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[Q] Wi-fi and 4g on at same time

Hello,
Just bought the Galaxy Nexus CDMA version and have a question. Many people suggest turning off the 4G to conserve battery. If I'm on a Wi-Fi network for most of the day, is it necessary to turn off 4G? If Wi-Fi is on (and connected), is 4G still being used and draining the battery unnecessarily? I figured Wi-Fi would "trump" 4G.
Thanks in advance for your help.

The radio is still active and maintaining the signal will sap your juice. Think of it this way: when your phone is only on 4g and you're not using it, it still drains the battery even though you're not downloading files and whatnot.
I've flashed a new rom on days where I was just home and in wifi-range and forgotten to re-toggle 4g off, and found that my battery had drained all that much more than normal.

Thanks Joe for the reply..... IMHO, it doesn't make sense to me. I wonder why 4G is active (or even 3g for that matter) with a Wi-Fi connection? It makes sense to me when you are not on Wi-Fi because you need to have the data connection (4G) readily available for data. But if you already have a connection via Wi-Fi, why do you need another data connection (3G or 4G).
I did notice this though:
1. Wi-Fi is active (blue status bars at Wi-fi status and data connection status)
2. Turn off Wi-fi (Wi-Fi status dissapears as expected)
3. 4G status is blue for about a second or two.
4. 4G status turns grey for about a second or two.
5. 4G status turns back to blue.
If 3G/4G is truly active (with Wi-Fi Connection), I would assume that the status would never turn Grey for the second or two. In past experiences with other devices, when the status was grey, I couldn't get data connections.

When you turn on wifi, it disconnects you from the 3G or LTE network. You can check this from network status.
So no, you do not need to turn off LTE if you are on wifi all the time.

adrynalyne said:
When you turn on wifi, it disconnects you from the 3G or LTE network. You can check this from network status.
So no, you do not need to turn off LTE if you are on wifi all the time.
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Hmm well I see where it says disconnected, but I still get a signal reading and it says I am on LTE or eHRDP in the usual spot.
I understand about the radio being in a low-power state, but I was left with the impression, from my usage, that battery always seemed to drain that much more when I didn't toggle 4g off altogether. But it's been a while since I just wrote 4g off altogether so I'm going to test it again tonight when I have a chance to leave the phone undisturbed with wifi and 4g on.

JoeSyr said:
Hmm well I see where it says disconnected, but I still get a signal reading and it says I am on LTE or eHRDP in the usual spot.
I understand about the radio being in a low-power state, but I was left with the impression, from my usage, that battery always seemed to drain that much more when I didn't toggle 4g off altogether. But it's been a while since I just wrote 4g off altogether so I'm going to test it again tonight when I have a chance to leave the phone undisturbed with wifi and 4g on.
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You can never actually turn a radio off, so you will not see a battery life difference if you set it to cdma only and use 3G while on wifi.

When you turn on WiFi it doesnt disconnect your Data connection but your phone will know when WiFi is on to use WiFi instead of Data. The only way to save power is to manually turn it off. Just remember that when you do you cannot receive or send picture texts. There may be other things im not sure. Youll still know you recieved a picture text so just make sure you turn on your Data connection before downloading it. Otherwise you have to wait for another or send one of your own to download it.
Now I dont know the situation of your area for service but here we get great 3g coverage. It serves me well for surfing the net, using Google Navigation, just about everything but videos. So why waste the power for 4g? If I need it I can get a connection quick enough but I dont usually. I dunno, For what I need using 4G is like bringing a bazooka to a knife fight. Why? Id rather leave it in the trunk of my car close by just in case

IFLATLINEI said:
When you turn on WiFi it doesnt disconnect your Data connection but your phone will know when WiFi is on to use WiFi instead of Data. The only way to save power is to manually turn it off. Just remember that when you do you cannot receive or send picture texts. There may be other things im not sure. Youll still know you recieved a picture text so just make sure you turn on your Data connection before downloading it. Otherwise you have to wait for another or send one of your own to download it.
Now I dont know the situation of your area for service but here we get great 3g coverage. It serves me well for surfing the net, using Google Navigation, just about everything but videos. So why waste the power for 4g? If I need it I can get a connection quick enough but I dont usually. I dunno, For what I need using 4G is like bringing a bazooka to a knife fight. Why? Id rather leave it in the trunk of my car close by just in case
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It does turn off data when switching to wifi. Check your network status.
To be clear, I mean mobile data network when I say data.
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Thank you all for your help.
@adrynalyne -- Thanks for showing me the network status location. Didn't even notice that. You are indeed correct that it displays "disconnected" when on Wi-Fi.
@IFLATLINEI -- Regarding 3G service speeds.... in Manhattan, 3G is horribly slow. 4G is great. Even though I'm on Wi-Fi most of the the time at work, there are times when I step out for lunch and need 3G/4G. I find it somewhat cumbersome to flip back and forth from 3G to 4G..... The switching of networks seem to sometimes take up to a minute (or longer) to find the data network specified. That is why I would rather leave the phone in 4G mode when Wi-Fi is turned on.
@JoeSyr -- Let us know the results of your test. Once my phone/battery is broken in, I plan on doing the same... but I'm fairly confident that the results should be relatively close due to adrynalyne's comments.

IFLATLINEI said:
When you turn on WiFi it doesnt disconnect your Data connection but your phone will know when WiFi is on to use WiFi instead of Data. The only way to save power is to manually turn it off. Just remember that when you do you cannot receive or send picture texts. There may be other things im not sure. Youll still know you recieved a picture text so just make sure you turn on your Data connection before downloading it. Otherwise you have to wait for another or send one of your own to download it.
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It definitely does not keep data on when you're on WiFi. It specifically disconnects your data network. It makes no sense to keep both enabled at once.

I seen the first 3 posts saying the same thing. Obviously there is more to it than that right? If I have both wifi and data on how would I still receive a picture text? Since as I explained before. You cannot receive a picture text without data turned on. Again turning on wifi is not turning data off. The network status seems to be telling you it will just use wifi instead. If I'm wrong address my example with picture texts. Dont just direct me to Network Status again. We already established that on the first page of the thread.
To the O.P I didn't expect you to do what I do. Just an example of how I manage to get my phone through the day. If you don't have good 3g like we do then it makes no sense to save power with my method. So you can still just turn 4g when on wifi. But unless some one can clarify what actually happens to data when wifi is turned on then I would recommend doing it manually.

On other devices, it was handled by the incoming MMS for a split second switching to the mobile network. Now on the Nexus, the uaprof is generic and uses a google server, so I don't think it matters anymore. Or maybe it switches faster than I can see it. Would be interesting to logcat it. Either way, once the MMS is received, the mobile network disconnects. I just sent an MMS and watched my network status. It never changed.
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Lol. I'm not trying to be a pain about this. Its just weird. I would really like to believe that when I turn my wifi on data was actually turned off. If its true then I can stop toggling my data connection all the time.

IFLATLINEI said:
Lol. I'm not trying to be a pain about this. Its just weird. I would really like to believe that when I turn my wifi on data was actually turned off. If its true then I can stop toggling my data connection all the time.
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It effectively does. You're taking an extra completely unnecessary step by manually turning off your data when you're on WiFi.

Look at it like this. You are using more battery switching to 3g while on wifi because thats a few more seconds the soul sucking screen is on

Alright then. Settled. Thank you

Well quick update, I found that 4g vs 3g w/ wifi on came out to about the same in a single overnight test for each, as far as total battery drain goes. I couldn't stick to a completely standard testing format for timeframe and hours, but the difference was pretty negligible. 89% after 10.5 hours with 4g, 91% after just under 9 with 3g, slight differences in syncing apps grabbing some juice for either.
However, I did notice that there's an alarm coming from com.android.internal.telephony.gprs-data-stall that was waking my phone up a lot, and it did differ between the two tests. According to the people over in the better battery stats thread, this item indicates that the data connection was disrupted. The going theory there seems to be that there's a core ICS bug that's causing this to still fire when wifi is on. Apparently it's pretty common for them to get reports of it from ICS devices, but I only know as much as skimming the last few pages of that thread has told me.
For what it's worth, my gprs-data-stall count was 368 for 10.5 hours on 4g+wifi, and 89 for about 9 hours on 3g+wifi (although if this affects battery life, it's only on the order of .1% per hour according to my quick little tests). Seems like it could be due to either random interference or an ICS bug that meets different outcomes when using the 4g/3g radios. I imagine that if my phone lost and re-established a 4g data connection 368 times overnight I'd see a noticeable battery drain, so if this is a bug it might be pretty benign.
Perhaps if more people could start compiling BBS logs for wifi+data time we could get a better picture about whether there's a bug in the source that's causing the gprs-data-stall behavior.

IFLATLINEI said:
I seen the first 3 posts saying the same thing. Obviously there is more to it than that right? If I have both wifi and data on how would I still receive a picture text? Since as I explained before. You cannot receive a picture text without data turned on. Again turning on wifi is not turning data off. The network status seems to be telling you it will just use wifi instead. If I'm wrong address my example with picture texts. Dont just direct me to Network Status again. We already established that on the first page of the thread.
To the O.P I didn't expect you to do what I do. Just an example of how I manage to get my phone through the day. If you don't have good 3g like we do then it makes no sense to save power with my method. So you can still just turn 4g when on wifi. But unless some one can clarify what actually happens to data when wifi is turned on then I would recommend doing it manually.
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A picture text temporarily turns on 3g data, receives it, then shuts it off. All while keeping wifi on.
This happens to me all the time.

[Q] Anyone else have Wifi received calls drop after 1:26

Has anyone else noticed that received wifi calls drop after exactly 1 minute 26 seconds? Outbound calls don't seem to have the problem, only inbound. I thought I was crazy at first, but it seems others are experiencing the same behavior. If you Google "t-mobile galaxy note 3 1:26", the first result is a posting on the T-Mobile support site reporting exactly this problem. From that posting, it appears that this does not happen on T-Mo to T-Mo calls. So far, I can reproduce this problem 100% of the time and it is always exactly 1:26.
I have called into T-Mobile and started a trouble ticket and should hear back in a day or two, but I wanted to see if this is a universal problem with Note 3/T-Mo and the best place I could think of to check on that was XDA.
Please test when possible and respond if you are also experiencing this issue.
Thank you!

FYI note 3 users, WIFI signal is not stable in Note 3....

appan said:
FYI note 3 users, WIFI signal is not stable in Note 3....
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Agreed. I keep getting WiFi disconnects and a message pop up saying my WiFi connection is unstable. Wrong. My WiFi is fine and works on all my other devices just great. I have LTE at home and unlimited data so I don't even turn WiFi on anymore.

I'm not getting any messages about wifi being unstable. It's been working very well. It is only on received calls when in Wifi Calling mode. The calls drop after exactly 1:26, every time. The post on the T-Mobile support site has added 2-3 more people who are having the same problem. Can't seem to find a commonality among the the affected except that it is always 1:26, always on inbound wifi calling calls from non-T-Mobile numbers, and seems to only happen in this way on the T-Mobile Note 3.
If anyone could give it a test, I would appreciate it. Just call your Note 3 from a non-T-Mobile device while in Wifi calling mode and see how long it takes to drop the call (if it does at all).

txjmb said:
I'm not getting any messages about wifi being unstable. It's been working very well. It is only on received calls when in Wifi Calling mode. The calls drop after exactly 1:26, every time. The post on the T-Mobile support site has added 2-3 more people who are having the same problem. Can't seem to find a commonality among the the affected except that it is always 1:26, always on inbound wifi calling calls from non-T-Mobile numbers, and seems to only happen in this way on the T-Mobile Note 3.
If anyone could give it a test, I would appreciate it. Just call your Note 3 from a non-T-Mobile device while in Wifi calling mode and see how long it takes to drop the call (if it does at all).
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I just had this happen to me today at work. Three incoming calls from my wife, all dropped at 1:25, 1:26, 1:27.
I'm wondering if this is only on stock ROM's. I'm rooted and don't remember having this issue before rooting.
I wonder if a custom ROM will help... ;o) Not that I really need another reason to try one.

I also have the issue with the dropped wifi calls, I know its not my network as my S4 works perfectly

I noticed some wifi calling issues. I wasn't that it was dropping at a specific time though. I would dial the number and it would sit there doing nothing. It wasn't stock either. I was on MyRom. Strange. Wifi signal is great btw.

PolishDude said:
I also have the issue with the dropped wifi calls, I know its not my network as my S4 works perfectly
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I don't get many calls like that but now that you mention it (not to mention it just happened 5x in a row) I had it happen on mine and the gf's phone as well...
need this shiz fixed
link to T-mobile thread?
did you ever hear anything back?

My house has horrible signal so I rely on the wifi calling so yes this issue needs to be resolved asap

I am having dropped calls not only with wifi calling but also with regular calls.

Tmo rep rold me there is an update coming soon to address the wifi calling issues. Not sure if she was being truthful but that what she said.
N3 anticipating Tweaked perfection

I have this issue as well. Seems others have narrowed down its circumstances.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/55041

This is so frustrating & we have yet to get a fix.

I have the same issue expect my carrier is verizon.
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I have the same issue expect my carrier is verizon. View attachment 2348571
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I haven't had any issue with wifi connection, even when the call drops it stays connected, its just that it disconnects.
I've noticed frequent random disconnects on t-mobile to t-mobile wifi calling as well but not as easily time-able.

Any updates?
Anyone have an progress on this?
I have the same problem as everyone else. 1:26 every incoming call. Bam... dropped.
Very frustrating, especially with how reliable it was on the S4.
Anyway, hopefully we'll see a fix in the first T-Mobile update.
I've also subscribed to the T-Mobile thread, though I expect this thread to be my first answer...
Luke

Same here and another co worker with the note 3 is having the same issues, opened a support ticket with tmobile so lets see where it goes ...nowhere more than likely
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So after some testing im finding when using google voice number the calls will drop. When i get called on my tmobile number on either wifi or cell the call is solid, but if it comes through the google voice number it will drop every time.

[Q] Wifi Calling working but Off Under More Networks (Answered)

Hello,
I've found out that my wifi calling is being used even though I have it off in the settings of the phone. Although it's off I still can select the options under Connection Preferences: Wifi Perfered, Cellular Networkin Prefered and Never use Cell Network (not sure if that matters or not). I choose the 2nd option and noticed dropped calls around the outer edge of my wifi. But wifi calling is turned off. How do you permanently turn this feature off?
I do use wifi when I'm within my wifi area. But had no idea that wifi calling was still being used when set to off. Do I have to disable wifi all together?

Ok. I've found out that this is known issue doing more a search online. The only fix is to disable wifi altogether. There have been other suggestions but none of them fix it. I've heard that exchanging the sim chip that disables wifi calling might work but haven't heard anything consistent with that fix.
I'm just perplexed by this. This is a great phone yet whenever you enable wifi you enable wifi calling regardless if it's off. I just don't get how something like this would be considered a standard feature when other phones just don't do that by default. If I didn't stumble upon this information I would have never guessed that it was the main cause for my dropped calls.

Thanks about that update it could help others soon.

NP, I have to wonder if this is really a standard none controllable feature on the phone or if the carrier can disable it?. If wifi calling is controllable on the phone and you can turn it on or off jet remain on then I have to wonder what other external force is keeping it on when you turn it off?
Did the maker just simply forget to remove the ability to control wifi calling because turning it off simply doesn't work.
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Is this something that the carrier did
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Is this something with the sim chip
Another thing I've found that seems to be related to this. If you try to access your acct while Wifi is enabled it suppose to switch from wifi to 4G but it doesn't (and you can't access your account in tmo. while in wifi. Perhaps different software updates were used but it was seamless back then on a different phone.

This brings up another interesting observation. Once wifi is enabled you can't auto enable your 4g network when it's needed. IE: You can't review your acct for one. Is there a way to make sure that your phone has 4G LTE priority whenever wifi is enabled?

I don't know also how to prioritize the 4G LTE over wifi, good observation.

Lorettaa said:
I don't know also how to prioritize the 4G LTE over wifi, good observation.
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Update, I was able to use an old version of my account (which was used on an older phone) and was able to confirm that it is programed to disable wifi connection and activate the 4g services while using the my acct app without having to disable wifi manually. A message even popped up to tell you so. And once you exited the my acct app it would restore your wifi connection from 4g. So it is controlled via the program itself.
So it begs the question, why doesn't the newer version not do this? This now looks like 2 separate issues with wifi and wifi calling.

Verify if Wifi Calling is still enabled even though you have it disabled
I just found a way to verify if wifi calling is still enabled even though you have it disabled on the Note 3. Here is what you need to do.
1. Make sure that wifi calling is disabled
2. Make sure that wifi is already enabled and in use
3. Stand right next to your wifi router
4. Make a call
5. Listen to hear any wired sounding ringback (the sound you hear to let you know that a call is actually ringing the recipients phone).
6. If you do notice a wired sounding ringback complete the call and stay on the line for about 30 seconds or so.
7. Disable wifi while on the call.
8. Once disabled did your call drop?
This is what I did in order to verify if wifi calling is still enabled even though I have it disabled on my phone.
I'm not going to say it's happening to every one. Nor would I suggest it's a bad feature for those who need wifi calling. I just don't understand why I'm forced to use wifi calling when I fully capable of using my 4g network.

Keydas said:
I just found a way to verify if wifi calling is still enabled even though you have it disabled on the Note 3. Here is what you need to do.
1. Make sure that wifi calling is disabled
2. Make sure that wifi is already enabled and in use
3. Stand right next to your wifi router
4. Make a call
5. Listen to hear any wired sounding ringback (the sound you hear to let you know that a call is actually ringing the recipients phone).
6. If you do notice a wired sounding ringback complete the call and stay on the line for about 30 seconds or so.
7. Disable wifi while on the call.
8. Once disabled did your call drop?
This is what I did in order to verify if wifi calling is still enabled even though I have it disabled on my phone.
I'm not going to say it's happening to every one. Nor would I suggest it's a bad feature for those who need wifi calling. I just don't understand why I'm forced to use wifi calling when I fully capable of using my 4g network.
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Can you check and tell if you still have signal (bars) when you are connected to WiFi? Or does it become blank (0 bars)?

rahulisola said:
Can you check and tell if you still have signal (bars) when you are connected to WiFi? Or does it become blank (0 bars)?
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Standing right next to the router I have full bars.

no dropcalls for me with steps you have given

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Standing right next to the router I have full bars.
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That is weird. I tried your steps, I couldn't recreate the problem. Just to make sure, I was talking about the phone network signal, not Wifi signal.
If the bars were becoming 0, there is a fix. But otherwise, it may be a faulty unit. You can try and get it replaced.
BTW, try this and see if it helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698329

Thanks man! Gonna try this

Rahulisola, thanks for the link. I was able to fix the issue by doing a factory reset. Not sure what caused it but now I can disable wifi and the call stays connected. Although I found it odd that wifi calling was forced enabled during the reset while I was setting up the wifi network. Disabling it after the factory reset setup did prove it was really off this time. I also noticed that I'm not seeing "HD Voice" which I know assume is related to wifi calling. As I've seen HD Voice whenever I was within my wifi range during a call.
Also, Lorettaa thanks for looking into this as well. I really don't know what caused the problem but I'm glad it's fixed now . No more of pitched ring backs while making a call. And no more odd echo voices when talking. And most importantly no dropped calls.

Keydas said:
Rahulisola, thanks for the link. I was able to fix the issue by doing a factory reset. Not sure what caused it but now I can disable wifi and the call stays connected. Although I found it odd that wifi calling was forced enabled during the reset while I was setting up the wifi network. Disabling it after the factory reset setup did prove it was really off this time. I also noticed that I'm not seeing "HD Voice" which I know assume is related to wifi calling. As I've seen HD Voice whenever I was within my wifi range during a call.
Also, Lorettaa thanks for looking into this as well. I really don't know what caused the problem but I'm glad it's fixed now . No more of pitched ring backs while making a call. And no more odd echo voices when talking. And most importantly no dropped calls.
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Glad that it is solved. Usually I always do factory reset 1st and ask anyone with problems to do that too. My bad, I assumed you had already done it. Must be some other thread. Too much work catching up on me
Anyways, enjoy your fixed Note 3

No VOLTE/Advanced calling.

I picked up this phone a few days ago and I just noticed that VOLTE wasn't working like it should. The settings menu shows that I have the option on, but everytime I make a call or receive a call it instantly switches from 4g to 1x, and therefore I don't have simultaneous voice and data. Anyone have this issue too?
I checked my Verizon account to see if that feature is enabled for my line. Advanced calling shows that VOLTE is on for calls and video chat. Turning it on and off doesn't change anything, turning wifi calling on and off doesn't affect it. I've tried rebooting, and no luck. Seems like a software issue?

I noticed this on a call today as well. Subscribing...

Perhaps the person on the other end needs it as well? I've found calls between my girlfriend and I would switch from HD to non-HD and it seemed like it was due to service on her end. Just a thought. Its actually only happened a couple of times to me.

Davexs28 said:
Perhaps the person on the other end needs it as well? I've found calls between my girlfriend and I would switch from HD to non-HD and it seemed like it was due to service on her end. Just a thought. Its actually only happened a couple of times to me.
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No luck with that one either. I've tried calling other lines on my plans and I got the same results. My S5 did a pretty good job maintaining HD Voice every time I made a call to those lines where LTE coverage was available.
I called CS and they didn't say it was a common problem, but they put in a report pretty immediately for me and should have someone contacting me the next 24-48 hours.

Just a quick update. I didn't do anything, I used my phone as is and it just started switching to HD voice and maintaining LTE while calling. So either they did something on their side, or the phone is just a little buggy.

I have never had that VoLTE icon pop up on my phone but if I look in my recent calls list I do see a Wifi icon on some of the calls.. I assume this is VoLTE??
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badboyg200 said:
I have never had that VoLTE icon pop up on my phone but if I look in my recent calls list I do see a Wifi icon on some of the calls.. I assume this is VoLTE??
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That's WiFi calling.

I have used WiFi calling and it seems to work alright. Is this the same as VoLTE? If it is not how do you enable VoLTE?
I just found it in settings, it is enabled however I have never seen any kind of an icon that it is working. How do I know if it is or isnt?

Where is the setting for VoLTE in Settings? I am not seeing it anywhere.
EDIT: A google search showed me it should be in call settings, but it is not there. Any help much appreciated.

Question How I get excellent battery life

First open settings and turn on wifi calling. Then create the two Bixby Routines below and put the widgets on your home screen. Use the first one whenever you're home or at work (anyplace with wifi) and use the second one when away from wifi. SMS still works with wifi calling.
I'm getting 5 hours screen on time with 50% battery left with about 70/30% unfolded/folded.
I'd like to trigger these routines automatically without leaving GPS on so if anyone knows how let me know.
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90% big screen use. I just removed all the bloatware including bixby. So i would say with or without those routine! same sot? No?

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First open settings and turn on wifi calling. Then create the two Bixby Routines below and put the widgets on your home screen. Use the first one whenever you're home or at work (anyplace with wifi) and use the second one when away from wifi.
I'm getting 5 hours screen on time with 50% battery left with about 70/30% unfolded/folded.
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For me for some reason it doesn't start wifi calling and just keep wifi on. I remember it used to work with my old note 20 ultra.

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90% big screen use. I just removed all the bloatware including bixby. So i would say with or without those routine! same sot? No?
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Do you have a list of all apps that we can remove safely?

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90% big screen use. I just removed all the bloatware including bixby. So i would say with or without those routine! same sot? No?
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That's pretty good. Add the routines and get even better battery life. Here's what I have:

Could you please help by sharing how and which applications you removed?
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90% big screen use. I just removed all the bloatware including bixby. So i would say with or without those routine! same sot? No?
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bryanhayn said:
First open settings and turn on wifi calling. Then create the two Bixby Routines below and put the widgets on your home screen. Use the first one whenever you're home or at work (anyplace with wifi) and use the second one when away from wifi. SMS still works with wifi calling.
I'm getting 5 hours screen on time with 50% battery left with about 70/30% unfolded/folded.
I'd like to trigger these routines automatically without leaving GPS on so if anyone knows how let me know.
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Question, for your routines your have setup do you have the reverse actions option turned off?
Another question, there are only 4 locations for which I connect to WiFi, do you think it's better to automate these results based on location so you don't forget to activate one or the other?

mprunty said:
Question, for your routines your have setup do you have the reverse actions option turned off?
Another question, there are only 4 locations for which I connect to WiFi, do you think it's better to automate these results based on location so you don't forget to activate one or the other?
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I have reverse actions off.
I wanted to automate it based on location but the only way I could see to do this is to have GPS on constantly which uses a lot of battery. I just use the 1x1 widgets on my home screen and so far it works well between work and home.

Do you have any recommendations for gps setup so I can have apps like camera and maps use GPS though it's turned off by default. I tried a couple configurations but none that will actually turn on location for those apps and turn it off when done.

mprunty said:
Do you have any recommendations for gps setup so I can have apps like camera and maps use GPS though it's turned off by default. I tried a couple configurations but none that will actually turn on location for those apps and turn it off when done.
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I have a routine setup to turn on GPS when I open Google Maps and turn off when I close/switch apps or go back to the home screen. This should work for other apps.

bryanhayn said:
First open settings and turn on wifi calling. Then create the two Bixby Routines below and put the widgets on your home screen. Use the first one whenever you're home or at work (anyplace with wifi) and use the second one when away from wifi. SMS still works with wifi calling.
I'm getting 5 hours screen on time with 50% battery left with about 70/30% unfolded/folded.
I'd like to trigger these routines automatically without leaving GPS on so if anyone knows how let me know.
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Thanks for your post, after a bit of searching I've got this setup which I think solves your issue, or at least it does for me. Granted only did this a few hours ago so I can't tell if gps or wifi always on is a better battery saver.
Firstly as per URL I changed airplane mode to leave wifi on while disabling cell connectivity, for whatever reason on my phone it doesn't want to keep BT on even specifying cell as the only option to turn off when flight mode is enabled, so as per the screenshot I have Bixby Routines turn it back on after 2 secs.
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Then you just setup based on Home Wifi connectivity rather than GPS, so you save battery life, ofc wifi will still be on which may or may not use more power, but as stated before have yet to test this.

^I tried that and a few similar routines triggered by wifi connection status but it doesn't work. It will either go into a continuous loop of wifi on/off or airplane on/off. It seems the only way to completely kill the cell connection and auto enable wifi is to use GPS (or other trigger not involving wifi or airplane mode).

A new revelilizarion accorded when using the Wifi/Cell Only setup. When I'm on WiFi and Mobile data is disabled I don't receive any text messages until I switch to Cell Only. I blame those iPhone users in my family. Is there any modification I can use to ensure I get text messages or is it more so I would have to check here and there by switching settings to see if I have any new messages (voicemail too)?

Do you need to put those apps in deep sleeping section into the sleeping group. Those apps put in Deeping sleeping list still shows up in the sleeping list.

I have iPhone family members and I get their texts with data off and wifi only.

bryanhayn said:
^I tried that and a few similar routines triggered by wifi connection status but it doesn't work. It will either go into a continuous loop of wifi on/off or airplane on/off. It seems the only way to completely kill the cell connection and auto enable wifi is to use GPS (or other trigger not involving wifi or airplane mode).
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Even after setting "settings put global airplane_mode_radios cell" via adb to change what flight mode actually does?
I initially had the same issue where wifi connecting was triggering flight mode which would then drop wifi which would turn back on and restart the loop, the config change above fixed that.
That I still have the issue where flight mode is still setting bt off and need to set a task to turn it back on. Perhaps you could try another combo, like "settings put global airplane_mode_radios cell,wimax" and see if that'll allow it to work as expected?

mprunty said:
A new revelilizarion accorded when using the Wifi/Cell Only setup. When I'm on WiFi and Mobile data is disabled I don't receive any text messages until I switch to Cell Only. I blame those iPhone users in my family. Is there any modification I can use to ensure I get text messages or is it more so I would have to check here and there by switching settings to see if I have any new messages (voicemail too)?
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Your carrier needs to support Wifi Calling and SMS delivery via IMS, your phone needs to have Wifi calling enabled... by the sounds of it one of these may not be the case.
Edit: Some light reading to help explain a bit better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Multimedia_Subsystem

You can use Tasker to do all of this automatically.

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I have iPhone family members and I get their texts with data off and wifi only
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Elusivity said:
Your carrier needs to support Wifi Calling and SMS delivery via IMS, your phone needs to have Wifi calling enabled... by the sounds of it one of these may not be the case.
Edit: Some light reading to help explain a bit better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Multimedia_Subsystem
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I have Verizon Wireless for my carrier and wifi calling is activated on my Fold 4. Simply don't seem to come through when I have data disabled, which wierd. Never had the problem before this phone.

mprunty said:
I have Verizon Wireless for my carrier and wifi calling is activated on my Fold 4. Simply don't seem to come through when I have data disabled, which wierd. Never had the problem before this phone.
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Further discovers, the issue arrives when I'm in a group chat with a couple people. By default messages are sent as a MMS. I can switch it to SMS, however the replies in the group messages will not come back in the same group chat.