I've had an e980 for about a year now and it's been one of my favorite devices ever. Given that I paid well under $300 for an unblemished unlocked unit I can't really see the point of replacing it yet. I think it's a better value than even the One Plus One, given that equally pristine units of the e980 are currently going for $200 on eBay.
But to convince myself not to waste money I've been stopping into various carrier stores and comparing my e980 to the LG G3, Note 4 and Nexus 6, which are the only phones I'd consider buying. It's amazing how much brighter and whiter the e980 screen is compared to the G3 and Note 4. For the reading I do on the e980 (and I read on it a lot) the higher resolution offers no benefits and overall the screens are unimpressive when compared side by side. The only screen I thought was comparable, and not necessarily better, was that of the Nexus 6. But there were more similarities in quality than differences and I found the Nexus to be too big and too expensive to consider.
So I'll be sticking with my OGP for the foreseeable future and I just wanted to encourage those of you who have one to think twice about replacing it and those of you who are considering buying one to go ahead and get it. It's a great phone.
second that
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channeledbymodem said:
I've had an e980 for about a year now and it's been one of my favorite devices ever. Given that I paid well under $300 for an unblemished unlocked unit I can't really see the point of replacing it yet. I think it's a better value than even the One Plus One, given that equally pristine units of the e980 are currently going for $200 on eBay.
But to convince myself not to waste money I've been stopping into various carrier stores and comparing my e980 to the LG G3, Note 4 and Nexus 6, which are the only phones I'd consider buying. It's amazing how much brighter and whiter the e980 screen is compared to the G3 and Note 4. For the reading I do on the e980 (and I read on it a lot) the higher resolution offers no benefits and overall the screens are unimpressive when compared side by side. The only screen I thought was comparable, and not necessarily better, was that of the Nexus 6. But there were more similarities in quality than differences and I found the Nexus to be too big and too expensive to consider.
So I'll be sticking with my OGP for the foreseeable future and I just wanted to encourage those of you who have one to think twice about replacing it and those of you who are considering buying one to go ahead and get it. It's a great phone.
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Thanks for the recommendation. After going through a bit of a horror story with a z3 that cracked, got replaced, then cracked AND bent, I was looking for a replacement phone that wouldnt break my bank even further. I bought an Xperia T2 Ultra from best buy, but it was VERY unimpressive, in specs, and screen res/quality. I was planning to return it tomorrow, but didnt have a phone that really spoke to me that was in my budget. I read your review after finding a local store offering the E980 brand new, unlocked for 169 dollars. Went to the store checked it out, Its a great phone, and I walked out of the store with it for 185 including the taxes. Crappy t2 ultra is being boxed up as we speak, and I'll have lollipop on the 980 by the end of the night.
My wallet salutes you!
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Thanks for the recommendation. After going through a bit of a horror story with a z3 that cracked, got replaced, then cracked AND bent, I was looking for a replacement phone that wouldnt break my bank even further. I bought an Xperia T2 Ultra from best buy, but it was VERY unimpressive, in specs, and screen res/quality. I was planning to return it tomorrow, but didnt have a phone that really spoke to me that was in my budget. I read your review after finding a local store offering the E980 brand new, unlocked for 169 dollars. Went to the store checked it out, Its a great phone, and I walked out of the store with it for 185 including the taxes. Crappy t2 ultra is being boxed up as we speak, and I'll have lollipop on the 980 by the end of the night.
My wallet salutes you!
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Glad I could help. That's a very good price for a new phone. I paid about $270 shipped about a year ago and considered it a good price.
Rooting the phone running Jelly Bean (which is probably what you have now) is a snap with Towelroot and Freegee (available from the Playstore). KitKat is available for the phone but of course if you take an OTA update when your phone is rooted you'll bootloop. I actually upgraded from the TOT file available here and then restored my apps and data from a Titanium backup.
However unlocking the bootloader once the phone has KitKat is not straightforward. You can root with Towelroot but Freegee no longer works to unlock the bootloader so you can install a customer recovery. You need to install GPRO_Recovery_6.0.4.4.apk (search for it here) which *does* unlock the bootloader and install a recovery. For some reason once you've done that you can then run Freegee and download either CWM or TWRP from within the app.
One more point: after you've done all this you need to freeze or delete "software update.apk" because AT&T will try to push a small unessential update that if taken while you have root will cause a boot loop.
I am running LG Stock on the phone over T-Mobile, with the AT&T apps uninstalled and Nova Launcher. I get 4GLTE everywhere it's available. I'm quite happy not to be running a custom ROM. While I usually install Cyanogen it doesn't work on this device over T-Mobile. There are problems with voice calls.
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Glad I could help. That's a very good price for a new phone. I paid about $270 shipped about a year ago and considered it a good price.
Rooting the phone running Jelly Bean (which is probably what you have now) is a snap with Towelroot and Freegee (available from the Playstore). KitKat is available for the phone but of course if you take an OTA update when your phone is rooted you'll bootloop. I actually upgraded from the TOT file available here and then restored my apps and data from a Titanium backup.
However unlocking the bootloader once the phone has KitKat is not straightforward. You can root with Towelroot but Freegee no longer works to unlock the bootloader so you can install a customer recovery. You need to install GPRO_Recovery_6.0.4.4.apk (search for it here) which *does* unlock the bootloader and install a recovery. For some reason once you've done that you can then run Freegee and download either CWM or TWRP from within the app.
One more point: after you've done all this you need to freeze or delete "software update.apk" because AT&T will try to push a small unessential update that if taken while you have root will cause a boot loop.
I am running LG Stock on the phone over T-Mobile, with the AT&T apps uninstalled and Nova Launcher. I get 4GLTE everywhere it's available. I'm quite happy not to be running a custom ROM. While I usually install Cyanogen it doesn't work on this device over T-Mobile. There are problems with voice calls.
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Thanks for the heads up. I was actually going through the process trying to figure out why FreeGee wasnt working, lol.
I first tried the MIUI rom (MIUI is a soft spot for me) but hung up on a bootloop, so scratched that. CM12, as you said, is borked. I just rolled back to CM11 and sailing is smooth. Hopefully the release of LG Lollipop turns into a less buggy CM12 to upgrade to in a few months.
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CM12, as you said, is borked. I just rolled back to CM11 and sailing is smooth. Hopefully the release of LG Lollipop turns into a less buggy CM12 to upgrade to in a few months.
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Actually I never attempted to install CM12. Apart from the problems I had with CM11 I don't install nightlies.
So CM11 voice calls are working for you on T-Mobile? I use the T-Mobile MVNO Ptel and people I called could not hear me. This is a documented problem here with the AT&T e980 and the suggested "fix" did not help, so I've always used a modified stock.
Did you do anything other than root, run gpro recovery and then flash CM11? The recovery used should not matter.
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Actually I never attempted to install CM12. Apart from the problems I had with CM11 I don't install nightlies.
So CM11 voice calls are working for you on T-Mobile? I use the T-Mobile MVNO Ptel and people I called could not hear me. This is a documented problem here with the AT&T e980 and the suggested "fix" did not help, so I've always used a modified stock.
Did you do anything other than root, run gpro recovery and then flash CM11? The recovery used should not matter.
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CM11 LTE/Voice/SMS is working fine for me. I'm on full blown T-Mobile (Houston area), and Im using the latest snapshot M12 http://get.cm/get/le5, dated 11-15-2014. voice and data are fine, but it seems my battery life is crap ATM. I'll ride with it for a day or two and see if it improves.
From stock rom (4.4.2), I did this
1. Root via towelroot
2. Run gpro recovery, didnt reboot to recovery, straight back to stock OS
3. Run FreeGee to install TWRP
4. Reboot to TWRP, factory reset, install CM11 and Gapps
5. Success
I'm going to try MIUI again after this trial period, to see if TWRP makes a difference over the CWM bundled with GproRecovery. I know hypothetically the recovery SHOULDNT matter, but using the using the recovery directly after installing and running Gprorecovery, I couldnt successfully install ANYTHING, including the CM11 rom I'm currently using. Only after installing TWRP via FreeGee was I able to successfully install and reboot. Each time before I keep getting Status 7 error. Then I would delete the asserts and process would still be aborted.
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Update, scratch that. M12 does not have working blueooth. Dealbreaker for me. trying out Resurrection Rom next.
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While I usually install Cyanogen it doesn't work on this device over T-Mobile. There are problems with voice calls.
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What's up fellow e980 user? I'm glad to read another story about experience you have with this Phone. I just want to inform you about the script that fixes the t-mobile 's voice issue on cm11(don't think it works on the 12) incase you haven't heard of it. Just do a search in xda 's optimus g pro section and you should find it. Also, for those of you that still want to use cm11 like me, because the lollipop rom has as many holes as a piece of Swiss cheese. There is a newer version of cm11 by a person I think his name is Steve Lovejoy. This version i is call cm11 justlovejoy. You can find the info in the ogp's Android development section, just look for the posting under justlovejoy. Compare to the snap12 version, this one has better stability and better battery life, which I can personally atest to. With the snap12 version and other Rom, my device's battery will not charge it self while the screen is on, the battery drains faster than it's being charged. But now with the justlovejoy, my device is being charged as I'm writing this post. BTW, besides the script that fixes the voice problem, when you're using the custom rom on this Phone, you also need to change two values with the build proper editor, if you're experience problems such as talking on the Phone, and the person you're talking to can't heard you or barely; also the sound to issues with using the earphone, Bluetooth and regular.
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cp_kirkley said:
CM11 LTE/Voice/SMS is working fine for me. I'm on full blown T-Mobile (Houston area), and Im using the latest snapshot M12 http://get.cm/get/le5, dated 11-15-2014. voice and data are fine, but it seems my battery life is crap ATM. I'll ride with it for a day or two and see if it improves.
From stock rom (4.4.2), I did this
1. Root via towelroot
2. Run gpro recovery, didnt reboot to recovery, straight back to stock OS
3. Run FreeGee to install TWRP
4. Reboot to TWRP, factory reset, install CM11 and Gapps
5. Success
I'm going to try MIUI again after this trial period, to see if TWRP makes a difference over the CWM bundled with GproRecovery. I know hypothetically the recovery SHOULDNT matter, but using the using the recovery directly after installing and running Gprorecovery, I couldnt successfully install ANYTHING, including the CM11 rom I'm currently using. Only after installing TWRP via FreeGee was I able to successfully install and reboot. Each time before I keep getting Status 7 error. Then I would delete the asserts and process would still be aborted.
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If you're just trying out the custom kk rom, be sure to try the bliss-stalk and pac - man. I was using both of those for a while, and the customizations were awesome with those two, but had to stay with CM11 justlovejoy now because of the battery.
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What's up fellow e980 user? I'm glad to read another story about experience you have with this Phone. I just want to inform you about the script that fixes the t-mobile 's voice issue on cm11(don't think it works on the 12) incase you haven't heard of it. Just do a search in xda 's optimus g pro section and you should find it. Also, for those of you that still want to use cm11 like me, because the lollipop rom has as many holes as a piece of Swiss cheese. There is a newer version of cm11 by a person I think his name is Steve Lovejoy. This version i is call cm11 justlovejoy. You can find the info in the ogp's Android development section, just look for the posting under justlovejoy. Compare to the snap12 version, this one has better stability and better battery life, which I can personally atest to. With the snap12 version and other Rom, my device's battery will not charge it self while the screen is on, the battery drains faster than it's being charged. But now with the justlovejoy, my device is being charged as I'm writing this post. BTW, besides the script that fixes the voice problem, when you're using the custom rom on this Phone, you also need to change two values with the build proper editor, if you're experience problems such as talking on the Phone, and the person you're talking to can't heard you or barely; also the sound to issues with using the earphone, Bluetooth and regular.
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If you're just trying out the custom kk rom, be sure to try the bliss-stalk and pac - man. I was using both of those for a while, and the customizations were awesome with those two, but had to stay with CM11 justlovejoy now because of the battery.
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I did use BlissPop for a little bit, everything was working great, Right now Im using Beanstalk, running well and decent battery life. I will probably try PAC-man later on in the week. I will say though, running CM11 variant with a good Lollipop theme has sated much of my "gotta have it" itch for CM12.
Using blisspop on e980 and battery life is way better than stock kk
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Using blisspop on e980 and battery life is way better than stock kk
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I'll second that. Running the newest 3.2 version and it's smooth as butter.
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It was a bit frustated when waiting for major update from LG for our lovely G Pro. Although using stock rom is enough, but we need more to optimise the device.
I have been using some kitkat custom roms and decided to use one of the for day to day use. My impression so far is that I wil not go back to stock unless big problem happen to my phone (i.e. when I need to go to service center ?).
So, currently I just waiting for nightly updates or other kitkat new custom rom coming ☺
How about you, guys?
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I got an update notification on my stock rooted phone this morning... Still nervous about installing it.
I like AOSP roms, but I find they favor having the latest android base over working out all of the bugs. Which in turn means extra features, but lack stability. I usually find the best Roms for a phone (AOSP or stock mod) match the android base of the stock.
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There are not too much options for Korean Variant F240x so unless there comes some stable custom rom had to stick with the stock.
I'm using CM 11 as it has DSP working and most custom ROMs do not.
I still wish LG would release an update for us.
The only problem I have with the ASOP and CM based roms is stability. Some have good battery life, some are feature packed, some have working navigation, some have a hard time locking or issues with sound.
I have yet to find one that just works in all aspects. That's what keeps me going back to stock. Even the G2 V5 had issues for me with signal reception (yes I flashed my modem again) and wifi transfer speeds. The only one that has it all working perfectly is the stock 4.1.2.
I wish we had more customization on that base E980 stock rom kernel tweaks and things like that, but I understand the allure of 4.4 roms versus spending dev time on an outdated build. For me though, having a phone that works consistently is more important. That's not to say there is anything wrong with the ASOP and CM roms, I just haven't found one that just works. Especially when it comes to GPS.
I see that there is the 4.2.2 update from China and I hope a Dev or 2 takes a look at that, or the new Gx that is very similar to the G Pro in hardware. Hopefully there is an option to port that to our G Pro. We'll see. For now, I still enjoy my G Pro and really have no desire to purchase anything else on the market right now.
-Logic
ackliph said:
I got an update notification on my stock rooted phone this morning... Still nervous about installing it.
I like AOSP roms, but I find they favor having the latest android base over working out all of the bugs. Which in turn means extra features, but lack stability. I usually find the best Roms for a phone (AOSP or stock mod) match the android base of the stock.
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I got a CWM bootloop......
Oh yeah, another thing I got last time was even I have unrooted (and rooted) stock rom, I could not get OTA update, while my friend got that.
So, still keep using the custom rom which has less bug.
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I got a CWM bootloop......
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Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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I just clicked it so it'd go away. It kept coming back after rebooting.....nice going guy I thought.....no the pleasure of fixing it.......ugghh
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visionlogic said:
Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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is it an auto update? I'm on slimbean 4.3. is there a thread about this to disable anything to avoid the update coming through?
I have been running the cm nightlys now for several days it has proven quite stable does a great job multitasking and running game apps. for battery life i downloaded no-frills cpu control and set the cpu to interactive. also has an option to apply on boot so when rebooting the phone it does not return to on demand. Getting 8 to 12 hrs battery life (6 with heavy gaming) and battery recharges in 2 to 4 hrs depending on which charger i use stock or aftermarket. I am very happy with cm11 at this point and been getting daily updates adding features and fixing issues. I also have run the halo harmony rom which works very well but battery life is short 4 to 6 hours heavy gaming have drained battery in 3hrs but halo interface is nice. As far as stock lg filled this thing with way to much bloat ware and even with it all disabled phone is still slower then what it is capable of being. I love they way this device runs on kit kat and will continue to run the cm nightys until they release a stable.
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You should also know no matter which Kit Kat rom you are running you will need to do this from your dialer go to setting and select vibrate on call waiting. None of the roms have a working call waiting ringer yet but the vibrate function does work but must be selected manually after installing rom.
I have been plagued with the muffled in-call mic problem on any AOSP/CM based ROM. That has been the driving factor for staying on stock-based.
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I have been plagued with the muffled in-call mic problem on any AOSP/CM based ROM. That has been the driving factor for staying on stock-based.
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I just also realised that what you mentioned is true. What happened to me is not all calling, but some were not a problem. I think an AOSP based rom has better in-call mic than CM, CMIIW.
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ahidayat said:
I just also realised that what you mentioned is true. What happened to me is not all calling, but some were not a problem. I think an AOSP based rom has better in-call mic than CM, CMIIW.
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About a week ago cm fixed mic and headset issues they also have dsp manager fully working
Yup, thank you. I am using official CM11 now, and voice call is fixed.
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@overboard1978
Thanks for this update.
I was searching high and low to see if the phone mic issue had been resolved. Many others have experienced it but nobody ever followed up.
This was the one issue that was holding this phone back (no matter what ROM). I'm told that the mic volume is useable - with a little bit of cutting in and out. Not 100% perfect yet, but useable.
Well, I already knew the device likely wasn't going to be getting an upgrade. I bought it as a temporary device. I bought a Note III last week, and am in the process of selling my G Pro.
I do miss some features from it, mostly the 5x5 home screen grid and the actually usable universal remote app built-in, but the S-Pen features outweigh them.
visionlogic said:
Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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I had to use LG FlashTools after a freegee fiasco switching from TWRP to CWM, and ended up on stock 10k. Completely stock, no custom recovery, just 4.1.2 and rooted. If you attempt to install the update already rooted WITHOUT a custom recovery it just gives some message about root detected and reboots back normally.
raduque said:
Well, I already knew the device likely wasn't going to be getting an upgrade. I bought it as a temporary device. I bought a Note III last week, and am in the process of selling my G Pro.
I do miss some features from it, mostly the 5x5 home screen grid and the actually usable universal remote app built-in, but the S-Pen features outweigh them.
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I prefer LG rigth now before Samsung again LG NEED PUT THE DAMN ASS on earth and bring updates on time then you will see Samsung crying.
S4 sucks
S3 blow S4 on any day (yes i know 2 cores vs 4 cores but S3 STILL the phone most used in the world)
Note 3=Note 2 updated what a F*** joke samsung
Samsung not will rule the smartphone world with 10GB of pure TW crap in each phone they sell...
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Mervingio said:
I prefer LG rigth now before Samsung again LG NEED PUT THE DAMN ASS on earth and bring updates on time then you will see Samsung crying.
S4 sucks
S3 blow S4 on any day (yes i know 2 cores vs 4 cores but S3 STILL the phone most used in the world)
Note 3=Note 2 updated what a F*** joke samsung
Samsung not will rule the smartphone world with 10GB of pure TW crap in each phone they sell...
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Settle down, Beavis.
Samsung pretty much does rule the Android smartphone world, despite (or maybe because of) "10gb(wrong) of pure TW crap(also wrong)"
I am thinking about a new tablet since mine got water damage. I want the new Nexus tab, but if I can get this for the right price I will have it as a backup with the Nexus comes out.
Hows Battery Life?
Is it possible to install the GPE software and how easy is it?
Anything I should know about the pad since I havent looked into it at all, just love the size and want on screen buttons so Sammy devices are out.
Scythe024 said:
I am thinking about a new tablet since mine got water damage. I want the new Nexus tab, but if I can get this for the right price I will have it as a backup with the Nexus comes out.
Hows Battery Life?
Is it possible to install the GPE software and how easy is it?
Anything I should know about the pad since I havent looked into it at all, just love the size and want on screen buttons so Sammy devices are out.
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Regarding the battery life, for the price, its not really bad. I would recommend rooting it right away though to increase the battery life. Using stock, I was able to get about 6-7 hours playing The MMO, Avabel, which is pretty intensive graphics wise. I would recommend installing slimkat ROM + greenify to further increase battery life. Havent been able to test how much improvement I got as I let my wife borrow it for a while.
Regarding your second question, I believe you want to convert the regular V500 to the GPE V510 version. There have already been numerous threads on the forums discussing this. So far, it looks like some radios are not working, most notably, WIFI. and is buggy. You can do a search on the forums to view the current status. What I am using is Slimkat, which is pretty close to AOSP and very good when it comes to battery life.
Regarding the last question, I've had mine for only 2 weeks and thus far, Im enjoying it. the bazels are small, the tablet itself feels well made, and performance wise, its pretty good for its current price point. On the negative side, the speakers doesn't sound very nice and are at the back. Would have been better if it was on the front. The screen is not too bright when using outdoors, and the camera is pretty crappy (although we don't really use the tablet as a camera as often as a smartphone so shouldn't be a biggy). However I got mine for about $225 (US) brand new and for the price point, I can hardly find anything save for the nexus 7 that can beat it, performance wise. Ran an antutu benchmark right after installing slimkat on it and actually scores higher than the note 2. Not bad for a $225 tablet, in full HD.
Hope this helps.
Firstly, I love it!!
Still makes me laugh that it's called GPad (lawsuit from Apple anyone)
Battery is better than my mobile ph ^^
Build quality is awesome!!
Mine was dirt cheap (brand new) $299 NZD.
Apparently there's a brightness bug (haven't noticed yet)...
Getting it rooted and ready for custom roms is/was a bit of a mission (if you OTA update to 4.4.2, mine came with 4.2.2 on board).
A few custom roms available - much of a muchness at present.
Needs some custom rom variety, for sure.
If you can get it cheap (like me) I'd jump at the chance!
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King_Rat said:
Firstly, I love it!!
Still makes me laugh that it's called GPad (lawsuit from Apple anyone)
Battery is better than my mobile ph ^^
Build quality is awesome!!
Mine was dirt cheap (brand new) $299 NZD.
Apparently there's a brightness bug (haven't noticed yet)...
Getting it rooted and ready for custom roms is/was a bit of a mission (if you OTA update to 4.4.2, mine came with 4.2.2 on board).
A few custom roms available - much of a muchness at present.
Needs some custom rom variety, for sure.
If you can get it cheap (like me) I'd jump at the chance!
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Yeah it definitely could use more custom ROMS. Unfortunately though it doesn't look like there are too many devs interested yet. Hopefully the demand gets higher. My slimkat doesn't even have a stable release yet. On their official page, it says no tester or something like that. There are some CM nightlies, pac man, and CMB roms available though. Tried CMB but has some app compatibility issues so went with AOSP-based ROM for maximum compatibility.
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Yeah it definitely could use more custom ROMS. Unfortunately though it doesn't look like there are too many devs interested yet. Hopefully the demand gets higher. My slimkat doesn't even have a stable release yet. On their official page, it says no tester or something like that. There are some CM nightlies, pac man, and CMB roms available though. Tried CMB but has some app compatibility issues so went with AOSP-based ROM for maximum compatibility.
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Trying CM11 by infected_ and it's n-i-i-c-c-e-e-!-!-!
Brightness bug on boot - anyway to fix??
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Scythe024 said:
Is it possible to install the GPE software and how easy is it?
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If you want the GPE software, why don't you buy the Google Play Edition. Used ones available on Swappa and eBay.
cam30era said:
If you want the GPE software, why don't you buy the Google Play Edition. Used ones available on Swappa and eBay.
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There's a gpad on Craigslist for $200 nearby and didn't see any gpe on swappa. I know it's fairly easy to make the M8 run gpe software, so I was curious if it's as easy for the gpad
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Scythe024 said:
There's a gpad on Craigslist for $200 nearby and didn't see any gpe on swappa. I know it's fairly easy to make the M8 run gpe software, so I was curious if it's as easy for the gpad
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You can run GPE ROM on V500, but it's not really useable. WiFi doesn't work. Hardware is just enough different that drivers won't work. Devs spent a lot of time on this early this year and hit a brick wall. I sold my V500 and purchased a GPE, and I don't regret the change. Keep watching swappa and eBay. One will show up before long.
King_Rat said:
Trying CM11 by infected_ and it's n-i-i-c-c-e-e-!-!-!
Brightness bug on boot - anyway to fix??
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Ive tried CMB. CM based ROMS are awesome, but the app incompatibility is a deal breaker for me because a few of my apps are in that list. So I stayed with slimkat AOSP based ROM. Never looked back ever since. If only franco kernel is compatible with our tablet, im all set.
Well maybe if the GPE ROM gets ported if and whenever that will happen
EDIT: Im also looking for a fix for the brightness bug on my slimkat. The LEDs appear off but I just double tap my power button to fix anyway. Not really a major peeve for me. Though a fix is very much welcome
For those of you who will unlock the bootloader & root your brand new 5X. Which rom & kernel combination are you hoping to flash (either based on previous experience or from what you have heard) ?
Paranoid android is the only developer that brings innovative ideas to the table...
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Am i the only person that stopped rooting and flashing roms when they got their n5? I used every top of the line Android phone on T-Mobile, was a flash addict. Got my n5, it was perfect, and people were talking about how rooting the n5's were showing slower data speeds. I didn't want to chance slower speeds and vanilla Android runs too good to play with. Missed the addons from other roms but it wasn't worth it me.
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On my moto G 2014 I unlocked and rooted but didn't flash (rom scene isn't close as good as nexus I think) only used stock. Only rooted to use adaway and cf lumen. I wish we can root our phones without unlocking bootloader.
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Am i the only person that stopped rooting and flashing roms when they got their n5? I used every top of the line Android phone on T-Mobile, was a flash addict. Got my n5, it was perfect, and people were talking about how rooting the n5's were showing slower data speeds. I didn't want to chance slower speeds and vanilla Android runs too good to play with. Missed the addons from other roms but it wasn't worth it me.
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I am going to be unrooted and completely stock, like you. Marshmallow added in features that makes custom ROMs less of an appeal to me. I would like Android Pay to work
From what I can see Nexuses have no real need to have a custom rom installed (compared to other smartphones). Also Android Pay will not work if rooted.
Would people agree ?
SlyUK said:
From what I can see Nexuses have no real need to have a custom rom installed (compared to other smartphones). Also Android Pay will not work if rooted.
Would people agree ?
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I agree. I used to just like flashing roms to see new things, but man, when a phone works as good as an n5 right out of the box, its hard to want to mess with that.
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I'm going to try to stay stock. But when the roms start showing up I won't be any to resist
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I'm going to try to stay stock. But when the roms start showing up I won't be any to resist
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Same here... plus I have some root apps I can't live without. I don't really care about custom roms on the Nexus, but like you I won't be able to stop myself, I'm sure. I'd like for Android Pay to work though, but not necessary.
slonlo said:
Same here... plus I have some root apps I can't live without. I don't really care about custom roms on the Nexus, but like you I won't be able to stop myself, I'm sure. I'd like for Android Pay to work though, but not necessary.
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What are the benefits of Android Pay ?
Being in Canada and not being eligible for Android pay there is no adverse affect of rooting. Ideally would be running stock + xposed/gravitybox but one can only speculate when that will be available on 6.0. Until then something ASOP or stock based that includes extended reboot menu, circle battery mod, multiwindow, and additional quick setting toggles
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What are the benefits of Android Pay ?
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You can pay with your phone at 23% of the stores in America lol lol. Which it's pointless. Now if you had Samsung pay that would be a different story, but you don't so let the rooting begin
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What are the benefits of Android Pay ?
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You can be embarrassed holding up the checkout line trying to use Android Pay while your pay card rests in your back pocket. The only use I ever see for this stuff is if you actually forget your card. Then it's great to be able to pay with a phone. And at a drive-thru or restaurant, they take your card.
Cataclysm ROM -PERIOD!
Hands down smoothest ROM I have ever used on any Nexus phone, including stock Google. It is a little different but has everything I could ever want. The battery life is amazing. I've tried others, but have stayed with Cataclysm with my N5 2013.
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Cataclysm ROM -PERIOD!
Hands down smoothest ROM I have ever used on any Nexus phone, including stock Google. It is a little different but has everything I could ever want. The battery life is amazing. I've tried others, but have stayed with Cataclysm with my N5 2013.
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@Mrwirez Is it guaranteed to come for the 5X ?
Cataclysm was favorite in N4 days. But the developer went MIA for 10 or so months during the jelly bean and kit kat days.
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Cataclysm was favorite in N4 days. But the developer went MIA for 10 or so months during the jelly bean and kit kat days.
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@Riverdales27 He's back now ?
I'm usually stock with some kernel like franco or elemetnalx.
Also, I love GravityBox but I guess we'll have to wait a long time for that to work on M.
I'd be looking for put SlimROM on there as soon as possible, I have it all customised just the way I like it on my Nexus 5.
Hopefully none. I didn't get to play around with Marshmallow yet and I hope the new features are enough to make me stay stock. I'm a big fan of CM's Privacy Guard and I want to see how extensive the new Marshmallow one is, that and quick toggles customization. If I'm not satisfied, I'll probably flash CM 13 nightlies when they're available.
I got a killer deal on a new, still-in-the-box Z1 Compact, and I'm wondering what the best thing to do is with regard to updating to the latest build. I've heard all the horror stories about the 5.1.1 update that I'm sure will be my only "automatic" option for ever upgrading it from its default state.
I'm not all that well versed on the particulars of each version of Android, so I guess what I need to know is if this latest 5.1.1 build is universally bad for everyone with this phone. Since some have reported new batteries resolving the problem, do you think it'll work on a brand new, never-touched Z1C (I haven't even turned it on yet)?
And if you do advise against Lollipop, how screwed am I sticking with an old Android version? Are there a lot of apps that require Lollipop? Part of the killer deal was no warranty, so I've only got one shot at this.
SImply put: If someone gave you a brand new Z1C and it was a "use it or lose it" situation, what would you?
Thanks in advance.
Lucky you!
If I got a brand new Z1C I'd configure it precisely the way I've got it.
Put the latest CM 11 nightly on it (there's a guy in the CM 11 thread who regularly updates the build to include Google's latest security patches) and also the Xposed modules I'm using. It's just so well configured right now, I'm even going to put a new battery in it next week since it's still really the best phone for me.
(Will consider ditching it for the Z3C later this year though.)
Right now? You may accept the deal! If there's no warranty and want a Stock-yet-Rooted experience you could go with a Stock based ROM (you can find plenty in the forum, based on 5.1.1 or 4.4.4, I suggest you to look ad Dstriker, based on 5.1.1)! Or you could get a CM based ROM like the Resurrection. Whatever you'll decide, work from that point with Xposed modules, Root apps etc.. to enhance your experience (if that really matters to you, otherwise just stick with the stock one).
I had the same problem about a week ago.
What I did was:
*updated it to latest firmware
*rooted with King Root
*backed up TA
*unlocked bootloader
*installed [KERNEL][Z1C][5.0-5.1][F2FS] Advanced-Kernel v16.0[11/16/2015]
*converted data & cache partition to F2FS
*installed [ROM][Z1C][LP][1.216][LB/UB]DstrikerZ1 Kai ROM SP001[27-Nov][Z5 LOOKS and FEATURES]
*installed Xposed
*did factory reset,cache and dalvik cache
*installed [Z~Z5 Series][EXRxTHS]SONY DRM FUNCTION RESTORATION FOR UB DEVICE
*rebooted to os
*Profit
At the moment after three days of usage 54% battery left. And the phone is flying :good:
If battery is your #1 priority, stay with stock or stock-based KK. I don't think there's much of any issues with app compatibility. However, I also haven't experienced any of the LP 'nightmares' some have reported. I've been on LP with this phone since it came out, and the battery drain is the only considerable downside I've found, and there are some roms that offer excellent relative battery performance, (dstriker, munjeni's 270, Oregon69's MIUI port...), and with battery saving tweaks, possibly comparable to KK. I would say go with latest version and try it out.
For battery, stock KK4.4.4 is still the best. Although, I'm running 5.1.1 and actually, it still brings me through two! complete days (i'm not a gamer, so light user).
However, with LTE / 4g switched on running my LP5.1.1, battery is going down like the Titanic on the iceberg.....so I only switch on LTE when really needed.
5.1.1 is just fine, battery difference between it and KK was negligible for me and other than that it runs very well
only downside is that ugly as hell blue status bar
5.1.1 is fine for me as well, 2-3 days regularly (no gaming).
I have stock 5.1.1, Locked Bootloader, but still have root access and TWRP.
Not had any problems(Needed to modify RW on SD card) and battery seems to be good.
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5.1.1 is just fine, battery difference between it and KK was negligible for me and other than that it runs very well
only downside is that ugly as hell blue status bar
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You have an android device, so you can costomize almost everything.
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Frunzdoedel said:
You have an android device, so you can costomize almost everything.
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damn son, i'd rather look at that ugly blue status bar than having an epileptic attack every time i unlock my phone
Im using http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...nt/rom-z5mx-rom7-5-0extended-battery-t3227779
in on of previous version, its 5.1.1 and works like a charm so far so good
Hey guys, I'm not a must have flagship device or a crazy spender when it comes to phones. I tend to lean towards features, and developer support when it comes to phones. I'm still using the LG Optimus G e970 that I bought 2 years ago, and I think it's time for a change. The D851 has everything I'm looking for at a decent price, but I'm worried now after reading so many people are having boot loops, wifi issues, etc. Would it be a bad decision to buy this phone since it seems like it's facing a bunch of issues due to aging.
Thanks guys!
I just bought one last week. Refurbished. So far, so good. Still early to judge but this phone is so fast and smooth.
I am running stock with Marshmallow 6.0. I usually root but really I have no need to right now.
I got a mint used one with zero lemon 9k mah battery for 120, it's stock 6.0.1 rooted and debloated and works fantastic.
Thanks guys! I made the purchase with an extra battery!
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Thanks guys! I made the purchase with an extra battery!
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In my opinion, best phone for the price and features. I have had mine for nearly two years and it is still going strong. Just got a smart circle case with wireless charging and really happy with it. Developer support is also very good. I tried to run the Tmobile stock 6.0 but it was sluggish and Wifi calling could never connect. Using multirom, I can boot into LP for wifi calling if I need it. Fulmics is my main rom and I could not be happier with the features and performance.
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In my opinion, best phone for the price and features. I have had mine for nearly two years and it is still going strong. Just got a smart circle case with wireless charging and really happy with it. Developer support is also very good. I tried to run the Tmobile stock 6.0 but it was sluggish and Wifi calling could never connect. Using multirom, I can boot into LP for wifi calling if I need it. Fulmics is my main rom and I could not be happier with the features and performance.
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Could you tell me if bluetooth is working on Fulmics. Thanks
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Could you tell me if bluetooth is working on Fulmics. Thanks
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Bluetooth is working perfectly with the stock Fulmics kernel for me. I had tried a different kernel and it broke Bluetooth so I reverted back to avoid issues.
Everyone keeps talking about Fulmics.
May finally root my phone and try it!
How is the battery life?
My local store has one still BNIB collecting dust on the shelf, I didn't find out till after I got their last BNIB G4 and they didn't have any current price for it as corporate stopped updating that price list. I'm sort of thinking maybe I should have got it vs my G4 because of potential bootloop issues but my G4 was manufactured in April 2016 which is apparently after LG fixed the hardware problem. We'll see. I have half a mind to call them up tomorrow and see if I can get a current price on it.
I had a G3 on Verizon but didn't have it long enough to really make it shine. VZW installs so much freaking bloat that its kinda impossible to fairly judge a phone sometimes. Spec wise its honestly pretty close to the G4 although my G4 out of the box is the fastest phone I've had on an OEM rom and its not even close.
Definitely. I have had mine (bought it used) for 7 months now and have had no issues. I would recommend rooting and flashing a custom rom. Makes the phone so much better. It has the removable battery which is great, especially since the battery life is so-so. I can get through a whole day with it with moderate use so I guess it isn't that bad.
It's still a good phone, but look into the moto g4, double LTE speed capabilities. and double charging speed capabilities. Gotta keep up with the newest features
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LG G3 vs. G4 vs. G5
After watching dozens of YouTube videos making comparisons with these three phones, the G3 is still a great phone. The fact that you can buy one new very cheaply now is a plus. I am running Marshmallow now on mine with all of the latest updates. Stock 100%, but rooted and many of the apps frozen with Titanium Backup Pro. I NEVER have an issue with my phone. Battery life is excellent, I never drop calls, Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my cable provider's router. The G4 and G5 look great but the "new improvements" are minimal at best. The newer models will cost you hundreds more, but the bells and whistles just are not there from what I have seen. An extra physical button or two would not sway me to upgrade this phone.
How did you guys root?
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How did you guys root?
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you can root 30D with Kingroot to get temporary root. Then use this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/development/stock-d851-30d-kdz-flashable-zips-imgs-t3367371
Pretty good.
Phone is pretty good. My main criticisms are the phones heat issue and rather dull screen. I haven't run custom ,don't know how much that helps.
Can anyone comment on what you would lose going custom ROM? Currently running stock Marshmallow 30D.
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Phone is pretty good. My main criticisms are the phones heat issue and rather dull screen. I haven't run custom ,don't know how much that helps.
Can anyone comment on what you would lose going custom ROM? Currently running stock Marshmallow 30D.
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As for heating issues -- only one thing will make the biggest difference: lowering the screen resolution to 1080p. That made the biggest difference in the world for me. But to do that, you would need to be on an AOSP rom.
Biggest thing you lose going custom is the camera quality. As for other things, with AOSP you lose the knock code to unlock feature (only feature from LG that I miss), and the LG apps if you actually like any of them. In general, you void your warranty by rooting, and you could run into some issues with some custom roms, Most common is lack of Bluetooth functionality, although many will have it working. It is a much greater experience than stock roms in my opinion and worth the loss. Worst comes to worst, and you go on a nice vacation where you need a good camera for pictures (i.e. hiking) then you could always restore your stock OS (backup is a must in TWRP once you are rooted) and use it for the vacation time, and go back to a custom rom once it is over
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As for heating issues -- only one thing will make the biggest difference: lowering the screen resolution to 1080p. That made the biggest difference in the world for me. But to do that, you would need to be on an AOSP rom.
Biggest thing you lose going custom is the camera quality. As for other things, with AOSP you lose the knock code to unlock feature (only feature from LG that I miss), and the LG apps if you actually like any of them. In general, you void your warranty by rooting, and you could run into some issues with some custom roms, Most common is lack of Bluetooth functionality, although many will have it working. It is a much greater experience than stock roms in my opinion and worth the loss. Worst comes to worst, and you go on a nice vacation where you need a good camera for pictures (i.e. hiking) then you could always restore your stock OS (backup is a must in TWRP once you are rooted) and use it for the vacation time, and go back to a custom rom once it is over
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Thanks for the input on what's lost. I've read about the camera issue. Good to know that's the biggest difference.
Actually if you're running Marshmallow there is a game optimizer mode that will drop the screen resolution to 1080p when gaming on stock. This is where most of the heat issues occur. There's also an option to reduce the resolution to 1080p for all apps. Both options require root.
That being said, even at 1080p the phone gets hotter than it should for gaming. The only other option I've found is the hardware thermal paste mod. Not willing to try it yet.
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Thanks for the input on what's lost. I've read about the camera issue. Good to know that's the biggest difference.
Actually if you're running Marshmallow there is a game optimizer mode that will drop the screen resolution to 1080p when gaming on stock. This is where most of the heat issues occur. There's also an option to reduce the resolution to 1080p for all apps. Both options require root.
That being said, even at 1080p the phone gets hotter than it should for gaming. The only other option I've found is the hardware thermal paste mod. Not willing to try it yet.
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For me the phone got hot even with just multitasking. I really don't game too much and it was heating up like crazy. 1080p fixed all those issues for me. I felt as though performance was slightly better on 1400p, contrary to popular belief. The antutu score also showed that as well. Still like 1080 better though
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After watching dozens of YouTube videos making comparisons with these three phones, the G3 is still a great phone. The fact that you can buy one new very cheaply now is a plus. I am running Marshmallow now on mine with all of the latest updates. Stock 100%, but rooted and many of the apps frozen with Titanium Backup Pro. I NEVER have an issue with my phone. Battery life is excellent, I never drop calls, Wi-Fi calling works perfectly with my cable provider's router. The G4 and G5 look great but the "new improvements" are minimal at best. The newer models will cost you hundreds more, but the bells and whistles just are not there from what I have seen. An extra physical button or two would not sway me to upgrade this phone.
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I love the phone too, but I don't believe there is root yet for the latest 30E update, hoping that changes soon.
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I have got to say my G3 is by far the best phone I've ever owned. I'm currently running Stock rooted 30D. I was thinking about flashing Fulmics ROM, but I read about losing of Bluetooth. I connect to my TV with HDMI Slimport adapter so I can play games on the big screen with my MOGA Power Pro gamepad. So losing Bluetooth is a deal breaker.
@aclegg2011 recently posted they're testing 30e Stock rooted.
Im still new user and can't yet post link to thread. Search Username and you should find it.