Hi,
I see we can get the ZE551ML with two Intel variants : Z3560 1.8GHz and Z3580 2.3GHz. I think the cheapest version would have plenty of power for my usage (no games or very simple ones like 2048 ...), I merely like to browse the web when I'm outside (other than use the phone to phone !).
But the ZD551KL gets a Qualcom S615 with 8 cores and slower speed. Does anyone know how it compares to the former?
And about SIM cards, do both of these phones allow to "listen" for incoming calls on both SIMs at the same time? My goal would be to put personal and professionnal phone lines, and I just NEED to get incoming calls from both lines, not enable one at a time ... (don't understand the principle of standby dual sim)
Thanks
sierramike said:
Hi,
I see we can get the ZE551ML with two Intel variants : Z3560 1.8GHz and Z3580 2.3GHz. I think the cheapest version would have plenty of power for my usage (no games or very simple ones like 2048 ...), I merely like to browse the web when I'm outside (other than use the phone to phone !).
But the ZD551KL gets a Qualcom S615 with 8 cores and slower speed. Does anyone know how it compares to the former?
And about SIM cards, do both of these phones allow to "listen" for incoming calls on both SIMs at the same time? My goal would be to put personal and professionnal phone lines, and I just NEED to get incoming calls from both lines, not enable one at a time ... (don't understand the principle of standby dual sim)
Thanks
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If you intend to use both sims, do not get the ZE551ML, Asus used subpar hardware on sim2 and is only capable of 2G with data blocked. 2G is being phased out and is already being shut down. In about a years time you will be left with a single sim phone. It's not only about speed but what hardware they are using. You can have the best processor in the world however if it is connected to subpar and outdated hardware it means nothing.
Also Asus never updated their OS at all, just their firmware. Which is nice they push out updates, but I'm finding their constant updates are to fix the problems they created with the last update.
Find another phone, there are plenty of companies out there offering dual sim with up to date hardware in the same price range.
Hi, thanks for your answer, could you point me some samples ? I did a lot of research but couldn't find anything else featuring a Full HD 5,5" screen with 4Gb of RAM with a decent camera and dual sim for EUR 249 ...
Help, Root Zenfone Selfie ZD551KL???
I don't think it's the right place to ask this ...
Just do searches and go through everything. Amazon, Aliexpress. Being in France you're open to a wide range of phones because of your bands over the United States. If you just search Dual Sim 4G LTE 64gb or even 32GB you will see tons come up. You don't really need 64GB as long as you can put a data card in the phone, a 32GB will work just fine as I move apps over to the card to free up space anyway. The Allview X2 looks great, I wish it had our US bands on it.
The allview X2 soul has no NFC, no LTE, only 2Gb RAM, only 5" display, only one SIM, so definitely not suitable. The X2 xtreme is bigger with its 6" display and has plenty of options, but prices almost twice the cost of the ZE551ML I can find locally ...
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The allview X2 soul has no NFC, no LTE, only 2Gb RAM, only 5" display, only one SIM, so definitely not suitable. The X2 xtreme is bigger with its 6" display and has plenty of options, but prices almost twice the cost of the ZE551ML I can find locally ...
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That is the wrong model. Allview has different models and the one I'm talking about is the X2 Xtreme which does have LTE,NFC and has a 6inch display. Here the price is about same as the zenphone. Since we are in different areas, our prices are going to be different. You need to do a search and you'll find the different models out there.
First of all, to make it clear, the phone you are looking for has to have two modems (this is what makes phone "dual sim active" or "dual sim full active" one), and unfortunatelly Zenfone Selfie doesn't meet that requirement.
On the other hand, it's a fact that ZE551ML does not support data transfer on second SIM slot (which is a bit awkward since Intel XMM 2230 - the second modem, does support EDGE).
In fact there are very little number of models with DSFA and 4G on both SIMs. For now I can think of Lenovo Vibe X2-CU as the affordable one, and maybe Huawei Mate 7 and P8 (but, with those you have to chose whether to use second SIM or SD card).
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I've been looking on website for the past days trying to find a ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML) when I look at the specifications it says it has a Intel Atom Quad Core Z3560 (1.8 GHz) processor not been able to find the (2.3 GHz) processor anywhere is this a mistake the websites have made?
Does anyone know where to purchase the (2.3 GHz) variant in the UK or dealers who ship to the UK? Also is the 32G device sold with 2.3Ghz
If so is there a real difference between the 2.3Ghz and the 1.8Ghz ??
try darty.com i can see they sell in france, not sure if they are shipping to uk, or do they have stores in UK.
The 2.3 is only in the 64GB version.
Trotter516 said:
The 2.3 is only in the 64GB version.
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Ah I see then I'm guessing most people got them missed up, I was watching many reviews and they said 32GB with the 2.3Ghz, Couple Amazon reviews said they got 32GB with 2.3Ghz
masne said:
try darty.com i can see they sell in france, not sure if they are shipping to uk, or do they have stores in UK.
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Thanks, Yeah just a little confused still according to this website its 32GB, 2.3GHz
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The 2.3 is only in the 64GB version.
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That depends on where it is from. For example, there are both 64 and 32 GB versions with the 2.3 GHz cpu here in Japan.
As for the OP's question regarding whether there is a real difference, I believe the gpu, cpu architecture and base clock of the 3560 and 3580 are identical. The difference is just in the Max boost frequency under load. I doubt there is much notable difference in everyday use - a bit faster for heavy tasks, at the expense of a bit heavier battery drain?
kanagawaben said:
That depends on where it is from. For example, there are both 64 and 32 GB versions with the 2.3 GHz cpu here in Japan.
As for the OP's question regarding whether there is a real difference, I believe the gpu, cpu architecture and base clock of the 3560 and 3580 are identical. The difference is just in the Max boost frequency under load. I doubt there is much notable difference in everyday use - a bit faster for heavy tasks, at the expense of a bit heavier battery drain?
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My phone is from ASUS.fr and is 32gb , 4gb ram and 2.3ghz and WW of course.
I am posting this in hopes that it will help others to pick the right model for them. If any of the info is incorrect, let me know. I put this together based on my extensive research prior to purchasing the version I have. Asus really screwed up on this phone with the various confusing versions and even the name of the phone being Zenphone 2.
For example, I have the TW based version and its 2.3ghz with 4 gigs of ram and 32 gig storage.
(ZE551ML) 2.3 ghz with either 32gig or 64 gig and 4 gb of Ram (Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3580, PowerVR G6430) - with a 1080 HD IPS Display (403ppi)
(ZE551ML) 1.8 ghz with 32gig and 2 or 4 gb ram (Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560, PowerVR G6430) - 1080 HD IPS Display (403ppi)
(ZE550ML) 1.8 ghz with 16gig and 2 gb ram (Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560, PowerVR G6430) - 1080 HD IPS Display (267ppi)
NOTE that the 2.3 ghz version is the only one compatible with Quick Charge capabilities. The 18W BoostMaster adapter is included with 2.3GHz/4GB ZenFone 2 model only.. Asus states that the phone will quick charge to 60% in no more than 39 minutes.
Here are the different versions available on the market (that I know of)
TW = Taiwan
WW = World Wide
CN/IN = China and India
US = USA
JP = I have not been able to find much info on this as the JP (Japan) version is just starting to show up
These are the LTE Bands from the ASUS website to help make sure you get the correct one for your area/carrier:
4G :
FDD-LTE: (TW)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/900MHz(8)/700MHz(28)
FDD-LTE: (WW)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (US)
2100MHz(1)/1900MHz(2)/1800MHz(3)/1700MHz AWS(4)/850MHz(5)/2600MHz(7)/900MHz(8)/700MHz(17)/800MHz(20)
FDD-LTE: (CN/IN)
2100MHz(1)/1800MHz(3)
TDD-LTE: (CN/IN)
2600MHz(38)/1900MHz(39)/1900MHz(40)/1900MHz(41)
Also I have confirmed that the phone can take a 128gb micro SD card even though it says 64gig MicroSD on the Asus web site. I took the 128gig MicroSD card out of my Note 4 and tried it in the Zenphone 2 and it worked perfect!
mcmikelw said:
NOTE that the 2.3 ghz version is the only one compatible with Quick Charge capabilities. The 18W BoostMaster adapter is included with 2.3GHz/4GB ZenFone 2 model only.. Asus states that the phone will quick charge to 60% in no more than 39 minutes.
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Don't think that's right, as according to the spec sheet on the Asus site even the ZE550ML (720p with 1.8 GHz processor) supports fast charging with boost master adapter (not included)
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Don't think that's right, as according to the spec sheet on the Asus site even the ZE550ML (720p with 1.8 GHz processor) supports fast charging with boost master adapter (not included)
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I know for a fact that the 1.8 ghz 4 gb of ram ZE551ML version does not support fast charging as I had that unit and had to sell it because of that reason alone. I am not sure about the ZE550ML, can someone that has that unit confirm so I can update my post?
Thanks
If you are in the UK, then you can purchase from the European Amazon sites.
Italian amazon appears to be the cheapest, they have the 32gb 2.3ghz 4gb ram version for EUR345, which comes out under £250 with shipping.
Also, this is sold directly by amazon, so if you have issues you are covered by amazon returns policy.
I bought the phone from there, and it turned up the next day.
Unfortunately it had a fault (see my thread for details) so had to get a replacement. But that was simple enough with the aid of google translate.
If i had imported from China i would not have been happy!
Hopefully my fault was a one off, and the replacement will be a good as i would expect from the specs.
I got mine from eBay but got the 1.8 4Gb ram 32gb version ordered mine on Tuesday 12th may and came 2day
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mcmikelw said:
I know for a fact that the 1.8 ghz 4 gb of ram ZE551ML version does not support fast charging as I had that unit and had to sell it because of that reason alone. I am not sure about the ZE550ML, can someone that has that unit confirm so I can update my post?
Thanks
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I have the 550 but I don't have a boost master charger to test it with, unfortunately.
l3msip said:
If you are in the UK, then you can purchase from the European Amazon sites.
Italian amazon appears to be the cheapest, they have the 32gb 2.3ghz 4gb ram version for EUR345, which comes out under £250 with shipping.
Also, this is sold directly by amazon, so if you have issues you are covered by amazon returns policy.
I bought the phone from there, and it turned up the next day.
Unfortunately it had a fault (see my thread for details) so had to get a replacement. But that was simple enough with the aid of google translate.
If i had imported from China i would not have been happy!
Hopefully my fault was a one off, and the replacement will be a good as i would expect from the specs.
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Thanks, looking around I found a couple other cheaper dealers.
NA release tomorrow
Price$199 for Z3560/16GB, $299 for Z3580/64GB
Comes to about £190 seems reasonable
nachashh said:
Thanks, looking around I found a couple other cheaper dealers.
NA release tomorrow
Price$199 for Z3560/16GB, $299 for Z3580/64GB
Comes to about £190 seems reasonable sadly gonna have to buy an adapter.
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which site? Ive taken a look at newegg shop, but no zenfone 2 in their shop?
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which site? Ive taken a look at newegg shop, but no zenfone 2 in their shop?
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...51ml_23_4g64gn_rd_zenfone_2_ze551ml_64gb.html
Sadly not really a point for me I'd end up paying much more in shipping and taxes.
This is 1.8ghz who I bought mine off ordered on 12th got it on 18th
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Zenf...453?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aea08126d
2.3ghz
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-ZenF...296?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a2c83e88
Another 2.3
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-Zenf...103?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d3117d47f
Also one who I bought mine off the 1st post I never paid customs or anything dpd picked it up from airport and it worldwide version (ww) works on Vodafone 4g in uk
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I have finally ordered Dual Sim Z2 Play from Amazon and i have received it today. I opened the Sim Tray, and i am bit confused as it seem it's not the dual version. Can you please check the following pictures? If an owner of the dual sim z2 play can see this thread and verify me about this. How to host the 2 sim cards? As i see a plastic black and then the area for one sim card. Amazon replied me that i have bought a dual sim phone, but till now seems not.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide!
You bought the mono sim version. The dual sim in the sim side have two slot.
For example:
I tried to move a bit the plastic that exist on the sim 2 slot, and it removed, so now the tray is the same as the picture u posted. Though when i put the tray back, only one is recognized. I emailed again Amazon and their response is:
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This is Prince from Amazon.it Customer Service, and It's a pleasure to assist you again.
Upon your request, I've double checked the "Motorola Moto Z2 Play Smartphone da 5,5 pollici FHD AMOLED, 4GB RAM, 64 GB ROM, Snapdragon 626 Octa-core 2,2 GHz, 12 MP Camera, 4G LTE, Android 7.1.1, Grigio Lunare" purchased in your order 408-4458000-8550715.
I found in the description that The phone is dual SIM with the ability to add the microSD (SIM1 + SIM2 + microSD at the same time).
So if you want to know more of the installing SIM cards way, Kindly follow the instructions of the manual book attached with the phone."
I bit confused of what is the problem
Are you italian? I'm also. Are you sure that you have bought the reteu and not the Tim version, that is branded and mono sim? The two version are both avaible in Amazon It, the Tim version with a lower price.
Send a screenshot of system info, to check in is reteu or a branded version. Above mine, where you can read "reteu".
However the sim tray in the two version is the same, with a cup to cover the second sim slot in mono sim, like yours. Obviously in the mono sim the second doesn't work even if you use the dual sim tray or, as you do, remove the cup.
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Nope, just found the deal on amazon it wharehouse deals. I suspect its the tim version, as when i am trying to boot it, i see the TIM logo. I am just shocked a bit, that Amazon itself doesnt know what phone they sell
I will return the phone back then, its sure i can't enable it without going to other measures, like root, unlock the bootloader, etc right?
blkid said:
Are you italian? I'm also. Are you sure that you have bought the reteu and not the Tim version, that is branded and mono sim? The two version are both avaible in Amazon It, the Tim version with a lower price.
Send a screenshot of system info, to check in is reteu or a branded version. Above mine, where you can read "reteu".
However the sim tray in the two version is the same, with a cup to cover the second sim slot in mono sim, like yours. Obviously in the mono sim the second doesn't work even if you use the dual sim tray or, as you do, remove the cup.View attachment 4492471
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In the calale software, it says timit
In the moto z play i read in the past that is possible enable dual sim in mono version. On the z2 i suppose also but i don't know how. In any case the branded version have also other problem, expecially with Tim that is famous for their weird support of updates in their branded phones.
I suggest to you to return the phone and buy the right version.
If sw Channel is timit is the Tim Italy version
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Return the device and if possible get some other device in this range. This phone is expensive with mediocre hardware.
gitzz said:
Return the device and if possible get some other device in this range. This phone is expensive with mediocre hardware.
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For me this is perfect phone, amoled screen, 2sims + SD at the same time and most important - 3.5 jack! and I bought Moto turbo power first day, so 6500 mAh battery.
Point me to some other device that has it all with better CPU and stock android. Good luck
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For me this is perfect phone, amoled screen, 2sims + SD at the same time and most important - 3.5 jack! and I bought Moto turbo power first day, so 6500 mAh battery.
Point me to some other device that has it all with better CPU and stock android. Good luck
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These were the same points i thought, but i could live without a memory card, so i would have gone for Oneplus 5 that time. It was not much difference moneywise but sepcs wise its better.
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These were the same points i thought, but i could live without a memory card, so i would have gone for Oneplus 5 that time. It was not much difference moneywise but sepcs wise its better.
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I was thinking about OnePlus as well. But the CPU in z2 play is not bad at all, handles all tasks smooth and it is not power hungry. Never had any unwanted reboot nor lags.
Anyway, I had some good phones lately because of my work, iPhone 7, X, android 6p, 5x, pixel xl. This is clear winner for me among them, may not be top CPU performer, nor the nicest (X was very impressive with its screen, but gestures and no fingerprint sensor ruined it for me), but build quality is comparable, and battery life with turbo mod is outstanding, bulky a bit but I favour it over thinnes of the other devices and no headphone jack, no sd slot, no dual sim.
Hi all
I’m trying to find out if this model really exists. I have seen there is a B model that’s dual SIM but this F/DS version turned up in the TECHWALLS page (https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s20-ultra-5g-model-number-sm-g988-differences/).
But I can’t seem to confirm if it really exists, or if Occasionally sellers just make a mistake and put F instead of B from time to time.
If someone has it can you take a picture of the side of the box (Jose the IMEIs)? Better still confirm which cellular bands such device has.
Thanks
ekerbuddyeker said:
Hi all
I’m trying to find out if this model really exists. I have seen there is a B model that’s dual SIM but this F/DS version turned up in the TECHWALLS page (https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s20-ultra-5g-model-number-sm-g988-differences/).
But I can’t seem to confirm if it really exists, or if Occasionally sellers just make a mistake and put F instead of B from time to time.
If someone has it can you take a picture of the side of the box (Jose the IMEIs)? Better still confirm which cellular bands such device has.
Thanks
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That's the s20 ultra offered for sale in my country or region.
I dont have a photo since mine is s20+, the sm-g985f/ds.
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This European site shows the model for sale. https://www.mobileshop.eu/samsung/m...l-sim-128gb-12gb-ram-sm-g988f-ds-cosmic-grey/
SM-G988F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked) = SM-G988BZADXSP (Cosmic Gray – 128GB Storage) = SM-G988BZKDXSP (Cosmic Black – 128GB Storage)
The processor is an Exynos 990 and the frequencies are for Asia (India/Singapore) which is very close to the US and this is why I was searching for one.
Here is a site that lists the different models: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s20-ultra-5g-model-number-sm-g988-differences
Hi all
I've used this website for years off and on but always reading, never commenting (so far as I can rememeber) and I thought this would be the best place to ask a question.
I am going to purchase this phone as it's been a long while since I last bought one (still using the Z5 Premium Dual) and I need to upgrade. I bought my current Z5 from a UK website that specialised in importing HK phones (but they are no longer trading). I have to say I think it's the first Sony release where I believe that they have addressed most of the issues of anything released after mine, and seem to have got it more or less right, plus made advancements in it's features (Photo Pro, Cinema Pro, etc).
But having a dual sim phone for all these years, I really want to buy the dual sim variant, the only problem is I cannot find enough concrete information to establish which variant is the model I need to buy and then, where from?
So far I've looked at all the US retailers and it's not plain to see as some advertise it as dual sim when its single sim hybrid. I've spoken to both Sony in th UK and US and advice is limited as they only really know about their own products. (Also, the US version(s) apparently do not support 5G and I'm not sure if that means their 5G, or that it would work when here straight out of the box or would require flashing. I don't want to spend that kind of money trying to see).
The Japanese versions are different still as they have their own model numbers depending on the carriers or retailers (I think from research) so I've looked at the Hong Kong site and the only version that they seem to sell directly is the single sim hybrid version which is the same as Europe.
Can anyone here please provide any further details of which model is the dual sim plus SD card version (if there is in fact one) and a link to where they found out.
The versions I know (from xperiablog.net) are:
- XQ-AT51 (I believe think is the single sim hydrid version)
- XQ-AT52 (I think this may be a dual sim plus SD card model but not sure)
- XQ-AT72 (I think this may be a dual sim plus SD card model but not sure)
- SO-51A (NTT docomo – Japanese carrier)
- SOG01 (au by KDDI – Japanese carrier)
The difference between the 52 and 72 variants may simply be the name for different regions but I'm sure that one is classed as the dual sim global version, which would be the version to go for. It would be grat to know the differences too.
If anyone can help with the any of the above, I would be extreme;y grateful.
There is also the time element as if I can't get the dual sim for any reason, I'll have to go purchase here and then I might as well take advantage of the pre-order offer of the free headphones.
Many thanks.
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Confirmed XQ-AT52 is a dual-sim version in Taiwan.
I think most people are importing to the UK from wandamobile:
https://www.wondamobile.com/
They ship from HK so you will get the HK/Taiwan dual sim model (XQ-AT52)
I have listed support 4G and 5G Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity (ENDC) combinations of Global XG-AT51 model: https://cacombos.com/device?model=XQ-AT51
may the XQ-AT72 is the Dual Sim version with 256Gb storage
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may the XQ-AT72 is the Dual Sim version with 256Gb storage
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That's the XQ-AT52. The 128 GB storage versions are the Japanese ones starting SO.
Maybe the XQ-AT72 is the Xperia Pro?
Hello!
I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 Pro.
But I need dual SIM function - one Sim is a physical one (company SIM) the other could be an eSIM (private one). But a real dual SIM tray would be better...
Does anyone know, if this will be possible? I've read a lot about specs - but nothing about SIM...
Thanks a lot!
We won't know for sure until the phone lands but the Pixel 6 Pro Service and Repair manual has been leaked.
In that there are photos of all the spare parts which shows what looks to be a single SIM slot tray.
Pixel have been doing eSim for years so the assumption is that it will be dual SIM by having one eSim.
The only way to know for sure is to study the manual that leaked earlier
Have a go
https://docs.google.com/file/d/113RDKIakZKaLu04YUDicM718KXO2Vgpu/edit?filetype=mspresentation
The smartphone comes with 6.67 inches display size and it features IP68 dust/water resistance (up to 1.5m for 30 mins). The smartphone supports Nano-SIM and/or eSIM.
Hello!
Many thanks for your help
It looks like dual SIM is supported - one physical one is ok, I already have an eSIM profile. I think, my new phone will be a Google Pixel 6 Pro ;-)
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Wrong thread.