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2 days and screen scratched

Ordered it from Google on Tuesday and just started using it couple days ago. I baby my phone, never dropped it, always wiped with a clean cloth and I saw this when I looked at the screen under a lamp:
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To me it seems like the oleophobic coating is responsible. It's probably really soft and prone to scratches. Whatever the case, Samsung has really let me down. How could the rigidity of such a large screen get looked past QA when it can be scratched this easily? Anyways, just thought potential buyers be forewarned.

Been using it since December 2011. No scratches.

Did you look under a bright light? I have 2 other friends who also reported hair line scratches.
Do you have a screen protector? Do you use a carrying case? What do you wipe your screen with?

And this is why I always put a screen protector on my phone.

Man really weird I've had mine since Jan, would put it in pocket with keys and what not till I got a holster and I don't have one scratch. I guess it's really a hit or miss with the screen. I don't like running a screen protector sorry to hear
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krosemm said:
Did you look under a bright light? I have 2 other friends who also reported hair line scratches.
Do you have a screen protector? Do you use a carrying case? What do you wipe your screen with?
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Yes I've looked under a bright light.
No screen protector.
No carrying case.
I wipe my screen with a micro fiber cloth (I honestly don't need to wipe the phone much.. not a lot of fingerprints are on the phone due to the oleophobic.. it works great).
The only protection I use are cases (Case-Mate Tough Case [dont use this anymore], Otterbox Commuter [don't use it anymore], and now I use Ringke 4G LTE full time) with GSM Extended Battery.

No case no screen protector been using for 3 months now and not a flaw.

I have a ****load of scratches on mine. Owned it since January. I thought the screen would be comparable to gorilla glass, but I don't believe it is. One of my scratches is probably an inch long and perfectly vertical. Either way I I don't really care that much.

I'm been using my nexus for a bit over a month without a screen protector, and I don't have any scratches like that.
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I really don't see many caring about scratches that can only be seen under a bright light..

iil said:
I really don't see many caring about scratches that can only be seen under a bright light..
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yah i never understood this obsession with scratches, they are so minor that you can see them unless you are really trying.

2 days? Absurd!
I can scratch a screen in 2 seconds. Just hand me your phone, I will bring the tungsten carbide plated drill bit.
BTW: Leather case, 4 months, no scratches.

Valynor said:
2 days? Absurd!
I can scratch a screen in 2 seconds. Just hand me your phone, I will bring the tungsten carbide plated drill bit.
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My point was that it got scratched even when I cared so much for the phone. It seems to me like it got scratched from the lint in my pocket. I don't know about most people but that's alarming to me especially knowing I paid $400 for it.

krosemm said:
My point was that it got scratched even when I cared so much for the phone. It seems to me like it got scratched from the lint in my pocket. I don't know about most people but that's alarming to me when I paid $400 for this phone.
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You will find countless threads on this matter. Glass is relatively soft, even hardened glass. A lot of stuff can scratch it, the most common being simple dust particles (Quartz) which are readily available everywhere.
If you put your phone somewhere where it continually rubs against something -like your pocket- it will be scratched sooner or later. Basically as soon as a large enough Quartz particle makes its way into your pocket and on the screen.
So if you put a phone in your pocket without any protection, you didn't care enough for it. :-(

No case. No screen protector. Dropped once from a 6ft wall. Little ding in the corner.
Oh and I've had it since Dec. 15th.
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No scratches since Canadian launch in December

Been using it for about 3 months now and I have a few light scratches near the top and bottom, and a few REALLY REALLY REALLY light ones on the screen, nothing that is actually visible without looking really hard. If you want 0 scratches get a screen protector because you're bound to get scratches. No phone out there has a totally scratch resistant screen.
They are all made of a glass/plastic hybrid so little particles floating around or getting on your screen will probably scratch it, especially if you wipe it everyday, might be something on the screen while you whip it :/.
But yeah don't blame Samsung for the screen scratching, they never said it can't be scratched and no company can guarantee that.

same here, two days one little scratch, always used with care

I've been tossing my phone in my pocket with keys, lighter, etc etc since November 18 and haven't had a scratch...
If there's sand of any amount in your pocket your gonna have a bad time.
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I work outside in a dusty dry ass propane plant, I get all kinds of stuff on my hands and usually just wipe on my shirt and send a quick text and I use the underside of my shirt to wipe the screen while at work....
No scratches yet on mine.
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How well will my phone hold up against standard drops

I paid like $500 full price for the phone since I don't have a contract, I'm sorta super paranoid now especially after seeing all the drop test showing how fragile this device is.
http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-SA-30...4608&sr=8-3&keywords=galaxy+s3+incipio+faxion is my case and, I didn't want a slim TPU case since they don't really offer that much good drop protection & I didn't want an otterbox because they are too big http://www.amazon.com/ArmorSuit-Mil...55&sr=1-1&keywords=galaxy+s3+screen+protector is the screen protector I have otw.
How well do you think this combo will go against regular accidentally drops here and there since stuff happens, obviously not crazy insane drops.
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Drop test are all full of sh*t it depends of so many factors i have dropped mine from 4 foot and nothing on it again it depends how it lands ... speed .. case no case... what angle it has been dropped and so on..
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shahkam said:
Drop test are all full of sh*t it depends of so many factors i have dropped mine from 4 foot and nothing on it again it depends how it lands ... speed .. case no case... what angle it has been dropped and so on..
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yea but there have been so many done & the end result was that the S3 shattered

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I would get a ballistic maxxx for for max protection. Check out this drop test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07nwZapGL6E . It's a little bulky but will surely protect your s3.

I think you'll be fine. Two days after I got mine I was about to post an embarrassing photo and my friend grabbed it and ran full speed into a wall and it flew from his hand, hit a wall then tile, only result was a little chip in the plastic. I've dropped it naked a couple other times with nothing to report...

I'd vote in favour of a better lip but tbh, I'm not sure I wanna know how these things will take a drop.
I usually have a Seidio Surface case and holster for when I go out. Not as much protection as the active or an Otterbox but fairly compact, if having a case on is ever going to. Survived one drop at an odd angle near my dogs water bowl and landed on the edge of the case...much to my relief.

I have dropped my phone several times on my kitchen tiles from about a height a stove. Although there was no damage, I still ended up buying Ballistic 3G case jus to be on the safe side. From what I've heard, the corner edges are the weakest parts of this phone because of the glass curvature, I might be wrong on that.

I think you have a decent case on the phone that should withstand most drops just fine. I read that most damage from drops are due to the extremely fragile edges where the body and screen meet. That was a major factor when i chose this case. It is similar to yours; silicon cover and polycarbonate shell, but as you can see, it has slightly more protection around the edges.

Rileyrealz said:
I think you'll be fine. Two days after I got mine I was about to post an embarrassing photo and my friend grabbed it and ran full speed into a wall and it flew from his hand, hit a wall then tile, only result was a little chip in the plastic. I've dropped it naked a couple other times with nothing to report...
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Lmao sorry but I couldn't help laughing at that story
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so should I get a new case or just stick with this case?

Let me just say I've dropped mine several times and it's fine. Drop tests are kind of dumb unless a device is incredibly fragile. A lot of it depends on the surface you drop it on, and the angle it hits the ground at, you could shatter either the iPhone 5 or the GS3 by dropping it from pocket height on concrete if it hits the ground wrong.

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so should I get a new case or just stick with this case?
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That's a matter of preference. How comfortable are you with your current case? I'm guessing you have some doubts considering this thread.
And, since you're asking, personally, I would go with a different case. I also bought the phone off contract so I definitely understand the need to protect it as much as possible.

I feel like the back and side have good protection but I don't think the front lip is not high enough but it wouldn't really matter if it falls on a flat surface since it would hit the front ridges first right? I placed like a pen like across the phone n it touches the side ridges n not the phones glass, so there is a tiny gap
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garyx24 said:
I feel like the back and side have good protection but I don't think the front lip is not high enough but it wouldn't really matter if it falls on a flat surface since it would hit the front ridges first right? I placed like a pen like across the phone n it touches the side ridges n not the phones glass, so there is a tiny gap
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I say always good to have extra cases around.. just my personal opinion but why are you so worried ? Do you drop often your phones ?
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garyx24 said:
I feel like the back and side have good protection but I don't think the front lip is not high enough but it wouldn't really matter if it falls on a flat surface since it would hit the front ridges first right? I placed like a pen like across the phone n it touches the side ridges n not the phones glass, so there is a tiny gap
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Better safe than sorry when it comes to a $500 phone. Do you at least have insurance just in case?

No not really i don't drop it often but accidents do happen. My s2 died on a drop after a year of ownership, that phone never had a scratch on it n I only had a soft gel tpu case on it but last week when I dropped it from my table it went in a rebooting loop that I couldn't fix even when I tried to restore, flash back to stock rom etc so I conclude that drop on my s2 screwed up some internal hardware so that's why I got a medium end case for this s3 instead of the tpu slim case but eyyy idk lol
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No I bought it off cl so no insurance
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Get one of those sweet wallet chains and attach it to your belt.

garyx24 said:
so should I get a new case or just stick with this case?
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It really depends on your life style and where you work. I have a Otterbox defender, Oem Flip case, Oem leather pouch and I tpu case, my Otterbox is what I used the most,mail for my job (construction) the others I use when I plan not doing any big activities (sports), so it's really hard to say if you need another case or not, it just depends how confortable you feel,
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If you're worried add insurance to your plan.
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Scratches on your screen? Easy fix

While this is not a direct accessories for this phone it will work for this phone and any other . if you have light scratches or scuffs on your screen from normal use you can use the product below to fix most of them and go back to looking almost new . I figured it worker wonders on my paint I'd try it on my phone and was amazed how well it worked .
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I think I'll stick to not scratching my phone.

I dont know about that... car paints is different from glass. I believe that those rubbing compound are like very fine liquid sandpaper that cut the clear coat of the car and bond it.
OP post some results please.

If you're that confident in this fix, ut a fine scratch in your screen and apply it shown in a video.
I'm sure you will get tons of thanks if this is proven to work!

In a similar vein, toothpaste is meant to work quite well for removing fine scratches (on the basis it's very gently abrasive).
I tried it on a scratched watch face once...
The watch smelt very nice afterwards
(Had precisely zero effect on the scratch though)

Thanks for the tip. Is this really works?

surge27 said:
If you're that confident in this fix, ut a fine scratch in your screen and apply it shown in a video.
I'm sure you will get tons of thanks if this is proven to work!
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I have a video uploading of me applying this stuff to my screen of my HTC One, I am NOT going to purposely scratch the phone that is just stupid. This is to be used for removing small scuffs and scratches from pocket use ect, not gouges. Any scratch that a camera phone can visibly pick up is going to be way to deep.
One thing you guys fail to understand is that Gorilla Glass is FAR FAR FAR more durable than the clear coat of a car that this stuff was made for. When you make a product that fixes clear-coat it has to be some of the most soft gentle compounds that one can find used so that it does not chew or eat away at a clear coat. That is why it works just fine on glass.

rexxcastle said:
I have a video uploading of me applying this stuff to my screen of my HTC One, I am NOT going to purposely scratch the phone that is just stupid. This is to be used for removing small scuffs and scratches from pocket use ect, not gouges. Any scratch that a camera phone can visibly pick up is going to be way to deep.
One thing you guys fail to understand is that Gorilla Glass is FAR FAR FAR more durable than the clear coat of a car that this stuff was made for. When you make a product that fixes clear-coat it has to be some of the most soft gentle compounds that one can find used so that it does not chew or eat away at a clear coat. That is why it works just fine on glass.
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OK Here is Video 1 showing the application, I am uploading a 2nd vid to show as best i can the screen after ive rubbed it into the screen and wiped it off. Mind you i had already done this process once before i made the post... thus leading me to make the post.
Application http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTslMT9izCY&feature=youtu.be
After http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xALoP9XVEqI

if i had the product, i'd test it out on my og droid. How does this stuff work on actual car scratches? I have a few light scratches i wouldnt mind getting rid of. Maybe ill pick it up for that, and just see if it works on the droid lol

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if i had the product, i'd test it out on my og droid. How does this stuff work on actual car scratches? I have a few light scratches i wouldn't mind getting rid of. Maybe ill pick it up for that, and just see if it works on the droid lol
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it works great if you do not follow the directions. The directions want you ro rub it in, let it dry then rub it off. However from post and testing done in some of the automotive forums i am on it has been concluded that if you rub it in until there is nothing left to rub in then wipe it off it has better results. its done well on my car that had alot of scratches from previous owner. Best used with small micro fiber wax buffers that you can get 2-3 to a pack from Advance/Auto Zone. Sorry for going off the OP mods.

Seriously....Is this an ad?
P.s
If you scratched your new nexus 5 already you are the people who buy the big ugly otter mofo cases XD
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This seems like a terrible solution for one main reason, it will completely ruin the oleophobic coating on the screen. I am a car guy myself and swear by Meguiars for headlight and paint restoration. However, I would NEVER use this stuff on my phone...

sn0warmy said:
This seems like a terrible solution for one main reason, it will completely ruin the oleophobic coating on the screen. I am a car guy myself and swear by Meguiars for headlight and paint restoration. However, I would NEVER use this stuff on my phone...
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Im sure if we coated the screen every day it would, using it once a year once every few months in minor amounts isnt going to do anything. ive use it on alot of my phones over the last 2 years with no issues.

sn0warmy said:
This seems like a terrible solution for one main reason, it will completely ruin the oleophobic coating on the screen. I am a car guy myself and swear by Meguiars for headlight and paint restoration. However, I would NEVER use this stuff on my phone...
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Exactly my thought. Its like liquid sand paper.
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RedBlueGreen said:
Exactly my thought. Its like liquid sand paper.
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It's not like liquid sand paper. Not even close. It has a resin compound that FILLS IN the scratches. If it were like liquid sand paper, it'd just make more scratches witch you'd then have to buff out.
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jbrantley130 said:
It's not like liquid sand paper. Not even close. It has a resin compound that FILLS IN the scratches. If it were like liquid sand paper, it'd just make more scratches witch you'd then have to buff out.
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Way to bump a 2 year old post to post wrong information.
It is like liquid sand paper.
It has a higher abrasive index than some of megs' professional series polishing compounds.
It's an abrasive period. It just so happens to also have fillers in it.

Way to reply with wrong information...waaa waaa waaa
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]Will it work for the scratches in the side bezels of my white glossy Nexus 5

Great device - but far too easy to scratch

I have had the device for about three weeks. I love it. It's by far the best most comprehensive device I have ever owned... Except that it's 'faux' metal frame is far too easy to scratch. i amn already on my second device. The first one I had I returned to att because the "metal' got so scratched... in a spigen capsule case!
So I searched for a case that wouldn't mark the metal and bought the Samsung S view case, which is a really nice case. Low and behold, even though I have been incredibly careful, the metal is scratched again.
Is it just me?
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Faux metal? You realize that is aluminum which with daily use of the phone is going to scratch regardless of what you do. You are just going to have to get over it .

Yeah I can only speak out of my personal preference but I expect my device to get scratched. The only portion I'll get upset over will be the camera lens and the screen itself. With "normal use" of tossing it in and out of your pockets and on to whatever surface you make rest it in will cause some sort or scratches unless everything you wear is very soft material.
I have a pelican voyager case that I use when I'm doing something where I feel it may need more protection. Again this is only my view though.
I've heard via these forums of people complaining about many cases scratching the metal around the sides though so I'm sure if you find a nice case that doesn't a lot of people on here would love the info.

Quentin.Sheley said:
Yeah I can only speak out of my personal preference but I expect my device to get scratched. The only portion I'll get upset over will be the camera lens and the screen itself. With "normal use" of tossing it in and out of your pockets and on to whatever surface you make rest it in will cause some sort or scratches unless everything you wear is very soft material.
I have a pelican voyager case that I use when I'm doing something where I feel it may need more protection. Again this is only my view though.
I've heard via these forums of people complaining about many cases scratching the metal around the sides though so I'm sure if you find a nice case that doesn't a lot of people on here would love the info.
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I'm using Samsung case for over a month no scratches what so ever click on my name search for that case it's worth it.
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I really don't know what you guys are talking about. I have had the device for over a month without a case or screen shield. I don't have any scratches anywhere.

I've had mine since launch day with a soft case (one of those clear plastic ones that bend very easily) and the metal frame is full of scratches too!
So seeing how other people mention that they have no scratches at all, is it possible that some of us got "defective" phones? Is it possible that the aluminum of certain batches was of lower quality?
I thought this was "normal", I assumed that it happened to everyone, but now seeing that it's not I might consider getting a replacement. The reason I use cases, a part from protecting it if it falls, is to prevent scraches, since I plan on selling the phone at some point. So having all these scratches of course lowers its value.

cxyjordan said:
I really don't know what you guys are talking about. I have had the device for over a month without a case or screen shield. I don't have any scratches anywhere.
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+1

This is interesting. In talking specifically about the shiny metal band getting scratched and you have no scratches at all? Even under a light?
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This is interesting. In talking specifically about the shiny metal band getting scratched and you have no scratches at all? Even under a light?
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No scratches and I've had mine for over a month. I've found that most hard plastic cases do this to phones if you're taking them on and off a lot which is why I prefer a pouch style case or just a cloth case like for sunglasses. I really like the snugg wallet style cases, although there is not one for the note 4 yet, but there are ones like it. I also hate using a hard case because they are so bulky, I bought a thin phone for a reason! Also I try to treat my phone like a really expensive computer, which is what it is after all.

I've been using this case since I got the phone and well there's pretty much no way for it to get scratched...

Kyuta Syuko said:
I've been using this case since I got the phone and well there's pretty much no way for it to get scratched...
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Doesn't that cause the metal band to get micro scratches?
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Doesn't that cause the metal band to get micro scratches?
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I'm going to be honest I don't know because I've only taken it off once and didn't bother to examine the phone close enough to see micro scratches.

No scratches with Otterbox Commuter.
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cxyjordan said:
I really don't know what you guys are talking about. I have had the device for over a month without a case or screen shield. I don't have any scratches anywhere.
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+1. Agreed.
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I'm using Samsung case for over a month no scratches what so ever click on my name search for that case it's worth it.
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I have a nice case. I was just stating that people are lookin for a case. I don't use a case for my "daily driver" but if I did then I'd peek around but the Voyager is the beast I need when things are gonna get rough in my day.

This is actually pretty funny, I think it's the case itself causing your scratches!
I've put a tempered screen protector on front, and I cut out a square of film screen protector and put it on the camera lens. And then I just carry my phone (by itself) in my left pocket, it looks as new and shiny as ever, even the aluminum band!

I hope they charged you a restocking fee for taking back the phone because it was scratched. That's idiotic considering there are many factors as to why it could have happened. Get over it.

Android300ZX said:
I hope they charged you a restocking fee for taking back the phone because it was scratched. That's idiotic considering there are many factors as to why it could have happened. Get over it.
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Actually no they did not. I guess they value customer satisfaction.
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Android300ZX said:
I hope they charged you a restocking fee for taking back the phone because it was scratched. That's idiotic considering there are many factors as to why it could have happened. Get over it.
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I think it's more idiotic to hope for someone else's misfortune, specially when they have a point (even if you don't see it) and it's not affecting you in any way

I sell these all day and am a brand advocate for Samsung & there is definitely an issue with the finish. Not sure if it has to do with the batches but the trend seems to be that cases trap small pieces of dirt/lint/whatever and grind it in over time. If you don't use a case and you're gentle with it you'll be fine, but otherwise it's bound to show over time. IPhones do the same thing though, so it's sort of the price of finally having a metal housing

I am really rough on everything, and I haven't had any problems with scratches. No case or screen protector, and not a single scratch on a two month old phone (knock on wood). I keep my phone in a leather pouch when I'm out and about.
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Metal band and plastics?

Hi all, I spent a very long time working through the different watches, decided I didn't want the potential screen burn issues of the G watch R or the Zen watch (and I love the look of the zenwatch) and eventually decided I wanted the Smartwatch 3.
Then came the strap, I couldn't find the metal band anywhere and wanted both the silicone and the metal band so I've just received a new Smartwatch 3 with metal band with an idea to order a silicone strap later...
Anyway, nowhere did I read that the metal band contains plastic, does anybody else's or have I got a newer cheaper one? The strap is indeed metal and took a while to remove the pins to shorten the band but the part the watch goes into appears to be silver painted plastic....
If the others are like this how easy are they to scratch on the front? Am I going to end up with a £200 watch with scratches on it?
Cheers all

I wanted to start a new topic but I'm hijacking yours, because this morning my stainless steel SW3 had an unexpected encounter with a wall (not a bang though), and I scratched the part outside the watch core, which is indeed fu#king silver painted plastic.
I would have scratched it anyway, it was a mistake, but then...
I try to polish it with a nail polishing machine (with the dedicated thingy, which is like cloth... I don't know what's its name), and I didn't know it was plastic until I tried on the bottom (on a link) and it worked, so I thought "why not!" and I made a fu#king dent on the top.
Which of course is way more visible than the scratch in the first place.
I'm attaching pictures of before and after (they are not that detailed but you'll understand).
I'm going to write Sony about this as I'm pissed about this, they should have said it wasn't ALL stainless steel.
The same thing happened on my Z Ultra, where the borders appear to be aluminum (and Sony said so itself), where it's really silver painted plastic.
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Oh, the thing on the screen is a protective film, there's nothing wrong with the screen itself
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More pics of the inside without the core: it seems like the inner casing is made of plastic, including top and bottom bezels, where the left and right borders seems like steel.
The plastic inside is not painted, so it's pretty clear that the top is painted.
If you look closely you'll see several hinges, the plastic casing seems latched to those. And if you notice, hinges are present only at the sides.
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fastest83 said:
More pics of the inside without the core: it seems like the inner casing is made of plastic, including top and bottom bezels, where the left and right borders seems like steel.
The plastic inside is not painted, so it's pretty clear that the top is painted.
If you look closely you'll see several hinges, the plastic casing seems latched to those. And if you notice, hinges are present only at the sides.
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WTF? I don't even wanna buy it no more... Too bad, I was looking out for this band. Thanks for sharing. Please keep us updated with Sony's reaction.

djgodlike said:
WTF? I don't even wanna buy it no more... Too bad, I was looking out for this band. Thanks for sharing. Please keep us updated with Sony's reaction.
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No problems mate, I would have bought it anyway, and since I bought at like 20 euros more than the rubber version, I'm not feeling all that ripped off to be fair.
I just wish they were clear about this particular thing, and I would have paid more for the whole watch in steel.
Seeing the inside, it's clear they could have engineered a simple way to keep the bottom part of the inside casing plastic made (to ensure no harm is done to the core when you swap bands), and the top all in steel.
It could have been done, and it would have costed like 50 cent more (for them) while charging it a premium price (for us).
Anyway, I wrote to the Italian customer care, and as they obviously won't know anything, I will bother other regions like UK/US as well until someone answers.
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What a pure let down. Can the platic holder be replaced?

supac said:
What a pure let down. Can the platic holder be replaced?
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I think it can, but it's yet to see if they'll supply the part to the general market or keep it to the self for the eventual warranty repair...
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All metal isn't the best thing either. I had the LG g watch r and that thing scratched so easy. That's the main reason I sold it for the sw3.
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fr0st420 said:
All metal isn't the best thing either. I had the LG g watch r and that thing scratched so easy. That's the main reason I sold it for the sw3.
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Let's differentiate from metal to metal... The LG G R is black metal, which is a pain in the arse to polish, while the SW3 is (at least the band is) stainless steel, satin metal. You can polish it like a thousand times and it will still look good.
That would be the case, if it was all metal.
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It has certainly adjusted what I would be willing to pay for the metal strap to go on my SW3. As soon as it was announced I wondered how they were going to get the watch module to fit in a rigid stainless steel surround. I just assumed it would have a nylon or polycarbonate insert.
I wonder if there is some sort of protective coating that could be applied to the plastic bit to protect it from scratching without spoiling the look.

I have the 'metal' smartwatch 3 as well...
Unfortunately, there would be no way to have it all metal!
The radios wouldn't work... GPS / NFC / Bluetooth, would all really stop working if the top and bottom parts were also metal and not plastic.
Just worth keeping that in mind.
Yeah, it's a bit crappy, but I'm still more than happy with it.

tony_reilly said:
I have the 'metal' smartwatch 3 as well...
Unfortunately, there would be no way to have it all metal!
The radios wouldn't work... GPS / NFC / Bluetooth, would all really stop working if the top and bottom parts were also metal and not plastic.
Just worth keeping that in mind.
Yeah, it's a bit crappy, but I'm still more than happy with it.
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I don't agree with that. The screen is not made of metal, so there's plenty of space for gps/nfc/bluetooth waves to go out of there. I'd rather have an all plastic core.
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You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.

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You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.
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You know what? I didn't know that! OK, I'd prefer having the plastic core than, it would be less exposed to scratches...
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I was a little taken aback when I noticed it was plastic as well and my first thought was scratches to!
I'm going to keep an eye out for a silver permanent marker in a similar shade, so if it gets scratched I should be able to just 'paint' over it.
Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Permanent-Markers-Metallic-39108PP/dp/B00009RAX4

tony_reilly said:
You know how LCD screens work right? Especially the Transreflective one in the SW3? It is backed by a silver / metal lining to reflect the light outwards, so putting the radios behind the screen won't work either! If they put an p-oled in there (like the GwatchR), then that might work, but not with the current screen tech.
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So how come the NFC sensor is in the middle of the screen?
And there is a bezel that varies from about 2mm to 5mm in width on the front face that isn't metal.
Is the back of the watch module metal or painted plastic? I'm not willing to scratch it to find out.

dingbatt said:
So how come the NFC sensor is in the middle of the screen?
And there is a bezel that varies from about 2mm to 5mm in width on the front face that isn't metal.
Is the back of the watch module metal or painted plastic? I'm not willing to scratch it to find out.
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The back of the watch module is definitely metal.
Anyway, incredibly enough, Sony Italy has replied to me, saying that the watch is all metal but that metal get scratched too.
I replied posting a pic of the scratched part, let's see if they deny it again.
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fastest83 said:
The back of the watch module is definitely metal.
Anyway, incredibly enough, Sony Italy has replied to me, saying that the watch is all metal but that metal get scratched too.
I replied posting a pic of the scratched part, let's see if they deny it again.
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That is shocking! It is obvious it is plastic just by feel (and tapping it) without even scratching it I cannot believe they would try and deny it....
Anyway, had mine for about a week now and haven't scratched it just yet but I have knocked it a couple of times and panicked, mine screen protectors haven't arrived yet.

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That is shocking! It is obvious it is plastic just by feel (and tapping it) without even scratching it I cannot believe they would try and deny it....
Anyway, had mine for about a week now and haven't scratched it just yet but I have knocked it a couple of times and panicked, mine screen protectors haven't arrived yet.
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They eventually (after I posted the pic) admitted the part around the core unit is "high quality plastic".
I wonder, if this is high quality, something low quality would have fallen off the watch just by looking at it.
They told me to bring it to service under warranty, and I think I'll do that just if they let me keep the core unit (I have 2 spare bands).
When I have the time, I'll send it in and keep you posted (even though I think I'll end up with nothing, since it was my mistake).
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