Develop Bugs

[Q] Has anyone got the tech specs on the NFC chip in the Nexus 4 ?

I'm tempted by the new Nexus 4 but Id like to know the specifications on the NFC chip inside before I commit to buying it.
Is there anywhere that has in-depth tech specs on the device ?

Screen 4.7” 1280×768 (320ppi)
WXGA, HD IPS+
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2
Size H: 5.27 in (133.9 mm)
W: 2.7 in (68.7 mm)
D: 0.36 in (9.1 mm)
Weight 0.31 lbs (139 g)
Cameras Main: 8MP BSI sensor, 1080p video
Front: 1.3MP, 720p video
Face recognition
Memory 8GB or 16GB (formatted capacity will be less)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro 1.5GHz (Adreno 320 GPU)
RAM 2GB
Sensors Accelerometer, Compass, Ambient light, Proximity, Gyroscope, Pressure, GPS
Network Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42 Mbps
Wireless Wireless display on a Miracast compatible HD TV
Dual-band Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n)
Bluetooth
NFC (Android Beam)
Power Wireless charging (use any Qi-compatible charger)
2,100 mAH Li-polymer battery
Standby: up to 250 hours
Talk time: up to 10 hours
Music playback: up to 40 hours
Video playback: up to 8 hours
Web browsing: up to 7 hours
OS Android Jelly Bean (4.2)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
-- http://techcrunch.com/
As far as I know, there aren't any "specs" on NFC-chips.

It uses the BCM20793 http://www.broadcom.com/products/NFC/NFC-Solutions/BCM2079x-Family
This is somewhat worrying/interesting - pretty much every other NFC-enabled Android phone uses NXP's chips. What if this guarantees that network SIM-based payments won't be compatible?

mifare
LoveNFC said:
It uses the BCM20793 http://www.broadcom.com/products/NFC/NFC-Solutions/BCM2079x-Family
This is somewhat worrying/interesting - pretty much every other NFC-enabled Android phone uses NXP's chips. What if this guarantees that network SIM-based payments won't be compatible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Broadcom nfc chips support multiple Secure Elements in one device. (competition for ISIS and Google?)
Devices with a broadcom nfc chip probably can't read/write Mifare Classic tags. Other (mifare) nfc tags wil be no problem.

Yeah, since they didn't use an NXP chip, the Nexus 4 (and Nexus 10) will not read/write Mifare Classic 1K NFC Tags (because technically they don't adhere to the NFC Forum specifications). The bummer on that is the next best option is the NTAG 203 which has about 1/5 the memory but cost more. The good news is the memory is enough for most task launching NFC apps to do most things you'd want. The bad news is it's often not enough to create a Vcard. The other next best option are the Topaz 512byte chips, but they are significantly more expensive.
I just found this out the hard way when one of my customers contacted me about his Mifare 1K tags that weren't working with his Nexus 4. I'm having new tags manufactured in the NTAG format but the Mifare 1K are still best for most people since there's no such thing as too much memory if the cost is the same or less.

hollywoodfrodo said:
Yeah, since they didn't use an NXP chip, the Nexus 4 (and Nexus 10) will not read/write Mifare Classic 1K NFC Tags (because technically they don't adhere to the NFC Forum specifications). The bummer on that is the next best option is the NTAG 203 which has about 1/5 the memory but cost more. The good news is the memory is enough for most task launching NFC apps to do most things you'd want. The bad news is it's often not enough to create a Vcard. The other next best option are the Topaz 512byte chips, but they are significantly more expensive.
I just found this out the hard way when one of my customers contacted me about his Mifare 1K tags that weren't working with his Nexus 4. I'm having new tags manufactured in the NTAG format but the Mifare 1K are still best for most people since there's no such thing as too much memory if the cost is the same or less.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Desfires are also an option for more space (1k, 2k, 4k) they are just not as widely available currently.

Hello, MIFARE 1K is work on my Nexus 4, read/write, use NFC Tack Launcher.

Does anyone know if they can read / write basic ISO 14443 A and B Cards / Tags?

brium13 said:
Hello, MIFARE 1K is work on my Nexus 4, read/write, use NFC Tack Launcher.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't actually write to the NFC, but the task launcher remembers the tag and assigns a function to it
I want to write a tag, that can be read by both the galaxy s3 and the nexus 4 to check in on Facebook. Can I write one with the n4, and is the n203 capable enough? Seems a little low memory for a check in data string.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Does anyone know what NFC standards the BCM20793 in the Nexus 4 supports? Broadcom doesn't actually post the datasheets for their products online.

ShensMobile said:
Does anyone know what NFC standards the BCM20793 in the Nexus 4 supports? Broadcom doesn't actually post the datasheets for their products online.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the Broadcom chip is NFC Forum type 1-4 compliant, which means it's able to use all NFC tag types Topaz, Mifare Ultralight C, Mifare S50 and the UPM Ntag. What it is NOT compatible with are the Mifare Classic NFC tags.
The NXP PN65 chip which is on most devices OTHER than Nexus 4 and 10 is able to use 1 additional NFC type which is Mifare Classic. Mifare Classic is actually the thing that's NOT NFC Forum compliant.
The new Samsung S4 also ships with a Broadcom chip so it's likely it's also not compatible with Mifare Classic tags.

Cheap Topaz 512 NFC Tags for Samsung Galaxy S4
Reached this thread searching for Cheap Topaz 512 NFC Tags for my S4 and did a little more research
Tagger was giving a pack of 10 for $10(ca) + Free Shipping on Black-Friday, I think they will be repeating the same deal on Cyber Monday Sale
Regular price is $24.95 / 10
BuyNFCtags is selling the stickers and cards for as low as $0.80 + Economy $2.04 Shipping
Identivenfc is selling Blank NFC Tags - Type 1 for $1.25 + Shipping
Tagstand is selling Type 1 NFC Sticker - Topaz - Square (45mm x 45mm) for $2.10 each + Shipping
Everywhere else I found the Topaz 512 NFC Tags to be $2 or more

Innjoo Launch in Kenya

The recent patnership between Jumia Kenya and Chinese mobile device manufacturer Innjoo has resulted in the launch of the Innjoo Note smartphone for the first time in the Kenyan market.
The Innjoo Note comes with a 5.5′ HD IPS 1280×720 display, front and rear cameras, the rear camera with 13MP and capable of shooting 1080p Full HD videos, a Quad-core processor and Dual SIM flexibility. Other features include a 3000mAh battery, bluetooth, Wi-Fi and GPS.
Retail pricing for the Innjoo Note was announced at Kshs 12,000 by Jumia Kenya’s MD Parinaz Firozi.
Other Innjoo devices launched exclusively on Jumia include the Innjoo T1 7″ tablet with Dual SIM and 3G connectivity at Kshs 9,999 and the Innjoo F2 10.1″ tablet with Dual SIM and 8GB storage at Kshs 10,999.
This launch follows the launch of the Infinix Hot X507which is is at the time of writing being offered exclusively on Jumia Kenya at half price; Kshs 6,999 down from the normal price of Kshs 16,000. The smartphone was the latest product introduced into the Kenyan market by the Hong Kong firm Infinix. Infinix is a joint venture company between between Mobiwire (former French firm Sagem wireless) and Chinese company Earning Way.

Looking to buy ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML)

I've been looking on website for the past days trying to find a ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML) when I look at the specifications it says it has a Intel Atom Quad Core Z3560 (1.8 GHz) processor not been able to find the (2.3 GHz) processor anywhere is this a mistake the websites have made?
Does anyone know where to purchase the (2.3 GHz) variant in the UK or dealers who ship to the UK? Also is the 32G device sold with 2.3Ghz
If so is there a real difference between the 2.3Ghz and the 1.8Ghz ??

try darty.com i can see they sell in france, not sure if they are shipping to uk, or do they have stores in UK.

The 2.3 is only in the 64GB version.

Trotter516 said:
The 2.3 is only in the 64GB version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah I see then I'm guessing most people got them missed up, I was watching many reviews and they said 32GB with the 2.3Ghz, Couple Amazon reviews said they got 32GB with 2.3Ghz

masne said:
try darty.com i can see they sell in france, not sure if they are shipping to uk, or do they have stores in UK.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, Yeah just a little confused still according to this website its 32GB, 2.3GHz

Trotter516 said:
The 2.3 is only in the 64GB version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That depends on where it is from. For example, there are both 64 and 32 GB versions with the 2.3 GHz cpu here in Japan.
As for the OP's question regarding whether there is a real difference, I believe the gpu, cpu architecture and base clock of the 3560 and 3580 are identical. The difference is just in the Max boost frequency under load. I doubt there is much notable difference in everyday use - a bit faster for heavy tasks, at the expense of a bit heavier battery drain?

kanagawaben said:
That depends on where it is from. For example, there are both 64 and 32 GB versions with the 2.3 GHz cpu here in Japan.
As for the OP's question regarding whether there is a real difference, I believe the gpu, cpu architecture and base clock of the 3560 and 3580 are identical. The difference is just in the Max boost frequency under load. I doubt there is much notable difference in everyday use - a bit faster for heavy tasks, at the expense of a bit heavier battery drain?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My phone is from ASUS.fr and is 32gb , 4gb ram and 2.3ghz and WW of course.

I am posting this in hopes that it will help others to pick the right model for them. If any of the info is incorrect, let me know. I put this together based on my extensive research prior to purchasing the version I have. Asus really screwed up on this phone with the various confusing versions and even the name of the phone being Zenphone 2.
For example, I have the TW based version and its 2.3ghz with 4 gigs of ram and 32 gig storage.
(ZE551ML) 2.3 ghz with either 32gig or 64 gig and 4 gb of Ram (Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3580, PowerVR G6430) - with a 1080 HD IPS Display (403ppi)
(ZE551ML) 1.8 ghz with 32gig and 2 or 4 gb ram (Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560, PowerVR G6430) - 1080 HD IPS Display (403ppi)
(ZE550ML) 1.8 ghz with 16gig and 2 gb ram (Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560, PowerVR G6430) - 1080 HD IPS Display (267ppi)
NOTE that the 2.3 ghz version is the only one compatible with Quick Charge capabilities. The 18W BoostMaster adapter is included with 2.3GHz/4GB ZenFone 2 model only.. Asus states that the phone will quick charge to 60% in no more than 39 minutes.
Here are the different versions available on the market (that I know of)
TW = Taiwan
WW = World Wide
CN/IN = China and India
US = USA
JP = I have not been able to find much info on this as the JP (Japan) version is just starting to show up
These are the LTE Bands from the ASUS website to help make sure you get the correct one for your area/carrier:
4G :
FDD-LTE: (TW)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/900MHz(8)/700MHz(28)
FDD-LTE: (WW)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (US)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/700MHz(17)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (CN/IN)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)
TDD-LTE: (CN/IN)
2600MHz(38)/1900MHz(39)/1900MHz(40)/1900MHz(41)
Also I have confirmed that the phone can take a 128gb micro SD card even though it says 64gig MicroSD on the Asus web site. I took the 128gig MicroSD card out of my Note 4 and tried it in the Zenphone 2 and it worked perfect!

mcmikelw said:
NOTE that the 2.3 ghz version is the only one compatible with Quick Charge capabilities. The 18W BoostMaster adapter is included with 2.3GHz/4GB ZenFone 2 model only.. Asus states that the phone will quick charge to 60% in no more than 39 minutes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't think that's right, as according to the spec sheet on the Asus site even the ZE550ML (720p with 1.8 GHz processor) supports fast charging with boost master adapter (not included)

kanagawaben said:
Don't think that's right, as according to the spec sheet on the Asus site even the ZE550ML (720p with 1.8 GHz processor) supports fast charging with boost master adapter (not included)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know for a fact that the 1.8 ghz 4 gb of ram ZE551ML version does not support fast charging as I had that unit and had to sell it because of that reason alone. I am not sure about the ZE550ML, can someone that has that unit confirm so I can update my post?
Thanks

If you are in the UK, then you can purchase from the European Amazon sites.
Italian amazon appears to be the cheapest, they have the 32gb 2.3ghz 4gb ram version for EUR345, which comes out under £250 with shipping.
Also, this is sold directly by amazon, so if you have issues you are covered by amazon returns policy.
I bought the phone from there, and it turned up the next day.
Unfortunately it had a fault (see my thread for details) so had to get a replacement. But that was simple enough with the aid of google translate.
If i had imported from China i would not have been happy!
Hopefully my fault was a one off, and the replacement will be a good as i would expect from the specs.

I got mine from eBay but got the 1.8 4Gb ram 32gb version ordered mine on Tuesday 12th may and came 2day
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using XDA Free mobile app

mcmikelw said:
I know for a fact that the 1.8 ghz 4 gb of ram ZE551ML version does not support fast charging as I had that unit and had to sell it because of that reason alone. I am not sure about the ZE550ML, can someone that has that unit confirm so I can update my post?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the 550 but I don't have a boost master charger to test it with, unfortunately.

l3msip said:
If you are in the UK, then you can purchase from the European Amazon sites.
Italian amazon appears to be the cheapest, they have the 32gb 2.3ghz 4gb ram version for EUR345, which comes out under £250 with shipping.
Also, this is sold directly by amazon, so if you have issues you are covered by amazon returns policy.
I bought the phone from there, and it turned up the next day.
Unfortunately it had a fault (see my thread for details) so had to get a replacement. But that was simple enough with the aid of google translate.
If i had imported from China i would not have been happy!
Hopefully my fault was a one off, and the replacement will be a good as i would expect from the specs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, looking around I found a couple other cheaper dealers.
NA release tomorrow
Price$199 for Z3560/16GB, $299 for Z3580/64GB
Comes to about £190 seems reasonable

nachashh said:
Thanks, looking around I found a couple other cheaper dealers.
NA release tomorrow
Price$199 for Z3560/16GB, $299 for Z3580/64GB
Comes to about £190 seems reasonable sadly gonna have to buy an adapter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
which site? Ive taken a look at newegg shop, but no zenfone 2 in their shop?

Rene_ajax said:
which site? Ive taken a look at newegg shop, but no zenfone 2 in their shop?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...51ml_23_4g64gn_rd_zenfone_2_ze551ml_64gb.html
Sadly not really a point for me I'd end up paying much more in shipping and taxes.

This is 1.8ghz who I bought mine off ordered on 12th got it on 18th
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Zenf...453?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aea08126d
2.3ghz
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-ZenF...296?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a2c83e88
Another 2.3
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-Zenf...103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d3117d47f
Also one who I bought mine off the 1st post I never paid customs or anything dpd picked it up from airport and it worldwide version (ww) works on Vodafone 4g in uk
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using XDA Free mobile app

ZE551ML and ZD551KL (Selfie), how do they compare in processor speed?

Hi,
I see we can get the ZE551ML with two Intel variants : Z3560 1.8GHz and Z3580 2.3GHz. I think the cheapest version would have plenty of power for my usage (no games or very simple ones like 2048 ...), I merely like to browse the web when I'm outside (other than use the phone to phone !).
But the ZD551KL gets a Qualcom S615 with 8 cores and slower speed. Does anyone know how it compares to the former?
And about SIM cards, do both of these phones allow to "listen" for incoming calls on both SIMs at the same time? My goal would be to put personal and professionnal phone lines, and I just NEED to get incoming calls from both lines, not enable one at a time ... (don't understand the principle of standby dual sim)
Thanks

sierramike said:
Hi,
I see we can get the ZE551ML with two Intel variants : Z3560 1.8GHz and Z3580 2.3GHz. I think the cheapest version would have plenty of power for my usage (no games or very simple ones like 2048 ...), I merely like to browse the web when I'm outside (other than use the phone to phone !).
But the ZD551KL gets a Qualcom S615 with 8 cores and slower speed. Does anyone know how it compares to the former?
And about SIM cards, do both of these phones allow to "listen" for incoming calls on both SIMs at the same time? My goal would be to put personal and professionnal phone lines, and I just NEED to get incoming calls from both lines, not enable one at a time ... (don't understand the principle of standby dual sim)
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you intend to use both sims, do not get the ZE551ML, Asus used subpar hardware on sim2 and is only capable of 2G with data blocked. 2G is being phased out and is already being shut down. In about a years time you will be left with a single sim phone. It's not only about speed but what hardware they are using. You can have the best processor in the world however if it is connected to subpar and outdated hardware it means nothing.
Also Asus never updated their OS at all, just their firmware. Which is nice they push out updates, but I'm finding their constant updates are to fix the problems they created with the last update.
Find another phone, there are plenty of companies out there offering dual sim with up to date hardware in the same price range.

Hi, thanks for your answer, could you point me some samples ? I did a lot of research but couldn't find anything else featuring a Full HD 5,5" screen with 4Gb of RAM with a decent camera and dual sim for EUR 249 ...

Help, Root Zenfone Selfie ZD551KL???

I don't think it's the right place to ask this ...

Just do searches and go through everything. Amazon, Aliexpress. Being in France you're open to a wide range of phones because of your bands over the United States. If you just search Dual Sim 4G LTE 64gb or even 32GB you will see tons come up. You don't really need 64GB as long as you can put a data card in the phone, a 32GB will work just fine as I move apps over to the card to free up space anyway. The Allview X2 looks great, I wish it had our US bands on it.

The allview X2 soul has no NFC, no LTE, only 2Gb RAM, only 5" display, only one SIM, so definitely not suitable. The X2 xtreme is bigger with its 6" display and has plenty of options, but prices almost twice the cost of the ZE551ML I can find locally ...

sierramike said:
The allview X2 soul has no NFC, no LTE, only 2Gb RAM, only 5" display, only one SIM, so definitely not suitable. The X2 xtreme is bigger with its 6" display and has plenty of options, but prices almost twice the cost of the ZE551ML I can find locally ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is the wrong model. Allview has different models and the one I'm talking about is the X2 Xtreme which does have LTE,NFC and has a 6inch display. Here the price is about same as the zenphone. Since we are in different areas, our prices are going to be different. You need to do a search and you'll find the different models out there.

First of all, to make it clear, the phone you are looking for has to have two modems (this is what makes phone "dual sim active" or "dual sim full active" one), and unfortunatelly Zenfone Selfie doesn't meet that requirement.
On the other hand, it's a fact that ZE551ML does not support data transfer on second SIM slot (which is a bit awkward since Intel XMM 2230 - the second modem, does support EDGE).
In fact there are very little number of models with DSFA and 4G on both SIMs. For now I can think of Lenovo Vibe X2-CU as the affordable one, and maybe Huawei Mate 7 and P8 (but, with those you have to chose whether to use second SIM or SD card).

NGP store USA, has anyone ordered?

So the HTC 10 does have a listing on amazon that comes with a US warranty and is listed as in stock. One of the sellers is NGP store USA. It says get it by May 2-5 with expedited shipping.
On their site they are selling the 10, the GSM bands and everything matches up with HTC.com, but they do offer gold with a white face as one of the color options which isn't an option on HTC site. I tried calling them today but I got a recording saying it was after business hours (even though they're in Seattle and it's 3:30 there). I'm going to ask if it comes with a US warranty and of course if they'll price match HTC.com
Anyway has anybody ordered a HTC 10 from them? Or purchased a past device from them?
For anyone interested,
http://ngpstoreusa.com/product/htc-10-factory-unlocked-gsm

I don't know anything about them but you do lose the $100 discount so the price is higher despite the other color options.
Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Heisenberg420 said:
So the HTC 10 does have a listing on amazon that comes with a US warranty and is listed as in stock. One of the sellers is NGP store USA. It says get it by May 2-5 with expedited shipping.
On their site they are selling the 10, the GSM bands and everything matches up with HTC.com, but they do offer gold with a white face as one of the color options which isn't an option on HTC site. I tried calling them today but I got a recording saying it was after business hours (even though they're in Seattle and it's 3:30 there). I'm going to ask if it comes with a US warranty and of course if they'll price match HTC.com
Anyway has anybody ordered a HTC 10 from them? Or purchased a past device from them?
For anyone interested,
http://ngpstoreusa.com/product/htc-10-factory-unlocked-gsm
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the description posted for their phones:
DOES NOT WORK with CDMA carriers (Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular etc). Nano SIM; ONLY 3G works with GSM carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile etc.). 4G LTE does not work in USA.
• 5.2 inches Super LCD5 capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
• Dual-core 2.15 GHz & Dual-core 1.6 GHz, Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 CPU
• 32 GB Internal Storage, 4 GB RAM
• Camera (Main): 12 MP, f/1.8, 26mm, OIS, laser autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash; Camera (Front): 5 MP.
It looks like it is no good in the US if you want 4G LTE ....

nuvision said:
This is the description posted for their phones:
DOES NOT WORK with CDMA carriers (Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular etc). Nano SIM; ONLY 3G works with GSM carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile etc.). 4G LTE does not work in USA.
• 5.2 inches Super LCD5 capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
• Dual-core 2.15 GHz & Dual-core 1.6 GHz, Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820 CPU
• 32 GB Internal Storage, 4 GB RAM
• Camera (Main): 12 MP, f/1.8, 26mm, OIS, laser autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash; Camera (Front): 5 MP.
It looks like it is no good in the US if you want 4G LTE ....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where are you seeing this?
This is what I am seeing under the HTC 10:
CPU Chipset: Snapdragon 820
Storage: 32GB, Micro SD slot
RAM: 4GB
Network Band:
2G/2.5G – GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/900/1800/1900 MHz,
3G UMTS, 850/AWS/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30
Those are the same LTE bands the HTC 10 has on HTC.com
Either way I wouldn't order before I call and confirm it works with at&t.

Heisenberg420 said:
Where are you seeing this?
This is what I am seeing under the HTC 10:
CPU Chipset: Snapdragon 820
Storage: 32GB, Micro SD slot
RAM: 4GB
Network Band:
2G/2.5G – GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/900/1800/1900 MHz,
3G UMTS, 850/AWS/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30
Those are the same LTE bands the HTC 10 has on HTC.com
Either way I wouldn't order before I call and confirm it works with at&t.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was looking at the information regarding the gold/white version:
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-5-2-Inch-Unlocked-International-Warranty/dp/B01EADQ6DC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1461887566&sr=8-15&keywords=htc+10+phone+unlocked

they are selling for $685, why would anyone buy from them?

Just got an email back from them, it's an Asian model. They assured me it does work with at&t though. It doesn't come with a US warranty and they won't price match HTC with the 100 off discount because they are very aware of the backorder situation HTC is dealing with. They do have it in stock and ships from US though.
I'm passing on it purely because of the warranty situation. For the last year I've owned a phone off warranty that now has hardware failure so I won't be making that mistake again.

I don't trust NGPstoreusa
Heisenberg420 said:
So the HTC 10 does have a listing on amazon that comes with a US warranty and is listed as in stock. One of the sellers is NGP store USA. It says get it by May 2-5 with expedited shipping.
On their site they are selling the 10, the GSM bands and everything matches up with HTC, but they do offer gold with a white face as one of the color options which isn't an option on HTC site. I tried calling them today but I got a recording saying it was after business hours (even though they're in Seattle and it's 3:30 there). I'm going to ask if it comes with a US warranty and of course if they'll price match HTC
Anyway has anybody ordered a HTC 10 from them? Or purchased a past device from them?
For anyone interested,
Bought an unlocked S7 Edge SM-G935FD from NGPstoreusa this week and they sent me a different model SM-G9350 (China; Sanpdragon 820 chipset) while I ordered a Exynnos 8990 chipset. Tried contacting them but their phone always goes to voicemail and their email response takes a day for them to review.
They have such an elaborate automated voice recording but in the end, it will always goes to voicemail. I think they are trying to send me the wrong model thinking I don't know the difference.
I can't trust this online store.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

www.ngpstoreusa.com Recently my a grandmum Sending the mobile in India Samsung S22 ultra unlocked factory green color So I'm waiting for a long time regarding this product when I get this product of time fedex I see that is Samsung S21 ultra Chinese product So that is your scam company you scam the money and you send the wrong product the people
Don't trust this company or website

ngpstoreusa.com scam I am buy Samsung S22 ultra unlocked factory green color So when I get this product of time fedex I see that is Samsung S21 ultra Chinese product So that is your scam company you send the wrong product the people