[Q] What is lost on a non-Samsung based ROM? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I used to install and tweak a new ROM almost every other week on my OG Evo 4G. Since I got a Verizon Galaxy Note 2, I've just kept it to Nova Launcher as my only "hack". I was looking at rooting and trying out some ROMs but I was wondering what functionality I would lose if I go with non-Samsung based ROMs like MIUI or AOKP (or whatever the latest fashion is).
Pen?
Pen hover cursor?
Multi-app functionality?
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You would lose all the touchwiz apps such as snote, smart rotation and smart stayon, Hover scroll and info, annoying touchwiz sounds and notifications, FM radio app, the ugly tw ui, and the excellent battery life.
With custom Aosp roms you would get 70percent of the battery life compared to touchwiz Rom, additional and easy modifications to the UI, faster and more fluid overall performance. The hover icon of the Spen can be enabled but you wouldn't get the same feedback when hovering over items in screen, as for the radio app you'll need to install 3rd party app such as Spirit Radio. These are just the few stuff you would gain I suggest you try it out.
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Awesome thanks. I hardly use any S-Apps so that's not a big deal. Also, I charge every night but get 2 days worth of charge so battery life is fine by me. My big thing is when I'm doing a quick remote desktop connection for my job, I like to use the S-Pen to better hit small buttons and links on the screen. As long as that functionality is there (I know it's dependent on the ROM developer/port) I'm good to go.

siege911 said:
Awesome thanks. I hardly use any S-Apps so that's not a big deal. Also, I charge every night but get 2 days worth of charge so battery life is fine by me. My big thing is when I'm doing a quick remote desktop connection for my job, I like to use the S-Pen to better hit small buttons and links on the screen. As long as that functionality is there (I know it's dependent on the ROM developer/port) I'm good to go.
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Almost every aosp rom I've tried has the hover feature built in. I would suggest you try out Carbon Rom as its very stable and packed with a lot of neat features.
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siege911 said:
I used to install and tweak a new ROM almost every other week on my OG Evo 4G. Since I got a Verizon Galaxy Note 2, I've just kept it to Nova Launcher as my only "hack". I was looking at rooting and trying out some ROMs but I was wondering what functionality I would lose if I go with non-Samsung based ROMs like MIUI or AOKP (or whatever the latest fashion is).
Pen?
Pen hover cursor?
Multi-app functionality?
Etc...
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Your question has the answer
Pen?
Pen hover cursor?
Multi-app functionality?
Etc...
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[Q] most stable ROM?

Sorry for being retarded, but I can't find anything about multi window feature in custom ROMs long feature list. I hate those useless feature with plenty of S, so I am looking for a vanilla ROM with:
1. Multi window feature
2. Change display mode from standard to natural,
3. S-Note
That is all. I don't need any fancy colorize or anything like samsung accounts, or smartstay, etc. Only a fast and stable phone to work with.
As for S-Note, if I can get its replacement so that I can write anything pretty quick, I can live with that.
Any suggestion which ROM does that? Or every ROM basically has those options without mention it?
Thank you
prd00 said:
Sorry for being retarded, but I can't find anything about multi window feature in custom ROMs long feature list. I hate those useless feature with plenty of S, so I am looking for a vanilla ROM with:
1. Multi window feature
2. Change display mode from standard to natural,
3. S-Note
That is all. I don't need any fancy colorize or anything. Only a fast and stable phone to work with.
Any suggestion which ROM does that? Or every ROM basically has those options without mention it?
Thank you
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I don't think you can get Vanilla ROM with TW features. But you can get Vanilla "look". May this is the ROM you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...s.com/showthread.php?t=2134099&highlight=aosp
As for bloatware by samsung, you can easily delete them from system apps. That's one of the benefits of rooting your phone.
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I don't think you can get Vanilla ROM with TW features. But you can get Vanilla "look". May this is the ROM you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...s.com/showthread.php?t=2134099&highlight=aosp
As for bloatware by samsung, you can easily delete them from system apps. That's one of the benefits of rooting your phone.
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Thanks.. I will take a look at it.
What I meant was a lean ROM, that doesn't useless feature packed. I don't want fancy features like SmartStay or something like that, but I need that multiwindow and S-Note, or if I can get SNote replacement. Something that I can write pretty quick when I need to.
prd00 said:
Thanks.. I will take a look at it.
What I meant was a lean ROM, that doesn't useless feature packed. I don't want fancy features like SmartStay or something like that, but I need that multiwindow and S-Note, or if I can get SNote replacement. Something that I can write pretty quick when I need to.
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If that's the case, try a ROM with floating multi window, I haven't tried one though. Awesome Notes HD is a great app. You can pin in on your notification drawer to get quick access to it. I don't use S-Note for most of my notes, its slow, if not laggy.
I use Android Revolution. Looks like the stock Samsung ROM, only it has a lot of bloat removed, and is quicker.
Phoenix ROM
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prd00 said:
Sorry for being retarded, but I can't find anything about multi window feature in custom ROMs long feature list. I hate those useless feature with plenty of S, so I am looking for a vanilla ROM with:
1. Multi window feature
2. Change display mode from standard to natural,
3. S-Note
That is all. I don't need any fancy colorize or anything like samsung accounts, or smartstay, etc. Only a fast and stable phone to work with.
As for S-Note, if I can get its replacement so that I can write anything pretty quick, I can live with that.
Any suggestion which ROM does that? Or every ROM basically has those options without mention it?
Thank you
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Multiwindow feature and S Note are both dependent on touchwiz frameworks. At the moment it is next to impossible to get them on AOSP/CM based roms. Also there are no other alternatives that are as good as Multiwindow at the moment, floating window apps dont even come close and are very limited. My suggestion to you is to download one of these sammy based roms particularly ARHD and use titanium backup app to freeze all the unwanted S apps.
Install android revolution rom... its fast and with out bloatware. U can top it up with simplistic framework if needed
There are too many roms and you will really get confused. Try one and see whats missing and find that one in another rom and install it.:good:
Alliance rom v3. Very polished, average of 30 of usage with 6 hours of screen time.
T.G.A said:
Install android revolution rom... its fast and with out bloatware. U can top it up with simplistic framework if needed
There are too many roms and you will really get confused. Try one and see whats missing and find that one in another rom and install it.:good:
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LOL.. that's the problem. I've found too many ROMs, some claims it's stable, but other claims that it is not. I am looking a stable one, and I am not that fans of features and gimmicks. I don't even use sammy's keyboard. I can't part with swiftkey. I also have my own personal favorite apps from contacts, sms, radio, and many things, and I prefer to use those instead of bundled ones.
praveen22 said:
If that's the case, try a ROM with floating multi window, I haven't tried one though. Awesome Notes HD is a great app. You can pin in on your notification drawer to get quick access to it. I don't use S-Note for most of my notes, its slow, if not laggy.
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LOL.. ok.. SNote is dead.. I'll freeze that. I know awesome note, but AFAIK, there was no android version. Thanks for the pointer.
bushako said:
Multiwindow feature and S Note are both dependent on touchwiz frameworks. At the moment it is next to impossible to get them on AOSP/CM based roms. Also there are no other alternatives that are as good as Multiwindow at the moment, floating window apps dont even come close and are very limited. My suggestion to you is to download one of these sammy based roms particularly ARHD and use titanium backup app to freeze all the unwanted S apps.
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I haven't tried floating window yet.. but I'll try Android Revolution. Last time I freezed unused apps from sammy's stock rom, mine was plagued with too many FC. LOL. Perhaps I freezed too much.
Is Android Revolution stable?
xartic12 said:
Alliance rom v3. Very polished, average of 30 of usage with 6 hours of screen time.
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Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
McLaren__F1 said:
Phoenix ROM
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Same question, is it stable?
Menchelke said:
I use Android Revolution. Looks like the stock Samsung ROM, only it has a lot of bloat removed, and is quicker.
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Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
prd00 said:
LOL.. that's the problem. I've found too many ROMs, some claims it's stable, but other claims that it is not. I am looking a stable one, and I am not that fans of features and gimmicks. I don't even use sammy's keyboard. I can't part with swiftkey. I also have my own personal favorite apps from contacts, sms, radio, and many things, and I prefer to use those instead of bundled ones.
LOL.. ok.. SNote is dead.. I'll freeze that. I know awesome note, but AFAIK, there was no android version. Thanks for the pointer.
I haven't tried floating window yet.. but I'll try Android Revolution. Last time I freezed unused apps from sammy's stock rom, mine was plagued with too many FC. LOL. Perhaps I freezed too much.
Is Android Revolution stable?
Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
Same question, is it stable?
Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
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LOL... You are obsessed with stability. No one can satisfy your needs. It will be best if you can give us a new stable rom... No offence meant
Even i have tried so many roms before. Now i dont do that. I just prioritize as what i want in a rom. For me, stock sammy features were must. So ARHD suited me most. Then removed bloatware by rom cleaner so that i have more memory. Simplistic framework if you want to change certain things. Thats it. For me,my phone should not lag,should take what ever i throw at it,give decent battery. I got it with ARHD.
And always either do what majority follow cuz of feedback or experiment on your own. :good:
T.G.A said:
LOL... You are obsessed with stability. No one can satisfy your needs. It will be best if you can give us a new stable rom... No offence meant
Even i have tried so many roms before. Now i dont do that. I just prioritize as what i want in a rom. For me, stock sammy features were must. So ARHD suited me most. Then removed bloatware by rom cleaner so that i have more memory. Simplistic framework if you want to change certain things. Thats it. For me,my phone should not lag,should take what ever i throw at it,give decent battery. I got it with ARHD.
And always either do what majority follow cuz of feedback or experiment on your own. :good:
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Yeah, because I work a lot with my phone, using Citrix Receiver, ssh, and remote desktop everyday there, and can't do a lot of experiments. So, yeah.. that multiwindow is VERY important since remote desktop would disconnect when I switch, and I am trying to narrow down my candidate ROM list.
I can accept once a month FC, but not a constant nagging problem with pretty GUI like cMIUI or RR. Granted, some people prefer lot of features, with newest ROM, sacrificing stability, but that's not me. And my S2 was very stable with vanilla ROM, and I like stock Nexus very much. The reason why I was starting from there. Also there are lots of ROM there with different focus. Stable ones, featured ones, fast ones, pretty ones, etc.
Thanks for info. I have downloaded ARHD, and will flash it tonight.. any other stable ROM I should consider?
ARHD ROM is pretty stable minus user error. I think there's a list somewhere in these threads showing you what you can and what you shouldn't freeze. I honestly don't find freezing stock apps all that useful. For one they don't give you usable space and second they don't keep running in the background and seldom wake the phone. I'd say ArHD+ Simplistics+ Nova Launcher+ Perseus kernel and you're good to go.
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praveen22 said:
If that's the case, try a ROM with floating multi window, I haven't tried one though. Awesome Notes HD is a great app. You can pin in on your notification drawer to get quick access to it. I don't use S-Note for most of my notes, its slow, if not laggy.
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Downloaded awesome note, but it's hard to write something. I need to type with awesome note. But I'll keep both S-Note and aNote.
bushako said:
ARHD ROM is pretty stable minus user error. I think there's a list somewhere in these threads showing you what you can and what you shouldn't freeze. I honestly don't find freezing stock apps all that useful. For one they don't give you usable space and second they don't keep running in the background and seldom wake the phone. I'd say ArHD+ Simplistics+ Nova Launcher+ Perseus kernel and you're good to go.
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I don't like it when those useless apps keep asking me to create a backup account, nor any app that always asking me to register, notif me a promo, ask me to leave comment, rate, or do something while it is in the background. I don't use them, but they keep annoy me. I hate that. I don't care too much for waking the phone, as my phone rarely sleep while I am awake. I also keeps 3 battery with me. As I said, I use my phone for work, and those useless notif always distracts me.
I tried Omega, AOKP, CyanogenMod and a couple of more on my old S2, my wifes S3 and my Note2.
For some reason I always fall back on WanamLite.
The most satisfying rom for me regarding stability, (stock camera), quick no wipe upgrades.
Never had issues, just works as it should.
Only missing a kitchen app like omegas kitchen but for Wanam.
So 1st place WanamLite
2nd Omega
3rd AOKP
All above w Nova Launcher
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prd00 said:
Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
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I used to get so many FC om touchwiz, at least 4 on a daily basis. With Alliance v3 I've been getting a bit better battery life as well as smoothness. No FC and I never I'll wiped from v1 to v2 nor v2 to v3 and it's running incredibly stable.
AR HD no fuzz, all touchwiz
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prd00 said:
LOL.. that's the problem. I've found too many ROMs, some claims it's stable, but other claims that it is not. I am looking a stable one, and I am not that fans of features and gimmicks. I don't even use sammy's keyboard. I can't part with swiftkey. I also have my own personal favorite apps from contacts, sms, radio, and many things, and I prefer to use those instead of bundled ones.
LOL.. ok.. SNote is dead.. I'll freeze that. I know awesome note, but AFAIK, there was no android version. Thanks for the pointer.
I haven't tried floating window yet.. but I'll try Android Revolution. Last time I freezed unused apps from sammy's stock rom, mine was plagued with too many FC. LOL. Perhaps I freezed too much.
Is Android Revolution stable?
Is it stable? everything runs fine? No FC?
Same question, is it stable?
Seems you are third person to recommend Android Revolution HD, so I'll give it a try.
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It is a misconception. It is not much faster than the stock rom... I am currently using Android revolution hd... But if you have to install then arh is the safest option though but quite useless..

[Q] New to Galaxy Note II

So I am switching from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note II and I'm curious about a few factors.
First question: what is the developer name of the Verizon Galaxy Note II? Nvm. Found out it is t0lte
Second Question: As for using the s-pen and 'two apps on the same screen' and any other features that are note specific do I have to use a touchwiz rom? or can I use another rom and have the features included
You have to use touchwiz based ROM to get multiwindow features. And if you want floating multiwindows (like as in real PC like windows where you can open numerous windows w/ minimize/close button and everything) try out Moon Rom or X-Note which has the feature pre-installed. Or flash the X Note mod over touchwiz based ROM.
Hello! I know where you're coming from.
If you are fond of the S-pen and you want the full experience with that then you have to probably stay with Touchwiz. I tried out Touchwiz too for some while and it's not bad and compared to non-Touchwiz roms the camera is the best and in most cases so is the battery. Not to forget if you really want to have all the Samsungs apps then there's no way around using TW.
Although, seeing you come from a Nexus, I can imagine you miss the AOSP feeling. After some experimenting with roms and kernels I mostly got disappointed about the batterylife in AOSP roms and about the lack of some decent S-pen functionality (and recognition when you pull it out / put it back in).
After some research I finally found (my personal) perfect combination. AOSP, good batterylife (like TW), and S-pen functionality combined with it.
My setup is using thor's rom with thor's kernel, unfortunately (for reasons I will not elaborate on, if you really want to know you can use search) his topics are banned from XDA, however you can find his work here. I highly recommend it, it's the best AOSP experience you can get on your Note 2. Rock stable, extremely fast (feels even faster and smoother than a Nexus 4), everything works, and good batterylife.
Another AOSP rom I can recommend is "CarbonRom", extremely smooth too and the optional carbon theme is really nice, I'd still recommend using thor's kernel with it for the provided speed and battery life.
As for the S-pen functionality on AOSP I recommend you would install "CM S Pen Add-on" for detection and "Note Buddy" to choose what app you want to launch when you pull out your S-pen (I recommend Papyrus).
If for some reason you still want to stick with a TW rom I would recommend ARHD (closest to stock and very stable) or, as stated above already, Moon Rom if you want some nice extra features like multiple floating windows.. For TW roms I recommend Adam Kernel.
This should keep you busy already for a while, let us know what you tested and how you find it
Thanks to both of you. I should have plenty to test and play around with now. Ill try out a few different things and see what I like. A friend of mine recommended the beans rom. So i think I will try that out first. but its good to know that i need touchwiz to get the note2 exclusive things.
Thanks guys! :good:
especially wtr_dhd. That was very detailed =)
Im looking forward to when my note arrives
Oh and one last question what button combination reboots me into recovery?
Znomon said:
Oh and one last question what button combination reboots me into recovery?
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Not really a direct answer to your question, but this way works always and 100%, install Rom Manager from Play (needless to say you need to be rooted), and via there you can reboot into recovery, it will even suggest you to install the latest CWM if you like (which I highly recommend)!
Znomon said:
Oh and one last question what button combination reboots me into recovery?
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Volume up + home button + power button.
Welcome to the Note 2, as a former gnex user I can safely say that you will love this device.
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dr.m0x said:
Volume up + home button + power button.
Welcome to the Note 2, as a former gnex user I can safely say that you will love this device.
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Spent a full day figuring that out... Thought the volume down + home + power was the one.
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[Q] minimal Rom with S-Pen functions

Hi,
currently im running the stock 4.1.2 german Telekom Rom my N7105 came with because i thought it would last longer than the 4.4 nordic Rom i was using before, but with stock kernel and power savings mode i find it quite unusable (constantly lagging)
I have never used a non stock rom on my n7105 and quite frankly i am a bit lost.
Does anyone know a minimal rom (most Samsung apps removed, i only use S Note, a minimum of google apps, basically just the ones you need to run the play store) with a decent Battery Life? If there is no such rom which Stock KitKat Rom runs the smoothest?
From the looks of it DN3 would be way too bloated for me (if im mistaken please tell me) and as far as i can see the only alternative would be stock roms, all other seem to be based on cyanogenmod and co so there is no S-Pen functionality
also only Stock and Shift Kernel would be ok for me to use, because as much as i like the agni kernel i need to connect to a IPSec/PSK VPN which agni simply wont let me do. (or are there other kernels out there for the n7105?)
peterhugelberg said:
Hi,
currently im running the stock 4.1.2 german Telekom Rom my N7105 came with because i thought it would last longer than the 4.4 nordic Rom i was using before, but with stock kernel and power savings mode i find it quite unusable (constantly lagging)
I have never used a non stock rom on my n7105 and quite frankly i am a bit lost.
Does anyone know a minimal rom (most Samsung apps removed, i only use S Note, a minimum of google apps, basically just the ones you need to run the play store) with a decent Battery Life? If there is no such rom which Stock KitKat Rom runs the smoothest?
From the looks of it DN3 would be way too bloated for me (if im mistaken please tell me) and as far as i can see the only alternative would be stock roms, all other seem to be based on cyanogenmod and co so there is no S-Pen functionality
also only Stock and Shift Kernel would be ok for me to use, because as much as i like the agni kernel i need to connect to a IPSec/PSK VPN which agni simply wont let me do. (or are there other kernels out there for the n7105?)
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Slimkat is fully debloated ROM. Smooth on performance and battery life.
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I thought slimkat is based on aosp and therefore lacks the s-pen functionality, im using my note exclusively with the s-pen (just not with the Samsung apps, except s-note)
Will the s-pen work in slimkat, for navigation, a note app (doesn't have to be s-note) and gmd s-pen control
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peterhugelberg said:
I thought slimkat is based on aosp and therefore lacks the s-pen functionality, im using my note exclusively with the s-pen (just not with the Samsung apps, except s-note)
Will the s-pen work in slimkat, for navigation, a note app (doesn't have to be s-note) and gmd s-pen control
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I think it should work. Evernote etc.
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peterhugelberg said:
Hi,
From the looks of it DN3 would be way too bloated for me (if im mistaken please tell me) and as far as i can see the only alternative would be stock roms, all other seem to be based on
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You definitely want a TouchWiz-based ROM to get full benefits of the S Pen. Otherwise, it's just a cool-looking stylus that's sharper than a finger tip.
BUT, TouchWiz-based ROMs are filled with junk most of us will never use.
You can't have it both ways.
If you want full use of the S Pen, use the latest excellent DN3 and remove as many apps as possible to slim things down. That's what I'd do. I had the DN3 until the DN4 came out and it has excellent battery life.
Otherwise, Slimkat definitely sounds like a good lightweight choice.
I finally had some time yesterday and flashed Slimkat, will test it for a week or so and see how the battery holds up.
Yeah DN3 or complete Stock rom, which i would then debloat myself was plan b. (or better: still is plan b, depending on how much i like slimkat)
But i actually dont think i need more S-Pen Features than i have with SlimKat. Right now im trying Papyrus for Notes and GMD S-Pen Control for Gestures which is pretty much the same functionality i used before (well airview for information and scrolling would be neat too, are there any third party apps which enable this?)
I also like JusWrite (stylus edition) for quick note reminders, and SignEasy to sign documents. You can also try everything from MyScript.
I'm running SlimWiz. It's the best ROM with Note 3 S-Pen features and S5 stuff. The phone runs very very smooth.
ludovicianul said:
I'm running SlimWiz. It's the best ROM with Note 3 S-Pen features and S5 stuff. The phone runs very very smooth.
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Awesome, never heard of it. Looks like a great choice.
ludovicianul said:
I'm running SlimWiz. It's the best ROM with Note 3 S-Pen features and S5 stuff. The phone runs very very smooth.
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mmh is it n7100 only? I cant find a n7105 Version
peterhugelberg said:
mmh is it n7100 only? I cant find a n7105 Version
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Yes - N7100 only: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-4-2-slimwiz-sl1-trimmed-498mb-n3-s5-t2846916

Looking for ROM Recommendations based on my use profile.

Hey All!
So my Nexus 4 took a big spill the other day that put it out of commission and i had to go to T-Mobile to get another phone. Last month i looked into the phones that were on the market (because my friend lost hers and i was helping her pick out a phone) and the choices we came down to were Nexus 6, Galaxy S5, and LG G3. Well She ended up finding her old phone but from that research i knew which one i wanted to get. I really like the nexus series but 6 inches is a deal-breaker for me, my biggest complaint about this LG G3 is that its too big...
In any case, i have had the phone for about one day but i can't stand the LG ROM on it. It feels slow (even with 3GB of RAM in this thing!) and I really don't like all the bloat ware the Tmobile put on my phone.
I like the stock android experience and want to find one that comes pretty close to it (although extra features are always a plus). Here is what I prioritize in my phone (starting with highest priority and going down:
-Stable, First and foremost i cannot stand a crash, i hate hate hate it. I need the ROM to work just as well (if not better) than the stock android ROMs on the nexus line
-Working Hardware, i take a bunch of pictures and am constantly using mobile data (4G LTE) so i need all these to work well
-Battery Life, I play games a lot on my phone during the day when waiting around for the bus or whatever, i like to have my battery last as long as possible so i don't need to break out a portable charger.
-Responsive, i don't need to have a ton of crazy amazing features, but i do want it to be responsive, nothing peeves me more than having input lag when texting someone.
-Customizability, i really do enjoy the fact that i can change the home buttons on that appear on the bottom of the screen on the LG G3 ROM, its a nice touch to be able to tap a button to get your notifications to pull down (especially on such a large phone), so customizability of small features like that go along way with me, small things like being able to see the day next to time i really love.
-Lastly i like to have my phone flat on my desk a lot and with the button on the back the best way to turn it on is the double tap, so if possible (but not necessary) i would like to retain that feature.
Some ROMs i have been looking at and read reviews but cant really decide which to try are Cyanogen Mod 12, Illusion, and PurpleDrake.
Based on my user profile (what is most important to me) which ROMs (can be one of the ones i listed or whatever one you think works best) would you recommend.
Also is flashing a custom kernel very popular on the LG G3? I know it was on the nexus 4 but is it also beneficial on this device?
Last, is there a good instruction on xda for rooting and unlocking the bootloader (and possibly flashing a custom recovery) for the LG G3 D851 (The specific one i have)?
Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
Itaintrite said:
Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
sudosilman said:
Thanks so much for your input! What is xposed? Is is an app that you install after flashing the ROM or is it something like GAPPS which your flash during installation of your ROM? Where can i find more information on what Xposed is and how it provides features?
Why do you say that my best bet is a stock-based ROM over an AOSP one?
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Basically, Xposed is a framework that allows you to install/remove codes (modules) on-the-fly. Easy to install. More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-faq-issues-t2735540
Stock-based over AOSP because of your preferences lol. They're generally more stable and let you take advantage of ALL of the G3's hardware.
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Do you know any specific problems that AOSP have with the G3 hardware over the Stock? I am really looking to get rid of bloatware and increase responsiveness and battery life. I just get this weird feeling like the stock ROM is slooooooow.
Also does the Xposed framework load down the phone at all? I feel with each module i install it would get progressively slower with all the stuff running in the background. Doesnt seem very lightweight after having the cloudyG3 installed i should have a ton of features (since its stock and not AOSP). seems like it would lag down it even more.
I'm just looking for a stable ROM with a decent set of features (i don't need anything too crazy) that is responsive (i feel with 3GB of RAM i shouldnt have to deal with lag anymore) and has a decent battery life (3000mAh is a lot, even with the large screen). What can you guys recommend based on that simply details?
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Your best bet is to get a stock-based ROM then install Xposed + some modules to customize it to your liking. A really good stock ROM is CloudyG3. It will give you all the stock features like IR remote, good camera app, double tap to wake, WiFi calling etc. I recommend getting a 3rd party launcher that allows you to set gestures. I use Nova Launcher and have "swipe down" open up the notification drawer. CM12 and other AOSP-based ROMs are probably smoother and faster but they will be more prone to crashing and lack stock features (though double tap to wake is in all).
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I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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sharpeyedman said:
I totally agree. Stock based +xposed over cm any day for stability.
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What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
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What about Battery life? I want to get at least 4-6 hours SOT. Is that possible with stock?
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i get about 4 hours sot i run stock and i used titanium backup to remove all the tmobile bloat and changed my startup and shut down logo since i run this on cricket which is now att.
i love att but will only use tmobile phones.

SM-P600 S-Pen and Lollipop question

Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
ElAguila said:
Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
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Yep, that i why i use cm. I would barely use touchwiz features and they would lag a lot when i did so i stopped using them. I changed to cm and i have never looked back. The only thing is that GPU is not optimized optimized at the moment so some things show graphical glitches and stuff. Don't know i that is going to get fixed soon, or ever for that matter. I use this tablet as a netflix-notebook machine and it works just fine.
ElAguila said:
Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
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There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
LiquidSmooth maintainer for d2usc/vzw & p600
Pazzu510 said:
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
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So pen presure sensitivity is not implied in such custom ROMS as it is in Touchwiz?
Pen accurate location detección on and over screen, tilt sensitivity and preassure sensitivity ranging from 1 to 0 are hardware-driver based. If the ROM got the drivers and your machine has the digitizer functioning correctly, it is going to work as well as it is intended to. Furthermore, your ROM could or could not implement OS-wide functions to make a better and seamless experience for you and complementing apps. And last but not least, your ROM(like touchwiz) could add unique apps to give a better or worse experience.
TL;DR: You can have a working spen without touchwiz.
Orion116 said:
There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
LiquidSmooth maintainer for d2usc/vzw & p600
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The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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arbit12 said:
The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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I despise xposed?
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