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Improve movie/pics capture

Hi,
for those who want to really improve the capture with your Desire there is a very simple trick... remove the piece of plastic which "protect" the lens from dust.
Before doing that have a test without the back cover. You should see a noticeable improvement.
With time the plastic became blurry and its not washable (maybe with toothpaste but I didn't try).
I know that it's a protective cover but the Hero doesn't have one and it seem very robust and on the Desire the lens is at least 2 to 3mm inside the battery cover. Therefore it should be quite safe except if you put it with keys or small sharp stuffs.

I tried photos with/without the rear cover, but didn't see any improvement to be fair.

Maybe your desire is brand new and the glass is still translucent. If one day you found that there is a kind of halo around white or bright area especially on stuffs that should looks sharp do the test again you'ld change your mind.
Do the test with 720p recording.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yeah it's a bit of a PITA to make sure that little piece of plastic is clean before taking a photo, fingerprints cause smear marks on the photos especially when using the flash..

DavieMarshall said:
I tried photos with/without the rear cover, but didn't see any improvement to be fair.
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I've attached a picture made with a small part of the plastic.
you should clearly see that the picture is altered in the bottom left part (espacially on the notebook and on the earphones) while on the right everything stay quite sharp (for a picture shot with a phone). The colors are also altered (see the lower part of the wooden desktop).
the link to the original file : http://www.sendspace.com/file/t5zo0n
BTW it's just a hint for those wo want
I can share movies too if needed.

DavieMarshall said:
I tried photos with/without the rear cover, but didn't see any improvement to be fair.
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Here are 2 samples:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/04yr3i test before mod
http://www.sendspace.com/file/exiq8g test after mod
Both 720p same place, same guy and same foseball
Don't tell me there is no difference plz

hey i took 2 sample pictures and believe me there is huge difference....same conditions in light (not too much light), same scene.
First took the pic with cover ON, then without exiting anything i pulled out the cover and took again.
check the pics below
i must find a way to either clean the glass or remove it, but i am afraid of breaking the camera!!!!!!!
there should be a way to clean it up
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I found a big improvement, thanks. It also helps to clean the lens itself.

hehe, yes, that's a simple trick.
A couple of days ago I've also tested with about 30 shots, whether it would change by much without cover, also because my plastic protection has become strangely ... uhm ... how can I say, it seems like there is some water inside two pieces of plastic pasted together, as if the protection is formed by two sheets of plastic and some air or water leaked inside them.
But to be honest, the biggest improvement came from dismounting the back cover and clean the protector both sides very accurately. Photos taken with it weren't that different from without (for me) to justify removing the piece of plastic ... yet !
But I've also thought that I'd rather buy a new back cover for 15€ when this will happen, I'm more afraid of all the lint that will crawl inside the phone without that protection.

lambrospower said:
hey i took 2 sample pictures and believe me there is huge difference....same conditions in light (not too much light), same scene.
First took the pic with cover ON, then without exiting anything i pulled out the cover and took again.
check the pics below
i must find a way to either clean the glass or remove it, but i am afraid of breaking the camera!!!!!!!
there should be a way to clean it up
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Thanks for joining because to be honnest I felt a bit alone
To remove the plastic I've removed the battery cover and from the inside of it I pull the plastic with a big pen... the plastic broke but I don't care.

Joval74 said:
I found a big improvement, thanks. It also helps to clean the lens itself.
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Yes I thinks that too

hey all,
no denying that the comparisons sample photos the difference is VERY obvious.
I think in this case the cover is scuffed or damaged. The new phone out of the box takes identical quality with cover on or off, but I agree it can get scuffed and then it leaves a smear mark on the cover that will never come off.
this happened to me after I rubbed cover but bit of sand was there and it scratched cover. Then cover basically all turned faded colour like bathroom glass! frosted.
I bought a new cover for 15euro(plus 12euro shipping) and now I do not RUB the cover hard to clean it. If I have to clean it I blow off any heavy dirt, then very gently rub a microfibre cloth on cover to remove grease and fingerprints. It's fine now 2 months. 100% clear and transparent and photos are sharp and fine.
I wish they have gorilla glass on their next camera phone cover. unscratchable except with diamond!!!

I was very skeptic about this since I keep my phone and by extension the lens very clean. But recently I noticed my photos having a distinct blur to them with a grainy over-exposed appearance, lack of detail, colour depth and sharpness. These things were present in the HTC 2.1 ROM.
So I just tried some pics and a 720p capture of the same objects with and without the cover... and you guessed it. Heh, the captures are back exactly to the usual quality I was expecting - without the cover. And looking through the lens is blurry due to a very thin layer of what looks like hand oil smeared across it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention
BTW, this difference doesn't occur with a properly cleaned lens (I have no scratches or fading on mine).
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mcgon1979 said:
Then cover basically all turned faded colour like bathroom glass! frosted.
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That's a fitting description to what my lens now looks like from the inside in good, clear light. You can't see any problem from the outside until you look through it, and through a clean piece of glass at the same object.
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th3 said:
I was very skeptic about this since I keep my phone and by extension the lens very clean. But recently I noticed my photos having a distinct blur to them with a grainy over-exposed appearance, lack of detail, colour depth and sharpness. These things were present in the HTC 2.1 ROM.
So I just tried some pics and a 720p capture of the same objects with and without the cover... and you guessed it. Heh, the captures are back exactly to the usual quality I was expecting - without the cover. And looking through the lens is blurry due to a very thin layer of what looks like hand oil smeared across it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention
BTW, this difference doesn't occur with a properly cleaned lens (I have no scratches or fading on mine).
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That's what I have too, like some liquid between two sheets of plastic. However I've also found that cleaning the inside of the lens solved 90% of the problem.
Now I was thinking about removing the lens, but besides the obvious risks, I would think that if the lens itself gets dirty you have to open the cover to clean it !

does anyone knows a way to perfcetly clean the plastic cover ?????? i don't want to break it at the moment!!!

use Meguires glass cleaner, works REALLY well. you can clean your whole phone with it. no ill effects.
tbh my phone is 4 months old and still the pics are perfect.

lambrospower said:
does anyone knows a way to perfcetly clean the plastic cover ?????? i don't want to break it at the moment!!!
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I would not use any chemical cleaner, just a new clean high quality fibre cloths.
drag it gently over the lens cover inside and out to remove any solid particles like sand or salt (well smaller but hard items). once thats done, a small bit more force (not much!!!) to remove the grease. if the cloth is high quality it will SUCK that stuff up. once its clean, just keep the phone in a pouch and be aware of handling it so you don't grease up the cover with your fingers.

Today I came accross with this issue. Inoticed problem after removing damned invisible shield. I took the cover of and looked through lens. There was horrible blur and no microfiber or even alcohol helped.. Until i found this topic.
In first post author mentioned toothpaste. It worked like a charm to me. To be honest i resurected some old dvd discs couple years ago with toothpaste. God bless toth paste it saved me ~30$ for new cover

There's a similar post to this over on androidforums, someone over there suggested cleaning the lens cover with toothpaste. Yesterday I cleaned my lens cover with 'Duzzit' metal polish, applied with a cotton bud, all the scratches have gone.
I emailed HTC support regarding the apparent lack of quality with the lens cover, they told me to go buy a replacement back cover! My Desire is less than 3 months old and has always been fitted with a gel case and kept in a pocket without anything that should be able to scratch the cover.

Taurus Aluminium Bumper case - Fit AT&T SGII Variant?

I know there are a few (<1mm) dimensional differences between the OEM and ma bell's variant. Anyone actually try to see if it fits?
EDIT:
So, just got the case, and glad to say that it is a perfect fit, save for the top mic being slightly covered (which is fairly immaterial imo).
The fit and finish are absolutely top grade. The case does not seem to affect radio signals nor accessibility of the battery cover, headphone jack, speaker and microphone.
It's important to note that the phone with the bumper on feels nice and secure in my hands. I have 'standard-sized' hands, and found the phone alone slippery, as if it were about to jump out of my hands at any point. After adding the bumper, grasping the side of the phone makes it feel much more secure and actually easier to use. Much less awkward.
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Really big box for a small package inside.
Shows where to install foam tape.
Very nice and snug fit, with zero play- before adding foam tape.
Foam tape in place now that I know the phone fits well.
Perhaps they left this bare for a wrist strap? Though, I didn't notice a slot for one on the international version. In any case (pun?), the bumper case seems to extrude far beyond the exposed part.
Not the best angle, but the loudspeaker is perfectly centered, and fully exposed.
Note the mic port (bottom of phone). Fully exposed, near-perfect alignment.
The volume and power buttons are still easily triggered, although they seem recessed within the bumper. You have to use the cushioning of the finger, as opposed to the tip however.
Standard headphone jack fits snugly, without contacting the bumper.
The tiny bump on the back of the case, part of the headphone jack surround, provides a 1mm clearance. Since the camera module slightly protrudes, the actual camera clearance, at it's lowest point, is about a 0.5mm. While this is far from sufficient on a rough surface, it is good to know that sliding it across a flat surface such as a table or desktop will not damage the camera.
A good 1mm+ of clearance on the front side.

will be good.
u can order

thanks. hope i'm not a guinea pig here

let me know how it goes for you... i'd love to use one of these.

photos please!

Word of warning - I bought the case mate case with the metal back (http://www.case-mate.com/Samsung-Ga...-S-II-Barely-There-Brushed-Aluminum-Cases.asp).
Very nice case but killed GPS.
Without the case immediate fix.. with the case no fix at all. Had to get rid of.
I have a feeling all metal cases will have the same issue.

I wonder if that was just because of the metal back, or just metal in general. I hadn't read anything negative about the Taurus bumpers, in regards to GPS signal.
Worth testing though, having just come from a Captivate I'm a little sensitive about my phones GPS capabilities
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Harbinger1080 said:
I wonder if that was just because of the metal back, or just metal in general. I hadn't read anything negative about the Taurus bumpers, in regards to GPS signal.
Worth testing though, having just come from a Captivate I'm a little sensitive about my phones GPS capabilities
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Will do. Should arrive any day.

Abra_Cadabra said:
Word of warning - I bought the case mate case with the metal back (http://www.case-mate.com/Samsung-Ga...-S-II-Barely-There-Brushed-Aluminum-Cases.asp).
Very nice case but killed GPS.
Without the case immediate fix.. with the case no fix at all. Had to get rid of.
I have a feeling all metal cases will have the same issue.
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With the european version and the Taurus GPS works perfect! Really a great bumper, I hope it fits for you guys!

We're talking about a .7mm difference in height as the biggest difference in size between the two devices. I know it's aluminum, but it's SO close... unless it's landing-on-the-moon precise, I feel like it's got to fit!
I hope so anyway, every other case I've seen is gigantic and really defeats the purpose of having such a slim phone.

No GPS Issues (still works indoors)
Gives a great sturdy feeling.
DOES NOT provide any clearance to the rear camera lens (stock battery).
Very very close to the same offset on the backside.
Gave me my missing Lanyard attachment point via a loop through the speaker hole.
I'm loving it in Gunmetal

iqak said:
No GPS Issues (still works indoors)
Gives a great sturdy feeling.
DOES NOT provide any clearance to the rear camera lens (stock battery).
Very very close to the same offset on the backside.
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That sounds great! I'm not sure what you mean about your last two comments re:camera clearance though... Can you post some pictures? I'm dying to order it, but the skeptic in me HAS to see pictures first!

Yea what do you mean with no camera clearance?. I have the generic Case mate one at the moment but would love a metallic one as that would go epic great together with my keyport.
But do you have any links to where it can be bought?

MeX_DK said:
But do you have any links to where it can be bought?
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http://www.toughracing.com/

Ugh it provides no protection to the camera like the CaseMate one does. The case mate cover at least lifts the rest of the phone high enough so that the camera bit is not extending out beyond the backside and thus you avoid scratches to the lens etc.

MeX_DK said:
Ugh it provides no protection to the camera like the CaseMate one does. The case mate cover at least lifts the rest of the phone high enough so that the camera bit is not extending out beyond the backside and thus you avoid scratches to the lens etc.
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Ahhh... Gotcha. Assuming that's the worst of it, I'm ordering one as soon as I see a picture of this case on an AT&T SGS2.
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I mean, I wouldn't mind a full metal one. IF it actually covered the back as well and lifted the general phone off the deck enough for the camera "housing" to not scratch against the table etc.

Harbinger1080 said:
We're talking about a .7mm difference in height as the biggest difference in size between the two devices. I know it's aluminum, but it's SO close... unless it's landing-on-the-moon precise, I feel like it's got to fit!
I hope so anyway, every other case I've seen is gigantic and really defeats the purpose of having such a slim phone.
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Agreed. What makes me even more optimistic is the fact that if you check out some installation videos on Youtube, when applying the case, you place a rubberized seal between the bumper and the phone itself. This protects the phone from the bumper itself, and also provides a more snug fit, as opposed to a hard-on-hard surface.
I expect the case later today (10/14/11). Promise to report how it goes as soon as I get my hands on it, and will include UHQ photos of the install.

Perhaps this thread should be moved to 'AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Accessories'?
My bad.

Post your mini review with pictures in the ATT thread, with a link here. No harm, no foul!
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(gauging interest) Slickwraps Camera Lens Protector

***PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE UP TOP***
So, after seeing questions on the XDA forums and over at Reddit asking about this, i pitched the idea to Weston over @slickwraps and he immediately replied with some interest and sent out some samples to me for testing.
I believe he said this material is 99.5% optically clear so I set out to take a couple test shots before and after to see if they reduced the quality of the images any.
On to the pics.
How they arrive
WITHOUT Lense Protector
bamboo android without protector
bamboo android WITH protector
Bowling Champ! without protector
Bowling Champ! WITH protector
as you can see, the quality is consistent between all images...nothing you are going to notice with every day use.
Fit of the product was spot on, Installation was a breeze. the protector could be a little thicker so the camera "ring" isn't touching the surface, but I'm pretty sure that would hinder the clearity. as it sits, the protector is right about level with the metal camera ring.
overall I am pleased, and like the title says, Weston just wanted me to Gauge interest for the product. No word on pricing or anything, just trying to get the word out on these and see if it would be worth it for SW to start mass producing them.
let me know what you think! also any comments/criticism are welcome.

I would possibly be interested in this. Depends on pricing. I can just see the lens cover getting scratched up easily without something protecting it leaving you with sub par pictures, not that it takes great pictures to begin with.

unless there like 2 bucks with shipping i dont see why anyone wouldn't just get a full phone case. with one the camera is so where near touching any surface.

A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.

TheAtheistOtaku said:
unless there like 2 bucks with shipping i dont see why anyone wouldn't just get a full phone case. with one the camera is so where near touching any surface.
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Because there are lots of people that like a naked device....me included
tkoreaper said:
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
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Does the N5 have sapphire glass though? Haven't checked myself but I hear people like you saying most high end phones have it....then others saying they wished the N5 did have it.
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It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.

roustabout said:
It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
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Why don't you put your keys in your other pocket?

roustabout said:
It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
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It attaches like a screen protector does
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

tkoreaper said:
Why don't you put your keys in your other pocket?
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I don't always do everything correctly, and the day I'm carrying a second set or have my hands full and forget what is where needn't be a day that i nick a lens.
In fact, the not doing it right every time is why I bought this phone. Very hard to brick a device when you have full manufacturer's images!

I'd probably try those. I'd prefer a case that had a lens cap built in but I can't find any like that. I'd just be concerned that the lens protector would degrade quickly and affect picture quality, bu your example photos look pretty good.

benroy said:
I'd probably try those. I'd prefer a case that had a lens cap built in but I can't find any like that. I'd just be concerned that the lens protector would degrade quickly and affect picture quality, bu your example photos look pretty good.
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I am also concerned with how it would hold up, but I am assuming this is very similar to the material screen protectors are made out of... Which is pretty good usually needing to be replaced every 6 months or so max.
I have been really abusing it just to see how it holds up (trying to scratch it with a button, constantly wiping it down (not necessary its just a habit...finger prints don't show up as much with it installed) with my cotton shirt and it still looks great.
But like I said, Weston is shipping me some more of a different material so we'll see how those work out
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Extremeguard selling the back protector with it, kind of, you just need to trim that piece a little

I'll buy some. It's not about whether the camera is made of sapphire or not, it's about me trying to protect my phone against the perils of my daily life haha. Though I take care of then phone as it is, a simple protector like that is one more layer of added protection. Just in case I do something stupid to it

toddmacmac said:
I'll buy some. It's not about whether the camera is made of sapphire or not, it's about me trying to protect my phone against the perils of my daily life haha. Though I take care of then phone as it is, a simple protector like that is one more layer of added protection. Just in case I do something stupid to it
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We officially plan to launch this.
Will keep everyone updated in the coming days.
Weston
Slickwraps.com

tkoreaper said:
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
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Nexus 5 does not have any corning gorilla glass or any glass that is 9H for the camera, I could be wrong but it isn't specified on the specs such as the iPhone 5C having that sapphire lens cover to prevent scratchings.

I actually still have the lens protector that came with the phone and never removed it, cause it's so hard when I tried. But pics look great nevertheless.
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If anything else you can replace it by removing the back cover and unscrewing the top half its a complete assembly
Here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-To...er_Cell_Phone_Accessories&hash=item1c3c3e8403
if anything else, LG Quoted me 25$ to get it replaced including shipping and everything

Bronyr said:
I actually still have the lens protector that came with the phone and never removed it, cause it's so hard when I tried. But pics look great nevertheless.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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The lens protector that came with the phone doesn't actually cover the lens. It is a 2D donut and has a hole punched out in the middle where the lens opening is. At least, that was the case for mine.

juu666 said:
The lens protector that came with the phone doesn't actually cover the lens. It is a 2D donut and has a hole punched out in the middle where the lens opening is. At least, that was the case for mine.
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Yes and it would be great if @slickwraps does exactly the same with their design, i mean punching a hole in the middle. In that case the quality of the photos won't be affected either.

Just thought I would update everyone on this thread
They are officially Live
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This wouldn't have been possible without @turdbogls, this was 100% his idea.
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Camera lens cover gers scratched easily?

Hi all,
I am wondering if any of you have issue with M8's being scratched too easily? Not deep scratch but hairline on it.
I already have a few lines on mine, which doesn't impact the mage quality but it hurts to see them around. One of my friend also starts to see lines on the lens as well.
Cheers!
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Yeah I have a couple. If it starts to mess with image quality I will be annoyed considering its not something I can replace on this phone.
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Looks like it's easier to replace the backplate compare to M7 should we need to. However I am annoyed by a fact that a few days old phone will get the coating wear out so easily!!
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Double posted.

I also have this issue....
Plastic lens cover is scratched... Been in case since day one....
Hope it doesn't start to effect my quality of photos....
Anyone try to get HTC to fix or replace?

Yeah it does. I cut out a lense cover from a tpu screen protector I had lying around.

http://www.slickwraps.com/HTC-One-M8-Lens-Protector-p/sw-htconem8-lenspro.htm
:good::good::good::good:

This is a picture of my lens after only 6 weeks in use.
The taken pictures are so blurry
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no scratch yet after 2 days - but whan I look back on my M7 I bought one year ago, there are plenty of little scratches. Not big enough to alter image q, but just to catch up the eye. So this time I put a small piece of screen protector I cut out from an old one. Seems perfect.

m8 scratches
I've got scratches,and smudges.it does affect my pics,this isn't cool

Mine was horrible and effected the pictures really bad.
I used a buffer attachment on my drill and it too our all of the scratches.
Before using the buffer
After buffing
Buffer attachment
Cleaned then lens very well with rubbing alcohol then buffed for maybe 2-3 seconds cleaned again with rubbing alcohol and all scratches and scuffs were gone
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I still have some scratches, not noticable on the pictures -or maybe I am too dumb to notice - but still Alcohol+qtip did not help...
so I just wait till it gets worse... thank god I have 2 years of insurance for any scratches/damages I will not use that just now.

I recommend the alcohol/q-tip method as it worked perfectly for me. I did have to use my fingernail to scrape the coating off.. After that, I used the alcohol and a papertowel to remove the rest.. Lens looks new... Then cut a lens cover from an extra screen protector I had...
Sent from my HTC One (M8).

I don't have any scratches on mine, maybe i'm lucky

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I had this exact problem! Here is my story of how I received a free repair from HTC:
I emailed HTC’s USA President, Jason Mackenzie, directly with my complaint. (I did this over Memorial Day weekend.) I explained my past experience with the M7—which was excellent-- and suggested that the M8 is somehow defective.
Jason responded within hours and indicated that someone would contact me on Tuesday. On Tuesday, I was called on both my cell and work phone, and I received an email! When I got back with HTC, they offered to provide an overnight shipping label (both to and from HTC) and they also GUARANTEED that my phone would be repaired FREE OF CHARGE.
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Lens fix...
They seem like scratches but really aren't.
I thought the same thing as well...It is actually a coating that flakes off.
What I did was spray a little bit of plastic cleaner on a microfiber cloth and rubbed vigorously and came out perfect as new.
The cleaner can be found on Amazon...It is called Plexus and works wonders and is non abrasive.

reamglobe said:
They seem like scratches but really aren't.
I thought the same thing as well...It is actually a coating that flakes off.
What I did was spray a little bit of plastic cleaner on a microfiber cloth and rubbed vigorously and came out perfect as new.
The cleaner can be found on Amazon...It is called Plexus and works wonders and is non abrasive.
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I agree that it is just some kinda coating that is coming off as mine has just about fully cleared up. You can still see it very clearly on the depth sensor and I'm looking into ways of cleaning it off. My question is if it is a coating on the camera what is that coating for and will removing it change the way my camera works?

Metal polish and soft cloth/Q-tip, bit of rubbing, gone in seconds.

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Dragonswithin said:
I agree that it is just some kinda coating that is coming off as mine has just about fully cleared up. You can still see it very clearly on the depth sensor and I'm looking into ways of cleaning it off. My question is if it is a coating on the camera what is that coating for and will removing it change the way my camera works?
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I don't think it affects pic quality...I don't know if it is a film left over from the man. process or a reflective coating. My pictures look just as good but w/o the anxiety of thinking I had a scratched lens. Just don't use a polish with ANY kind of grit in it.

I have scratches on mine too but since it's just a coating, I'm leaving it in place since it hasn't affected my pic quality at all. I just think of it as a screen protector doing its job.
I had an XPeria Z1 and it also had an oleophobic coating that you could peel off with some effort (there are Youtube videos showing how). I wonder if this is the same thing?

Real wood cover from Toast

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Looks awesome! Does it make it harder to use the touch buttons and FP button?

One of these, in case form in order to add drop protection would be great. Looks cool as is, but definitely can't rock a phone without a case.
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heymynameiseric said:
Looks awesome! Does it make it harder to use the touch buttons and FP button?
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looks very cool, but i notice that as well. just having a tempered glass protector on mine for awhile was kinda thick for the fingerprint scanner.

Quality looks horrible, and the person who invented the idea of the circle sticking to the lens glass should be moved to the moon.

cavist said:
Quality looks horrible, and the person who invented the idea of the circle sticking to the lens glass should be moved to the moon.
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I assure you the quality of toastmade skins is top notch compared to any other vinyl shins on the market. They are real wood veneer and hold up quite well on your device. I had one on my s7 edge and loved the look and feel. As far as the front skin I would be concerned about the home button cause even on my s7 once skin was installed home button was inset a little and the HTC 10 button in already inset with nothing installed on the front. Also the lens glass cover is optional.

AndroiderM said:
I assure you the quality of toastmade skins is top notch compared to any other vinyl shins on the market. They are real wood veneer and hold up quite well on your device. I had one on my s7 edge and loved the look and feel. As far as the front skin I would be concerned about the home button cause even on my s7 once skin was installed home button was inset a little and the HTC 10 button in already inset with nothing installed on the front. Also the lens glass cover is optional.
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Maybe in the wood stickers world this is top notch. It really bad in my opinion when I see pictures like this.
Also the thickness of the front panel makes phone sensor and capacitivie buttons likely unusable - why covering your phone with something that ruins usability?

cavist said:
Maybe in the wood stickers world this is top notch. It really bad in my opinion when I see pictures like this.
Also the thickness of the front panel makes phone sensor and capacitivie buttons likely unusable - why covering your phone with something that ruins usability?
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The front panel is optional but I did have the front installed on my s7e which has the capacitive buttons and they all worked.

cavist said:
Quality looks horrible, and the person who invented the idea of the circle sticking to the lens glass should be moved to the moon.
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I've used Toast products before, and the quality of their products is top notch. The cutouts are excellent. However, I wouldn't use the front portion on this as it looks like it makes reaching for the back, menu, and fingerprint sensor much more difficult. Also note that the wood is thick enough to prevent using a case with, but it does over some minor drop protection (really minor, but it's there).

heymynameiseric said:
Looks awesome! Does it make it harder to use the touch buttons and FP button?
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Thanks! The wood is only ~0.7mm thick, so it doesn't conflict with the buttons. :good:

AndroiderM said:
I assure you the quality of toastmade skins is top notch compared to any other vinyl shins on the market. They are real wood veneer and hold up quite well on your device. I had one on my s7 edge and loved the look and feel. As far as the front skin I would be concerned about the home button cause even on my s7 once skin was installed home button was inset a little and the HTC 10 button in already inset with nothing installed on the front. Also the lens glass cover is optional.
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Thank you for the support. I haven't had any issues with the front on my S7 - the veneer is only ~0.7mm thick. Unfortunately we can't bevel the edges since the cutouts are so small and oblong shaped, but the edges aren't sharp or anything.

cavist said:
Quality looks horrible, and the person who invented the idea of the circle sticking to the lens glass should be moved to the moon.
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Highest quality wood skin you can get. The laser scored lines have to placed just right to enable the wood to stay smooth and wrap the curves. The lens cover is optional, but it helps protect the glass.

afuller42 said:
looks very cool, but i notice that as well. just having a tempered glass protector on mine for awhile was kinda thick for the fingerprint scanner.
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Thanks! The wood is only ~0.7mm thick, so it doesn't conflict with the buttons. :good:

AliLaPointe said:
One of these, in case form in order to add drop protection would be great. Looks cool as is, but definitely can't rock a phone without a case.
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Thanks, and you'd be surprised at how well they protect. When you drop the phone, the wood takes the hit and the phone remains unscathed. After numerous drops, the wood will get nicked up but natural materials age gracefully with use. Unlike a case, it doesn't add bulk, and you don't have to worry about sand and crap getting inside and scratching your phone. I've also seen cases dent aluminum for no reason, and they're prone to failing where they snap together. I literally just saw a lady drop her cased phone and it popped out. Phone was fuct!

cavist said:
Maybe in the wood stickers world this is top notch. It really bad in my opinion when I see pictures like this.
Also the thickness of the front panel makes phone sensor and capacitivie buttons likely unusable - why covering your phone with something that ruins usability?
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Laser-scored lines are the only way to get real wood to wrap around curves, unless you're carving into a block of wood or something.
Not sure why the button cutouts look so deep - our wood veneer is only ~0.7mm thick, so it doesn't conflict with the buttons. They probably had to shop out all my fingerprints from playing with it. I was barely touching the buttons and they didn't fail once. Also rock a front on my S7 with zero issues. :good: