Hi,
for those who want to really improve the capture with your Desire there is a very simple trick... remove the piece of plastic which "protect" the lens from dust.
Before doing that have a test without the back cover. You should see a noticeable improvement.
With time the plastic became blurry and its not washable (maybe with toothpaste but I didn't try).
I know that it's a protective cover but the Hero doesn't have one and it seem very robust and on the Desire the lens is at least 2 to 3mm inside the battery cover. Therefore it should be quite safe except if you put it with keys or small sharp stuffs.
I tried photos with/without the rear cover, but didn't see any improvement to be fair.
Maybe your desire is brand new and the glass is still translucent. If one day you found that there is a kind of halo around white or bright area especially on stuffs that should looks sharp do the test again you'ld change your mind.
Do the test with 720p recording.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Yeah it's a bit of a PITA to make sure that little piece of plastic is clean before taking a photo, fingerprints cause smear marks on the photos especially when using the flash..
DavieMarshall said:
I tried photos with/without the rear cover, but didn't see any improvement to be fair.
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I've attached a picture made with a small part of the plastic.
you should clearly see that the picture is altered in the bottom left part (espacially on the notebook and on the earphones) while on the right everything stay quite sharp (for a picture shot with a phone). The colors are also altered (see the lower part of the wooden desktop).
the link to the original file : http://www.sendspace.com/file/t5zo0n
BTW it's just a hint for those wo want
I can share movies too if needed.
DavieMarshall said:
I tried photos with/without the rear cover, but didn't see any improvement to be fair.
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Here are 2 samples:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/04yr3i test before mod
http://www.sendspace.com/file/exiq8g test after mod
Both 720p same place, same guy and same foseball
Don't tell me there is no difference plz
hey i took 2 sample pictures and believe me there is huge difference....same conditions in light (not too much light), same scene.
First took the pic with cover ON, then without exiting anything i pulled out the cover and took again.
check the pics below
i must find a way to either clean the glass or remove it, but i am afraid of breaking the camera!!!!!!!
there should be a way to clean it up
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I found a big improvement, thanks. It also helps to clean the lens itself.
hehe, yes, that's a simple trick.
A couple of days ago I've also tested with about 30 shots, whether it would change by much without cover, also because my plastic protection has become strangely ... uhm ... how can I say, it seems like there is some water inside two pieces of plastic pasted together, as if the protection is formed by two sheets of plastic and some air or water leaked inside them.
But to be honest, the biggest improvement came from dismounting the back cover and clean the protector both sides very accurately. Photos taken with it weren't that different from without (for me) to justify removing the piece of plastic ... yet !
But I've also thought that I'd rather buy a new back cover for 15€ when this will happen, I'm more afraid of all the lint that will crawl inside the phone without that protection.
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hey i took 2 sample pictures and believe me there is huge difference....same conditions in light (not too much light), same scene.
First took the pic with cover ON, then without exiting anything i pulled out the cover and took again.
check the pics below
i must find a way to either clean the glass or remove it, but i am afraid of breaking the camera!!!!!!!
there should be a way to clean it up
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Thanks for joining because to be honnest I felt a bit alone
To remove the plastic I've removed the battery cover and from the inside of it I pull the plastic with a big pen... the plastic broke but I don't care.
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I found a big improvement, thanks. It also helps to clean the lens itself.
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Yes I thinks that too
hey all,
no denying that the comparisons sample photos the difference is VERY obvious.
I think in this case the cover is scuffed or damaged. The new phone out of the box takes identical quality with cover on or off, but I agree it can get scuffed and then it leaves a smear mark on the cover that will never come off.
this happened to me after I rubbed cover but bit of sand was there and it scratched cover. Then cover basically all turned faded colour like bathroom glass! frosted.
I bought a new cover for 15euro(plus 12euro shipping) and now I do not RUB the cover hard to clean it. If I have to clean it I blow off any heavy dirt, then very gently rub a microfibre cloth on cover to remove grease and fingerprints. It's fine now 2 months. 100% clear and transparent and photos are sharp and fine.
I wish they have gorilla glass on their next camera phone cover. unscratchable except with diamond!!!
I was very skeptic about this since I keep my phone and by extension the lens very clean. But recently I noticed my photos having a distinct blur to them with a grainy over-exposed appearance, lack of detail, colour depth and sharpness. These things were present in the HTC 2.1 ROM.
So I just tried some pics and a 720p capture of the same objects with and without the cover... and you guessed it. Heh, the captures are back exactly to the usual quality I was expecting - without the cover. And looking through the lens is blurry due to a very thin layer of what looks like hand oil smeared across it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention
BTW, this difference doesn't occur with a properly cleaned lens (I have no scratches or fading on mine).
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Then cover basically all turned faded colour like bathroom glass! frosted.
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That's a fitting description to what my lens now looks like from the inside in good, clear light. You can't see any problem from the outside until you look through it, and through a clean piece of glass at the same object.
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th3 said:
I was very skeptic about this since I keep my phone and by extension the lens very clean. But recently I noticed my photos having a distinct blur to them with a grainy over-exposed appearance, lack of detail, colour depth and sharpness. These things were present in the HTC 2.1 ROM.
So I just tried some pics and a 720p capture of the same objects with and without the cover... and you guessed it. Heh, the captures are back exactly to the usual quality I was expecting - without the cover. And looking through the lens is blurry due to a very thin layer of what looks like hand oil smeared across it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention
BTW, this difference doesn't occur with a properly cleaned lens (I have no scratches or fading on mine).
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That's what I have too, like some liquid between two sheets of plastic. However I've also found that cleaning the inside of the lens solved 90% of the problem.
Now I was thinking about removing the lens, but besides the obvious risks, I would think that if the lens itself gets dirty you have to open the cover to clean it !
does anyone knows a way to perfcetly clean the plastic cover ?????? i don't want to break it at the moment!!!
use Meguires glass cleaner, works REALLY well. you can clean your whole phone with it. no ill effects.
tbh my phone is 4 months old and still the pics are perfect.
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does anyone knows a way to perfcetly clean the plastic cover ?????? i don't want to break it at the moment!!!
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I would not use any chemical cleaner, just a new clean high quality fibre cloths.
drag it gently over the lens cover inside and out to remove any solid particles like sand or salt (well smaller but hard items). once thats done, a small bit more force (not much!!!) to remove the grease. if the cloth is high quality it will SUCK that stuff up. once its clean, just keep the phone in a pouch and be aware of handling it so you don't grease up the cover with your fingers.
Today I came accross with this issue. Inoticed problem after removing damned invisible shield. I took the cover of and looked through lens. There was horrible blur and no microfiber or even alcohol helped.. Until i found this topic.
In first post author mentioned toothpaste. It worked like a charm to me. To be honest i resurected some old dvd discs couple years ago with toothpaste. God bless toth paste it saved me ~30$ for new cover
There's a similar post to this over on androidforums, someone over there suggested cleaning the lens cover with toothpaste. Yesterday I cleaned my lens cover with 'Duzzit' metal polish, applied with a cotton bud, all the scratches have gone.
I emailed HTC support regarding the apparent lack of quality with the lens cover, they told me to go buy a replacement back cover! My Desire is less than 3 months old and has always been fitted with a gel case and kept in a pocket without anything that should be able to scratch the cover.
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Hello,
I've had my xperia play for a few weeks now and today I was bored and I looked at the pad in plain sunlight and noticed there are 2 "skidmarks" on the pad. They are barely noticeable though... However, since they are pararell to each other im guessing that the sliding action from the screen is the cause of the marks.
Anybody else have these? Will they get worse with time/use?
It would be nice to have a gamepad scratch protector but I couldn't find any
Here's a pic so you can see what I mean, it was hard to photograph tho.
i.imgur.com/TgKlO.jpg
Cheers
Me too. After a few weeks/months I noticed 1/2 of these. Right now after 4 or so months of use I have like 4-5 of those marks.
It's like it scratches the finger-print-proof finish/protection and shows the glossy plastic behind it. It's the same color but since it reflects light it's noticeable on most angles.
Well that sucks... I wonder why nobody has made a skin for it yet, it would give the pad a different look and protect it from this issue
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Well that sucks... I wonder why nobody has made a skin for it yet, it would give the pad a different look and protect it from this issue
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I suppose you could get a big sheet of Screen protector stuff and cut it out to fit the game pad, I may try that as I have a lot of the stuff...
TheCraig said:
I suppose you could get a big sheet of Screen protector stuff and cut it out to fit the game pad, I may try that as I have a lot of the stuff...
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True, but im not good with cutting stuff lol... I don't want it to look ugly
I might print a stencil using the front high res official renders and then cut it from there...
One of the clips on my Otterbox Commuter case made a mark right through the middle of the touch areas in only a couple days. It would've gotten nasty really quick if I didn't do something about it. I filed them off, which I had already planned to do anyway because they did not offset the clips from the top and bottom protector pieces and they would touch when fully closed preventing a smooth closing action and also forcing the two halves apart slightly when pushed fully closed. I also noticed marks forming on the long, silver, sticker that is visible from the bottom when slid open but I would recommend leaving those clips after filing them off and noticing how much more difficult it can be to manipulate the volume buttons some times. My theory was that they could have just made the whole thing a replacement battery cover but they would have to come up with an alternate way to protect this side if they did that (formed TPU material like used in a fitted keyboard skin may have done the trick).
Actually screen protector on the game pad is a pretty bad idea... when you slide it, it will start to peel off, and it may damage some components like the flex cable.
TheCraig said:
Actually screen protector on the game pad is a pretty bad idea... when you slide it, it will start to peel off, and it may damage some components like the flex cable.
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So no solution then?
actually, I was thiking of using invisible shield pieces, since its thinner and adheres to devices reaaally well...
These scratches are "normal". When I bought the phone I got 1 scratch form the previous user. Now I have 4 scratches and 2 small holes under both sides of sticks.
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These scratches are "normal". When I bought the phone I got 1 scratch form the previous user. Now I have 4 scratches and 2 small holes under both sides of sticks.
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what the? 2 small hole? Do you mind taking a pic so we see what we can expect in the long run lol
thanks
No problem bro. I will post it in a minute.
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you can't feel these holes with the finger, they are just visible, on the pic they are brighter but really a little bit darker
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No problem bro. I will post it in a minute.
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you can't feel these holes with the finger, they are just visible, on the pic they are brighter but really a little bit darker
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Yeah i think i know what the cause is. On the back of the screen, there are 2 little plastic? pads that probably help the screen slide with a smooth motion and probably to avoid the rest of the back of the screen scratching the entire gamepad. Problem is that constant friction between the little pads and the surface of the gamepad is whats causing the wear and making it look like that...
The scratching in the middle is probably cause of the ribbon cable.
Oh well... looks like theres not much to do except to cut a screen protector or something and place it there.
Thanks for the photo though!
If it's already in friction, I don't think adding a film on top of it will help at all. If anything it'll damage it too and probably make it look messy.
I guess pressing down while sliding makes this happen quicker, but that's just the natural way to do it and pretty much can't be avoided.
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If it's already in friction, I don't think adding a film on top of it will help at all. If anything it'll damage it too and probably make it look messy.
I guess pressing down while sliding makes this happen quicker, but that's just the natural way to do it and pretty much can't be avoided.
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Hey, just because your xperia play is now so ugly you don't even want to use it in public, it does not mean we want it to go down the same path
lol, just kidding... however I don't think adding a film such as an invisible shield which is really really thin and adheres itself to the surface would do any harm... it's military grade...I've had it on a lot of devices and it never gets scratched or torn...
We'll see... hope they fix it for the next revision or something
I just swapped out my phone at the AT&T store and I think I can feel some sliding contact on this phone that I did not feel on my last one so the usage wear and tear may vary per unit.
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Hey, just because your xperia play is now so ugly you don't even want to use it in public, it does not mean we want it to go down the same path
lol, just kidding... however I don't think adding a film such as an invisible shield which is really really thin and adheres itself to the surface would do any harm... it's military grade...I've had it on a lot of devices and it never gets scratched or torn...
We'll see... hope they fix it for the next revision or something
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"Military grade" doesn't change the fact that it would obviously reduce clearance in an area that is already known to contact (no clearance) which will cause more friction. If anything, it would need to be a super-thin low-friction material to help at all. Invisible Shield is specifically marketed for it's high-friction "sticky" surface texture.
Plastic around PS buttons is very tough and hard to scratch, designed especially to be able to handle frictions with back of the part with screen. But everything has its own durability so sooner or later scratches will occur. So it's normal.
Flex cable DOES NOT scratch the plastic - I'm 100% sure, I have disassembled it so many times (see signature) that I think I know good how it's built.
The scratches are caused by the several protruding areas on the back of the screen part. It can be barely seen when brining the edge of the back close and horizontally to our eye and looking straight on the triggers, some areas are a little but rounded down to the screen, especially between both tracks and the center concave part and it's surrounded by these protruding areas.
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On the back of the screen, there are 2 little plastic?
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The screws are hidden under these two plastic, they aren't cause of the scratches, because they're a little bit under the main layer of the back
Sorry if anything is hard to understand, I tried to describe it as best as I could.
Peace.
thanks for your insight, however I still believe the little plastic pads I was referring to are the cause of some of the scratching, at least on my xperia play, they line up perfectly with the scratch marks.
So, my play started scratching today ; has anybody applied and confirmed the screen protector fix or has any other suggestions?
I exchanged one after a week and a half and it was not showing any of these scratches yet. The new unit showed the mark under the right analog area the next day and a long scratch beneath the screen days later. I think some have better tolerances than others.
I just swapped out my phone at the AT&T store and I think I can feel some sliding contact on this phone that I did not feel on my last one so the usage wear and tear may vary per unit.
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Be wary of putting too much pressure on the flex ribbon when using the slider. Mine has become irreversibly damaged from too much friction, and now causes the back light to flicker on and off randomly. Disassembly and cleaning the cable (the black coating has begun to flake off) has helped but the backlight still acts up randomly. There is literally next to no clearance between the game pad and the screen...
A lot of people have talked their fear of the camera lens becoming scratched.
It got me thinking. Would part of screen protector work? Would it affect the camera?
I remember having a Zagg InvisibleShield for an old iPod Nano (full body) and the circular cutout for the middle of the wheel was quite like a lens cover.
So, maybe someone could get something like this to market, if there was enough demand. With the right tools, it could be made by cutting holes in screen protectors.
I also saw this, which echoes my sentiments nicely.
Isn't the lens glass Gorilla Glass too? If it is Gorilla then no point having a shield.
thermalboyz said:
Isn't the lens glass Gorilla Glass too? If it is Gorilla then no point having a shield.
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why is it no point? try to rub some fine sand on the display and see how it looks then. keys would probably not hurt it nor knifes but some fuxing sand could give you pretty nice scratches. try it if you don't believe me.
aameerp said:
A lot of people have talked their fear of the camera lens becoming scratched.
It got me thinking. Would part of screen protector work? Would it affect the camera?
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I can understand your concern, but I definitely wouldn't put anything like a screen protector directly on the lens. Any kind of coating can cause serious degredation of image quality.
I wanted to know about this too, there are scratches on my DHD lens cover and I don't want to have it on my one x when it comes.
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A screen protector on the camera lens will most definitely degrade the photo- and video quality.
One reason I prefer pouches over cases.
i will be looking for a case that puts enough bulk on the back to block contact.
I originally posted this in the reviews thread, thought it was relevant repeating here:
Been trawling through the reviews all day. Even more excited now! Almost all concerns laid to rest except one: The protruding camera lens and it's ease of damage/scratches. One of my favourite sites (that always seen to match my opinions anyway) is Trustedreviews.com, and just finished going over their review, and seen something quite worrying that the reviewer doesn't pick up on. Check out the close up he has taken of the camera lens...
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Now it's not just me right? Those are scuffs on the rim and a couple of scratches and what certainly looks like a crack (it's even casting a shadow) on the lens? I am going to e-mail him to ask if he dropped it, but after seeing a demo video of it being in a tumble dryer for 8 hours, I would love to then see a picture of it's camera lens afterwards. Maybe a case is in order when I take this thing outside!
Full review can be found here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-x_Mobile-Phone_review
wnp_79 said:
I originally posted this in the reviews thread, thought it was relevant repeating here:
Been trawling through the reviews all day. Even more excited now! Almost all concerns laid to rest except one: The protruding camera lens and it's ease of damage/scratches. One of my favourite sites (that always seen to match my opinions anyway) is Trustedreviews.com, and just finished going over their review, and seen something quite worrying that the reviewer doesn't pick up on. Check out the close up he has taken of the camera lens...
Now it's not just me right? Those are scuffs on the rim and a couple of scratches and what certainly looks like a crack (it's even casting a shadow) on the lens? I am going to e-mail him to ask if he dropped it, but after seeing a demo video of it being in a tumble dryer for 8 hours, I would love to then see a picture of it's camera lens afterwards. Maybe a case is in order when I take this thing outside!
Full review can be found here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/htc-one-x_Mobile-Phone_review
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Yea he dropped it. You can see on the casing in the top right corner also.
You don't have a camera that protrudes that much without it being damaged.
A pouch sounds like the best idea, a neoprene one.
Official pouch is leather with microfiber inside - should cover this problem well enough.
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yup pouch is the easy solution, when you take it out place it on the pouch instead of touching direci the surface
a bit of an expensive (not really if you think what you are covering) solution would be to get one of the screen protectors (clear one so it doesn't affect that much the results of the camera) and try to cut a piece to fit on the camera lens, if possible...
exotikos said:
a bit of an expensive (not really if you think what you are covering) solution would be to get one of the screen protectors (clear one so it doesn't affect that much the results of the camera) and try to cut a piece to fit on the camera lens, if possible...
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Kind of (entirely) defeats the purpose of putting decent optics in the phone if you're going to stick plastic over the top of it.
hopscotchjunkie said:
Kind of (entirely) defeats the purpose of putting decent optics in the phone if you're going to stick plastic over the top of it.
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Scratching it isn't any better, I guess.
I've got some small scratches too (already), but I've been extremely careful with the device.
Gibeon said:
Scratching it isn't any better, I guess.
I've got some small scratches too (already), but I've been extremely careful with the device.
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On your One X??
that sucks......well, you cant have a camera lens like that without it scratching honestly.
Best to get a pouch or a case that does something to prevent it from being scratched.
And putting a protector on the lens is not a good idea. Degrades photo quality quite a lot
If only there were a way someone could make one that's removable as needed, a la old school cameras, one that would click onto the outer rim and just relax there.
EDIT:
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
It's a bit obnoxious... but for those to whom it matters, it wouldn't be a horrid idea.
x3phyr said:
If only there were a way someone could make one that's removable as needed, a la old school cameras, one that would click onto the outer rim and just relax there.
EDIT:
http://www.amazon.com/Cell-Phone-Camera-Lens-Protector/dp/B004GZSXQI
It's a bit obnoxious... but for those to whom it matters, it wouldn't be a horrid idea.
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Something like that, but with a smooth surface and better tapered onto the body, would be ideal. Just a mill or two more height than the lens cover glass would be enough... Question is, would that be enough to prevent the speaker dock working?
Something similar to the Case Mate Barely There case I had for the Desire HD would do the trick. The Desire HD lense also stuck out, but it was indented slightly by a raised metal rim, unlike the HTC One X which is completely flat. Even this slight indentation prevented the lense from being scrathed when putting the phone down.
The case was very thin and slight so hopefully Case Mate will be coming out with something similar for the HTC One X, but until it is available I'm going to get an official pouch as I'm terrified not only of scrathing the lense, but even the coating on the back of the housing which seems incredibly soft
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Official pouch is leather with microfiber inside - should cover this problem well enough.
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I have this and feels like a good quality products. Just waiting for my phone to put it in now. Thick enough to protect against drops but small enough not to add too much additional bulk to the phone. Plus the fact it polishes the screen is great.
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So, after seeing questions on the XDA forums and over at Reddit asking about this, i pitched the idea to Weston over @slickwraps and he immediately replied with some interest and sent out some samples to me for testing.
I believe he said this material is 99.5% optically clear so I set out to take a couple test shots before and after to see if they reduced the quality of the images any.
On to the pics.
How they arrive
WITHOUT Lense Protector
bamboo android without protector
bamboo android WITH protector
Bowling Champ! without protector
Bowling Champ! WITH protector
as you can see, the quality is consistent between all images...nothing you are going to notice with every day use.
Fit of the product was spot on, Installation was a breeze. the protector could be a little thicker so the camera "ring" isn't touching the surface, but I'm pretty sure that would hinder the clearity. as it sits, the protector is right about level with the metal camera ring.
overall I am pleased, and like the title says, Weston just wanted me to Gauge interest for the product. No word on pricing or anything, just trying to get the word out on these and see if it would be worth it for SW to start mass producing them.
let me know what you think! also any comments/criticism are welcome.
I would possibly be interested in this. Depends on pricing. I can just see the lens cover getting scratched up easily without something protecting it leaving you with sub par pictures, not that it takes great pictures to begin with.
unless there like 2 bucks with shipping i dont see why anyone wouldn't just get a full phone case. with one the camera is so where near touching any surface.
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
TheAtheistOtaku said:
unless there like 2 bucks with shipping i dont see why anyone wouldn't just get a full phone case. with one the camera is so where near touching any surface.
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Because there are lots of people that like a naked device....me included
tkoreaper said:
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
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Does the N5 have sapphire glass though? Haven't checked myself but I hear people like you saying most high end phones have it....then others saying they wished the N5 did have it.
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It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
roustabout said:
It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
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Why don't you put your keys in your other pocket?
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It'd depend on how it attached, but I might be interested in this kind of thing. I'd much rather have my keys nick this than the lens proper.
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It attaches like a screen protector does
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Why don't you put your keys in your other pocket?
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I don't always do everything correctly, and the day I'm carrying a second set or have my hands full and forget what is where needn't be a day that i nick a lens.
In fact, the not doing it right every time is why I bought this phone. Very hard to brick a device when you have full manufacturer's images!
I'd probably try those. I'd prefer a case that had a lens cap built in but I can't find any like that. I'd just be concerned that the lens protector would degrade quickly and affect picture quality, bu your example photos look pretty good.
benroy said:
I'd probably try those. I'd prefer a case that had a lens cap built in but I can't find any like that. I'd just be concerned that the lens protector would degrade quickly and affect picture quality, bu your example photos look pretty good.
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I am also concerned with how it would hold up, but I am assuming this is very similar to the material screen protectors are made out of... Which is pretty good usually needing to be replaced every 6 months or so max.
I have been really abusing it just to see how it holds up (trying to scratch it with a button, constantly wiping it down (not necessary its just a habit...finger prints don't show up as much with it installed) with my cotton shirt and it still looks great.
But like I said, Weston is shipping me some more of a different material so we'll see how those work out
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Extremeguard selling the back protector with it, kind of, you just need to trim that piece a little
I'll buy some. It's not about whether the camera is made of sapphire or not, it's about me trying to protect my phone against the perils of my daily life haha. Though I take care of then phone as it is, a simple protector like that is one more layer of added protection. Just in case I do something stupid to it
toddmacmac said:
I'll buy some. It's not about whether the camera is made of sapphire or not, it's about me trying to protect my phone against the perils of my daily life haha. Though I take care of then phone as it is, a simple protector like that is one more layer of added protection. Just in case I do something stupid to it
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We officially plan to launch this.
Will keep everyone updated in the coming days.
Weston
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tkoreaper said:
A protector for your camera lens is pointless as most, if not all, high end phones use sapphire glass which has a 9H rating and much stronger than the glass on your display. The only thing that can scratch it is a diamond and given the amount of pressure it would take to break it, your phone would get crushed before it does.
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Nexus 5 does not have any corning gorilla glass or any glass that is 9H for the camera, I could be wrong but it isn't specified on the specs such as the iPhone 5C having that sapphire lens cover to prevent scratchings.
I actually still have the lens protector that came with the phone and never removed it, cause it's so hard when I tried. But pics look great nevertheless.
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If anything else you can replace it by removing the back cover and unscrewing the top half its a complete assembly
Here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-To...er_Cell_Phone_Accessories&hash=item1c3c3e8403
if anything else, LG Quoted me 25$ to get it replaced including shipping and everything
Bronyr said:
I actually still have the lens protector that came with the phone and never removed it, cause it's so hard when I tried. But pics look great nevertheless.
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The lens protector that came with the phone doesn't actually cover the lens. It is a 2D donut and has a hole punched out in the middle where the lens opening is. At least, that was the case for mine.
juu666 said:
The lens protector that came with the phone doesn't actually cover the lens. It is a 2D donut and has a hole punched out in the middle where the lens opening is. At least, that was the case for mine.
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Yes and it would be great if @slickwraps does exactly the same with their design, i mean punching a hole in the middle. In that case the quality of the photos won't be affected either.
Just thought I would update everyone on this thread
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This wouldn't have been possible without @turdbogls, this was 100% his idea.
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Hi all,
I am wondering if any of you have issue with M8's being scratched too easily? Not deep scratch but hairline on it.
I already have a few lines on mine, which doesn't impact the mage quality but it hurts to see them around. One of my friend also starts to see lines on the lens as well.
Cheers!
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Yeah I have a couple. If it starts to mess with image quality I will be annoyed considering its not something I can replace on this phone.
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Looks like it's easier to replace the backplate compare to M7 should we need to. However I am annoyed by a fact that a few days old phone will get the coating wear out so easily!!
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Double posted.
I also have this issue....
Plastic lens cover is scratched... Been in case since day one....
Hope it doesn't start to effect my quality of photos....
Anyone try to get HTC to fix or replace?
Yeah it does. I cut out a lense cover from a tpu screen protector I had lying around.
http://www.slickwraps.com/HTC-One-M8-Lens-Protector-p/sw-htconem8-lenspro.htm
:good::good::good::good:
This is a picture of my lens after only 6 weeks in use.
The taken pictures are so blurry
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no scratch yet after 2 days - but whan I look back on my M7 I bought one year ago, there are plenty of little scratches. Not big enough to alter image q, but just to catch up the eye. So this time I put a small piece of screen protector I cut out from an old one. Seems perfect.
m8 scratches
I've got scratches,and smudges.it does affect my pics,this isn't cool
Mine was horrible and effected the pictures really bad.
I used a buffer attachment on my drill and it too our all of the scratches.
Before using the buffer
After buffing
Buffer attachment
Cleaned then lens very well with rubbing alcohol then buffed for maybe 2-3 seconds cleaned again with rubbing alcohol and all scratches and scuffs were gone
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I still have some scratches, not noticable on the pictures -or maybe I am too dumb to notice - but still Alcohol+qtip did not help...
so I just wait till it gets worse... thank god I have 2 years of insurance for any scratches/damages I will not use that just now.
I recommend the alcohol/q-tip method as it worked perfectly for me. I did have to use my fingernail to scrape the coating off.. After that, I used the alcohol and a papertowel to remove the rest.. Lens looks new... Then cut a lens cover from an extra screen protector I had...
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I don't have any scratches on mine, maybe i'm lucky
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Lens fix...
They seem like scratches but really aren't.
I thought the same thing as well...It is actually a coating that flakes off.
What I did was spray a little bit of plastic cleaner on a microfiber cloth and rubbed vigorously and came out perfect as new.
The cleaner can be found on Amazon...It is called Plexus and works wonders and is non abrasive.
reamglobe said:
They seem like scratches but really aren't.
I thought the same thing as well...It is actually a coating that flakes off.
What I did was spray a little bit of plastic cleaner on a microfiber cloth and rubbed vigorously and came out perfect as new.
The cleaner can be found on Amazon...It is called Plexus and works wonders and is non abrasive.
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I agree that it is just some kinda coating that is coming off as mine has just about fully cleared up. You can still see it very clearly on the depth sensor and I'm looking into ways of cleaning it off. My question is if it is a coating on the camera what is that coating for and will removing it change the way my camera works?
Metal polish and soft cloth/Q-tip, bit of rubbing, gone in seconds.
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I agree that it is just some kinda coating that is coming off as mine has just about fully cleared up. You can still see it very clearly on the depth sensor and I'm looking into ways of cleaning it off. My question is if it is a coating on the camera what is that coating for and will removing it change the way my camera works?
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I don't think it affects pic quality...I don't know if it is a film left over from the man. process or a reflective coating. My pictures look just as good but w/o the anxiety of thinking I had a scratched lens. Just don't use a polish with ANY kind of grit in it.
I have scratches on mine too but since it's just a coating, I'm leaving it in place since it hasn't affected my pic quality at all. I just think of it as a screen protector doing its job.
I had an XPeria Z1 and it also had an oleophobic coating that you could peel off with some effort (there are Youtube videos showing how). I wonder if this is the same thing?
We have all seen the JRE scratch test video, and most of us have read Corning's response, but what is the real world scratch resistance?
When I was picked up my phone I noticed the display model had a few small scratches, so I tried to make more. I used both a penny (mohs of about 3) and a Swiss-Key stainless steel (mohs of about 5.5) keyring knife to try my best to scratch the screen, but I couldn't cause a single scratch. So why was JRE able to scratch with the level 3 pick, why did the display model already have scratches, and why couldn't I cause more?
I have tried a few different screen protectors and none of them stay down with a case, but before I take it off I want to know how safe it is.
For those of you with no screen protector, who has gotten a scratch, who hasn't, and how do you store your phone (pocket, purse, granite counter face down?)?
Using mine naked, zero scratches. I did almost have a heart attack when on day 3 it slipped out of my shorts pocket (I was wearing those loose basketball shorts and should not have had it in my pocket when I sat down, I knew this about those shorts) in my car and slid in between the seat and the seat belt anchor (which is metal!). I fully expected to have a nice, big scratch on it when I slowly and carefully retrieved it, but nope! Not a mark. Lucky I'm sure, but nonetheless I haven't had any scratch issues and it's been a full week at this point.
Full week here, had a case to protect the phone but no screen protectors. No scratches to report, front or back.
Full week here as well. No screen protector (First time in years and my anxiety levels are VERY high) and switching between two Spigen cases daily. No scratches at all. Also got a Slickwraps skin coming in soon, so it should add a bit more protection.
Using a case on the back but the front is naked, no scratches at all and i work construction. Constant dust and debris, if my gands are too dirty I use the iris scanner and s pen to use the screen to avoid any abrasions. Not a single mark....not even a light one. I think GG5 is holding up pretty nicely. Phone is in and out of a no doubt dusty pocket all the time and nothing.
It's nice to read such comments I was a bit concerned about GG5... but I think I will buy the Samsung screen protector anyway ^^ (That is not a tempered glass protector btw)
P.s. I don't have a Note 7 yet, but will buy one next yearm (Exynos - Hungary)
I'm very glad to see that so many have no scratches. Especially coming from a construction worker! I think the entire thing was kind of blown out for a phone that hadn't been released to the public yet. I may never go back to a screen protector if I can't find a tempered glass with adhesive all over.
yes, i work in construction and it can be quite dusty at times. i clean my device when i get home with a micro fiber cloth to see if anything happens, in and out of my pocket, finger use, etc. absolutely nothing. i'm not sure what the deal was with that video, but i'm going to have to go and side with corning on their conclusions. after a week of heavy use so far and different conditions, clean, dirty, i haven't even received a micro abrasion. i'm happy, it's a beautiful device and the glass seems fine...its almost 900 bucks people, handle with care lol
Well, there was a guy on Reddit warning people about the back of the stylus putting scratches on his device.
https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/4zina6/the_back_of_the_spen_can_scratch_the_note_7/
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mbzeitz said:
We have all seen the JRE scratch test video, and most of us have read Corning's response, but what is the real world scratch resistance?
When I was picked up my phone I noticed the display model had a few small scratches, so I tried to make more. I used both a penny (mohs of about 3) and a Swiss-Key stainless steel (mohs of about 5.5) keyring knife to try my best to scratch the screen, but I couldn't cause a single scratch. So why was JRE able to scratch with the level 3 pick, why did the display model already have scratches, and why couldn't I cause more?
I have tried a few different screen protectors and none of them stay down with a case, but before I take it off I want to know how safe it is.
For those of you with no screen protector, who has gotten a scratch, who hasn't, and how do you store your phone (pocket, purse, granite counter face down?)?
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So did you give it a few swipes with the knife and coin? This is pretty interesting. I hope it turns out more scratch resistant than we think.
So did you give it a few swipes with the knife and coin? This is pretty interesting. I hope it turns out more scratch resistant than we think.
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More than a few swipes. I took the edge of the penny and pressed hard against the glass, then moved it in small circles and then back and forth, all while maintaining pressure. Not like crack the glass pressure, but more pressure than the phone can apply with its own weight on an object. I did the same thing with the swiss key (Google "swiss key 6 in 1 knife" if you are curious what I am referring to) and once again no scratches. I tilted the screen to look at the reflections and ensure that not even faint scratches were left. The big "but" is that there were already a couple scratches on the screen, so in the week they had it up as a display model SOMETHING had to have scratched it.
Check out this lovely shot from my local T-Mobile. I didn't really notice this on any other phone.
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Check out this lovely shot from my local T-Mobile. I didn't really notice this on any other phone.
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I think I am going to stop by my local sprint store to see how their phone is holding up!
Wonder what caused those particular scratches? Sliding the metal clamp on?
I have a few scratches on mine even after babying it , when it gets gritty I'll wash it off in water shake the water off then hit it with the micro fiber and still managed to get tiny barely visible scratches . you would have to turn the screen at a certain angle for you to be able to see them but they are there ???
No case yet, full week of use and no scratches.
But she's to slippery for me to continue using without a case so I will be putting one on soon when it arrives
I lied in the poll
The screen is softer. Sure some metals will not scratch it, but sand will hand down ruin this phone. Be smart and get a cover for the front and back
I just put one a glass screen protector. Took about 2 hours for it to finally settle. Seems good so far. Box says it has 9H for hardness.
ricosuave88 said:
I have a few scratches on mine even after babying it , when it gets gritty I'll wash it off in water shake the water off then hit it with the micro fiber and still managed to get tiny barely visible scratches . you would have to turn the screen at a certain angle for you to be able to see them but they are there ???
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If you're using tap water, it's damaging the oleophobic coating. Tap water is full of hard substances including calcium. Ever seen what an old sink looks like? The tap water alone can be the issue.
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I bet even the case guys will have scratches on the back of their phones on the edges. My front screen is hokding up fine, back (on a case) already has scratches.
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I have a few scratches on mine even after babying it , when it gets gritty I'll wash it off in water shake the water off then hit it with the micro fiber and still managed to get tiny barely visible scratches . you would have to turn the screen at a certain angle for you to be able to see them but they are there ???
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I'm on the fence with a lot of these claims of having scratches and how people got them. To me, "babying it" and "when it gets gritty" don't go together at all. You baby it, but it gets dirty to the point where you have to wash it off?
For the record, I have mine in a Spigen case covering the back and naked on the front. I've been extra paranoid due to all the scratch hype, so I'm careful to keep it in empty pockets and not lay it face down on any hard surfaces. No scratches yet. Fingers crossed.