPU is not optimized optimized at the moment so some things show graphical glitches and stuff. Don't know i that is going to get fixed soon, or ever for that matter. I use this tablet as a netflix-notebook machine and it works just fine.
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Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
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There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
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Pazzu510 said:
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
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So pen presure sensitivity is not implied in such custom ROMS as it is in Touchwiz?
Pen accurate location detección on and over screen, tilt sensitivity and preassure sensitivity ranging from 1 to 0 are hardware-driver based. If the ROM got the drivers and your machine has the digitizer functioning correctly, it is going to work as well as it is intended to. Furthermore, your ROM could or could not implement OS-wide functions to make a better and seamless experience for you and complementing apps. And last but not least, your ROM(like touchwiz) could add unique apps to give a better or worse experience.
TL;DR: You can have a working spen without touchwiz.
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There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
LiquidSmooth maintainer for d2usc/vzw & p600
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The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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I despise xposed?
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With the Note ii likely getting massive support an adoption, one of the most useful mods I can think of for this phone is a status bar moved to the bottom of the screen. This would mean that one would flip up to scroll the screen upward. Also, also this would require all of the wigits and notifications to be inverted.
Another possible solution to this would be an implementation of the table statusbar. That would provide some extra button options for custom roms that allow modding. However, I think many would appreciate if it could be done without affecting the rest of the UI.
Anyway, I know the modding of the Note is in it's early stages, but I can't think of a more useful mode for one-handed use.
Yeah this would be great. A Paranoid Android + Multitasking + S-Pen support ROM would be my dreams come true...
Yes, Paranoidandroid would really be great - in addition with 100% replacements for the S-Pen features.
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Yeah this would be great. A Paranoid Android + Multitasking + S-Pen support ROM would be my dreams come true...
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Yes, Paranoidandroid would really be great - in addition with 100% replacements for the S-Pen features.
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Yeah, the stock features are pretty awesome. There's really only a few features I want from custom roms that it doesn't have. When I get mine I'll be seaking a custom rom that keeps most of the stock apps and just adopt feature expansions from the custom roms.
I just went from BAMF to Paranoid Android 4.2 and for the life of me I can't figure out why so many people are talking up this ROM, could someone please explain it to me because I need to be missing something.
The only thing that looked interesting was the UI features which do not work correctly. The Opaque Statusbar and Taskbar do not work. Randomly they will go back to solid black then never goes back to Opaque. The Tablet UI seems awesome but the Taskbar buttons are way to small. So I figured I would change the DPI but it makes the Statusbar clock huge and the notifications area pop-up moves half-way off the screen rendering it unusable.
So after those features are taking away there really is no custom / developer settings on the ROM so it's pretty much pointless.
A lot of people like a tablet UI but don't like the smaller DPI or visa/versa et cetera.
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A lot of people like a tablet UI but don't like the smaller DPI or visa/versa et cetera.
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The Tablet UI is awesome but very poorly implemented it seems.
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So after those features are taking away there really is no custom / developer settings on the ROM so it's pretty much pointless.
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I came from AOKP milestone 1 to PA 2.99.5 and while I like the 4.2 I'm thinking it might be time to go back to AOKP. I thought the Phablet UI was interesting but when I tried it... it didn't work correctly. I do like the per-app customization but I'd rather customize other areas of the phone with my time. Add I miss my integrated weather on the lockscreen.
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I came from AOKP milestone 1 to PA 2.99.5 and while I like the 4.2 I'm thinking it might be time to go back to AOKP. I thought the Phablet UI was interesting but when I tried it... it didn't work correctly. I do like the per-app customization but I'd rather customize other areas of the phone with my time. Add I miss my integrated weather on the lockscreen.
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You are pretty much in the same boat am I. I was just hoping something happened during my install of Paranoid and that's why it wasn't working or features were missing or something. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this ROM is defiantly lacking.
I am staying hopeful though. Once they get this ROM out of beta maybe Tablet UI will be working, and they will include some basic customization.
I do not see any problems with PA 2.99.5 whatsoever.. It works perfectly fine..smooth, good battery life, no lags, everything works as it should.. Once again, it is a matter of preference.. You putting up this thread was a matter of preference.. But once again, it is advisable that you do not complain by making a new thread.. Just post in the PA thread.. Molesarecoming is always open to constructive criticism..Once again, the word is "constructive criticism" the diversity of ROMs in the Galaxy Nexus community is what makes many stick with the nexus. so before bashing other ROMs, please just remember you not liking it, doesnt mean it's the same for others. If you hate it so much twitter it or fb it or something. >.<
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I do not see any problems with PA 2.99.5 whatsoever.. It works perfectly fine..smooth, good battery life, no lags, everything works as it should.. Once again, it is a matter of preference.. You putting up this thread was a matter of preference.. But once again, it is advisable that you do not complain by making a new thread.. Just post in the PA thread.. Molesarecoming is always open to constructive criticism..Once again, the word is "constructive criticism" the diversity of ROMs in the Galaxy Nexus community is what makes many stick with the nexus. so before bashing other ROMs, please just remember you not liking it, doesnt mean it's the same for others. If you hate it so much twitter it or fb it or something. >.<
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I'm not bashing anyone work at all, honestly I just wanted to know if I was missing something from the ROM since so many seem to use it. I have used it for 2 days now and none of the UI tweaks are functional, or do not work properly or are just way to small with no functional way to increase size. But the ROM is smooth and quick with insane boot speed.
Here is info on PA 2.99+ in a nutshell. First and foremost, you all downtalking tabletui need to realize that it does not actually exist in android 4.2, the paranoidandroid team found it deactivated by google in the code for 4.2 and they spent their time making it available again, it is in no way a finished product, if you want to see it work good then download a version of PA with an android 4.1x base ( i.e. PA 2.54 or before). Now onto people that cannot see the big deal, well anyone that tried the pre 4.2 PA knows that there is more customization available in PA than any other rom put together. Now PA 2.99+ are all AOSP based instead of CM based so they basically are building this rom from scratch to improve speed, performance and battery life for everyone, this means that a lot is not even integrated back into the rom yet. Simply trying out the newest PA will not give you a feel for why it is hands down the best rom out there. As for transparency, that only works on the homescreen and in order to properly utilize it you must A. be using a compatible launcher which has the homescreen backgrounds drawn correctly ( i.e. Apex, Stock or Holo etc, NOVA does not work) B. Choose a correct transparent hexcode or slide the transparency bar to where you would like it for that said Launcher in the "apps" section of paranoid preferences. I am on 2.99 Beta 5 and have full transparency with no issues that you speak of (Photo included as proof), in fact, Beta 5 has added almost everything I want back into the rom and fully functional, I can hardly wait for v3.0, seriously, I cannot see ever using another rom after using paranoidandroid, it just has the edge on everything else out there. AOKP and CM have nothing on it especially when it's at 100% again, which will be in the next couple weeks at the rate it's awesome devs work at!
tabUI is not existant in 4.2, what you see right now is raw honeycomb. if you want to see how good it was install 2.54, thats still based on 4.1. but right now i got to make my hands dirty with this. i know that on xda most people do not understand the difference between developing and kanging, and they wonder "why's this rom slower than others" but someones gotta do the dirty work and im okay if crackflashers avoid ours. they avoid cm for the same reason.
as for hybrid engine, i dont think you have understood it yet. it works flawless and it gives you more customization than all roms on xda combined, IF you can handle it. yes, you are able to make a button pink in this and that rom, but hybrid can transform thousands of apps and components to the better, with practical implications that are unheard of. the apps that are running on your huge 720p screen were not optimized for it, they're in the same layout that applies to pocketwatches or stone age miniature phones like the htc wildfire.
as for opacity, no app, obviously, draws underneath the bars - why would it. the launcher can do it, but again - not all do. nova has even a bug that offsets the wallpapers which leaves a black gap. our launcher works, apex works, holo works and perhaps a bunch of others. no rom does it differently, simply because its impossible.
the real difference is that we are producing features that push androids boundaries, we are sick of a homogen rom culture that hasnt really moved one inch for a couple of years now. all these roms are the same, do you realize that? kanging has produced one grey mass and nothing stands out. when we are done with our beta we will of course bring in all the essential features aswell, but new features have greater priority. and these blow everthing related to it clean out of the water.
compare build.prop hacks with hybrid engine, its like night and day. this is quite possibly the biggest rom scene improvement android has ever had.
compare rom scene color tweaks with per-app-color, its like night and day. normal roms are static, they give you one color and thats that. our colors shift from app to app.
compare extended desktop (which also came from us) with per-app-fullscreen
compare our recents with clearall implementations,
we had the most versatile toggles on android in 4.1 (right now we're implementing a new panel which will come in beta6)
etc.
but you got to understand that this stuff takes alot of time. i know i could just rename an open source rom, call myself "founder," post in 30 device forums and make craploads of money here on xda, but i chose not to and im happy i found a few guys that think in the same way. im content with the few people that use PA and the support i get from those, i dont see myself competing with any other rom for that matter. i dont feel like i have to stop all my work now just because this and that rom has a minor option that we dont have at the moment.
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tabUI is not existant in 4.2, what you see right now is raw honeycomb. if you want to see how good it was install 2.54, thats still based on 4.1. but right now i got to make my hands dirty with this. i know that on xda most people do not understand the difference between developing and kanging, and they wonder "why's this rom slower than others" but someones gotta do the dirty work and im okay if crackflashers avoid ours. they avoid cm for the same reason.
as for hybrid engine, i dont think you have understood it yet. it works flawless and it gives you more customization than all roms on xda combined, IF you can handle it. yes, you are able to make a button pink in this and that rom, but hybrid can transform thousands of apps and components to the better, with practical implications that are unheard of. the apps that are running on your huge 720p screen were not optimized for it, they're in the same layout that applies to pocketwatches or stone age miniature phones like the htc wildfire.
as for opacity, no app, obviously, draws underneath the bars - why would it. the launcher can do it, but again - not all do. nova has even a bug that offsets the wallpapers which leaves a black gap. our launcher works, apex works, holo works and perhaps a bunch of others. no rom does it differently, simply because its impossible.
the real difference is that we are producing features that push androids boundaries, we are sick of a homogen rom culture that hasnt really moved one inch for a couple of years now. all these roms are the same, do you realize that? kanging has produced one grey mass and nothing stands out. when we are done with our beta we will of course bring in all the essential features aswell, but new features have greater priority. and these blow everthing related to it clean out of the water.
compare build.prop hacks with hybrid engine, its like night and day. this is quite possibly the biggest rom scene improvement android has ever had.
compare rom scene color tweaks with per-app-color, its like night and day. normal roms are static, they give you one color and thats that. our colors shift from app to app.
compare extended desktop (which also came from us) with per-app-fullscreen
compare our recents with clearall implementations,
we had the most versatile toggles on android in 4.1 (right now we're implementing a new panel which will come in beta6)
etc.
but you got to understand that this stuff takes alot of time. i know i could just rename an open source rom, call myself "founder," post in 30 device forums and make craploads of money here on xda, but i chose not to and im happy i found a few guys that think in the same way. im content with the few people that use PA and the support i get from those, i dont see myself competing with any other rom for that matter. i dont feel like i have to stop all my work now just because this and that rom has a minor option that we dont have at the moment.
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Wonderfully said.
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I just flashed to this rom yesterday and really like it so far. I am interested in flashing to the newest 2.99 version. Where I can get the correct download for my phone, and do I need to update my recovery and if so, where do I get the link for that?
Thanks
btvolta said:
I just flashed to this rom yesterday and really like it so far. I am interested in flashing to the newest 2.99 version. Where I can get the correct download for my phone, and do I need to update my recovery and if so, where do I get the link for that?
Thanks
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I think the new 4.2 based PA roms might only be available for the Nexus series phones and tablets currently since the developers have started over building it from the ground up using AOSP source instead of CyanogenMod. I am not certain if the code is out there for other devs to build on their particular devices yet though.
I used to install and tweak a new ROM almost every other week on my OG Evo 4G. Since I got a Verizon Galaxy Note 2, I've just kept it to Nova Launcher as my only "hack". I was looking at rooting and trying out some ROMs but I was wondering what functionality I would lose if I go with non-Samsung based ROMs like MIUI or AOKP (or whatever the latest fashion is).
Pen?
Pen hover cursor?
Multi-app functionality?
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You would lose all the touchwiz apps such as snote, smart rotation and smart stayon, Hover scroll and info, annoying touchwiz sounds and notifications, FM radio app, the ugly tw ui, and the excellent battery life.
With custom Aosp roms you would get 70percent of the battery life compared to touchwiz Rom, additional and easy modifications to the UI, faster and more fluid overall performance. The hover icon of the Spen can be enabled but you wouldn't get the same feedback when hovering over items in screen, as for the radio app you'll need to install 3rd party app such as Spirit Radio. These are just the few stuff you would gain I suggest you try it out.
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Awesome thanks. I hardly use any S-Apps so that's not a big deal. Also, I charge every night but get 2 days worth of charge so battery life is fine by me. My big thing is when I'm doing a quick remote desktop connection for my job, I like to use the S-Pen to better hit small buttons and links on the screen. As long as that functionality is there (I know it's dependent on the ROM developer/port) I'm good to go.
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Awesome thanks. I hardly use any S-Apps so that's not a big deal. Also, I charge every night but get 2 days worth of charge so battery life is fine by me. My big thing is when I'm doing a quick remote desktop connection for my job, I like to use the S-Pen to better hit small buttons and links on the screen. As long as that functionality is there (I know it's dependent on the ROM developer/port) I'm good to go.
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Almost every aosp rom I've tried has the hover feature built in. I would suggest you try out Carbon Rom as its very stable and packed with a lot of neat features.
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I used to install and tweak a new ROM almost every other week on my OG Evo 4G. Since I got a Verizon Galaxy Note 2, I've just kept it to Nova Launcher as my only "hack". I was looking at rooting and trying out some ROMs but I was wondering what functionality I would lose if I go with non-Samsung based ROMs like MIUI or AOKP (or whatever the latest fashion is).
Pen?
Pen hover cursor?
Multi-app functionality?
Etc...
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Hey All!
So my Nexus 4 took a big spill the other day that put it out of commission and i had to go to T-Mobile to get another phone. Last month i looked into the phones that were on the market (because my friend lost hers and i was helping her pick out a phone) and the choices we came down to were Nexus 6, Galaxy S5, and LG G3. Well She ended up finding her old phone but from that research i knew which one i wanted to get. I really like the nexus series but 6 inches is a deal-breaker for me, my biggest complaint about this LG G3 is that its too big...
In any case, i have had the phone for about one day but i can't stand the LG ROM on it. It feels slow (even with 3GB of RAM in this thing!) and I really don't like all the bloat ware the Tmobile put on my phone.
I like the stock android experience and want to find one that comes pretty close to it (although extra features are always a plus). Here is what I prioritize in my phone (starting with highest priority and going down:
-Stable, First and foremost i cannot stand a crash, i hate hate hate it. I need the ROM to work just as well (if not better) than the stock android ROMs on the nexus line
-Working Hardware, i take a bunch of pictures and am constantly using mobile data (4G LTE) so i need all these to work well
-Battery Life, I play games a lot on my phone during the day when waiting around for the bus or whatever, i like to have my battery last as long as possible so i don't need to break out a portable charger.
-Responsive, i don't need to have a ton of crazy amazing features, but i do want it to be responsive, nothing peeves me more than having input lag when texting someone.
-Customizability, i really do enjoy the fact that i can change the home buttons on that appear on the bottom of the screen on the LG G3 ROM, its a nice touch to be able to tap a button to get your notifications to pull down (especially on such a large phone), so customizability of small features like that go along way with me, small things like being able to see the day next to time i really love.
-Lastly i like to have my phone flat on my desk a lot and with the button on the back the best way to turn it on is the double tap, so if possible (but not necessary) i would like to retain that feature.
Some ROMs i have been looking at and read reviews but cant really decide which to try are Cyanogen Mod 12, Illusion, and PurpleDrake.
Based on my user profile (what is most important to me) which ROMs (can be one of the ones i listed or whatever one you think works best) would you recommend.
Also is flashing a custom kernel very popular on the LG G3? I know it was on the nexus 4 but is it also beneficial on this device?
Last, is there a good instruction on xda for rooting and unlocking the bootloader (and possibly flashing a custom recovery) for the LG G3 D851 (The specific one i have)?
Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
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Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Do you know any specific problems that AOSP have with the G3 hardware over the Stock? I am really looking to get rid of bloatware and increase responsiveness and battery life. I just get this weird feeling like the stock ROM is slooooooow.
Also does the Xposed framework load down the phone at all? I feel with each module i install it would get progressively slower with all the stuff running in the background. Doesnt seem very lightweight after having the cloudyG3 installed i should have a ton of features (since its stock and not AOSP). seems like it would lag down it even more.
I'm just looking for a stable ROM with a decent set of features (i don't need anything too crazy) that is responsive (i feel with 3GB of RAM i shouldnt have to deal with lag anymore) and has a decent battery life (3000mAh is a lot, even with the large screen). What can you guys recommend based on that simply details?
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Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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sharpeyedman said:
I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
sudosilman said:
What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
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i get about 4 hours sot i run stock and i used titanium backup to remove all the tmobile bloat and changed my startup and shut down logo since i run this on cricket which is now att.
i love att but will only use tmobile phones.
Hello everyone,
I recently bought a Tab S 8.4 and I do have it rooted along with a custom recovery but I'm still running the stock Lollipop Samsung ROM with Touchwiz. Here is my question: If I were to flash a non-Samsung ROM like IronROM or CM12 or anything based on AOSP, what are the Samsung features I would be losing?
Here's what I can tell so far:
Fingerprint Reader
Multi-Window
Touchwiz Overlay
Hancom Office Software
S-Voice? Unsure
Peel Smart Remote? Unsure
Toolbox
Quick Connect
Will I lose Power Saving and Ultra Saving Modes? Unsure
Guest mode/Private mode
Knox? Unsure what this does
Thank you.
Bumping this in case anyone has any insight they could share with me, thank you.
IronROM is a Touchwiz 5.0.2 ROM, not AOSP. Since you have custom recovery isntalled, you should try flashing AOSP ROMs to experience the difference yourself. Perhaps you'll become a flashaholic like many of us :victory: . A Marshmallow ROM is available. I tried several TW and AOSP ROMs on various devices, and I decided I prefer TW.
HKSpeed said:
IronROM is a Touchwiz 5.0.2 ROM, not AOSP. Since you have custom recovery isntalled, you should try flashing AOSP ROMs to experience the difference yourself. Perhaps you'll become a flashaholic like many of us :victory: . A Marshmallow ROM is available. I tried several TW and AOSP ROMs on various devices, and I decided I prefer TW.
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Unfortunately, I now consider myself to be a reformed flashaholic I was hoping to avoid flashing several ROMs since it's a time-consuming process.
I did read up on some ROMs and might move over to IronROM since it keeps some of the Samsung features that might be useful. I'll end up deleting/freezing others that I don't want I suppose.
Thanks.
Personally, the only thing that keep me from using an AOSP Rom is Split Window, something that I use a lot.
You should consider if there is some TouchWiz feature that you can't live without, I consider most of it crapware.
Dont forget to run the Wanam LP Xposed module. It adds some customizations to TW.
Thanks all. I think multi-window and fingerprint reader are enough to keep me on the TouchWiz. I'll switch to IronRom and with Xposed that should do the trick, especially if I disable a lot of other Samsung bloat. Thanks again!
One major factor to me is that aosp does not support exfat. In this day and age and the size of media files that's a killer.
Also let's put something straight. TW like any other gui such as sense is just an enhanced interface.
It does provide many useful features. Samsungs problem is its insistence on bogging it down with unnecessary bloat, also knox should be optional.
TW can be just as efficient as aosp or cm.
On the tab A they included very little bloat and it runs very well.
The tab S has quite powerful hardware and should fly, which it does when all the chaff is removed.
ashyx said:
One major factor to me is that aosp does not support exfat. In this day and age and the size of media files that's a killer.
Also let's put something straight. TW like any other gui such as sense is just an enhanced interface.
It does provide many useful features. Samsungs problem is its insistence on bogging it down with unnecessary bloat, also knox should be optional.
TW can be just as efficient as aosp or cm.
On the tab A they included very little bloat and it runs very well.
The tab S has quite powerful hardware and should fly, which it does when all the chaff is removed.
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Oh I had no idea about the lack of exfat support! That settles it then, I'm sticking with TW for sure and will switch to IronROM since it adds a few things and also enables the use of Xposed due to being deodexed etc. I can definitely disable the other bloat I don't need, in fact I have done that already on my current stock 5.0.2 ROM as well.
I am a serial Nexus user and the last 10 or so of my devices have all been Nexus, so TouchWiz is taking some getting used to. It does add some useful features and it's easy enough to get rid of what you don't want/need.
Thanks again everyone, much appreciated.
the7thson said:
Thanks all. I think multi-window and fingerprint reader are enough to keep me on the TouchWiz. I'll switch to IronRom and with Xposed that should do the trick, especially if I disable a lot of other Samsung bloat. Thanks again!
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Cm13 does suport fingerprint sensor and multi Window (not 4 Windows, or mini Windows) but fingerprint isnt working right now.
Peel does work with aosp.
S voice is crap and Google search (even cortana beta) is far better.
Toolbox can be used by using an app called Toolbox (play store it, there are 5 i think)
So, you will only lose (and miss) ultra power saving Mode, because cm13 (even xposed modules have) has Its own saving Mode called doze
Knox is a security Mode to protect your info. (i never use it)
Guest/private Mode, are cm since cm12 and of course on cm 13 too
Soundcamp, the music workstation from Samsung, does not work on AOSP but is OK on IronRom.
BraianV said:
Cm13 does suport fingerprint sensor and multi Window (not 4 Windows, or mini Windows) but fingerprint isnt working right now.
Peel does work with aosp.
S voice is crap and Google search (even cortana beta) is far better.
Toolbox can be used by using an app called Toolbox (play store it, there are 5 i think)
So, you will only lose (and miss) ultra power saving Mode, because cm13 (even xposed modules have) has Its own saving Mode called doze
Knox is a security Mode to protect your info. (i never use it)
Guest/private Mode, are cm since cm12 and of course on cm 13 too
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Finger print will never work for this device on an AOSP ROM. The sensor is a proprietary Samsung device, they will not release the source code for it. Regardless of the native support for fingerprint sensors in MM, it is impossible to build support for the Samsung sensors into an AOSP ROM without the source code.