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What umts frequency does the Docomo xperia arc SO-01C use for 3G?

What umts frequency does the Docomo xperia arc SO-01C use for 3G?
Does it have a sim card slot?
i have been told that it has an sim slot and unlocked by Docomo
can any one approve?

Docomo uses an 800 band, not an 850 band, so it'll most likely not work.

NTT Docomo might operate on the same band, but mobile networks in Japan work in a completely different way. The NTT Docomo SO-01C will not work on any network out of Japan in any way.

the reason i wanted Docomo is because my GF wanted the pink color and is only available in Japan. I have found a Japanese seller that is willing to ship it to me to the U.S. Docomo started offerring free unlocking after April 1st . the phone has a sim slot and i think it will work on any GSM world wide if it was unlocked. but, the thing i wasnt sure about was the 3G issue.
it uses 850/900/1800/1900
not sure yet about umts/hsdpa
i have purchased the phone today and i am waiting for it to arrive. when i get it i will update you guys.
for me i am waiting on the xperia arc LT15a Version , but if the japanese version works i will get it from there also
the device at Docomo store is approximately $600 or 620 usd range without contract.

alsaqr said:
the reason i wanted Docomo is because my GF wanted the pink color and is only available in Japan. I have found a Japanese seller that is willing to ship it to me to the U.S. Docomo started offerring free unlocking after April 1st . the phone has a sim slot and i think it will work on any GSM world wide if it was unlocked. but, the thing i wasnt sure about was the 3G issue.
it uses 850/900/1800/1900
not sure yet about umts/hsdpa
i have purchased the phone today and i am waiting for it to arrive. when i get it i will update you guys.
for me i am waiting on the xperia arc LT15a Version , but if the japanese version works i will get it from there also
the device at Docomo store is approximately $600 or 620 usd range without contract.
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What is the site you bought it from?

batman_112 said:
What is the site you bought it from?
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I can't find it. I am in San Diego and 850 should work just fine. With all the issues in Japan I am not sure if the Xperia would get even to Canada/>/

it is from an seller in Japan that happened to have an ebay account, he doesnt sell xperia usually but i managed to get his help
i ordered today and i am waiting for the tracking number
im happy cause ebay has buyer protection.
i just need to make sure everything is perfect before i release his info

About NTT DoCoMo:
It provides 2G
(mova) PDC cellular services on the 800 MHz
band, and 3G FOMA W-CDMA services on the
2 GHz (UMTS2100) and 800 MHz(UMTS800(Band
VI)) and 1700 MHz(UMTS1700(Band IX)) bands.
They use MOVA for 2G and FOMA for 3G, and neither of those techniques are used anywhere out of Japan. If you can, cancel the order, because the Japanese Arc will not work in the US.

Docomo in Japan uses 2100mhz and 800mhz.
The retail box for the SO-01C lists UMTS 1/2/5/6 compatability (2100, 1900, 850, 800). Some websites suggest the SO-01C has UMTS 1/2/5/6/8 compatability. On the other hand, Sony Ericsson Japan simply lists "3G 850mhz/2Ghz" for international roaming.
For what it's worth, the SO-01C device label does not use either LT15i or LT15a codes (which are UMTS 1/8, and UMTS 1/2/5, respectively), but instead "SO-01C".
The only problem I see is that since the SO-01C is identified as "SO-01C" instead of LT15i/LT15a, there is a possibility that you may have difficulty in receiving OTA updates, and that any manual firmware updates for LT15i/LT15a may not work properly.
Edit: Yes, Docomo is FOMA, but FOMA is basically UMTS with a few additional Japan-only features. Historically, FOMA handsets used proprietary software (in addition to carrier lock) which made them difficult to use internationally. But stock Android is built for GSM/CDMA/UMTS (and now 4G/LTE), and not limited only to FOMA. In order to support Japan-only FOMA features on Android, Docomo just uses additional apps (such as SP Mode for messaging). Other FOMA features such as osaifu don't work anyway, because the Arc does not have an NFC chip, or an ISDB-T antenna for 1seg, etc.
Otherwise, basic UMTS voice and packet access should work fine just as long as the phone supports the correct UMTS band, the phone is indeed unlocked, and you have the necessary APN and MMS settings for your carrier.

I'm pretty sure you have to take the phone to a Docomo shop for it to be unlocked.

yes the seller has unlocked it for me at the docomo store.
im not cancelling anything ,this an sony android device and is a bit different from other docomo devices. i will see what happens when i recieve it and let you guys know.

alsaqr said:
yes the seller has unlocked it for me at the docomo store.
im not cancelling anything ,this an sony android device and is a bit different from other docomo devices. i will see what happens when i recieve it and let you guys know.
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I bet its going to work. Most carrier make their phones to work internationally (at least for the gsm part) if this is unlocked then it should work! Did he pay that $32 to unlock? It said that you need to have an account?
When are you receiving it?

yes i have paid the seller the unlocking fee , but im not sure if he got it for free or paid for it and i dint care since the fee is not that expensive. i paid on Friday and today he said he will ship via EMS. since it is weekend im not sure if they work in japan on sat/sun , i will inform you when i will get it once he gives me a tracking number.

hey guys
this is a japanese online store that proves what i have been saying about the 3G japanese version and that it should work in the usa if it is unlocked.
http://en.item.rakuten.com/riso-sya/243/
check the network section
note: i have not ordered from this site i have ordered from a private seller on ebay
this site has high quality cases and accessories if you are interested

$1156 :O
Sim Free :O
I want one but for half of the price

Well Nimche, sorry buddy but I finally gave in. Just ordered 2 Midnight Blue LT15i's from Handtec. (One for me, one for GF)
Edit: posted in wrong topic.

A few notes here:
1. The phone may be stuck in the Japanese Android Marketplace which means you won't be able to access the same applications in overseas markets. Even when a Japanese Android phone is set to English, the marketplace is still that of Japan, however it may depend on the carrier SIM card.
2. OTA updates take far longer to come out in Japan than in other countries due to the language issue. For example whereas the HTC Desire was updated to Android 2.2 overseas last July (August?) in Japan it wasn't updated until October. In the future, you may have a problem if you try a manual update in light of the Japanese modified OS (whereas OS updates released in other regions are compatible with those languages/builds).
3. Depending on if this seller is trustworthy or not, the phone may have an ESN problem. Unless he paid in full at the time of purchase then he may be locked into a 2 year contract. You can not buy a phone without service in Japan, you must sign a contract even if you cancel it the next day. This may or may not be a problem in your being overseas (probably not).
4. Customer service for the phone must be handled in Japan, thus if there is anything wrong with it you are going to have a problem. In Japan, the buyer must inspect the phone prior to purchase to verify there are no scratches or problems and once the contract is finalized the phone can NOT be returned under any condition. This is quite different from America where you can apparently return the product days or even weeks later simply because you don't like it.
Also, if the seller has terminated the contract then there is no free repair or exchange possible, even in Japan.
5. Packet transmission charges may be calculated at a different rate because you are not using a phone provided by your carrier. In Japan, for example, Docomo has locked smartphone handsets at a maximum charge of around 6,000 yen per month, however if an unlocked phone is used it is treated as a mobile terminal and thus billed at a higher rate of 9,980 yen per month.

TokyoGuy said:
A few notes here:
1. The phone may be stuck in the Japanese Android Marketplace which means you won't be able to access the same applications in overseas markets. Even when a Japanese Android phone is set to English, the marketplace is still that of Japan, however it may depend on the carrier SIM card.
2. OTA updates take far longer to come out in Japan than in other countries due to the language issue. For example whereas the HTC Desire was updated to Android 2.2 overseas last July (August?) in Japan it wasn't updated until October. In the future, you may have a problem if you try a manual update in light of the Japanese modified OS (whereas OS updates released in other regions are compatible with those languages/builds).
3. Depending on if this seller is trustworthy or not, the phone may have an ESN problem. Unless he paid in full at the time of purchase then he may be locked into a 2 year contract. You can not buy a phone without service in Japan, you must sign a contract even if you cancel it the next day. This may or may not be a problem in your being overseas (probably not).
4. Customer service for the phone must be handled in Japan, thus if there is anything wrong with it you are going to have a problem. In Japan, the buyer must inspect the phone prior to purchase to verify there are no scratches or problems and once the contract is finalized the phone can NOT be returned under any condition. This is quite different from America where you can apparently return the product days or even weeks later simply because you don't like it.
Also, if the seller has terminated the contract then there is no free repair or exchange possible, even in Japan.
5. Packet transmission charges may be calculated at a different rate because you are not using a phone provided by your carrier. In Japan, for example, Docomo has locked smartphone handsets at a maximum charge of around 6,000 yen per month, however if an unlocked phone is used it is treated as a mobile terminal and thus billed at a higher rate of 9,980 yen per month.
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thanks tokyo guy for the info
1- i think the market will work fine , if it doesnt i will flash the LT15i rom
2-for now im ok with 2.3 and if i flash with LT15i , i guess i will do fine
3-the seller has bought the phone full price without a contract
4-even if i bought from anywhere else, the warranty issue wont matter since i am buying from other countries. my x10 never had any issue where i needed a warranty and im hoping the arc will be the same
5-As i said the seller has paid full price and there is no contract and is unlocked for international roaming(policy has changed in docomo after april 1st)
note: i have told the seller that if it doesnt work properly , that i will return it

alsaqr said:
thanks tokyo guy for the info
1- i think the market will work fine , if it doesnt i will flash the LT15i rom
2-for now im ok with 2.3 and if i flash with LT15i , i guess i will do fine
3-the seller has bought the phone full price without a contract
4-even if i bought from anywhere else, the warranty issue wont matter since i am buying from other countries. my x10 never had any issue where i needed a warranty and im hoping the arc will be the same
5-As i said the seller has paid full price and there is no contract and is unlocked for international roaming(policy has changed in docomo after april 1st)
note: i have told the seller that if it doesnt work properly , that i will return it
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I had a talk with SE USA and they told me that if I buy a product from another country, they will still repair it for a fee.
Good info here.

Nimche said:
I had a talk with SE USA and they told me that if I buy a product from another country, they will still repair it for a fee.
Good info here.
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ya i fixed my sony laptop that i bought from a different country at sony usa and they accepted it

Using HongKong S20+ in Europe: which things won't work.

Hi all,
I live in Europe and am planning to buy a Snapdragon S20+ from HongKong.
I've checked which network bands the HK phone supports and all bands I need are there.
Before placing the order I want to check with you guys if I have a clear picture of all limitations that come with buying a HK S20+ in Europe.
The list I compiled so far:
- No Samsung Pay (I don't care, won't use it)
- VOLTE may or may not work depending on your carrier (I don't care, I barely call and if I call I don't care about the quality)
- No warranty in Europe .
- Difference in timing of updates
Anything else I should take into account?

YH93 said:
Hi all,
I live in Europe and am planning to buy a Snapdragon S20+ from HongKong.
I've checked which network bands the HK phone supports and all bands I need are there.
Before placing the order I want to check with you guys if I have a clear picture of all limitations that come with buying a HK S20+ in Europe.
The list I compiled so far:
- No Samsung Pay (I don't care, won't use it)
- VOLTE may or may not work depending on your carrier (I don't care, I barely call and if I call I don't care about the quality)
- No warranty in Europe .
- Difference in timing of updates
Anything else I should take into account?
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Carrier Aggregation may suffer, which will reduce download speeds. I have a Hong Kong variant, VoLTE, WiFi Calling and Samsung Pay work however I'm in the US, your results may vary as you mentioned depending on the carrier. Don't expect you can modify the CSC, you can't change it. Samkey doesn't support HK variants and OXM, which allows Preconfiguration changes for different European CSC's isn't embedded in the software. Updates have come in a timely fashion every month and there's no Carrier Branded Bloatware. Even though the device has some limitations I've been pleased with the HK variant, anything but Exynos!

varcor said:
Carrier Aggregation may suffer, which will reduce download speeds. I have a Hong Kong variant, VoLTE, WiFi Calling and Samsung Pay work however I'm in the US, your results may vary as you mentioned depending on the carrier. Don't expect you can modify the CSC, you can't change it. Samkey doesn't support HK variants and OXM, which allows Preconfiguration changes for different European CSC's isn't embedded in the software. Updates have come in a timely fashion every month and there's no Carrier Branded Bloatware. Even though the device has some limitations I've been pleased with the HK variant, anything but Exynos!
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Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I'll go for the HK version then. Don't see any reason why I shouldn't.

Actually Samsung Pay should work in Europe flawlessly, only thing that won't work is rewards. To be more precise, rewards do work, but the rewards shown are the ones of the phone's original country...
As for the Samkey CSC change limitation, I remember reading a post here about a user that changed CSC from Taiwan to Hong Kong using Samkey...

Rulsar_Tec said:
Actually Samsung Pay should work in Europe flawlessly, only thing that won't work is rewards. To be more precise, rewards do work, but the rewards shown are the ones of the phone's original country...
As for the Samkey CSC change limitation, I remember reading a post here about a user that changed CSC from Taiwan to Hong Kong using Samkey...
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Good to know. I'm currently not using or planning to use Samsung Pay but that might change in the future.
Regarding the CSC limations, I don't see any reason why I would need to change the CSC.

Reason why you may want to think twice is that in the event if you get unit with poor uniformity seller may not be willing to replace it as easily

How do you plan on buying it?

Sharpshooterrr said:
How do you plan on buying it?
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I bought mine from T-Dimension. Just be sure to order from their .de or .co.uk site and you don't have to pay any customs. Cheeper then the Exynos version here in Sweden. Took about 2 weeks to get the phone. First they ship it from HK to their warehouse in UK then from there to me.
Skickat från min SM-G9860 via Tapatalk

I have ordered the phone from WondaMobile.
They have the HongKong Snapdragon version for the same price as the Exynos in my country.
Also no customs are being charged as they will ship it from/via the UK.

I have ordered S20 ultra also from WondaMobile. I was on 6th of May and I'm hopping the delivery will not take to much time. I also hope I don't have to send it back because of broken camera glass or other issues which s20 ultra suffers...

Hello
My S20 Ultra comes to WondaMobile and is amazing (model 512/16GB)
Samsung Pay and Volte work perfectly.
Photos are fantastic.

I also have the Snapdragon version
Get it. I had the Exynos and it had a poor battery life plus other disadvantages

Could someone check for me ?: Dutch (the Netherlands) language included in the HK version? Mi

is the hongkong version better than the chinese version ??? any differnce
and what about 5g my country supports sub 6 which is 3.5 bandwith

ChromeFR said:
Could someone check for me : Dutch (the Netherlands) language included in the HK version? Mi
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Yes, it is.

dr.memo1o said:
is the hongkong version better than the chinese version ??? any differnce
and what about 5g my country supports sub 6 which is 3.5 bandwith
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Samsung pay and Google services work.
5g is ok for France

Hello, what is the CSC, what is the use of it and why someone would change it? Are the european languages supported in this version?

Xperia 1ii Variants and Regions

Hi all
I've used this website for years off and on but always reading, never commenting (so far as I can rememeber) and I thought this would be the best place to ask a question.
I am going to purchase this phone as it's been a long while since I last bought one (still using the Z5 Premium Dual) and I need to upgrade. I bought my current Z5 from a UK website that specialised in importing HK phones (but they are no longer trading). I have to say I think it's the first Sony release where I believe that they have addressed most of the issues of anything released after mine, and seem to have got it more or less right, plus made advancements in it's features (Photo Pro, Cinema Pro, etc).
But having a dual sim phone for all these years, I really want to buy the dual sim variant, the only problem is I cannot find enough concrete information to establish which variant is the model I need to buy and then, where from?
So far I've looked at all the US retailers and it's not plain to see as some advertise it as dual sim when its single sim hybrid. I've spoken to both Sony in th UK and US and advice is limited as they only really know about their own products. (Also, the US version(s) apparently do not support 5G and I'm not sure if that means their 5G, or that it would work when here straight out of the box or would require flashing. I don't want to spend that kind of money trying to see).
The Japanese versions are different still as they have their own model numbers depending on the carriers or retailers (I think from research) so I've looked at the Hong Kong site and the only version that they seem to sell directly is the single sim hybrid version which is the same as Europe.
Can anyone here please provide any further details of which model is the dual sim plus SD card version (if there is in fact one) and a link to where they found out.
The versions I know (from xperiablog.net) are:
- XQ-AT51 (I believe think is the single sim hydrid version)
- XQ-AT52 (I think this may be a dual sim plus SD card model but not sure)
- XQ-AT72 (I think this may be a dual sim plus SD card model but not sure)
- SO-51A (NTT docomo – Japanese carrier)
- SOG01 (au by KDDI – Japanese carrier)
The difference between the 52 and 72 variants may simply be the name for different regions but I'm sure that one is classed as the dual sim global version, which would be the version to go for. It would be grat to know the differences too.
If anyone can help with the any of the above, I would be extreme;y grateful.
There is also the time element as if I can't get the dual sim for any reason, I'll have to go purchase here and then I might as well take advantage of the pre-order offer of the free headphones.
Many thanks.
D

Confirmed XQ-AT52 is a dual-sim version in Taiwan.

I think most people are importing to the UK from wandamobile:
https://www.wondamobile.com/
They ship from HK so you will get the HK/Taiwan dual sim model (XQ-AT52)

I have listed support 4G and 5G Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity (ENDC) combinations of Global XG-AT51 model: https://cacombos.com/device?model=XQ-AT51

may the XQ-AT72 is the Dual Sim version with 256Gb storage

DanielMode said:
may the XQ-AT72 is the Dual Sim version with 256Gb storage
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That's the XQ-AT52. The 128 GB storage versions are the Japanese ones starting SO.
Maybe the XQ-AT72 is the Xperia Pro?

Galaxy S20 Plus 5G with Snapdragon in Europe

I need help understanding all the differences between the various S20 Plus 5G versions. I live in Italy and I want to buy the Snapdragon international unlocked but I miss some points in using an international version here where we can only find the Exynos one.
Speaking about the various names, so far I understood
Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM:
SM-G986U - Factory Unlocked from US
SM-G986N - South Korea (?)a lot of bloatware and a custom intro animation, so not the original and "pure" Android version(?)
SM-G9860, SM-G9868 - China, Hong Kong, Japan, Brazil
I've found a good price for the SM-G986N in a European store but I'm missing some details:
My phone will update as soon as the update is rolled out in Korea? And then about the bloatware, easily removable to make the phone lighter and snappier? Regarding this I was wondering if I can flash the US firmware or is it impossible due to hardware differences between the SM-G986N and the SM-G986U? I really miss this point, if there only are software-related differences between devices with the same CPU or also hardware ones.
I've found sometimes the US version in some stores but there were crazy prices or very limited availability.
Which version would you guys suggest me to go for? Thanks in advance for any answer.
EDIT #1 after chieco's answer: rootable phone isn't a priority

you need to get this model SM-G9860 because it has the least bloatware, SnapDragon aaaaaand most important, it can be rooted! Also since your warranty is handled thru the seller and not Samsung you don't need to worry about knox effecting your warranty.

chieco said:
you need to get this model SM-G9860 because it has the least bloatware, SnapDragon aaaaaand most important, it can be rooted! Also since your warranty is handled thru the seller and not Samsung you don't need to worry about knox effecting your warranty.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I wasn't actually thinking aboutroot, but knowing I can do that if I want is certainly an added value!

ianeze46 said:
Thanks for the suggestion, I wasn't actually thinking aboutroot, but knowing I can do that if I want is certainly an added value!
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SM-G9860 will get OTA Updates regardless of your Service Provider, it's Dual-SIM unlike South Korean Variant, it's less expensive than the SM-G986N or SM-G986U and it's as close as you'll get to a pure Android Device when compared to any other Samsung offerings. The only real disadvantages are it may not be 5G Compatible depending on your Service Provider and Warrant Repairs typically aren't handled by the seller unless you buy it directly from Samsung.

SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
Please do check beforehand whether the device supports all network bands that your telecom provider is operating on.
Forget about the SM-986N. It is single SIM and has a lot of Korean bloatware.

YH93 said:
SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
Please do check beforehand whether the device supports all network bands that your telecom provider is operating on.
Forget about the SM-986N. It is single SIM and has a lot of Korean bloatware.
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I've only heard about Samsung Pay, it's the only feature that won't work here in Europe with the SM-GM9860 right? (There's Google Pay, so no problems with that)
All the other "Samsung's" ones like Knox, Pass etc. should work normally as far as I know. Can you confirm?
I checked the bands here in Italy and all should work normally. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

YH93 said:
SM-GM9860 is the one you need.
I'm using it in the Netherlands and everything works like a charm.
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Did you get it in a Dutch (online) shop (if so, where?) or did you import it?

ianeze46 said:
I've only heard about Samsung Pay, it's the only feature that won't work here in Europe with the SM-GM9860 right? (There's Google Pay, so no problems with that)
All the other "Samsung's" ones like Knox, Pass etc. should work normally as far as I know. Can you confirm?
I checked the bands here in Italy and all should work normally. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
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I'm not sure about Samsung Pay.
I've read some stories (can't recall on which forum) from European users who confirmed that Samsung Pay works fine on their Snapdragon S20.
I'm not using it myself so cannot confirm.
I can confirm though that the other features that you're mentioning work perfectly.
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anandus said:
Did you get it in a Dutch (online) shop (if so, where?) or did you import it?
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I imported from HongKong via Wondamobile.com.
I can recommend this shop. They're very fast in shipping out the phone (took about a week to arrive), you don't pay any customs fees and they are very helpful in answering any questions you have.
The only thing I recommend to buy yourself if you order from Hongkong is a wallcharger that is compatible with the powersockets in your country.

Samsung Pay does work, you're only getting Hong Hong ads.

General [Info] ZTE Axon 30

See:
ZTE teases Axon 30 with an improved under-display camera
ZTE has confirmed its upcoming Axon 30 will come with a second-generation under-display camera and a higher refresh screen.
www.xda-developers.com

thank you

有大神开发REC吗？
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Any development on REC?
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is it good that the CN sets comes with GMS?

Yeah i'm thinking to buy one. But stil don't know which one. Chinese with global rom or Global at ZTE Shop.
Chinese with global rom is cheaper at Giztop, but there is a chance to get extra customs.
1. This phone is Chinese Edition, comes with Global version software installed(international ROM), includes Google Play Service.
2. This phone supports multi-language: English, Chinese, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Italian, Arabic, Russian and more.
3. This phone supports these network bands:
4G: FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28; TDD: B34/38/39/40/41.
5G: n1/n3/n28/n41/n78

so no one has one? Mine supposed to arrive today

Chinese version with global rom comes with problems... I find it's MUCH slower to update (have to almost force it to) and can be a mother to root.
Older google apps abound and it doesn't want to update these, manually installing newer APK's seems to fail more times than not.
There can be bloatware that is (almost) impossible to uninstall.
Theme stores might not work without a Chinese number and you are stuck with some apps being only in Chinese with no English, or any other language, options.
Chinese phone might be a little cheaper but the Global variant will mean less headaches...
I have the Chinese Axon 20 and themes are especially a pain, the Theme store is geared for the Chinese and I find them all very cartoony, Forget about changing fonts as it uses theme store bought ones and again, not English. They ALL cost too. (Have to use Chinese currency)..
Forget about reading the changelog of a new Firmware, if you get updates, t took a few months with me checking and getting a "can't connect with server" error" before it finally updated, still a month or 2 behind in security patches though, though that may be normal.
All in all I wish I'd spent the few extra $$ on a Global variant but it wasn't available in my area at the time so got the Chinese one instead cos I'm an impatient little bugger.
Updating is a pain as you need to navigate Chinese only sites to find the firmware if you want to root or anything, a lot of these sites are hard to get things from, even with a VPN, and depending on the suppliers means of adding the Google apps, may not allow upgrading. This means having the stock firmware handy is nigh impossible if you have problems and is easier to end up with a brick...
Hope this helps you make up your mind.
To sum up, what you get is about all you can expect to work with (spent hour pulling my hair out trying to root a Chinese Axon 7 and ended up loosing all phone functionality), as long as you're happy to use without root, too much theme customisation problems with stock Android and hard to ignore apps you just can't get rid of. It may be worthwhile but in my opinion, get the Global version instead.
Got the Global Axon 30, much better experience and again, cost may only be up to $100 more but peace of mind is priceless...

在等论坛大神做rec.rom出来

ultramag69 said:
Chinese version with global rom comes with problems... I find it's MUCH slower to update (have to almost force it to) and can be a mother to root.
Older google apps abound and it doesn't want to update these, manually installing newer APK's seems to fail more times than not.
There can be bloatware that is (almost) impossible to uninstall.
Theme stores might not work without a Chinese number and you are stuck with some apps being only in Chinese with no English, or any other language, options.
Chinese phone might be a little cheaper but the Global variant will mean less headaches...
I have the Chinese Axon 20 and themes are especially a pain, the Theme store is geared for the Chinese and I find them all very cartoony, Forget about changing fonts as it uses theme store bought ones and again, not English. They ALL cost too. (Have to use Chinese currency)..
Forget about reading the changelog of a new Firmware, if you get updates, t took a few months with me checking and getting a "can't connect with server" error" before it finally updated, still a month or 2 behind in security patches though, though that may be normal.
All in all I wish I'd spent the few extra $$ on a Global variant but it wasn't available in my area at the time so got the Chinese one instead cos I'm an impatient little bugger.
Updating is a pain as you need to navigate Chinese only sites to find the firmware if you want to root or anything, a lot of these sites are hard to get things from, even with a VPN, and depending on the suppliers means of adding the Google apps, may not allow upgrading. This means having the stock firmware handy is nigh impossible if you have problems and is easier to end up with a brick...
Hope this helps you make up your mind.
To sum up, what you get is about all you can expect to work with (spent hour pulling my hair out trying to root a Chinese Axon 7 and ended up loosing all phone functionality), as long as you're happy to use without root, too much theme customisation problems with stock Android and hard to ignore apps you just can't get rid of. It may be worthwhile but in my opinion, get the Global version instead.
Got the Global Axon 30, much better experience and again, cost may only be up to $100 more but peace of mind is priceless...
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I bought global. Not sure why anyone would buy cn version

Again, the phone bought Chinese version was the Axon 20, and it wasn't available in my region, not even through international postage and It was also unintentional (Seller had "Global ROM' in BIG letters but CN model in itty bitty letters).
The Axon 30 I got a true Global variant from ZTE direct, came with a screen protector and ZTE iMore buds. Funnily enough though the screen protector supplied by ZTE, the official tempered glass protector, had the camera cutout which I thought was an odd choice seeing as how the phone's most advertised selling point is the under display camera. That was a boner-headed move on their part but the phone is pretty good.

Got mine today. Pretty good. Do wish I could crank up the color though. The setting for color is limited.

bs3pro said:
Got mine today. Pretty good. Do wish I could crank up the color though. The setting for color is limited.
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I've had mine since last Friday and it's really good overall. But I have 2 issues so far with the screen off the tap to illuminate the fingerprint reader doesn't work, and the AOD doesn't work at all I turn it on and the screen stays black so I have to contact ZTE and see if its just my unit

MixEvo said:
I've had mine since last Friday and it's really good overall. But I have 2 issues so far with the screen off the tap to illuminate the fingerprint reader doesn't work, and the AOD doesn't work at all I turn it on and the screen stays black so I have to contact ZTE and see if its just my unit
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what is the model number in the settings for the global? A2322? Or are they all A2322 with software differences? Thanks.
The bands are different for the regions
Per ZTE from their global site
5G (North America):
n78(3.4~3.7GHz)/n1/n28/n3/n41/n66(NSA/SA)
FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/28/66;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41;
WCDMA: B1/2/5/8;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
5G: (Europe):
NSA: n41(2496~2690MHz)/n38/n77/n78（3.4~3.7GHz）/n1//n3/n28(A&B)
SA:
n41(2496~2690MHz)/n38/n77/n78(3.4~3.7GHz)/n1/n3/n28(A&B)
FDD:B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/28/18/19;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41
UMTS: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;

mac231us said:
what is the model number in the settings for the global? A2322? Or are they all A2322 with software differences? Thanks.
The bands are different for the regions
Per ZTE from their global site
5G (North America):
n78(3.4~3.7GHz)/n1/n28/n3/n41/n66(NSA/SA)
FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/28/66;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41;
WCDMA: B1/2/5/8;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
5G: (Europe):
NSA: n41(2496~2690MHz)/n38/n77/n78（3.4~3.7GHz）/n1//n3/n28(A&B)
SA:
n41(2496~2690MHz)/n38/n77/n78(3.4~3.7GHz)/n1/n3/n28(A&B)
FDD:B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/28/18/19;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41
UMTS: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
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My phone's model number is A2322G its the USA version

MixEvo said:
My phone's model number is A2322G its the USA version
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Thanks. When you get a chance-could you post a screenshot of the about the phone panel from settings (blank out IMEIs). Appreciate it.

mac231us said:
what is the model number in the settings for the global? A2322? Or are they all A2322 with software differences? Thanks.
The bands are different for the regions
Per ZTE from their global site
5G (North America):
n78(3.4~3.7GHz)/n1/n28/n3/n41/n66(NSA/SA)
FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/28/66;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41;
WCDMA: B1/2/5/8;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
5G: (Europe):
NSA: n41(2496~2690MHz)/n38/n77/n78（3.4~3.7GHz）/n1//n3/n28(A&B)
SA:
n41(2496~2690MHz)/n38/n77/n78(3.4~3.7GHz)/n1/n3/n28(A&B)
FDD:B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/28/18/19;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41
UMTS: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
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My phone's model number is A2322G its the USA vers
mac231us said:
Thanks. When you get a chance-could you post a screenshot of the about the phone panel from settings (blank out IMEIs). Appreciate it.
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世事无绝对 said:
在等论坛大神做rec.rom出来
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hey bro, did you buy a CN version or a global version?

MixEvo said:
My phone's model number is A2322G its the USA vers
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thanks!
So from what I am seeing the G version is the USA/NA version and the one that is just A2322 is the China version. (was looking at a device for sale-had some Chinese characters in the settings and no "G"-OS version was slightly ahead or higher at 11.0.16)

lilfatbird said:
兄弟，你买的是国行版还是国行版？
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国行

I'm going for the Global model, but i want the 12GB/256GB model and it is still not avalible at the ZTE Global store.
I read that the phone doesn't have dual speakers. Is there a way to enable the ear speaker and use that for second speaker?