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I'm an X ios user, pun intended In a Jailbroken ios environment all 3rd party/unsigned app development is housed under an app called Cydia. Within Cydia you can add developer repositories that host their apps,tweaks etc... Cydia takes all your repositories and creates a directory where you can search or browse by category. Essentially, all tweaks/apps are available for all phones; you just need cydia.
After fiddling around with custom roms like Android Revolution HD and ViperX, I'm starting to see access to tweaks universally is not a reality in the droid world. Though I'm hoping that I'm completely wrong and somebody can show me the light.
Am I able to install the following features on ARHD? or are they solely available in ViperX? are there other tweaks or apps that offer these features?
-Remapping capacitive keys for short hold
The recent HTC update enables this for the menu key, however viper enables all 3 keys.
-Quick Setting, and the ability to move and remove quick settings items.
-Disabling the HTC script that buggers the wi-fi and network between 12am-7am
-Quad Core Cpu usage info Notifications
-Quick theming abilities
Any help is much appreciated!
It's all tweaks, especially the WiFi-killing one that was first developed by J4n87, which also makes the ViperX ROMS. It's also available as a separate app in the Themes and App forums
For Home and Back, maybe why many ROMS don't offer fully costomizable remapping is cos many are satisfied with what those buttons already do, while the ViperX team just gives you everything to mess with, and you gotta help yourself if you mess it up.
ArmedandDangerous said:
It's all tweaks, especially the WiFi-killing one that was first developed by J4n87, which also makes the ViperX ROMS. It's also available as a separate app in the Themes and App forums
For Home and Back, maybe why many ROMS don't offer fully costomizable remapping is cos many are satisfied with what those buttons already do, while the ViperX team just gives you everything to mess with, and you gotta help yourself if you mess it up.
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Are there ways to achieve this tweaks without a custom rom?
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Are there ways to achieve this tweaks without a custom rom?
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If by 'without a custom rom' you mean you want these tweaks on the Stock rom then as per my knowledge the answer is No. I might be wrong. But
I had suggest flash the new version of Viper i.e. 2.0.1 . In my opinion it is as stable as the stock ROM and definitely much better with all the tweaks you get. It looks just like the stock rom with no visible changes. Has just an addition 'Viper tweaks' section in the settings where the extra tweaks are available. It never crashes or gets stuck, is much more smooth than the stock rom and the battery life is also much better.
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Are there ways to achieve this tweaks without a custom rom?
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If by 'without a custom rom' you mean you want these tweaks on the Stock rom then as per my knowledge the answer is No. I might be wrong. But
I had suggest flash the new version of Viper i.e. 2.0.1 . In my opinion it is as stable as the stock ROM and definitely much better with all the tweaks you get. It looks just like the stock rom with no visible changes. Has just an addition 'Viper tweaks' section in the settings where the extra tweaks are available. It never crashes or gets stuck, is much more smooth than the stock rom and the battery life is also much better.
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I sincerely apologize if this is not posted in the correct location or if such a request is out of line. The only reason I am posting about this is because I believe that there would be a fair amount of people who would be interested.
I've installed many ROMs since I got my Galaxy Nexus on release day last year, but I have always come back to AOKP because every other ROM I've installed was missing at least one feature of AOKP that I use. Recently however I started playing with DPI settings and I'm in love with 240. I like the tablet layout of most apps, but certain ones, like the phone app look a little strange. Also, some apps, like the Navigon navigation app are next to impossible to use at this DPI. Naturally, I immediately flashed Paranoid Android so that I could get the per-app control of DPI. That lasted all of about 10 minutes, because I immediately noticed it was missing far too many features.
So basically I'm looking to see if there's a dev out there who can kang the Paranoid Settings to AOKP. Maybe if there's enough interest from other people who would like this I could set up a pool for donations. I know there's a couple ROMs floating around that are AOKP based Paranoid rather than CM based, but they are for other devices.
Eventually I'm going to try to do this myself if no one else is willing/able, however between being in school full time and my two jobs I probably wouldn't be able to start teaching myself until about May. Plus, my laptop is about 6 years old and I'm afraid it will be an extremely slow process.
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This!
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So far it seems like I've found three ROMs for other devices that combine PA and AOKP. King Kang for the Galaxy Note (which I think is still on ICS), PACman mostly on Sony devices as far as I could tell (PA/AOKP/CM), and Disarmed Toaster on some HTC phones. It's definitely possible and I imagine it would be quite popular...we just need to get a dev with a GNex to see the benefits!
Why don't you go to the AOKP thread and request the dev do so? Better to post there than here anyway. Don't get your hopes up though
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Why don't you go to the AOKP thread and request the dev do so? Better to post there than here anyway. Don't get your hopes up though
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As far as I know they're still not interested in hearing feature requests unfortunately.
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I'm sure CM will become more of a beast with each update, and PA uses it as its base. Already highly customizable. I'm not even sure what the benefit of using AOKP as a base would be.
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Love this idea I thought about something similar 2 weeks ago when I flashed CNA on my Gnex. I know there to different development teams but I would love to see a Code Name Paranoid ROM that ROM would kick azz but that just opinion but +1 to this idea
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I'm sure CM will become more of a beast with each update, and PA uses it as its base. Already highly customizable. I'm not even sure what the benefit of using AOKP as a base would be.
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The benefit of using AOKP as a base would be that there are a lot of very useful features in AOKP that aren't in CM.
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I thought AOKP already had a tablet mode? But I haven't wanted to leave PA yet.
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I thought AOKP already had a tablet mode? But I haven't wanted to leave PA yet.
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It does. PA isn't about tablet mode, its about being able to control each app individually.
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I thought AOKP already had a tablet mode? But I haven't wanted to leave PA yet.
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no, its has build.prop dpi and a sysUI hack.
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The benefit of using AOKP as a base would be that there are a lot of very useful features in AOKP that aren't in CM. 2
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honestly, i think people are not fair with cyanogenmod. cm is a great rom and has tons of features. yes you cant color your buttons pink other than using theming engine, but my goodness is that really such a strongpoint? toys will sure come aswell.
i have seen these mixups btw, paranoid + cm + aokp. it pains me. i wont interfere but man, this is crazy. one rom i have seen has four toggle implementations, two from cm, one from us, one from aokp, it mixes paprefs with aokps dpi changer and a non-standard build.prop dpi, etc. its a complete mess and sometimes i wish i wish they'd just kang hybrid engine without bringing our name into it lol. :silly:
the reason its not easily ported to other roms is that its complicated. its literally spanning all over android, framework, core, policy, res, graphics, parts of sysUI rewritten from scratch, androids layout definitions were changed, apps had to be adjusted - and then the hybrid engine itself of course. its not a simple "git fetch" and you got it, it grew over half a year, hundreds of commits, reverts and pushes.
what really matters is what's more important to you. a pink button or a completely renewed phone with functions it never had before. you know, we're developers, too. you might aswell request someone should bring over missing features to cm/pa, its getting a little bit discouraging to see the focus in all devcommunities is often on kanging instead of developing.
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honestly, i think people are not fair with cyanogenmod. cm is a great rom and has tons of features. yes you cant color your buttons pink other than using theming engine, but my goodness is that really such a strongpoint? toys will sure come aswell.
i have seen these mixups btw, paranoid + cm + aokp. it pains me. i wont interfere but man, this is crazy. one rom i have seen has four toggle implementations, two from cm, one from us, one from aokp, it mixes paprefs with aokps dpi changer and a non-standard build.prop dpi, etc. its a complete mess and sometimes i wish i wish they'd just kang hybrid engine without bringing our name into it lol. :silly:
the reason its not easily ported to other roms is that its complicated. its literally spanning all over android, framework, core, policy, res, graphics, parts of sysUI rewritten from scratch, androids layout definitions were changed, apps had to be adjusted - and then the hybrid engine itself of course. its not a simple "git fetch" and you got it, it grew over half a year, hundreds of commits, reverts and pushes.
what really matters is what's more important to you. a pink button or a completely renewed phone with functions it never had before. you know, we're developers, too. you might aswell request someone should bring over missing features to cm/pa, its getting a little bit discouraging to see the focus in all devcommunities is often on kanging instead of developing.
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VERY well said.
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honestly, i think people are not fair with cyanogenmod. cm is a great rom and has tons of features. yes you cant color your buttons pink other than using theming engine, but my goodness is that really such a strongpoint? toys will sure come aswell.
i have seen these mixups btw, paranoid + cm + aokp. it pains me. i wont interfere but man, this is crazy. one rom i have seen has four toggle implementations, two from cm, one from us, one from aokp, it mixes paprefs with aokps dpi changer and a non-standard build.prop dpi, etc. its a complete mess and sometimes i wish i wish they'd just kang hybrid engine without bringing our name into it lol. :silly:
the reason its not easily ported to other roms is that its complicated. its literally spanning all over android, framework, core, policy, res, graphics, parts of sysUI rewritten from scratch, androids layout definitions were changed, apps had to be adjusted - and then the hybrid engine itself of course. its not a simple "git fetch" and you got it, it grew over half a year, hundreds of commits, reverts and pushes.
what really matters is what's more important to you. a pink button or a completely renewed phone with functions it never had before. you know, we're developers, too. you might aswell request someone should bring over missing features to cm/pa, its getting a little bit discouraging to see the focus in all devcommunities is often on kanging instead of developing.
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Thank you for chiming in!
I would be glad to put the little extra effort into using ZipThemer to change the NavBar buttons/colors in exchange for having ParanoidPreferences. CM however is missing a lot of things that I haven't been able to find any other way of accomplishing other than using a ROM with the features built in. Let me provide thorough specifics. I don't know how familiar you are with AOKP Rom Control, and obviously this is all personal to me, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. There's nothing in General UI, Lockscreen, Power Menu, Clock, Signal, Sound, Weather, Vibrations, or Performance that I use. The Navigation Bar section however is a lot better. Not because of color/icon selection but because of the longpress settings and because of the NavBar Ring Targets. Neither of those are things I could find a way to replicate in CM/PA, and both have proven to be extremely useful. Also, I like the ability to set NavBar height separate from status bar DPI...this may have been in PA but I missed it. In terms of Battery; I use the battery bar, and hide the icon in the status bar. I know there's an app with similar functionality, however it doesn't work the same. As far as I could tell Toggles were pretty much the same. For LED, I don't use any of the settings other than being able to have the LED flash with the screen on. This, to me, is a necessity.
I agree 100% that the PA/AOKP/CM combinations are a bit ridiculous. (If you notice in the OP, I was looking for someone to add ParanoidPreferences into AOKP, not combine the ROMs). If I had the time/ability to do it myself, I would remove the DPI, tablet mode, and dual panel options from ROM control and just add ParanoidPreferences.
As I said, I would gladly give up some "convenience" features of AOKP, but some of the actual functionality I can't do without at this point. I did post a couple feature requests in the PA forum, but I'm very hesitant to do so. You have done amazing work, and I always feel that by requesting more features I would be minimizing all the hard work the devs have done.
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I don't know if this will ever happen, but I agree.. I LOVE aokp and the fact that it has basic tablet mode, but I had to stop using it because a holistic "tablet button" isn't quite usable for me.
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You said cm is missing a lot of things, but in the midst of your lengthy paragraph was only two or three small tweaks. No ROM can make everyone one hundred percent happy, but it sounds like PA has 99 percent of what you need.... am I missing something?
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You said cm is missing a lot of things, but in the midst of your lengthy paragraph was only two or three small tweaks. No ROM can make everyone one hundred percent happy, but it sounds like PA has 99 percent of what you need.... am I missing something?
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I don't recall saying CM is missing a lot of things, but if I did than I apologize. In the OP at least I said this:
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I have always come back to AOKP because every other ROM I've installed was missing at least one feature of AOKP that I use.
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It's not about the amount of features, it's about weighing the importance of features. I guess in my mind I thought it would be easier to add ParanoidPreferences to AOKP rather than the other way around. Mostly, as I said, because the PA developers are busy with their own thing and don't need a bunch of people asking for new features. If those couple features could be added to PA that would be much preferred.
I just went from BAMF to Paranoid Android 4.2 and for the life of me I can't figure out why so many people are talking up this ROM, could someone please explain it to me because I need to be missing something.
The only thing that looked interesting was the UI features which do not work correctly. The Opaque Statusbar and Taskbar do not work. Randomly they will go back to solid black then never goes back to Opaque. The Tablet UI seems awesome but the Taskbar buttons are way to small. So I figured I would change the DPI but it makes the Statusbar clock huge and the notifications area pop-up moves half-way off the screen rendering it unusable.
So after those features are taking away there really is no custom / developer settings on the ROM so it's pretty much pointless.
A lot of people like a tablet UI but don't like the smaller DPI or visa/versa et cetera.
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A lot of people like a tablet UI but don't like the smaller DPI or visa/versa et cetera.
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The Tablet UI is awesome but very poorly implemented it seems.
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So after those features are taking away there really is no custom / developer settings on the ROM so it's pretty much pointless.
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I came from AOKP milestone 1 to PA 2.99.5 and while I like the 4.2 I'm thinking it might be time to go back to AOKP. I thought the Phablet UI was interesting but when I tried it... it didn't work correctly. I do like the per-app customization but I'd rather customize other areas of the phone with my time. Add I miss my integrated weather on the lockscreen.
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I came from AOKP milestone 1 to PA 2.99.5 and while I like the 4.2 I'm thinking it might be time to go back to AOKP. I thought the Phablet UI was interesting but when I tried it... it didn't work correctly. I do like the per-app customization but I'd rather customize other areas of the phone with my time. Add I miss my integrated weather on the lockscreen.
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You are pretty much in the same boat am I. I was just hoping something happened during my install of Paranoid and that's why it wasn't working or features were missing or something. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this ROM is defiantly lacking.
I am staying hopeful though. Once they get this ROM out of beta maybe Tablet UI will be working, and they will include some basic customization.
I do not see any problems with PA 2.99.5 whatsoever.. It works perfectly fine..smooth, good battery life, no lags, everything works as it should.. Once again, it is a matter of preference.. You putting up this thread was a matter of preference.. But once again, it is advisable that you do not complain by making a new thread.. Just post in the PA thread.. Molesarecoming is always open to constructive criticism..Once again, the word is "constructive criticism" the diversity of ROMs in the Galaxy Nexus community is what makes many stick with the nexus. so before bashing other ROMs, please just remember you not liking it, doesnt mean it's the same for others. If you hate it so much twitter it or fb it or something. >.<
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I do not see any problems with PA 2.99.5 whatsoever.. It works perfectly fine..smooth, good battery life, no lags, everything works as it should.. Once again, it is a matter of preference.. You putting up this thread was a matter of preference.. But once again, it is advisable that you do not complain by making a new thread.. Just post in the PA thread.. Molesarecoming is always open to constructive criticism..Once again, the word is "constructive criticism" the diversity of ROMs in the Galaxy Nexus community is what makes many stick with the nexus. so before bashing other ROMs, please just remember you not liking it, doesnt mean it's the same for others. If you hate it so much twitter it or fb it or something. >.<
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I'm not bashing anyone work at all, honestly I just wanted to know if I was missing something from the ROM since so many seem to use it. I have used it for 2 days now and none of the UI tweaks are functional, or do not work properly or are just way to small with no functional way to increase size. But the ROM is smooth and quick with insane boot speed.
Here is info on PA 2.99+ in a nutshell. First and foremost, you all downtalking tabletui need to realize that it does not actually exist in android 4.2, the paranoidandroid team found it deactivated by google in the code for 4.2 and they spent their time making it available again, it is in no way a finished product, if you want to see it work good then download a version of PA with an android 4.1x base ( i.e. PA 2.54 or before). Now onto people that cannot see the big deal, well anyone that tried the pre 4.2 PA knows that there is more customization available in PA than any other rom put together. Now PA 2.99+ are all AOSP based instead of CM based so they basically are building this rom from scratch to improve speed, performance and battery life for everyone, this means that a lot is not even integrated back into the rom yet. Simply trying out the newest PA will not give you a feel for why it is hands down the best rom out there. As for transparency, that only works on the homescreen and in order to properly utilize it you must A. be using a compatible launcher which has the homescreen backgrounds drawn correctly ( i.e. Apex, Stock or Holo etc, NOVA does not work) B. Choose a correct transparent hexcode or slide the transparency bar to where you would like it for that said Launcher in the "apps" section of paranoid preferences. I am on 2.99 Beta 5 and have full transparency with no issues that you speak of (Photo included as proof), in fact, Beta 5 has added almost everything I want back into the rom and fully functional, I can hardly wait for v3.0, seriously, I cannot see ever using another rom after using paranoidandroid, it just has the edge on everything else out there. AOKP and CM have nothing on it especially when it's at 100% again, which will be in the next couple weeks at the rate it's awesome devs work at!
tabUI is not existant in 4.2, what you see right now is raw honeycomb. if you want to see how good it was install 2.54, thats still based on 4.1. but right now i got to make my hands dirty with this. i know that on xda most people do not understand the difference between developing and kanging, and they wonder "why's this rom slower than others" but someones gotta do the dirty work and im okay if crackflashers avoid ours. they avoid cm for the same reason.
as for hybrid engine, i dont think you have understood it yet. it works flawless and it gives you more customization than all roms on xda combined, IF you can handle it. yes, you are able to make a button pink in this and that rom, but hybrid can transform thousands of apps and components to the better, with practical implications that are unheard of. the apps that are running on your huge 720p screen were not optimized for it, they're in the same layout that applies to pocketwatches or stone age miniature phones like the htc wildfire.
as for opacity, no app, obviously, draws underneath the bars - why would it. the launcher can do it, but again - not all do. nova has even a bug that offsets the wallpapers which leaves a black gap. our launcher works, apex works, holo works and perhaps a bunch of others. no rom does it differently, simply because its impossible.
the real difference is that we are producing features that push androids boundaries, we are sick of a homogen rom culture that hasnt really moved one inch for a couple of years now. all these roms are the same, do you realize that? kanging has produced one grey mass and nothing stands out. when we are done with our beta we will of course bring in all the essential features aswell, but new features have greater priority. and these blow everthing related to it clean out of the water.
compare build.prop hacks with hybrid engine, its like night and day. this is quite possibly the biggest rom scene improvement android has ever had.
compare rom scene color tweaks with per-app-color, its like night and day. normal roms are static, they give you one color and thats that. our colors shift from app to app.
compare extended desktop (which also came from us) with per-app-fullscreen
compare our recents with clearall implementations,
we had the most versatile toggles on android in 4.1 (right now we're implementing a new panel which will come in beta6)
etc.
but you got to understand that this stuff takes alot of time. i know i could just rename an open source rom, call myself "founder," post in 30 device forums and make craploads of money here on xda, but i chose not to and im happy i found a few guys that think in the same way. im content with the few people that use PA and the support i get from those, i dont see myself competing with any other rom for that matter. i dont feel like i have to stop all my work now just because this and that rom has a minor option that we dont have at the moment.
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tabUI is not existant in 4.2, what you see right now is raw honeycomb. if you want to see how good it was install 2.54, thats still based on 4.1. but right now i got to make my hands dirty with this. i know that on xda most people do not understand the difference between developing and kanging, and they wonder "why's this rom slower than others" but someones gotta do the dirty work and im okay if crackflashers avoid ours. they avoid cm for the same reason.
as for hybrid engine, i dont think you have understood it yet. it works flawless and it gives you more customization than all roms on xda combined, IF you can handle it. yes, you are able to make a button pink in this and that rom, but hybrid can transform thousands of apps and components to the better, with practical implications that are unheard of. the apps that are running on your huge 720p screen were not optimized for it, they're in the same layout that applies to pocketwatches or stone age miniature phones like the htc wildfire.
as for opacity, no app, obviously, draws underneath the bars - why would it. the launcher can do it, but again - not all do. nova has even a bug that offsets the wallpapers which leaves a black gap. our launcher works, apex works, holo works and perhaps a bunch of others. no rom does it differently, simply because its impossible.
the real difference is that we are producing features that push androids boundaries, we are sick of a homogen rom culture that hasnt really moved one inch for a couple of years now. all these roms are the same, do you realize that? kanging has produced one grey mass and nothing stands out. when we are done with our beta we will of course bring in all the essential features aswell, but new features have greater priority. and these blow everthing related to it clean out of the water.
compare build.prop hacks with hybrid engine, its like night and day. this is quite possibly the biggest rom scene improvement android has ever had.
compare rom scene color tweaks with per-app-color, its like night and day. normal roms are static, they give you one color and thats that. our colors shift from app to app.
compare extended desktop (which also came from us) with per-app-fullscreen
compare our recents with clearall implementations,
we had the most versatile toggles on android in 4.1 (right now we're implementing a new panel which will come in beta6)
etc.
but you got to understand that this stuff takes alot of time. i know i could just rename an open source rom, call myself "founder," post in 30 device forums and make craploads of money here on xda, but i chose not to and im happy i found a few guys that think in the same way. im content with the few people that use PA and the support i get from those, i dont see myself competing with any other rom for that matter. i dont feel like i have to stop all my work now just because this and that rom has a minor option that we dont have at the moment.
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Wonderfully said.
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I just flashed to this rom yesterday and really like it so far. I am interested in flashing to the newest 2.99 version. Where I can get the correct download for my phone, and do I need to update my recovery and if so, where do I get the link for that?
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btvolta said:
I just flashed to this rom yesterday and really like it so far. I am interested in flashing to the newest 2.99 version. Where I can get the correct download for my phone, and do I need to update my recovery and if so, where do I get the link for that?
Thanks
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I think the new 4.2 based PA roms might only be available for the Nexus series phones and tablets currently since the developers have started over building it from the ground up using AOSP source instead of CyanogenMod. I am not certain if the code is out there for other devs to build on their particular devices yet though.
Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
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Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
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Yep, that i why i use cm. I would barely use touchwiz features and they would lag a lot when i did so i stopped using them. I changed to cm and i have never looked back. The only thing is that GPU is not optimized optimized at the moment so some things show graphical glitches and stuff. Don't know i that is going to get fixed soon, or ever for that matter. I use this tablet as a netflix-notebook machine and it works just fine.
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Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
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There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
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Pazzu510 said:
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
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So pen presure sensitivity is not implied in such custom ROMS as it is in Touchwiz?
Pen accurate location detección on and over screen, tilt sensitivity and preassure sensitivity ranging from 1 to 0 are hardware-driver based. If the ROM got the drivers and your machine has the digitizer functioning correctly, it is going to work as well as it is intended to. Furthermore, your ROM could or could not implement OS-wide functions to make a better and seamless experience for you and complementing apps. And last but not least, your ROM(like touchwiz) could add unique apps to give a better or worse experience.
TL;DR: You can have a working spen without touchwiz.
Orion116 said:
There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
LiquidSmooth maintainer for d2usc/vzw & p600
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The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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arbit12 said:
The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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I despise xposed?
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Based on Android 5.1.1 AOSP (What is AOSP?), Tesla ROM by Team Validus brings you years of experience and solid open source development to their latest Tesla ROM. *Tesla ROM shares a lot of roots with Slim ROMs and it comes with stuff like Slim launcher (which I really love) along with full floating multi-window support (enable Slim Recents in Settings).
As far as customization, you will be able to customize your phone easily through the Tesla Coil menu that includes tweaks for your quick settings, status bar, navigation bar (hardware/soft buttons, PIE Control, Power menu), recents button, and much much more.
Of course, best part about Tesla ROM is that it comes with support for overclocking out of the box (I recommend 2.726Ghz) via its custom kernel. *I was able to overclock it find to 2.726Ghz for many hours no problem and even ran a bunch of Antutu tests on it. *If you want to get your Note 3 to run just as fast as Note 4, this may be the closest solution without buying a new phone.
Overall, this is an excellent AOSP ROM that will convert your aging Note 3 into a Nexus beast with lots of customization and overclocking to the fullest so definitely give it a go and let me know what you think!
ROM
Don't know why it takes a long time to boot up might be a bug let me know how long does it take to boot up
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I'm a member of Team Validus and you do not have permission to post Tesla, close this thread.
@TonyStark
is it possible to close this thread and remove download link please? this release not been approved by us, thanks by advance.
@karandpr dude's at it again
Alx31 said:
@TonyStark
is it possible to close this thread and remove download link please? this release not been approved by us, thanks by advance.
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It will be dealt with.
TonyStark said:
It will be dealt with.
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Thank you sir
seeing this means its not the first time on top of that... http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/brokenos-android-m-t3290696
These are on the international thread aren't they?
DO NOT post any work here without permission of the original developer(s).
Period.
Thread closed.