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[Q] Should I update to KitKat 4.4.2? (MI7 Note 3)

In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.

People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.

If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/

I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.

skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.

It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!

Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said

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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?

[Q] ROM

Just retired my Tmobile S2 / Jedi Mind Trick and purchased a new Tmobile S3 LTE. Just rooted it and put on CWM.... Which ROMS have the following.
1.WiFi Calling and MMS
2.Good Battery Life
3.Silky Smooth and Lighting Quick
4.Plenty of Free Memory
5.Bloatware free
Thanks

All Roms based on the Samsung Touchwiz Framwork will support WiFi Calling. So try S3Rx by @enewman17 or StockMod by @saranhai. Eitheer way, I suggest flash KT747 Kernel for Touchwiz.
In my opinion, (and this can be debatable.) AOSP Roms have more free Ram and slightly better battery life. However they will never support WiFi calling. Let me know if you want to explore that.

I found this thread in search before asking the same question.
Not all touchwiz based ROMs support Wifi calling. Read posts 31 and 32 in this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735506&page=4
I am having a hard time finding the best ROM for my needs. I have to have wifi calling. I have tried several, and really like the KitKat based AICP, but that doesn't do wifi calling, so I started looking for Touchwiz based ROMs, but can't find a good stable one that works well FOR ME.

To rephrase Perseus' statement, only Touchwiz roms based on T-Mobiles firmware will have wifi calling.
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Yup. That makes it far more difficult to sort them out.
I am going to try out StockMOD Rom now.

Most TW roms are built from a tmobile base. If not it should specify [PORT] in the title and/or OP.
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I can now confirm that wifi calling works on StockMOD.

custom ROM for tethering and wifi calling SGH-T999L
BenzE420 said:
I can now confirm that wifi calling works on StockMOD.
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Hi, I am new here to trying to figure out how to enable mobile hotspot/tethering and wifi calling with my SGH-T999L(t-mobile, prepaid 5GB data).
My phone(ver. 4.3) is rooted by Odin method with root66_TMO-L_T999LUVUBNC1.tar.md5 file. And superSU(ver. 1.94) was automatically(?) installed during the rooting but never used it since. Anyway, this was my very first dealing with phone software; I have never experienced rooting/flashing before. Please bear with my ignorant terms and questions...
q1. Isn't there any reasonably safe ROM to enable tethering?
q2. Can I flash the custom ROM with Odin, same process as my rooting but just change the MD5 file?
q3. Do I need to configure my phone before or after the custom ROM flashing for tethering?
when I rooted, I did not make any recovery. I had no clue about Knox counter before and still don't know where and how to check Knox counter with my phone.. I have just followed YouTube "safe rooting methods for s3" without much knowledge. How lucky my phone is not a brick now!!

1. Any of the Custom AOSP Roms will have tether built in. If you want to keep stock Touchwiz, you will have to use some Tether app from Play store.
2. Yes and no. You first flash custom Recovery with Odin. Same process except different file. Then you flash custom roms (which are in zip format) via the custom Recovery. A custom Recovery is TWRP, CWM or Philz Touch.
3. Usually yes after the custom rom is up and running. Just a few click to turn it on or customize to your preferences. No Rocket science there.
Knox Counter or Warranty Bit is displayed when you put the phone in download mode. If its zero that means its not set. If its 1 then you tripped it.

Is there any Tmobile based TW ROM that has HALO? If not, is there a good add on or app for notifications? Halo was one of the things I really liked about AICP. It seems possible, as Slimbean says it doesn't include HALO by choice.
It seems that all the ASOP ROMs are KitKat. Since KitKat is on the way to Tmobile S3 at some point. When that happens, will it allow ASOP type ROMS with Wifi, or am I mixing up several concepts?

HALO is a feature introduced by AOKP Developer community. Hence it is found only in Roms that are based on that code base such as PAC MAN. Other ROMs particularly Stock touchwiz will never the feature as is. Samsung did introduce something similar called floating Notifications that some liked but most did not. They base on Google's code so the AOKP code will never make it into Samsung Stock. However, I do recall there was bounty on Verizon's forum for bringing HALO to Touchwiz. Don't know what happened to it. I don't use touchwiz.
Speaking of all these terms, you indeed are mixing quiet a few things. AOSP Roms, based either on Google's code or CM's code will never use anything from the AOKP fork. This is by design. If you want to know why, you will have to understand the difference between AOSP and AOKP. Google is your friend.
I recall Liquidsmooth at one point in the 4.3 code had introduced HALO. Don't know if it continued or not. I do know, with the significant code changes to Kitkat, these prior features are not working and the developers are working to port them over. Its a matter of time. Speaking of which, all Custom Roms do have a 4.3 variant. Its just that users want the latest and greatest so you won't see much discussion of the 4.3 now. But it sure does exist.
After you accept Stock Kitkat update, I am sure you can continue to flash custom Kitkat Roms. Who knows, they might have moved to Key Lime Pie by then. But I don't think I understood the question. Are you referring to the Tether or WiFi hotspot ?

I was referring to wifi caling. That is a make or break feature for me. I found a few ROMs that were head and shoulders above TW (FOR ME), but because of lots of steel and concrete structures in my AO I really need wifi calling. I looked into multiboot, but I would have to toggle back and forth too much to make it work.

Wi Fi calling can and only will work with Samsung's Stock Touchwiz. So since that's critical to you, I'd suggest sticking with the stock Rom and Root it if needed. Once Rooted you can remove the bloat to make it more viable. You can also use the KT747 Kernel for Touchwiz. That will allow you to get better battery life.
As to your HALO wish, I guess, you'd have to stick with floating notification and Multi Window features Samsung has. You could try some of the ports of Xposed frameworks. But be cautious to make sure it does not break something else.

Perseus71 said:
1. Any of the Custom AOSP Roms will have tether built in. If you want to keep stock Touchwiz, you will have to use some Tether app from Play store.
2. Yes and no. You first flash custom Recovery with Odin. Same process except different file. Then you flash custom roms (which are in zip format) via the custom Recovery. A custom Recovery is TWRP, CWM or Philz Touch.
3. Usually yes after the custom rom is up and running. Just a few click to turn it on or customize to your preferences. No Rocket science there.
Knox Counter or Warranty Bit is displayed when you put the phone in download mode. If its zero that means its not set. If its 1 then you tripped it.
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Thank you very much. :good: Really sorry to bother you but more Qs..
1. When you say stock Touchwiz, does that mean the file I flashed for rooting? root66_TMO-L_T999LUVUBNC1.tar.md5
I have also tried many Tether apps found from google store and none of them worked. They just brings me to T-mobile error message.
2. Beyond tethering, I also like to have WIFI calling function although wifi calling is not as important as tethering for me. Benz said StockMOD works for WIFI calling. So, I was thinking about to flash StockMOD for my custom ROM as long as it will also work for tethering... Do you know whether it works for tethering? If so, would you tell me where I can find StockMOD? By the way, is StockMOD a custom ROM?
3. Did I really screw up my phone warranty? Ouch,,, I have just checked the message on download mode of my phone. It says following:
product name: sgh-t999L
custom binary download: no
current binary:Samsung Official
System Status: custom
DualDomm Secure Boot: enable
Warranty Bit: 1
Bootloader AP Swrev: 1
Any unusual status you notice beyond warranty Bit? Is this saying my phone is rooted? Frankly, I am still not confident to say my phone is rooted.. AGain, thank you very much for your help.:good::good:

Touchwiz is the name of samsungs launcher and modifications they made on top of Android. So whem you see stock, tw, or touchwiz its referring to the official firmware from samsung. Touchwiz based, tmobile roms are the only ones with wifi calling.
The warranty bit is tripped. No way around this if you plan to flash anything anymore. But yes, your warranty is now void im afraid...
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Some questions before i take the plunge to 4.4.2

Still on 4.1.2, N7100. So i've downloaded the May 2014 4.4.2 France firmware, will that be okay? After that, will i be able to root? Even with Knox... And how is the battery life on 4.4.2? Is it good? And lastly, how is the performance? Will I experience lag and stutters?

Ev0d3vil said:
Still on 4.1.2, N7100. So i've downloaded the May 2014 4.4.2 France firmware, will that be okay? After that, will i be able to root? Even with Knox... And how is the battery life on 4.4.2? Is it good? And lastly, how is the performance? Will I experience lag and stutters?
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Yes you can flash any country's stock ROM and France firmware is what most developers used to make custom roms and we are using it without issues.Some users have had to switch modems to get better reception and data speeds but that's not a big deal.Yes you can root stock ROM with Knox, follow this guide on how to root it.Battery life is subjective.Some users are getting excellent battery life,some are getting less than what they got on 4.1.2.Performance wise stock rom has no lag no stuttering.When it comes to custom roms you got lots of options so performance will vary depending on what features does a custom ROM contain like S5 and N3 features.

Alright i just updated, i like the layout, but the something in the wake lock is bothering me, it is being kept awake by google services, any idea which service? Its on since i unplugged it.

note 3 t mobile n900t custom roms.best roms for my note 3 t mobile..thank you

please give me a link for the best roms for my note 3 t mobile.many thanks

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please give me a link for the best roms for my note 3 t mobile.many thanks
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FIrst you need to tell us what are the features you are looking for and stock base dosent support.
In my opinion its way better to stay stock even unrooted (yes I said it!) for a while since everything seems to be in order on latest stock firmware.
When i was lurking around looking myself for some other custom alternative I was not impressed.Unreliable configs (bad ram managment and poor battery life),bad support,weekly changes,lack of NFC and unreliable camera(on nonTMO-base).This is mostly due to "developer" which are still learning basics to android development and lack of Samusng sources.
In concluison if you are still derermined to swich or just to try out I would suggest you to try either Dominion or for nonTW official cyanogemod rom.
Cheers and sorry for any spell errors.

Cancar96 said:
FIrst you need to tell us what are the features you are looking for and stock base dosent support.
In my opinion its way better to stay stock even unrooted (yes I said it!) for a while since everything seems to be in order on latest stock firmware.
When i was lurking around looking myself for some other custom alternative I was not impressed.Unreliable configs (bad ram managment and poor battery life),bad support,weekly changes,lack of NFC and unreliable camera(on nonTMO-base).This is mostly due to "developer" which are still learning basics to android development and lack of Samusng sources.
In concluison if you are still derermined to swich or just to try out I would suggest you to try either Dominion or for nonTW official cyanogemod rom.
Cheers and sorry for any spell errors.
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Thanks for this useful source and idea..i have only note 3 n900t stock rom.rooted already not yet customize rom....coz im looking for the best for my t mobile note 3....i will try soon dominion and cyanogen mod..thanks a lot...

What version of android is your stock rom? The latest is FOL1. I havent seen much of a difference between FOL1 and FOB6 to be honest but since FOB6 im not impressed. I tried to hold out as long as i could with DNF9 running a stock deodexed rom with xposed and a few other visual mods and never had any problems. I might just roll back to it.
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T-Mobile T807T vs T805

I've done a lot of searching and I seem to find conflicting information.
I have the opportunity to pick up a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE T-Mobile SM-T807T for a pretty good price. I have seen that I can install a custom recovery and root it. I see very few ROMs that list the T807T. Can I install a T805 ROM on the T807T? Some threads say yes, others say no.
I prefer ROMs like Cyanogenmod or other AOSP type ROMs. I like a clean ROM and I'll add my own stuff. I really don't like stock Samsung ROMs with Touchwiz and I really hate all the carrier stuff that gets added on the 3G/4G tablets or phones.

DonS said:
I've done a lot of searching and I seem to find conflicting information.
I have the opportunity to pick up a Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE T-Mobile SM-T807T for a pretty good price. I have seen that I can install a custom recovery and root it. I see very few ROMs that list the T807T. Can I install a T805 ROM on the T807T? Some threads say yes, others say no.
I prefer ROMs like Cyanogenmod or other AOSP type ROMs. I like a clean ROM and I'll add my own stuff. I really don't like stock Samsung ROMs with Touchwiz and I really hate all the carrier stuff that gets added on the 3G/4G tablets or phones.
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I'd love to find out, most of the other T807T users are not very helpful with explaining what they have tried. I am open to developing for a T807T i just need a test subject that can pull files i need and test builds and report with logs. It should not very different then the T805 most of the hardware is the same.

did you do this? I have a T-807T and Im trying to add a language for my mother in law but not sure how