Metal band and plastics? - Sony Smartwatch 3

Hi all, I spent a very long time working through the different watches, decided I didn't want the potential screen burn issues of the G watch R or the Zen watch (and I love the look of the zenwatch) and eventually decided I wanted the Smartwatch 3.
Then came the strap, I couldn't find the metal band anywhere and wanted both the silicone and the metal band so I've just received a new Smartwatch 3 with metal band with an idea to order a silicone strap later...
Anyway, nowhere did I read that the metal band contains plastic, does anybody else's or have I got a newer cheaper one? The strap is indeed metal and took a while to remove the pins to shorten the band but the part the watch goes into appears to be silver painted plastic....
If the others are like this how easy are they to scratch on the front? Am I going to end up with a £200 watch with scratches on it?
Cheers all

I wanted to start a new topic but I'm hijacking yours, because this morning my stainless steel SW3 had an unexpected encounter with a wall (not a bang though), and I scratched the part outside the watch core, which is indeed fu#king silver painted plastic.
I would have scratched it anyway, it was a mistake, but then...
I try to polish it with a nail polishing machine (with the dedicated thingy, which is like cloth... I don't know what's its name), and I didn't know it was plastic until I tried on the bottom (on a link) and it worked, so I thought "why not!" and I made a fu#king dent on the top.
Which of course is way more visible than the scratch in the first place.
I'm attaching pictures of before and after (they are not that detailed but you'll understand).
I'm going to write Sony about this as I'm pissed about this, they should have said it wasn't ALL stainless steel.
The same thing happened on my Z Ultra, where the borders appear to be aluminum (and Sony said so itself), where it's really silver painted plastic.
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Oh, the thing on the screen is a protective film, there's nothing wrong with the screen itself
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More pics of the inside without the core: it seems like the inner casing is made of plastic, including top and bottom bezels, where the left and right borders seems like steel.
The plastic inside is not painted, so it's pretty clear that the top is painted.
If you look closely you'll see several hinges, the plastic casing seems latched to those. And if you notice, hinges are present only at the sides.
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fastest83 said:
More pics of the inside without the core: it seems like the inner casing is made of plastic, including top and bottom bezels, where the left and right borders seems like steel.
The plastic inside is not painted, so it's pretty clear that the top is painted.
If you look closely you'll see several hinges, the plastic casing seems latched to those. And if you notice, hinges are present only at the sides.
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WTF? I don't even wanna buy it no more... Too bad, I was looking out for this band. Thanks for sharing. Please keep us updated with Sony's reaction.

djgodlike said:
WTF? I don't even wanna buy it no more... Too bad, I was looking out for this band. Thanks for sharing. Please keep us updated with Sony's reaction.
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No problems mate, I would have bought it anyway, and since I bought at like 20 euros more than the rubber version, I'm not feeling all that ripped off to be fair.
I just wish they were clear about this particular thing, and I would have paid more for the whole watch in steel.
Seeing the inside, it's clear they could have engineered a simple way to keep the bottom part of the inside casing plastic made (to ensure no harm is done to the core when you swap bands), and the top all in steel.
It could have been done, and it would have costed like 50 cent more (for them) while charging it a premium price (for us).
Anyway, I wrote to the Italian customer care, and as they obviously won't know anything, I will bother other regions like UK/US as well until someone answers.
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What a pure let down. Can the platic holder be replaced?

supac said:
What a pure let down. Can the platic holder be replaced?
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I think it can, but it's yet to see if they'll supply the part to the general market or keep it to the self for the eventual warranty repair...
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All metal isn't the best thing either. I had the LG g watch r and that thing scratched so easy. That's the main reason I sold it for the sw3.
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fr0st420 said:
All metal isn't the best thing either. I had the LG g watch r and that thing scratched so easy. That's the main reason I sold it for the sw3.
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Let's differentiate from metal to metal... The LG G R is black metal, which is a pain in the arse to polish, while the SW3 is (at least the band is) stainless steel, satin metal. You can polish it like a thousand times and it will still look good.
That would be the case, if it was all metal.
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It has certainly adjusted what I would be willing to pay for the metal strap to go on my SW3. As soon as it was announced I wondered how they were going to get the watch module to fit in a rigid stainless steel surround. I just assumed it would have a nylon or polycarbonate insert.
I wonder if there is some sort of protective coating that could be applied to the plastic bit to protect it from scratching without spoiling the look.

I have the 'metal' smartwatch 3 as well...
Unfortunately, there would be no way to have it all metal!
The radios wouldn't work... GPS / NFC / Bluetooth, would all really stop working if the top and bottom parts were also metal and not plastic.
Just worth keeping that in mind.
Yeah, it's a bit crappy, but I'm still more than happy with it.

tony_reilly said:
I have the 'metal' smartwatch 3 as well...
Unfortunately, there would be no way to have it all metal!
The radios wouldn't work... GPS / NFC / Bluetooth, would all really stop working if the top and bottom parts were also metal and not plastic.
Just worth keeping that in mind.
Yeah, it's a bit crappy, but I'm still more than happy with it.
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I don't agree with that. The screen is not made of metal, so there's plenty of space for gps/nfc/bluetooth waves to go out of there. I'd rather have an all plastic core.
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You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.

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You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.
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You know what? I didn't know that! OK, I'd prefer having the plastic core than, it would be less exposed to scratches...
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I was a little taken aback when I noticed it was plastic as well and my first thought was scratches to!
I'm going to keep an eye out for a silver permanent marker in a similar shade, so if it gets scratched I should be able to just 'paint' over it.
Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Permanent-Markers-Metallic-39108PP/dp/B00009RAX4

tony_reilly said:
You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.
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So how come the NFC sensor is in the middle of the screen?
And there is a bezel that varies from about 2mm to 5mm in width on the front face that isn't metal.
Is the back of the watch module metal or painted plastic? I'm not willing to scratch it to find out.

dingbatt said:
So how come the NFC sensor is in the middle of the screen?
And there is a bezel that varies from about 2mm to 5mm in width on the front face that isn't metal.
Is the back of the watch module metal or painted plastic? I'm not willing to scratch it to find out.
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The back of the watch module is definitely metal.
Anyway, incredibly enough, Sony Italy has replied to me, saying that the watch is all metal but that metal get scratched too.
I replied posting a pic of the scratched part, let's see if they deny it again.
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fastest83 said:
The back of the watch module is definitely metal.
Anyway, incredibly enough, Sony Italy has replied to me, saying that the watch is all metal but that metal get scratched too.
I replied posting a pic of the scratched part, let's see if they deny it again.
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That is shocking! It is obvious it is plastic just by feel (and tapping it) without even scratching it I cannot believe they would try and deny it....
Anyway, had mine for about a week now and haven't scratched it just yet but I have knocked it a couple of times and panicked, mine screen protectors haven't arrived yet.

thebaldconvict said:
That is shocking! It is obvious it is plastic just by feel (and tapping it) without even scratching it I cannot believe they would try and deny it....
Anyway, had mine for about a week now and haven't scratched it just yet but I have knocked it a couple of times and panicked, mine screen protectors haven't arrived yet.
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They eventually (after I posted the pic) admitted the part around the core unit is "high quality plastic".
I wonder, if this is high quality, something low quality would have fallen off the watch just by looking at it.
They told me to bring it to service under warranty, and I think I'll do that just if they let me keep the core unit (I have 2 spare bands).
When I have the time, I'll send it in and keep you posted (even though I think I'll end up with nothing, since it was my mistake).
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[Q]Bezel scratches easily?

Have a friend who told me how easy his bezel would damage from normal use. I didn't notice this until the other day when I noticed my bezel has lots of small scratches just from normal use (sitting in pocket, playing porn and such).
Anybody else noticed the bezel getting scratched/showing wear really fast?
Was gonna post this in the issues thread but wanted more confirmation before it was in there.
The_Biz said:
Have a friend who told me how easy his bezel would damage from normal use. I didn't notice this until the other day when I noticed my bezel has lots of small scratches just from normal use (sitting in pocket, playing porn and such).
Anybody else noticed the bezel getting scratched/showing wear really fast?
Was gonna post this in the issues thread but wanted more confirmation before it was in there.
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Yeah but its not really a big deal any phones on the side usually scratch easily you wouldn't see it on a all black phone. My previous phone mytouch 4g has bezel scratches all over it but not enough but you can't see unless you closely.
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The_Biz said:
Have a friend who told me how easy his bezel would damage from normal use. I didn't notice this until the other day when I noticed my bezel has lots of small scratches just from normal use (sitting in pocket, playing porn and such).
Anybody else noticed the bezel getting scratched/showing wear really fast?
Was gonna post this in the issues thread but wanted more confirmation before it was in there.
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Hey, don't expect a clean phone if you're gonna be dirty, porn is for computors lets keep it traditional lol
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Get a D30 the bezel is plastic
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It's those hairy palms that scratched the phone while you were holding it.
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It's those hairy palms that scratched the phone while you were holding it.
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LOL
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Eh it's a simple fix. If I find that I'm getting random small scratches on the bezel then I'll just wipe it with some suuuper fine sand paper to give it more of the brushed aluminum look and it will be brand new all over again.
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Eh it's a simple fix. If I find that I'm getting random small scratches on the bezel then I'll just wipe it with some suuuper fine sand paper to give it more of the brushed aluminum look and it will be brand new all over again.
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Post some pics next week for us.
I got the white n black Body Glove case that covers the whole entire phone and the bezel. I dropped my phone once and no scratches. This case is beautiful.
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The_Biz said:
Have a friend who told me how easy his bezel would damage from normal use. I didn't notice this until the other day when I noticed my bezel has lots of small scratches just from normal use (sitting in pocket, playing porn and such).
Anybody else noticed the bezel getting scratched/showing wear really fast?
Was gonna post this in the issues thread but wanted more confirmation before it was in there.
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I'm your friend ?
Thats why I told you case day 1 son !
KillaHurtz said:
I'm your friend ?
Thats why I told you case day 1 son !
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You know me homie, I can't do a case.
The_Biz said:
Have a friend who told me how easy his bezel would damage from normal use. I didn't notice this until the other day when I noticed my bezel has lots of small scratches just from normal use (sitting in pocket, playing porn and such).
Anybody else noticed the bezel getting scratched/showing wear really fast?
Was gonna post this in the issues thread but wanted more confirmation before it was in there.
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Hopefully a software update will fix this...........
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Hopefully a software update will fix this.........
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I Don't know what u guys are talking about I don't even have one scratch or nick on my bezel and I don't even have a case or anything.I've had it like 1 week. also isn't it made of metal
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scuzzbag87 said:
I Don't know what u guys are talking about I don't even have one scratch or nick on my bezel and I don't even have a case or anything.I've had it like 1 week. also isn't it made of metal
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lol thats exactly what i was thinking. mine is flawless after a week and put in my pockets and stuff
Yeah, I've got to say that I am pretty surprised at how easily the bezel scratches. The phone fell out of my coat pocket as I was hanging it on the back of a wood chair. As it was falling it barely grazed the wood leg on the chair before hitting the carpet. I picked it up and looked and sure enough, there is a scuff on the bezel that refuses to rub off.
Luckily my case should be here in a day or two to cover it. But it does have me thinking, I don't think it's the actual metal that is showing the scratch. I think the bezel has some clear coating on it that is showing marks very easily. I bet there is a way to wipe the coating off or at least buff out any marks with some sort of solution and a microfiber towel.
hm...
sn0warmy said:
Yeah, I've got to say that I am pretty surprised at how easily the bezel scratches. The phone fell out of my coat pocket as I was hanging it on the back of a wood chair. As it was falling it barely grazed the wood leg on the chair before hitting the carpet. I picked it up and looked and sure enough, there is a scuff on the bezel that refuses to rub off.
Luckily my case should be here in a day or two to cover it. But it does have me thinking, I don't think it's the actual metal that is showing the scratch. I think the bezel has some clear coating on it that is showing marks very easily. I bet there is a way to wipe the coating off or at least buff out any marks with some sort of solution and a microfiber towel.
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The bezel is not metal. It is plastic. Thats why it scratches so easily and will not rub out....
rpolito73 said:
The bezel is not metal. It is plastic. Thats why it scratches so easily and will not rub out....
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I'm pretty sure that its made of metal. coming from the original vibrant which is made of plastic. it feels noticeably different.
also all the other variants of the gs2 are made of plastic.
rodolfo7171 said:
I'm pretty sure that its made of metal. coming from the original vibrant which is made of plastic. it feels noticeably different.
also all the other variants of the gs2 are made of plastic.
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Just to confirm its plastic. I take these apart for a living... IV had just about every Galaxy phone apart too.... the ones that look and feel like metal have a "metal like" coating (that scratches super easy) but from underneath once its removed you can see its plastic.... as a matter of fact, Sammy doesn't use hardly anything BUT plastic in there devices... the vibrant, GS4G, i9100, AT&T and T-Mobile versions... all plastic. They have a frame in the middle that's made out of that material they use in laptops... maybe coated aluminum? Its tan or silver in the phones but very strong and very light, and if you snap it in half, it almost looks like cast iron... anyway, bezels are plastic, just coated to look and feel metal like.
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Yea realized that now that I dropped it.such a huge disappointment
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Slider scratching the pad?

Hello,
I've had my xperia play for a few weeks now and today I was bored and I looked at the pad in plain sunlight and noticed there are 2 "skidmarks" on the pad. They are barely noticeable though... However, since they are pararell to each other im guessing that the sliding action from the screen is the cause of the marks.
Anybody else have these? Will they get worse with time/use?
It would be nice to have a gamepad scratch protector but I couldn't find any
Here's a pic so you can see what I mean, it was hard to photograph tho.
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Me too. After a few weeks/months I noticed 1/2 of these. Right now after 4 or so months of use I have like 4-5 of those marks.
It's like it scratches the finger-print-proof finish/protection and shows the glossy plastic behind it. It's the same color but since it reflects light it's noticeable on most angles.
Well that sucks... I wonder why nobody has made a skin for it yet, it would give the pad a different look and protect it from this issue
andrewe1 said:
Well that sucks... I wonder why nobody has made a skin for it yet, it would give the pad a different look and protect it from this issue
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I suppose you could get a big sheet of Screen protector stuff and cut it out to fit the game pad, I may try that as I have a lot of the stuff...
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I suppose you could get a big sheet of Screen protector stuff and cut it out to fit the game pad, I may try that as I have a lot of the stuff...
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True, but im not good with cutting stuff lol... I don't want it to look ugly
I might print a stencil using the front high res official renders and then cut it from there...
One of the clips on my Otterbox Commuter case made a mark right through the middle of the touch areas in only a couple days. It would've gotten nasty really quick if I didn't do something about it. I filed them off, which I had already planned to do anyway because they did not offset the clips from the top and bottom protector pieces and they would touch when fully closed preventing a smooth closing action and also forcing the two halves apart slightly when pushed fully closed. I also noticed marks forming on the long, silver, sticker that is visible from the bottom when slid open but I would recommend leaving those clips after filing them off and noticing how much more difficult it can be to manipulate the volume buttons some times. My theory was that they could have just made the whole thing a replacement battery cover but they would have to come up with an alternate way to protect this side if they did that (formed TPU material like used in a fitted keyboard skin may have done the trick).
Actually screen protector on the game pad is a pretty bad idea... when you slide it, it will start to peel off, and it may damage some components like the flex cable.
TheCraig said:
Actually screen protector on the game pad is a pretty bad idea... when you slide it, it will start to peel off, and it may damage some components like the flex cable.
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So no solution then?
actually, I was thiking of using invisible shield pieces, since its thinner and adheres to devices reaaally well...
These scratches are "normal". When I bought the phone I got 1 scratch form the previous user. Now I have 4 scratches and 2 small holes under both sides of sticks.
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These scratches are "normal". When I bought the phone I got 1 scratch form the previous user. Now I have 4 scratches and 2 small holes under both sides of sticks.
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what the? 2 small hole? Do you mind taking a pic so we see what we can expect in the long run lol
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No problem bro. I will post it in a minute.
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you can't feel these holes with the finger, they are just visible, on the pic they are brighter but really a little bit darker
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No problem bro. I will post it in a minute.
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you can't feel these holes with the finger, they are just visible, on the pic they are brighter but really a little bit darker
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Yeah i think i know what the cause is. On the back of the screen, there are 2 little plastic? pads that probably help the screen slide with a smooth motion and probably to avoid the rest of the back of the screen scratching the entire gamepad. Problem is that constant friction between the little pads and the surface of the gamepad is whats causing the wear and making it look like that...
The scratching in the middle is probably cause of the ribbon cable.
Oh well... looks like theres not much to do except to cut a screen protector or something and place it there.
Thanks for the photo though!
If it's already in friction, I don't think adding a film on top of it will help at all. If anything it'll damage it too and probably make it look messy.
I guess pressing down while sliding makes this happen quicker, but that's just the natural way to do it and pretty much can't be avoided.
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If it's already in friction, I don't think adding a film on top of it will help at all. If anything it'll damage it too and probably make it look messy.
I guess pressing down while sliding makes this happen quicker, but that's just the natural way to do it and pretty much can't be avoided.
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Hey, just because your xperia play is now so ugly you don't even want to use it in public, it does not mean we want it to go down the same path
lol, just kidding... however I don't think adding a film such as an invisible shield which is really really thin and adheres itself to the surface would do any harm... it's military grade...I've had it on a lot of devices and it never gets scratched or torn...
We'll see... hope they fix it for the next revision or something
I just swapped out my phone at the AT&T store and I think I can feel some sliding contact on this phone that I did not feel on my last one so the usage wear and tear may vary per unit.
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Hey, just because your xperia play is now so ugly you don't even want to use it in public, it does not mean we want it to go down the same path
lol, just kidding... however I don't think adding a film such as an invisible shield which is really really thin and adheres itself to the surface would do any harm... it's military grade...I've had it on a lot of devices and it never gets scratched or torn...
We'll see... hope they fix it for the next revision or something
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"Military grade" doesn't change the fact that it would obviously reduce clearance in an area that is already known to contact (no clearance) which will cause more friction. If anything, it would need to be a super-thin low-friction material to help at all. Invisible Shield is specifically marketed for it's high-friction "sticky" surface texture.
Plastic around PS buttons is very tough and hard to scratch, designed especially to be able to handle frictions with back of the part with screen. But everything has its own durability so sooner or later scratches will occur. So it's normal.
Flex cable DOES NOT scratch the plastic - I'm 100% sure, I have disassembled it so many times (see signature) that I think I know good how it's built.
The scratches are caused by the several protruding areas on the back of the screen part. It can be barely seen when brining the edge of the back close and horizontally to our eye and looking straight on the triggers, some areas are a little but rounded down to the screen, especially between both tracks and the center concave part and it's surrounded by these protruding areas.
Oh, almost forgot:
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On the back of the screen, there are 2 little plastic?
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The screws are hidden under these two plastic, they aren't cause of the scratches, because they're a little bit under the main layer of the back
Sorry if anything is hard to understand, I tried to describe it as best as I could.
Peace.
thanks for your insight, however I still believe the little plastic pads I was referring to are the cause of some of the scratching, at least on my xperia play, they line up perfectly with the scratch marks.
So, my play started scratching today ; has anybody applied and confirmed the screen protector fix or has any other suggestions?
I exchanged one after a week and a half and it was not showing any of these scratches yet. The new unit showed the mark under the right analog area the next day and a long scratch beneath the screen days later. I think some have better tolerances than others.
I just swapped out my phone at the AT&T store and I think I can feel some sliding contact on this phone that I did not feel on my last one so the usage wear and tear may vary per unit.
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Be wary of putting too much pressure on the flex ribbon when using the slider. Mine has become irreversibly damaged from too much friction, and now causes the back light to flicker on and off randomly. Disassembly and cleaning the cable (the black coating has begun to flake off) has helped but the backlight still acts up randomly. There is literally next to no clearance between the game pad and the screen...

Camera lens protector ideas

A lot of people have talked their fear of the camera lens becoming scratched.
It got me thinking. Would part of screen protector work? Would it affect the camera?
I remember having a Zagg InvisibleShield for an old iPod Nano (full body) and the circular cutout for the middle of the wheel was quite like a lens cover.
So, maybe someone could get something like this to market, if there was enough demand. With the right tools, it could be made by cutting holes in screen protectors.
I also saw this, which echoes my sentiments nicely.
Isn't the lens glass Gorilla Glass too? If it is Gorilla then no point having a shield.
thermalboyz said:
Isn't the lens glass Gorilla Glass too? If it is Gorilla then no point having a shield.
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why is it no point? try to rub some fine sand on the display and see how it looks then. keys would probably not hurt it nor knifes but some fuxing sand could give you pretty nice scratches. try it if you don't believe me.
aameerp said:
A lot of people have talked their fear of the camera lens becoming scratched.
It got me thinking. Would part of screen protector work? Would it affect the camera?
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I can understand your concern, but I definitely wouldn't put anything like a screen protector directly on the lens. Any kind of coating can cause serious degredation of image quality.
I wanted to know about this too, there are scratches on my DHD lens cover and I don't want to have it on my one x when it comes.
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A screen protector on the camera lens will most definitely degrade the photo- and video quality.
One reason I prefer pouches over cases.
i will be looking for a case that puts enough bulk on the back to block contact.
I originally posted this in the reviews thread, thought it was relevant repeating here:
Been trawling through the reviews all day. Even more excited now! Almost all concerns laid to rest except one: The protruding camera lens and it's ease of damage/scratches. One of my favourite sites (that always seen to match my opinions anyway) is Trustedreviews.com, and just finished going over their review, and seen something quite worrying that the reviewer doesn't pick up on. Check out the close up he has taken of the camera lens...
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Now it's not just me right? Those are scuffs on the rim and a couple of scratches and what certainly looks like a crack (it's even casting a shadow) on the lens? I am going to e-mail him to ask if he dropped it, but after seeing a demo video of it being in a tumble dryer for 8 hours, I would love to then see a picture of it's camera lens afterwards. Maybe a case is in order when I take this thing outside!
Full review can be found here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-x_Mobile-Phone_review
wnp_79 said:
I originally posted this in the reviews thread, thought it was relevant repeating here:
Been trawling through the reviews all day. Even more excited now! Almost all concerns laid to rest except one: The protruding camera lens and it's ease of damage/scratches. One of my favourite sites (that always seen to match my opinions anyway) is Trustedreviews.com, and just finished going over their review, and seen something quite worrying that the reviewer doesn't pick up on. Check out the close up he has taken of the camera lens...
Now it's not just me right? Those are scuffs on the rim and a couple of scratches and what certainly looks like a crack (it's even casting a shadow) on the lens? I am going to e-mail him to ask if he dropped it, but after seeing a demo video of it being in a tumble dryer for 8 hours, I would love to then see a picture of it's camera lens afterwards. Maybe a case is in order when I take this thing outside!
Full review can be found here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-x_Mobile-Phone_review
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Yea he dropped it. You can see on the casing in the top right corner also.
You don't have a camera that protrudes that much without it being damaged.
A pouch sounds like the best idea, a neoprene one.
Official pouch is leather with microfiber inside - should cover this problem well enough.
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yup pouch is the easy solution, when you take it out place it on the pouch instead of touching direci the surface
a bit of an expensive (not really if you think what you are covering) solution would be to get one of the screen protectors (clear one so it doesn't affect that much the results of the camera) and try to cut a piece to fit on the camera lens, if possible...
exotikos said:
a bit of an expensive (not really if you think what you are covering) solution would be to get one of the screen protectors (clear one so it doesn't affect that much the results of the camera) and try to cut a piece to fit on the camera lens, if possible...
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Kind of (entirely) defeats the purpose of putting decent optics in the phone if you're going to stick plastic over the top of it.
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Kind of (entirely) defeats the purpose of putting decent optics in the phone if you're going to stick plastic over the top of it.
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Scratching it isn't any better, I guess.
I've got some small scratches too (already), but I've been extremely careful with the device.
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Scratching it isn't any better, I guess.
I've got some small scratches too (already), but I've been extremely careful with the device.
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On your One X??
that sucks......well, you cant have a camera lens like that without it scratching honestly.
Best to get a pouch or a case that does something to prevent it from being scratched.
And putting a protector on the lens is not a good idea. Degrades photo quality quite a lot
If only there were a way someone could make one that's removable as needed, a la old school cameras, one that would click onto the outer rim and just relax there.
EDIT:
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
It's a bit obnoxious... but for those to whom it matters, it wouldn't be a horrid idea.
x3phyr said:
If only there were a way someone could make one that's removable as needed, a la old school cameras, one that would click onto the outer rim and just relax there.
EDIT:
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
It's a bit obnoxious... but for those to whom it matters, it wouldn't be a horrid idea.
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Something like that, but with a smooth surface and better tapered onto the body, would be ideal. Just a mill or two more height than the lens cover glass would be enough... Question is, would that be enough to prevent the speaker dock working?
Something similar to the Case Mate Barely There case I had for the Desire HD would do the trick. The Desire HD lense also stuck out, but it was indented slightly by a raised metal rim, unlike the HTC One X which is completely flat. Even this slight indentation prevented the lense from being scrathed when putting the phone down.
The case was very thin and slight so hopefully Case Mate will be coming out with something similar for the HTC One X, but until it is available I'm going to get an official pouch as I'm terrified not only of scrathing the lense, but even the coating on the back of the housing which seems incredibly soft
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Official pouch is leather with microfiber inside - should cover this problem well enough.
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I have this and feels like a good quality products. Just waiting for my phone to put it in now. Thick enough to protect against drops but small enough not to add too much additional bulk to the phone. Plus the fact it polishes the screen is great.

Crazy idea about sanding galaxy s2's bezel?

Hi guys! I just want to hear your thought on what i'm planning to do.... so i have this awesome galaxy s2 phone but my problem is that it's started peeling off around the bezel and now it looks like crap unless i use a case that covers it all. so i've been googling around and found out that some people sanded their white s2's and it looked black! so my question is when i sand it down will it look black underneath or will it be metallic color? i want it black tho.... has anybody done it? i've already looked into replacing the bezel but it's gonna cost alot where i live which is Belarus...
so what is your take on this? should i sand it down to make it look some what nice or should i just leave it as it is and deal with it until i get a new phone? Thanks in advance for any input.
You can probably paint it yourself if you sand it down first. So you could have any colour you'd like!
Just be careful with the face buttons I suppose.
I heard that people jump off cliffs with wings strapped to their arms, doesnt mean its a good idea.
Save your money and replace it properly. Are you talking about the rear of the phone? that surrounds the backplate (the bezel), or are you talking the front of the phone which is glass :S A replacement bezel for the rear costs very little and ordered from china they deliver anywhere, even belarus.
there is the rear housing
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the middle housing
and then the front..
Hi! sorry for late response....i'm talking about front ..... i would have bought and replaced everything my self but i was told that it's not easy as the touchscreen is glued to the bezel? i have no idea if that's true but it sounds kind of complicated to me
look at the attachment to see how my phone looks (not an actual photo but it's the same)
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Hi! sorry for late response....i'm talking about front ..... i would have bought and replaced everything my self but i was told that it's not easy as the touchscreen is glued to the bezel? i have no idea if that's true but it sounds kind of complicated to me
look at the attachment to see how my phone looks (not an actual photo but it's the same)
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The front comprises 2 sections, its a glass sheet that is over the top, and then the Amoled/digitizer/touchscreen is under that. The glass however is glued to the digitizer.
The glass replacement is fairly inexpensive, but it involves heating the glass to release the glue that attaches it to the amoled, and then you have to reglue the new glass panel on top.
Basically what you are looking for is:
costs about $10-$15 on ebay.
But no, sanding down the GLASS would not be a good idea..
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But no, sanding down the GLASS would not be a good idea..
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ok cool. thanks for help. i'll go out tomorrow at the local market to look for this glass tho and perhaps some1 who can replace it coz i'm afraid of f**ing it up!
hmmmm are you sure it's the glass that i have to replace? have u look at the pic that i posted? i'm might be wrong and forgive me if i am but i don't think it's glass that has worn out furthermore buying it would be a waste of money?
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i've been googling around and found out that some people sanded their white s2's and it looked black! so my question is when i sand it down will it look black underneath or will it be metallic color? i want it black tho....
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Not sure about white S2, but I assume you are talking about sanding a plastic case, right? The bezel on S2 is actually made of metal, so by sanding it you will expose a bare metal surface and obviously get a silver metallic colour. I am pretty sure there are ways to make it black by chemical treatment (after removing the bezel from casing, of course), but you'll have to do some research on this...
Oh, and you are right - your issue has nothing to do with the glass replacement...
Ok, reality check.
Its just some very minor plaint flaking.
if its under warranty, RMA it. If it it isnt see what Samsung would do for you.
if your not already using one, you should be using a case that will cover the bezel...!!!
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ok cool. thanks for help. i'll go out tomorrow at the local market to look for this glass tho and perhaps some1 who can replace it coz i'm afraid of f**ing it up!
hmmmm are you sure it's the glass that i have to replace? have u look at the pic that i posted? i'm might be wrong and forgive me if i am but i don't think it's glass that has worn out furthermore buying it would be a waste of money?
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ok, now im finally with you, its the full front bezel you want to replace.
like so
in which case i wouldnt bother.
As stated about, sanding it down will just give you silver metal. (where its worn the fact its silver underneath should have been a giveaway)
Replacing the bevel is a lot of work and involves removing the screen/glass etc.
Easiest way is either
a) just buy a cheap case for it, that will protect everything
or
b) if you really dont want to put it in a case just get some enamel paint (a little airfix or humbrol paint) and just touch it up with a tiny spot.
Or
C) buy new phone
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caliber2001 said:
Or
C) buy new phone
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this has got me wondering about the 2000mah battery and the case wont fit problems. Wonder if i can sand a mm or so off the back of the battery.
Just to add to the thread for future reference.
There are two layers that chip. The first one exposes a silver paint and then that comes off and exposes black plastic. So I guess it can be sanded. I'm considering doing that.
Aqualunguer said:
Just to add to the thread for future reference.
There are two layers that chip. The first one exposes a silver paint and then that comes off and exposes black plastic. So I guess it can be sanded. I'm considering doing that.
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Its doable but you need to be cautious not to scratch the screen, ive done it my self and some other people. Check this thread.
My black S2 looks pretty good. Don't really like the white one tbh.
try it for my white s2 and it look pretty good again thank u for the idea
it cost me only 3$ (sandpaper p220+Adhesive tape to protect other unwanted area+ changing my screen protector)
look the result and sorry for my english
Instead if sanding down chrome bezel, do you his think there is another option to strip the chrome off? Mine is chipped and I don't think I could sand it down. I like to take if the chrome completely off the bezel. I an able to scrap off the chrome with my finger nails but it us not clean. What do you guys think? Any idea with be appreciated.
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How about use a black nail polish and paint it over the chipped part?
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Hi mate,
In my opinion, never do such a task that u do not have any experience in.
And the risk is rather high of ruining ur phone.
Just buy a good case untill u get the accesory from anywhere.
In india we can get the whole body (including front panel, glass, back panels and battery cover included) in 40-50 $(apprx 2500rs)
So just buy a case till u get a better solution regarding the scratches.
If u get a chance, go for the white body..as my white s2's frame does not seem to chip off.
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Not to late I suppose
If it's not too late I have better idea which I did myself. The area where the bezel has come of can be blackened by using cotton and nail polish remover. What it does is, the nail polish remover spreads the black colour from the sides and now the metallic part is not visible! In short you are doing painting with nail polish remover. Just give it a try!
What it does is removes the chrome and reveals the black part which is under the chrome.
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How many of you with stock metal band have broken plastic connectors/spacers?

How many of you with stock metal band have broken plastic connectors/spacers?
See attached pic for reference.
Also ref: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57809422&postcount=23
More ref: http://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/33qlux/33_days_in_and_its_already_breaking/
More ref: http://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/3403me/black_spacer_on_the_metal_watch_cracking/
More ref: http://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/331qqx/replacement_black_plastic_metal_band_inserts/
P.S. Moto won't just replace the band, they want the whole watch back. EDIT: CONTACT Moto Wendy on Reddit for replacements! http://www.reddit.com/user/Moto_Wendy_W (Thanks erikiksaz!)
Also, if you ignore it long enough, the metal band will then crack the whole watch back like the leather bands have been.
More help!: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/7dcd77976b
Just happened to mine this weeken . A little posses however I have extended warranty with best buy so hoping they will replace the whole watch.
I received my Moto360 on New Years Eve. I paid extra and got the light stainless band version with Motocare. I noticed a couple weeks ago my back is cracked in one corner BUT not like yours. My little black plastic pieces aren't broke at all but the back is starting to crack in one of the corners anyways.
So I ordered the steel connect a couple weeks ago and recieved it this weekend. I put them on but it looked terrible with the stock band. Surprisingly when picking up the watch the steel connect actually puts direct pressure in the corners that are cracking for everybody. I was surprised nobody has mentioned that about the steel connect.
Ahh thanks for bringing that out. I thought about it last night when talking to my wife about her Moto 360 too. Damn, I guess we have no solution but to basically keep exchanging it until the warranty runs out. After that, we toss it back into the stream like a luxury european car for CPO. LOL
To those who have cracks, do you wear the watch very tightly? I.e the watch does not move when you turn your wrist
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To those who have cracks, do you wear the watch very tightly? I.e the watch does not move when you turn the wrist
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I would have to say I do wear mine a little tight. I was a lengthly battle trying to find that sweet spot, removing/ adding links many times. I don't have small wrists by any means but the difference between 1 link is so loose it slides over the bone and I constantly have to readjust it, or a little tight so I doesn't move much.
I'm really not a big fan of the stock stainless band. It just doesn't fit right and I think it looks goofy how the square link meets up to the round face. My StrapsCo 22mm Stainless Steel Shark Mesh Watch Band should be delivered today. Oops scratch that, it was just delivered.
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I would have to say I do wear mine a little tight. I was a lengthly battle trying to find that sweet spot, removing/ adding links many times. I don't have small wrists by any means but the difference between 1 link is so loose it slides over the bone and I constantly have to readjust it, or a little tight so I doesn't move much.
I'm really not a big fan of the stock stainless band. It just doesn't fit right and I think it looks goofy how the square link meets up to the round face. My StrapsCo 22mm Stainless Steel Shark Mesh Watch Band should be delivered today. Oops scratch that, it was just delivered.
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yea that's what the salesman told me the cracks are causes by wearing the watch too tight. The official band is too tiny for the big watch face imo, however it has the right gloss or colour to match it
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To those who have cracks, do you wear the watch very tightly? I.e the watch does not move when you turn your wrist
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Mine is not tight. I would say it's about 1-2 mm space on mine. Definitely does not leave a mark at the end of the day.
I'm also wondering if it's caused by the sudden temparature difference right after charging. The bottom of the watch is pretty warm right after I take it of the charger and wear it.
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With those that have the broken connector pieces, message Wendy on the reddit forums and she'll help you out.
http://www.reddit.com/user/Moto_Wendy_W
I wear mine fairly loose and the plastic pieces still broke. It happens when you flex your wrist to a point where it puts excess pressure on the band. Metal VS plastic, the metal will win every time.
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With those that have the broken connector pieces, message Wendy on the reddit forums and she'll help you out.
http://www.reddit.com/user/Moto_Wendy_W
I wear mine fairly loose and the plastic pieces still broke. It happens when you flex your wrist to a point where it puts excess pressure on the band. Metal VS plastic, the metal will win every time.
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Ah nice thanks for the tip!
Also, more help! https://forums.motorola.com/posts/7dcd77976b
got this good replica metal band off of amazon. it is all metal and i have had no issues with it at all. no plastic clips and it already has the notch so it fits correctly. it looks identical to the official band with the exception of the clasping mechanism. which no one ever sees anyway. i went to a jeweler to install it for 10 bux.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PQBQIYK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
def worth the 30 bux. i have had it for 3 months so far and no issues.
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Stock metal band here, ordered the first batch that came with the spacers and no cracks on the back or the spacers. Small wrist and I'm always very careful not to stress it after reading everything here about cracking backs
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I received my Moto360 on New Years Eve. I paid extra and got the light stainless band version with Motocare. I noticed a couple weeks ago my back is cracked in one corner BUT not like yours. My little black plastic pieces aren't broke at all but the back is starting to crack in one of the corners anyways.
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Not possible, the 360, by definition, has no corners :3
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Mine has been great.
haha you guys wont believe what happened to my moto360...
I was walking on the side of the road, when the band decide to break off and it fell on the road
right after that, a car ran over it on the concrete and cracked the screen.
The watch is only like 2 month old and no warranty for car running over it there goes my 370 dollars in the drain.
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haha you guys wont believe what happened to my moto360...
I was walking on the side of the road, when the band decide to break off and it fell on the road
right after that, a car ran over it on the concrete and cracked the screen.
The watch is only like 2 month old and no warranty for car running over it there goes my 370 dollars in the drain.
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that's terrible do you have a picture??
If you didn't remove the watch pins they really shouldn't have broken like that! Was it the pins that popped out?
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haha you guys wont believe what happened to my moto360...
I was walking on the side of the road, when the band decide to break off and it fell on the road
right after that, a car ran over it on the concrete and cracked the screen.
The watch is only like 2 month old and no warranty for car running over it there goes my 370 dollars in the drain.
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that's terrible do you have a picture??
If you didn't remove the watch pins they really shouldn't have broken like that! Was it the pins that popped out?
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it was the pin that came loose by itself i put it back and it seem to hold still i dont know why it came out.
Anywaus heres the busted screen lol
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The cracked of the 360 back, is not only whit a.metal band, it's appear to happen whit leather band too.
This is a video explaining why this happens:
Moto 360 Back Cracking: Explained: https://youtu.be/swqRTB5Iw3s
I just received my eBay metal band
http://m.ebay.com/itm/351366220700?_mwBanner=1
It came from Hong Kong and looks pretty good for such little money (9 euros). The crack back problem won't be an issue, I believe, as you can see in the last photo. Paid 2 euros for a guy on a watch store install it properly.
I would very much prefer the 24mm Monolink Metal Band but Motorola insists on not selling it separately for us that already have the watch. But considering the price I payed and comparing to the grey leather band I am very pleased

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