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Hi,
I see we can get the ZE551ML with two Intel variants : Z3560 1.8GHz and Z3580 2.3GHz. I think the cheapest version would have plenty of power for my usage (no games or very simple ones like 2048 ...), I merely like to browse the web when I'm outside (other than use the phone to phone !).
But the ZD551KL gets a Qualcom S615 with 8 cores and slower speed. Does anyone know how it compares to the former?
And about SIM cards, do both of these phones allow to "listen" for incoming calls on both SIMs at the same time? My goal would be to put personal and professionnal phone lines, and I just NEED to get incoming calls from both lines, not enable one at a time ... (don't understand the principle of standby dual sim)
Thanks
sierramike said:
Hi,
I see we can get the ZE551ML with two Intel variants : Z3560 1.8GHz and Z3580 2.3GHz. I think the cheapest version would have plenty of power for my usage (no games or very simple ones like 2048 ...), I merely like to browse the web when I'm outside (other than use the phone to phone !).
But the ZD551KL gets a Qualcom S615 with 8 cores and slower speed. Does anyone know how it compares to the former?
And about SIM cards, do both of these phones allow to "listen" for incoming calls on both SIMs at the same time? My goal would be to put personal and professionnal phone lines, and I just NEED to get incoming calls from both lines, not enable one at a time ... (don't understand the principle of standby dual sim)
Thanks
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If you intend to use both sims, do not get the ZE551ML, Asus used subpar hardware on sim2 and is only capable of 2G with data blocked. 2G is being phased out and is already being shut down. In about a years time you will be left with a single sim phone. It's not only about speed but what hardware they are using. You can have the best processor in the world however if it is connected to subpar and outdated hardware it means nothing.
Also Asus never updated their OS at all, just their firmware. Which is nice they push out updates, but I'm finding their constant updates are to fix the problems they created with the last update.
Find another phone, there are plenty of companies out there offering dual sim with up to date hardware in the same price range.
Hi, thanks for your answer, could you point me some samples ? I did a lot of research but couldn't find anything else featuring a Full HD 5,5" screen with 4Gb of RAM with a decent camera and dual sim for EUR 249 ...
Help, Root Zenfone Selfie ZD551KL???
I don't think it's the right place to ask this ...
Just do searches and go through everything. Amazon, Aliexpress. Being in France you're open to a wide range of phones because of your bands over the United States. If you just search Dual Sim 4G LTE 64gb or even 32GB you will see tons come up. You don't really need 64GB as long as you can put a data card in the phone, a 32GB will work just fine as I move apps over to the card to free up space anyway. The Allview X2 looks great, I wish it had our US bands on it.
The allview X2 soul has no NFC, no LTE, only 2Gb RAM, only 5" display, only one SIM, so definitely not suitable. The X2 xtreme is bigger with its 6" display and has plenty of options, but prices almost twice the cost of the ZE551ML I can find locally ...
sierramike said:
The allview X2 soul has no NFC, no LTE, only 2Gb RAM, only 5" display, only one SIM, so definitely not suitable. The X2 xtreme is bigger with its 6" display and has plenty of options, but prices almost twice the cost of the ZE551ML I can find locally ...
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That is the wrong model. Allview has different models and the one I'm talking about is the X2 Xtreme which does have LTE,NFC and has a 6inch display. Here the price is about same as the zenphone. Since we are in different areas, our prices are going to be different. You need to do a search and you'll find the different models out there.
First of all, to make it clear, the phone you are looking for has to have two modems (this is what makes phone "dual sim active" or "dual sim full active" one), and unfortunatelly Zenfone Selfie doesn't meet that requirement.
On the other hand, it's a fact that ZE551ML does not support data transfer on second SIM slot (which is a bit awkward since Intel XMM 2230 - the second modem, does support EDGE).
In fact there are very little number of models with DSFA and 4G on both SIMs. For now I can think of Lenovo Vibe X2-CU as the affordable one, and maybe Huawei Mate 7 and P8 (but, with those you have to chose whether to use second SIM or SD card).
So the HTC 10 does have a listing on amazon that comes with a US warranty and is listed as in stock. One of the sellers is NGP store USA. It says get it by May 2-5 with expedited shipping.
On their site they are selling the 10, the GSM bands and everything matches up with HTC.com, but they do offer gold with a white face as one of the color options which isn't an option on HTC site. I tried calling them today but I got a recording saying it was after business hours (even though they're in Seattle and it's 3:30 there). I'm going to ask if it comes with a US warranty and of course if they'll price match HTC.com
Anyway has anybody ordered a HTC 10 from them? Or purchased a past device from them?
For anyone interested,
http://ngpstoreusa.com/product/htc-10-factory-unlocked-gsm
I don't know anything about them but you do lose the $100 discount so the price is higher despite the other color options.
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Heisenberg420 said:
So the HTC 10 does have a listing on amazon that comes with a US warranty and is listed as in stock. One of the sellers is NGP store USA. It says get it by May 2-5 with expedited shipping.
On their site they are selling the 10, the GSM bands and everything matches up with HTC.com, but they do offer gold with a white face as one of the color options which isn't an option on HTC site. I tried calling them today but I got a recording saying it was after business hours (even though they're in Seattle and it's 3:30 there). I'm going to ask if it comes with a US warranty and of course if they'll price match HTC.com
Anyway has anybody ordered a HTC 10 from them? Or purchased a past device from them?
For anyone interested,
http://ngpstoreusa.com/product/htc-10-factory-unlocked-gsm
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This is the description posted for their phones:
DOES NOT WORK with CDMA carriers (Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular etc). Nano SIM; ONLY 3G works with GSM carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile etc.). 4G LTE does not work in USA.
• 5.2 inches Super LCD5 capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
• Dual-core 2.15 GHz & Dual-core 1.6 GHz, Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 CPU
• 32 GB Internal Storage, 4 GB RAM
• Camera (Main): 12 MP, f/1.8, 26mm, OIS, laser autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash; Camera (Front): 5 MP.
It looks like it is no good in the US if you want 4G LTE ....
nuvision said:
This is the description posted for their phones:
DOES NOT WORK with CDMA carriers (Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular etc). Nano SIM; ONLY 3G works with GSM carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile etc.). 4G LTE does not work in USA.
• 5.2 inches Super LCD5 capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
• Dual-core 2.15 GHz & Dual-core 1.6 GHz, Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 CPU
• 32 GB Internal Storage, 4 GB RAM
• Camera (Main): 12 MP, f/1.8, 26mm, OIS, laser autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash; Camera (Front): 5 MP.
It looks like it is no good in the US if you want 4G LTE ....
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Where are you seeing this?
This is what I am seeing under the HTC 10:
CPU Chipset: Snapdragon 820
Storage: 32GB, Micro SD slot
RAM: 4GB
Network Band:
2G/2.5G – GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/900/1800/1900 MHz,
3G UMTS, 850/AWS/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30
Those are the same LTE bands the HTC 10 has on HTC.com
Either way I wouldn't order before I call and confirm it works with at&t.
Heisenberg420 said:
Where are you seeing this?
This is what I am seeing under the HTC 10:
CPU Chipset: Snapdragon 820
Storage: 32GB, Micro SD slot
RAM: 4GB
Network Band:
2G/2.5G – GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/900/1800/1900 MHz,
3G UMTS, 850/AWS/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30
Those are the same LTE bands the HTC 10 has on HTC.com
Either way I wouldn't order before I call and confirm it works with at&t.
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I was looking at the information regarding the gold/white version:
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-5-2-Inch-Unlocked-International-Warranty/dp/B01EADQ6DC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1461887566&sr=8-15&keywords=htc+10+phone+unlocked
they are selling for $685, why would anyone buy from them?
Just got an email back from them, it's an Asian model. They assured me it does work with at&t though. It doesn't come with a US warranty and they won't price match HTC with the 100 off discount because they are very aware of the backorder situation HTC is dealing with. They do have it in stock and ships from US though.
I'm passing on it purely because of the warranty situation. For the last year I've owned a phone off warranty that now has hardware failure so I won't be making that mistake again.
I don't trust NGPstoreusa
Heisenberg420 said:
So the HTC 10 does have a listing on amazon that comes with a US warranty and is listed as in stock. One of the sellers is NGP store USA. It says get it by May 2-5 with expedited shipping.
On their site they are selling the 10, the GSM bands and everything matches up with HTC, but they do offer gold with a white face as one of the color options which isn't an option on HTC site. I tried calling them today but I got a recording saying it was after business hours (even though they're in Seattle and it's 3:30 there). I'm going to ask if it comes with a US warranty and of course if they'll price match HTC
Anyway has anybody ordered a HTC 10 from them? Or purchased a past device from them?
For anyone interested,
Bought an unlocked S7 Edge SM-G935FD from NGPstoreusa this week and they sent me a different model SM-G9350 (China; Sanpdragon 820 chipset) while I ordered a Exynnos 8990 chipset. Tried contacting them but their phone always goes to voicemail and their email response takes a day for them to review.
They have such an elaborate automated voice recording but in the end, it will always goes to voicemail. I think they are trying to send me the wrong model thinking I don't know the difference.
I can't trust this online store.
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www.ngpstoreusa.com Recently my a grandmum Sending the mobile in India Samsung S22 ultra unlocked factory green color So I'm waiting for a long time regarding this product when I get this product of time fedex I see that is Samsung S21 ultra Chinese product So that is your scam company you scam the money and you send the wrong product the people
Don't trust this company or website
ngpstoreusa.com scam I am buy Samsung S22 ultra unlocked factory green color So when I get this product of time fedex I see that is Samsung S21 ultra Chinese product So that is your scam company you send the wrong product the people
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LeEco Le Pro 3
Official Photos
Specs: From the Official LeEco Shop Website (Original Specs in Chinese, Used Translator so expect few weird terms)
http://www.lemall.com/cn/phone/lepro3/zymb/parameter.html#a2
physical dimension
151.4x73.9x7.5mm (L * W * H)
Weight 175g
Color and Technology:
Le Pro3 4GB + 32GB version
Force Gold / Modern Korea gold / silver Jazz
Back shell blasting process
Le Pro3 4GB + 64GB version of Zhang Yimou
Force Gold / Modern Korea gold / silver Jazz
Back shell with gold wax polishing process
(jazz silver sand blasting process)
Le Pro3 6GB + Edition 64GB
Force Gold / Gold Modern Korea / big coffee gray
Back shell with gold wax polishing process
Le Pro3 6GB + 128GB version of Zhang Yimou
Force Gold / big coffee gray
Back shell with gold wax polishing process
Note: Due to the presence of mold tolerances, it does not mean that every music Pro3 are as thin as 7.5mm
storage
LPDDR4 4GB + 32 GB flash memory (ROM) UFS2.0
LPDDR4 4GB + 64 GB flash memory (ROM) UFS2.0 (Zhang Yimou Edition)
LPDDR4 6GB + 64 GB flash memory (ROM) UFS2.0
LPDDR4 6GB + 128 GB flash memory (ROM) UFS2.0 (Zhang Yimou Edition)
screen display
Size: 5.5 inches
PPI: 403
Gamut: 80% of the ultra-high NTSC
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 pixels
Brightness: 500nit
Touch program: Full bonded In-Cell capacitive screen
Rear camera
16 million effective pixels
Camera Maximum resolution: 4608 * 3456
Camera maximum recording capacity: 4K / 1080P @ 30fps
Slow recording capacity: 720P @ 120fps
6P lens, F2.0 large aperture, PDAF, pixel isolation technology, HDR
Color temperature flash, back-illuminated CMOS
Front camera
8,000,000 pixels
1.4μm Big Pixel
F2.2 large aperture
76.5 ° super wide-angle lens
processor
SD 821 processor
Single-core speeds up to 2.35 GHz
Adreno 530 graphics processor
Network standard
Full version Netcom 4G mobile 4G (TDD-LTE) / Unicom 4G (TDD-LTE / FDD- LTE) / Telecommunications
4G (TDD-LTE / FDD- LTE) The LTE-FDD: B1 / 2/3/4/5 /. 7 /. 8/20
the TDD the LTE-: 38/39/40/41
3G mobile 3G (TD-SCDMA) / Unicom 3G (WCDMA) / Telecom 3G (CDMA2000) WCDMA: B1 / 2/4/5/8 TD-SCDMA: B34 / 39; EVDO: BC0 / BC1
2G mobile 2G / Unicom 2G (GSM) / Telecommunications 2G (CDMA1X) GSM: 2/3/5/8; CDMA: BC0 / BC1
NOTE: Dual SIM blind plug
Support Mobile / Unicom / Telecom 4G + / 4G / 3G / 2G.
2 telecom cards can not be used simultaneously.
Dual card use: any SIM card optional 4G network, another for the GSM network / CDMA 1x network.
Wireless connections
2.4G / 5G dual-band WLAN 802.11a / b / g / n / ac with 2-stream MU-MIMO technology
Bluetooth 4.2
Support Wi-Fi Display, Wi-Fi direct, AP hotspots
Supports full-featured NFC, support card readers, writing cards, card emulation mode and P2P
(Note: The card emulation subsequent OTA upgrade support)
sensor
Fingerprint recognition
Infrared remote control
Gravity sensor
Three-axis gyroscope
Electronic compass
Light sensor
Proximity sensor
Hall Sensor
Navigation and positioning
GPS / AGPS positioning
GLONASS positioning
Beidou
Type-C Digital Audio
CDLA * Full support for standard (full digital lossless audio)
Note *: Continual Digital Lossless Audio
multimedia
Support video decoding formats:
H.265 (HEVC), H.264, H.263, MPEG-4, MPEG-2, VP9, VP8
Support video file formats:
MP4,3GP, 3GP2, MKV, AVI, ASF, Xvid, Ts, Webm
Support audio decoding format:
AAC / AAC + / eAAC +, MP3, AMR, MIDI, PCM, OGG, FLAC, AC3 / EAC3, DTS-HD
Supported audio file formats:
AAC, MP3, WAV, AMR, FLAC, MIDI, OGG
Support Audio:
Dolby Atmos
operating system
EUI 5.8 based Android M
battery capacity
4070mAh (typ)
SIM card
Dual SIM Nano SIM card supports two
Tips:
1. Do not use NANO + card sets, hand-cut cards, non-standard card, otherwise it will cause damage to the deck and did not know the card, SIM card can not be removed.
2. Do not plug the card in the boot state.
interface
Type-C Interface
packing list
Host computer
Power Adapter
Headphone adapter
Data cable
Mobile Phone Cases
Card pin
Three Guarantees certificate
Quick Start Guide
Teardown : The Le Pro 3 is easy to take apart.The tools you’ll need aren’t more than a screwdriver set and a little heat to melt the glue that holds the front glass in place.
Price (Currently Only in China): 6GB RAM and 64GB storage will retail at just 1999 Yuan ($300)!
4GB RAM + 32GB variant retails for just 1799 Yuan ($270)!
There are 2 special editions of "The great wall" movie : 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM model retails for 2499 Yuan ($375)!
6GB RAM + 128GB model retails for 2999 Yuan ($450)!
Again waiting for more updates on International Shipping Prices.
Official LeEco Shop: http://www.lemall.com/
Updates #1
Video Unbox & Review in English:
Updates #2
Root and TWRP :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/leeco-le-pro-3-root-t3476560
Support QC 3.0, got B20 800 MHz LTE, big battery and 64GB UFS 2.0 for 300 bucks. Even for 350€ I will buy it. Say goodbye to Xiaomi!
By the way, rhe bootloader is not a problem. This phone with CM and I think I find the perfect phone for 2016.
Just the camera is not good, like Mate 8 and OnePlus 3, also no information about OIS but I really don't care, cuz orice and hardware is ?
Do we have any idea if this will support T-Mobile LTE?
4G FDD-LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD-LTE: 38/39/40/41
3G WCDMA: 1/2/4/5/8
3G TD-SCDMA: B34/39 (EVDO:BC0/BC1)
2G GSM: 2/3/5/8 (CDMA: BC0/BC1)
So full EU support ?
The LeEco Le Pro 3 vs the Xiaomi Mi 5S
http://techwanderer.com/xiaomi-mi-5s-vs-leeco-le-pro-3
Anyone have a link to the store where the price is about $ 270 for 4/32 version? On the website below price is $ 339.99.
http://www.letvmobilestore.com/buy-letv-mobile/le-pro-3.html
Anyone have a link to the store where the price is about $ 270 for 4/32 version? On the website below price is $ 339.99.
http://www.letvmobilestore.com/buy-l.../le-pro-3.html
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This is not the Official Company's Shop Website, This is http://www.lemall.com/
acerec said:
Anyone have a link to the store where the price is about $ 270 for 4/32 version? On the website below price is $ 339.99.
http://www.letvmobilestore.com/buy-letv-mobile/le-pro-3.html
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Oppomart 299 for 4GB/32GB. It's +30 bucks from china price, what is more than fair but I will wait for 64GB on Gearbest. I think you will get it for about 350$.
Aliexpress Tranding One will got the best price but they sad "wait few days, I will check"
Klanac89 said:
Oppomart 299 for 4GB/32GB. It's +30 bucks from china price, what is more than fair but I will wait for 64GB on Gearbest. I think you will get it for about 350$.
Aliexpress Tranding One will got the best price but they sad "wait few days, I will check"
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Can you send me a link when you find to a good store with a good price, please.
Just wait for Gearbest or Tranding One @aliexpress. Geekbuying got also the device on pre sale but I will never order again at Geekbuying.
Klanac89 said:
Just wait for Gearbest or Tranding One @aliexpress. Geekbuying got also the device on pre sale but I will never order again at Geekbuying.
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I bought many times from them, but every time I paid extra large customs even though item was undervalued. In short, undervaluation of the item does not reduce in any way the amount of duty.
First one
http://s.aliexpress.com/QbEN3eQj
(from AliExpress Android)
32GB starts at 292€.
http://www.xiaomitoday.com/leeco-le-pro-3-review-cheap-flagship-at-its-best/
Review
http://www.honorbuy.com/960-leeco-le-pro-3-64gb-smartphone-gold.htm
Highest price and no information but listedl
I just ordered mine, 6gb / 64gb (for 385$) From AliExpress , I didn't go with the 128gb because i didn't think i need it that much (it costs extra 150$) with all the cloud options these days to backup, I added few bucks for the fast DHL shipment. If everything goes well i'll get it in 2 weeks time.
LeEco only open the kernel source, do not open the device tree .
And there haven't any cm Roms with leEco device.
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This phone with CyanogenMod 14... fire!
For the Le Pro 2 (or Le Max 2?) we get perfect working CM13, so I hope this will happen on the Le Pro 3.
I will wait because I will not use it with LeCrap UI.
http://www.honorbuy.com/960-leeco-le-pro-3-64gb-smartphone-gold.html
379$ + shipping for 6GB/64GB and only gold... no information, when it will be shipped :/
Klanac89 said:
This phone with CyanogenMod 14... fire!
For the Le Pro 2 (or Le Max 2?) we get perfect working CM13, so I hope this will happen on the Le Pro 3.
I will wait because I will not use it with LeCrap UI.
http://www.honorbuy.com/960-leeco-le-pro-3-64gb-smartphone-gold.html
379$ + shipping for 6GB/64GB and only gold... no information, when it will be shipped :/
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can you give me a cm-13 rom link of le pro 2 or le max 2.
or some cm 13 source code link.
If I buy in oppomart, does it have Google play service?
I have been waiting to get my hands on the Mate 20X 5G model for a while. It is now becoming more widely available around the world (Kuwait, UAE, Finland, Switzerland and China and the UK by the end of July as the T-ban has been partially lifted, Lol). Here are all the key differences between the ORIGINAL version and the 5G variant and some are very disappointing. I think I will skip this version and wait for the Mate 30X or the Mate X.
In the meantime, if anyone has bought the new 5G model, you can update the thread with more information.
Model Number: EVR-N29 International Version/EVR-N00 Asia Version
THE GOOD NEWS:
Networks: 2G-4G on original vs 2G-5G SA/NSA on the 5G model
RAM: 8GB identical to the memory size of the China version with 8GB/256GB
ROM: 256GB identical to the memory size of the China version with 256GB/8GB
GooglePlayStore: Included on the original International model vs also included on the 5g model (except the Asia variant which does not include GooglePlayStore)
Charging: 40W Super Charge vs 22W Super Charge on the original.
Wireless Charging: Included (according to unboxing videos online, but not 100% confirmed) vs Not Included on any of the Original variants
Colour: Emerald Green vs 2 colours on the original (Good for some and possibly bad for some)
NOW THE BAD, THE REALLY BAD NEWS:
Battery: 4200mAh vs 5000mAh on the original
Headphone Jack: No Headphone Jack vs the Original with the Headphone Jack and 3.5mm headphones (5g model comes with Type C headphones)
Speakers: Single Stereo Speaker only (top speaker has been removed) vs Dual Stereo Speakers on the original variants
Damn so many downgrades.
Wont be surprised if the the reason is to put 5g antennas.
I wouldn't change the Mate 20 X for the 5g variant for only one reason : Stereo Speakers... Dangg, this phone is loud ! ?
Here is the official spec sheet:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/phones/mate20-x-5g/specs/
Link to a YouTube Unboxing Video of the 5G Model:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hQFyaiXgus
filip_pine said:
I would change the Mate 20 X for the 5g variant for only one reason : Stereo Speakers... Dangg, this phone is loud !
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Both the original and the 5g model has stereo sound but on the 5g model they have reduced the number of speakers from 2 to 1 (top speaker missing).
AWFRONT said:
Both the original and the 5g model has stereo sound but on the 5g model they have reduced the number of speakers from 2 to 1 (top speaker missing).
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I know, that's why i said i wouldn't change the original Mate 20 X for the 5G variant...
Rumors about Mate 30 X?
An Global 8GB/256GB was kinda nice, but damn i didn't know about the single speaker and no headphone jack. No 5G model for me than. This is indeed more an downgrade.
Please suggestion: buy that no 5g or wait for 30 X?
last_nooby said:
Please suggestion: buy that no 5g or wait for 30 X?
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I'd wait for 30 X (hopefully there will be one). 5G will take at least a year or two to become universal.
High price in Germany, it will be €1000. Also ''NOW THE BAD, THE REALLY BAD NEWS''
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Panorama-Thema-233992/News/Huawei-Mate-20-X-5G-Release-1293604/
any news if it can be rooted - flashed ? tnx
is the 5G varient going to be any faster than the EVR-AL00 model with 8/256, when it comes to daily use, or is it going to be the same speed but. just be faster when it comes to surfing the web/ downloading content and streaming? Cause if my daily useage is getting improved then I may step up but, if im not seeing an improved when it comes to using the phone other than that then ill just stick to the OG version.
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tentator said:
any news if it can be rooted - flashed ? tnx
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Ooh, really good question. I wanna know the answer to that as well.
baskinrobbin said:
I'd wait for 30 X (hopefully there will be one). 5G will take at least a year or two to become universal.
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Totally agree. With these spec reductions and the crazy price tag, we are better off waiting for (hopefully) a Mate 30X with Android or ArkOS or whatever it may be called(BTW, I like the new camera setup on the Mate 30 Pro that has been shown on some renders this week)
If Mate 30X is not released in time, I will just wait for Microsoft to (hopefully) release the Surface phone in January with Android compatibility and the Hybrid Windows 10 OS for mobiles. That I think would be the ultimate phone setup. This I think would be the most credible chance for Microsoft to remain relevant in the mobile space again and offer a good alternative to IOS and Android systems.
Phaze1585 said:
is the 5G varient going to be any faster than the EVR-AL00 model with 8/256, when it comes to daily use, or is it going to be the same speed but. just be faster when it comes to surfing the web/ downloading content and streaming? Cause if my daily useage is getting improved then I may step up but, if im not seeing an improved when it comes to using the phone other than that then ill just stick to the OG version.
Daily use (speed etc…) should be the same as the only addition is a 5G modem (simply for accessing 5g SA/NSA bands) and the removal of some really important features such as the 3.5mm jack, reduction in battery size and the removal of the top speaker. If you can live with these then I would say then you can step up but I would say if 5g is not really important then wait until Mate 30x or another alternative comes. Don't forget IFA 2019 is just around the corner and other brands that are aware of Huawei's success with the original Mate 20x may want to tap into its success model. I must say I had my hopes high for the Mate 20X 5g but now my only option is to either go for Mate X as my first 5G phone or wait for Mate 30x which should have integrated CPU with 5G in-built unlike the 2 chips that are separately positioned on the new Mate 20X 5G. Due to the space management, Huawei appears to have made some serious compromises.
Personally, with 5g rolling out, I would want my next phone to be 5g so that I don't have to think about changing my phone for the next 2-3 years at least. Then hopefully 5g and folding phones will be more common.
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Phaze1585 said:
is the 5G varient going to be any faster than the EVR-AL00 model with 8/256, when it comes to daily use, or is it going to be the same speed but. just be faster when it comes to surfing the web/ downloading content and streaming? Cause if my daily useage is getting improved then I may step up but, if im not seeing an improved when it comes to using the phone other than that then ill just stick to the OG version.
Daily use (speed etc…) should be the same as the only addition is a 5G modem (simply for accessing 5g SA/NSA bands) and the removal of some really important features such as the 3.5mm jack, reduction in battery size and the removal of the top speaker. If you can live with these then I would say then you can step up but I would say if 5g is not really important then wait until Mate 30x or another alternative comes. Don't forget IFA 2019 is just around the corner and other brands that are aware of Huawei's success with the original Mate 20x may want to tap into its success model. I must say I had my hopes high for the Mate 20X 5g but now my only option is to either go for Mate X as my first 5G phone or wait for Mate 30x which should have integrated CPU with 5G in-built unlike the 2 chips that are separately positioned on the new Mate 20X 5G. Due to the space management, Huawei appears to have made some serious compromises.
Personally, with 5g rolling out, I would want my next phone to be 5g so that I don't have to think about changing my phone for the next 2-3 years at least. Then hopefully 5g and folding phones will be more common.
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Solid response. Thank you.
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The biggest problem in the end could be if this variant will result to be impossible to root or flash with lineageOS IMHO...
Is the china al00 5g or not 5g
Also: will there be soon a separate thread in the forum or will it be in common with the non 5G Mate X 20?
stestesteste said:
Is the china al00 5g or not 5g
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The Only 5G Models are:
EVR-N29 International Version 5G Comes with GooglePlayStore/Google Services Preloaded
EVR-N00 Asia Version 5G No GooglePlayStore/Google Services
The above models are only offered in 8GB/256GB RAM/ROM combinations and only offered in Emerald Green Colour and has 5G printed on the back cover.
All other models/variants are NOT 5G. For example; EVR-L29 is the 6GB/128GB for international markets, EVR-AL00 is the China Version with no GooglePlayStore and is offered in 6GB/128GB and 8GB/256GB variants.
Hi there,
As a Samsung China fan, I know a lot about chinese version Samsung phones ; however I live in France so I also know a lot about the most common version of Samsung phones which are the international variants.
So, let's talk about chinese version Note10+ which has some pretty cool features that we can find nowhere else (btw I will get one in december when I go back to China so this thread is only about specs)
In China, Samsung only provides Note10+ 5G version, the model number is SM-N9760 which is a snapdragon variant. You may think that it is just the same as US version Note10+ 5G with a different software, but it is not exactly the case :
First thing is 9760 is the only Note10+ 5G in the world with dual sim card support. Second is that since Galaxy S10 series, Samsung flagships sold in China are the only in the world that support L1+L5 dualband GPS and 9760 is no exception.
In the box, Samsung provides a transparent case and a 6-month screen replacement reduction (only usable in china)
On software side, 9760 is also different from international version as the CSC it runs (CHC) has many features you may want to use even elsewhere than in China ; let me talk about the new additionnal features on 9760 (I will make another post about the CHC software improvements later) :
Bixby gets a new function exclusive to China that is Bixby Touch (but I have to test it to know if it only works in Chinese or if it is available in other languages) : you just have to long press on any screen to get shortcuts to related apps or services : for example, if someone send you a message with an address, a long press will let you open the maps app directly from there without having to copy/paste or doing any other action.
Samsung Pay gets a new smart door card function, which can let user access their building with just their smartphone.
Of course, it has all the other features from CHC rom that I'll detail on a later post.
And for those who want to know about the occidental services that are also supported, I also have the answer :
Google Play services are preinstalled ; by default, they're not activated but to get Google apps, you just need to download a play store apk and it will work just fine.
Instagram mode works : I tried it on a smaller version Note 10 in China, you just have to install Instagram and clear camera data and it will work just as on international version.
You get your local Galaxy Store because the phone region is defined by your sim card.
However, some features won't work or not completely : for example, Samsung Health will only sync if you have a chinese samsung account and you won't be able to compete with people using non-chinese Samsung Health app
I do NOT know if Samsung Pay works with non chinese cards but I will try it when I get 9760.
You cannot get the "Secure Wifi" feature as well as international version of smart call.
Finally there is no ROM you can flash because 9760 is actually a Chinese-exclusive variant (but that may change if Taiwan gets 5G model)
Personnally I think Chinese Note10+ 5G is the best variant you can find ;
Snapdragon 855, L1+L5 dual-band GPS, Dual-SIM, some cool exclusive features and the ability to use all the features we already use and love... for a cheaper price tag as it is sold in China cheaper than 4G variants in Europe...
Hello, also from France and currently in China I have bought the sm-n9760 in a Samsung shop in Shanghai. So I'm able to answer/confirm some infos there.
First, yes it comes with Google services pre installed, under a VPN I transfered through smart switch my data's and so on (containing my needed VPN apk) on this phone and then added through settings Samsung and Google accounts (while connected to my VPN). Google chrome and calendar couldn't be transfered by smart switch and play store wasn't installed. Downloaded play store apk with Firefox. All worked fine and then I used the play store to install chrome and agenda, all syncing and working without flaw.
Yes it is 5g dual SIM and less expensive than other variants at least the the European ones (paid 7999 RMB = 1040 euros and got a free jbl Bluetooth speaker sold normally at 800 RMB = 104 €)
It has bixby touch as said and it works in your language set in your settings. French for me then.
It does come with a well made silicone case and a factory applied plastic screen protector.
I can also confirm for the 6 month screen replacement and the whole warranty is valid in mainland China only. So if you have any problem not concerning the screen make it repaired in your country and for the screen ship to China. (Advice from the Samsung employee in the shop).
There is a setting about the smart building function but haven't tried it out. Also the Samsung employee told me that Samsung pay will only work with Chinese card. Considering that they use a different card system (not Visa or MasterCard but union pay which exists only in China) I assume it is true.
I don't use Instagram so no info on that.
I have been able to uninstall every Chinese pre installed apps just like I uninstall any app without problem.
No info on Samsung health for now. I'm still in China and don't compete with others. Back in France in a week so more infos later.
I'll give a look for the GPS on the spec sheet on Samsung website for this maybe.
Their 5g version support band that is intended for the French market (3500 MHz). But well no real deployed 5g in France before 2022. For now 350 antennas deployed in France by all operators (including 300 by one only) whereas in China, China mobile alone have deployed 200 000 and is just starting it's network. Also China mobile offered me 100 GB on 5g just to try. Thanks to them as I just paid a 100 RMB (13 €) prepaid sim card for 2 months.
I also have an "hongbao accelerator" as setting option but haven't gave a look yet.
If you have any question don't hesitate I'll do my best to answer.
What LTE bands does it have?
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What LTE bands does it have?
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4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1750~1765), B3(1765~1780), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)
4G TDD LTE
B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500~2690)
5G TDD Sub6
N41(2500), N78(3500), N79(4500)
Source : https://www.samsung.com/cn/smartphones/galaxy-note10/specs/
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Wondering how is galaxy store compared to other competitors like huawei in China. What is the reason of the downfall of Samsung in China
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Wondering how is galaxy store compared to other competitors like huawei in China. What is the reason of the downfall of Samsung in China
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My Chinese friend told me that Galaxy store was previously banned and that she had to download apk straight from various sites and therefore got quite a lot of viruses and ****. After that she bought Apple for long and now she hesitate to buy Huawei to support the national brand. However now the Galaxy store 8s no longer banned but it seems way more empty than appgallery of Huawei (had a Chinese honor phone before).
It may not be the only reason but it is the one I've been given.
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So Samsung is basically killed by China government. China only allow local developers' apps available in phone. If no China developers create apps for galaxy store, no one will buy Samsung phone.
Exactly same thing happened to Huawei now when US banned Huawei from using Google play.
xIf22raptorIx said:
Hello, also from France and currently in China I have bought the sm-n9760 in a Samsung shop in Shanghai. So I'm able to answer/confirm some infos there.
First, yes it comes with Google services pre installed, under a VPN I transfered through smart switch my data's and so on (containing my needed VPN apk) on this phone and then added through settings Samsung and Google accounts (while connected to my VPN). Google chrome and calendar couldn't be transfered by smart switch and play store wasn't installed. Downloaded play store apk with Firefox. All worked fine and then I used the play store to install chrome and agenda, all syncing and working without flaw.
Yes it is 5g dual SIM and less expensive than other variants at least the the European ones (paid 7999 RMB = 1040 euros and got a free jbl Bluetooth speaker sold normally at 800 RMB = 104 €)
It has bixby touch as said and it works in your language set in your settings. French for me then.
It does come with a well made silicone case and a factory applied plastic screen protector.
I can also confirm for the 6 month screen replacement and the whole warranty is valid in mainland China only. So if you have any problem not concerning the screen make it repaired in your country and for the screen ship to China. (Advice from the Samsung employee in the shop).
There is a setting about the smart building function but haven't tried it out. Also the Samsung employee told me that Samsung pay will only work with Chinese card. Considering that they use a different card system (not Visa or MasterCard but union pay which exists only in China) I assume it is true.
I don't use Instagram so no info on that.
I have been able to uninstall every Chinese pre installed apps just like I uninstall any app without problem.
No info on Samsung health for now. I'm still in China and don't compete with others. Back in France in a week so more infos later.
I'll give a look for the GPS on the spec sheet on Samsung website for this maybe.
Their 5g version support band that is intended for the French market (3500 MHz). But well no real deployed 5g in France before 2022. For now 350 antennas deployed in France by all operators (including 300 by one only) whereas in China, China mobile alone have deployed 200 000 and is just starting it's network. Also China mobile offered me 100 GB on 5g just to try. Thanks to them as I just paid a 100 RMB (13 €) prepaid sim card for 2 months.
I also have an "hongbao accelerator" as setting option but haven't gave a look yet.
If you have any question don't hesitate I'll do my best to answer.
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Hey, thanks for the answer
Just wondering, does it have the native radio app ?
Too bad Samsung Pay doesn't work (but I will still get a try ), fortunately Google Pay is still available
The dual band GPS is not mentioned in the spec sheet but if I remember it was mentioned in S10 Chinese unpacked
Apart from the Hongbao accelerator you also have many features such as fingerprint lock and some exclusive apps like the Samsung assistant that basically replace every app you use in your daily life
I hope the 5G deployment won't be too slow in France but even if not I will be happy with chinese version as even without 5G, it brings a lot more for cheaper price.
xIf22raptorIx said:
My Chinese friend told me that Galaxy store was previously banned and that she had to download apk straight from various sites and therefore got quite a lot of viruses and ****. After that she bought Apple for long and now she hesitate to buy Huawei to support the national brand. However now the Galaxy store 8s no longer banned but it seems way more empty than appgallery of Huawei (had a Chinese honor phone before).
It may not be the only reason but it is the one I've been given.
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I don't think so, Galaxy Store was already available when Samsung had a quite respectable market share in China. The store has every popular app Chinese users usually install ; the main problems for Samsung in China is Note 7, Huawei and aggressive competition from Chinese companies...
torickray said:
Wondering how is galaxy store compared to other competitors like huawei in China. What is the reason of the downfall of Samsung in China
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There are three main reasons for Samsung poor market share in China :
First is Note 7, even today, when people talk about Samsung, people instantly think about explosion
Second is an agressive competition from Chinese brands : they deliver lots of innovative products for a very low price... It's almost always the same, Snapdragon 855, triple camera setup with IMX586 and Samsung Amoled display packed into a metal frame and glass back with gradient color, at the lowest price possible and with the fastest charge possible.
The thing is Samsung never plays with specs sheets, but Chinese customers care most about high numbers ; when they see Note10+ has "only" a 12MP camera, they will think it's worse than a budget phone having a 32MP camera...
And remember foreign compagnies have to pay more taxes for their products so Samsung phones are a lot more expensive than chinese phones, even though they are cheaper than the rest of the world
The last thing is Samsung has a bad image because of Note7 and because of Huawei... Huawei has very good public relations with Chinese government, so when they have a bad buzz it is almost always eliminated from weibo in the shortest time, whereas when Samsung has a bad buzz such as Galaxy Fold issues or fingerprint scanner issues, it will immediatly become #1 in trends, and it is almost sure that's because of Huawei.
So those are the reasons why Samsung has only 1% market share in China, hope that this will change in the coming years but I doubt this will happen
FRBonvoyage said:
Hey, thanks for the answer
Just wondering, does it have the native radio app ?
Too bad Samsung Pay doesn't work (but I will still get a try ), fortunately Google Pay is still available
The dual band GPS is not mentioned in the spec sheet but if I remember it was mentioned in S10 Chinese unpacked
Apart from the Hongbao accelerator you also have many features such as fingerprint lock and some exclusive apps like the Samsung assistant that basically replace every app you use in your daily life
I hope the 5G deployment won't be too slow in France but even if not I will be happy with chinese version as even without 5G, it brings a lot more for cheaper price.
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Hey, sorry for late answer, with plane and all I've been quite busy lately.
I attach the photo of the embedded radio app (name in Chinese), hope it'll answer your question.
For Samsung pay I can't try it out anyway because my (French) bank isn't compatible yet.
I didn't find out what is hongbao accelerator used to.
China mobile gave me free 5g to try it out, I had it sometimes but the throughputs weren't as expected (see below).View attachment 4859993
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I was so disappointed when I found out that note10+ 5G wasn't dual sim until I found out this thread! Where can I buy this phone to use in the UK/Europe?
Thanks
Did anyone try RCS ? For me it stucked on setting up screen !
EnterTHEvoiD said:
I was so disappointed when I found out that note10+ 5G wasn't dual sim until I found out this thread! Where can I buy this phone to use in the UK/Europe?
Thanks
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Easier way, go to China and buy it there.
You can also buy it from various websites I suppose like eBay or whatever (based in what I read) but I don't know if sim lock is still existing and in this case be sure that it is sim unlocked.
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Did anyone try RCS ? For me it stucked on setting up screen !
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What app are you using there ?
Anyway, from what I know RCS is mobile operator dependant so it may be linked to them. (It's a supposition). I haven't tried out because I don't think signal support RCS.
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EnterTHEvoiD said:
I was so disappointed when I found out that note10+ 5G wasn't dual sim until I found out this thread! Where can I buy this phone to use in the UK/Europe?
Thanks
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000296371224.html
This seller confirmed its dual sim and seller rating is good.
niza2000in said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000296371224.html
This seller confirmed its dual sim and seller rating is good.
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Thanks man, I've seen them for sale on geekbuying website too
Hi is this model CSC working globally...? means you bought this phone from china and is VOLTE and WIFI calling working with your french network...?
french network...? Yes. Check yourself:
"Support 5G/4G/3G/GPS/Bluetooth/OTG/Type-C/Screen fingerprint ID/NFC
Networking:
2G GSM B2/B3/B5/B8,
3G WCDMA B1/B2/B4/B5/B8, TD-SCDMA B34/B39
4G FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28, TDD-LTE B34/B38/B39/B40/B41
5G TDD Sub6: N41/N78/N79"
France is likely to delay its 5G spectrum auction until at least March 2020!
FRBonvoyage said:
Hi there,
As a Samsung China fan, I know a lot about chinese version Samsung phones ; however I live in France so I also know a lot about the most common version of Samsung phones which are the international variants.
So, let's talk about chinese version Note10+ which has some pretty cool features that we can find nowhere else (btw I will get one in december when I go back to China so this thread is only about specs)
In China, Samsung only provides Note10+ 5G version, the model number is SM-N9760 which is a snapdragon variant. You may think that it is just the same as US version Note10+ 5G with a different software, but it is not exactly the case :
First thing is 9760 is the only Note10+ 5G in the world with dual sim card support. Second is that since Galaxy S10 series, Samsung flagships sold in China are the only in the world that support L1+L5 dualband GPS and 9760 is no exception.
In the box, Samsung provides a transparent case and a 6-month screen replacement reduction (only usable in china)
On software side, 9760 is also different from international version as the CSC it runs (CHC) has many features you may want to use even elsewhere than in China ; let me talk about the new additionnal features on 9760 (I will make another post about the CHC software improvements later) :
Bixby gets a new function exclusive to China that is Bixby Touch (but I have to test it to know if it only works in Chinese or if it is available in other languages) : you just have to long press on any screen to get shortcuts to related apps or services : for example, if someone send you a message with an address, a long press will let you open the maps app directly from there without having to copy/paste or doing any other action.
Samsung Pay gets a new smart door card function, which can let user access their building with just their smartphone.
Of course, it has all the other features from CHC rom that I'll detail on a later post.
And for those who want to know about the occidental services that are also supported, I also have the answer :
Google Play services are preinstalled ; by default, they're not activated but to get Google apps, you just need to download a play store apk and it will work just fine.
Instagram mode works : I tried it on a smaller version Note 10 in China, you just have to install Instagram and clear camera data and it will work just as on international version.
You get your local Galaxy Store because the phone region is defined by your sim card.
However, some features won't work or not completely : for example, Samsung Health will only sync if you have a chinese samsung account and you won't be able to compete with people using non-chinese Samsung Health app
I do NOT know if Samsung Pay works with non chinese cards but I will try it when I get 9760.
You cannot get the "Secure Wifi" feature as well as international version of smart call.
Finally there is no ROM you can flash because 9760 is actually a Chinese-exclusive variant (but that may change if Taiwan gets 5G model)
Personnally I think Chinese Note10+ 5G is the best variant you can find ;
Snapdragon 855, L1+L5 dual-band GPS, Dual-SIM, some cool exclusive features and the ability to use all the features we already use and love... for a cheaper price tag as it is sold in China cheaper than 4G variants in Europe...
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Hi is this model CSC working globally...? means you bought this phone from china and is VOLTE and WIFI calling working with your french network or outside china VOLTE and WIFI calling working...?
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xIf22raptorIx said:
Hello, also from France and currently in China I have bought the sm-n9760 in a Samsung shop in Shanghai. So I'm able to answer/confirm some infos there.
First, yes it comes with Google services pre installed, under a VPN I transfered through smart switch my data's and so on (containing my needed VPN apk) on this phone and then added through settings Samsung and Google accounts (while connected to my VPN). Google chrome and calendar couldn't be transfered by smart switch and play store wasn't installed. Downloaded play store apk with Firefox. All worked fine and then I used the play store to install chrome and agenda, all syncing and working without flaw.
Yes it is 5g dual SIM and less expensive than other variants at least the the European ones (paid 7999 RMB = 1040 euros and got a free jbl Bluetooth speaker sold normally at 800 RMB = 104 €)
It has bixby touch as said and it works in your language set in your settings. French for me then.
It does come with a well made silicone case and a factory applied plastic screen protector.
I can also confirm for the 6 month screen replacement and the whole warranty is valid in mainland China only. So if you have any problem not concerning the screen make it repaired in your country and for the screen ship to China. (Advice from the Samsung employee in the shop).
There is a setting about the smart building function but haven't tried it out. Also the Samsung employee told me that Samsung pay will only work with Chinese card. Considering that they use a different card system (not Visa or MasterCard but union pay which exists only in China) I assume it is true.
I don't use Instagram so no info on that.
I have been able to uninstall every Chinese pre installed apps just like I uninstall any app without problem.
No info on Samsung health for now. I'm still in China and don't compete with others. Back in France in a week so more infos later.
I'll give a look for the GPS on the spec sheet on Samsung website for this maybe.
Their 5g version support band that is intended for the French market (3500 MHz). But well no real deployed 5g in France before 2022. For now 350 antennas deployed in France by all operators (including 300 by one only) whereas in China, China mobile alone have deployed 200 000 and is just starting it's network. Also China mobile offered me 100 GB on 5g just to try. Thanks to them as I just paid a 100 RMB (13 €) prepaid sim card for 2 months.
I also have an "hongbao accelerator" as setting option but haven't gave a look yet.
If you have any question don't hesitate I'll do my best to answer.
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Hi I have one more clarification, i am planing to buy this phone..Is this SM-N9760 version working dual sim with SD card at a same time via SIM adapter.
Recently Samsung block this feature on all international version, if phone detect dual sim plus SD card then you cannot enter to phone..Screen will be locked...So i am wonder in Chinese version its working or not.
Also please clarify VOLTE and Wifi calling outside china..? or it restrict only only to China...
Thanks in advance.