Still on 4.1.2, N7100. So i've downloaded the May 2014 4.4.2 France firmware, will that be okay? After that, will i be able to root? Even with Knox... And how is the battery life on 4.4.2? Is it good? And lastly, how is the performance? Will I experience lag and stutters?
Ev0d3vil said:
Still on 4.1.2, N7100. So i've downloaded the May 2014 4.4.2 France firmware, will that be okay? After that, will i be able to root? Even with Knox... And how is the battery life on 4.4.2? Is it good? And lastly, how is the performance? Will I experience lag and stutters?
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Yes you can flash any country's stock ROM and France firmware is what most developers used to make custom roms and we are using it without issues.Some users have had to switch modems to get better reception and data speeds but that's not a big deal.Yes you can root stock ROM with Knox, follow this guide on how to root it.Battery life is subjective.Some users are getting excellent battery life,some are getting less than what they got on 4.1.2.Performance wise stock rom has no lag no stuttering.When it comes to custom roms you got lots of options so performance will vary depending on what features does a custom ROM contain like S5 and N3 features.
Alright i just updated, i like the layout, but the something in the wake lock is bothering me, it is being kept awake by google services, any idea which service? Its on since i unplugged it.
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Hey guys,
It's my first question on this website so please forgive me if I am too noob-ish with my questions.
So recently I got an OTA update for my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 asking me to update from jelly bean 4.1.2 to 4.3 and I did so with no second thought. However, within two weeks of using the new jelly bean version, I am sick of its performance issues, battery life, wifi problems and a host of other annoying things it brought to the table. So I went about looking for advice on several forms on how to improve performance and make my phone usable again.
In the end, I ended up rooting my phone successfully using a thread I found.
I also installed a custom recovery (CWM) so I could flash well-rated custom ROMs. Now, I have a few questions before proceeding since I came across a couple concerns other people expressed on other similar threads......I heard the new 4.3 update came with some kind of new bootloader and Samsung KNOX, and I've read that it could cause problems if I try to downgrade my phone back to the stock ROM (4.1.1) or 4.1.2.
So I have ruled out the option of downgrading my phone given the risk of permanently bricking it.
So my question and concern is.....can I go ahead and flash a custom ROM at this point without bricking my phone? I am thinking about Cyanogenmod 10.2, which is apparently based on jelly bean 4.3. Can I install cyanogenmod 11 (based on 4.4 kitkat) instead of 10.2? What are my risks of flashing a custom ROM through CWM at this point?
Please help, I'm stuck!!! Any help is much appreciated
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Hey guys,
It's my first question on this website so please forgive me if I am too noob-ish with my questions.
So recently I got an OTA update for my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 asking me to update from jelly bean 4.1.2 to 4.3 and I did so with no second thought. However, within two weeks of using the new jelly bean version, I am sick of its performance issues, battery life, wifi problems and a host of other annoying things it brought to the table. So I went about looking for advice on several forms on how to improve performance and make my phone usable again.
In the end, I ended up rooting my phone successfully using a thread I found.
I also installed a custom recovery (CWM) so I could flash well-rated custom ROMs. Now, I have a few questions before proceeding since I came across a couple concerns other people expressed on other similar threads......I heard the new 4.3 update came with some kind of new bootloader and Samsung KNOX, and I've read that it could cause problems if I try to downgrade my phone back to the stock ROM (4.1.1) or 4.1.2.
So I have ruled out the option of downgrading my phone given the risk of permanently bricking it.
So my question and concern is.....can I go ahead and flash a custom ROM at this point without bricking my phone? I am thinking about Cyanogenmod 10.2, which is apparently based on jelly bean 4.3. Can I install cyanogenmod 11 (based on 4.4 kitkat) instead of 10.2? What are my risks of flashing a custom ROM through CWM at this point?
Please help, I'm stuck!!! Any help is much appreciated
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Cyanogenmod is a good rom that improves your performance alot since bloatware is removed. My S4 on a stock rom uses on average 1.14gb of ram. When I switched to Cyanogenmod 11(4.4.2) It knocked it down to 550mb avarage. I have noticed a significant improvement over the stock rom. If you do it be VERY careful and follow all instructions exact. Make sure everything you download is for your model and you should be fine. Other than that, like you said downgrading is out of the picture so you can try other roms that are 4.3 and up if you don't like CM10/11.
Olycius said:
Cyanogenmod is a good rom that improves your performance alot since bloatware is removed. My S4 on a stock rom uses on average 1.14gb of ram. When I switched to Cyanogenmod 11(4.4.2) It knocked it down to 550mb avarage. I have noticed a significant improvement over the stock rom. If you do it be VERY careful and follow all instructions exact. Make sure everything you download is for your model and you should be fine. Other than that, like you said downgrading is out of the picture so you can try other roms that are 4.3 and up if you don't like CM10/11.
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yeah i also would also recommend Cyanogemod, for battery issues i would get the app Performance control and look up which Governor and i/o schedulers, i personally recommend the ondemand or ondemandx governor, you can check DIS out if you want to see it explained, just a brief explanation of why you should use them ondemandx clocks itself to 500mhz when the screen is off and is pretty much a nice battery saver, as for i/o's i myself have not done very much research into these but there are some threads on it too, i just use deadline.
Hello again
Dear xda developer's and visitors
I'm up to install the new firmware 4.3
So please before going for this step I want your help and experience
People who tried this version .. I want to know if it's stable as 4.1.2
If it's fast as 4.1.2
If its smooth as 4.1.2
If it has any issues ..
Tell me about ram consumption
Telk about lag
Tell about any point of view you have about this new firmware through your experience with
Thanks all again
One more question
What is the meaning if custom rom ... is it same as roms on Sammobile.com
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Any boooody say something
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Any boooody say something
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Custom ROM is simply slightly or much tweaked Stock ROM. It can contain themes or new functionality, added or removed apps etc. Most of the Custom Touchiz ROMs are pretty similar to stock ROMs and have added bits and pieces that most people would add anyway - like Xposed framework and some Xposed modules, etc, sound enhancements, Note 3 software but still look much like Stock Samsung ROM.
After 4.1.2 I flashed Criskelo (Custom TW ROM) and it is smoother than 4.1.2. I am very satisfied with this ROM, and can't understand why so many people complain about 4.3. IMHO this is the single BEST update on android I had on any device ever. 1st time I can really tell it is smoother than the previous version.
I strongly reccomend updating to 4.3, just follow all instructions and you should be fine. IMHO best ROMs are DN3, Phoenix and Criskelo. You can also try pre-rooted de-Knoxed stock ROMs, but you would loose any of the extras in these ROMs (Note 3 sw etc).
Really thanks for response ... but many says battery drains fast and fast after 4.3 update
And ram consumption very high
Could you clarify this for me and I would be thankful
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Really thanks for response ... but many says battery drains fast and fast after 4.3 update
And ram consumption very high
Could you clarify this for me and I would be thankful
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Battery for me is the same as on 4.1.2. Maybe on 1st boot it is higher because if you erase everything it has to run media scanner for a long time to scan all your photos. But for me it is the same.
Don't worry about RAM consumption. I can't get it why people want to have EMPTY RAM??? What good is empty RAM, just doing nothing? If it uses more RAM, it means it is using it for something, probably caching disk, processes, apps.... Everything works just fine, Android manages RAM by itself. If it all works fine, why should I care how much RAM there is? Also it depends on your apps more than anything. I have like 290 USER apps, together with system apps it is like 510. And NEVER have I noticed any problems... so just forget about RAM, Android manages everything automatically, and our device has a lots of RAM. Even with TSF shell running which is huge, all is fluid and no apps have problems.
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Battery for me is the same as on 4.1.2. Maybe on 1st boot it is higher because if you erase everything it has to run media scanner for a long time to scan all your photos. But for me it is the same.
Don't worry about RAM consumption. I can't get it why people want to have EMPTY RAM??? What good is empty RAM, just doing nothing? If it uses more RAM, it means it is using it for something, probably caching disk, processes, apps.... Everything works just fine, Android manages RAM by itself. If it all works fine, why should I care how much RAM there is? Also it depends on your apps more than anything. I have like 290 USER apps, together with system apps it is like 510. And NEVER have I noticed any problems... so just forget about RAM, Android manages everything automatically, and our device has a lots of RAM. Even with TSF shell running which is huge, all is fluid and no apps have problems.
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Thanks thanks thanks
Really thank you very much
One more question .. I'm going to flash a rom from Sammobile.com its for united arab Emirates
Do I have to flash any other kernals
Sorry, im new
And then , do you recommend me by special rom for android 4.3 ?
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Thanks thanks thanks
Really thank you very much
One more question .. I'm going to flash a rom from Sammobile.com its for united arab Emirates
Do I have to flash any other kernals
Sorry, im new
And then , do you recommend me by special rom for android 4.3 ?
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If you flash ROM from Sammobile, you will be Knox-locked. You will have Knox and you can never again downgrade to 4.1.2. And if you root, you will loose your warranty and will never be able to use Knox again. Knox is preventing you from flashing anything without triggering Knox counter to 0x1.
If you do flash UAE ROM from Sam mobile, you don't have to flash anything else, bootloader and modem are included.
But I'd suggest flashing de-Knoxed ROM, so you can later (if you want) install any custom ROM, downgrade, etc.
If you want custom ROMs, I'd suggest Phoenix, DM3 or Criskelo.
D.
Thanks a lot dear
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What do you think about tigrA rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479698
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If you flash ROM from Sammobile, you will be Knox-locked. You will have Knox and you can never again downgrade to 4.1.2. And if you root, you will loose your warranty and will never be able to use Knox again. Knox is preventing you from flashing anything without triggering Knox counter to 0x1.
If you do flash UAE ROM from Sam mobile, you don't have to flash anything else, bootloader and modem are included.
But I'd suggest flashing de-Knoxed ROM, so you can later (if you want) install any custom ROM, downgrade, etc.
If you want custom ROMs, I'd suggest Phoenix, DM3 or Criskelo.
D.
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Thanks a lot dear
Last question
What do you think about tigrA rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479698
which one is best
dalanik said:
If you flash ROM from Sammobile, you will be Knox-locked. You will have Knox and you can never again downgrade to 4.1.2. And if you root, you will loose your warranty and will never be able to use Knox again. Knox is preventing you from flashing anything without triggering Knox counter to 0x1.
If you do flash UAE ROM from Sam mobile, you don't have to flash anything else, bootloader and modem are included.
But I'd suggest flashing de-Knoxed ROM, so you can later (if you want) install any custom ROM, downgrade, etc.
If you want custom ROMs, I'd suggest Phoenix, DM3 or Criskelo.
D.
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which is the best one
phoenix or DN3
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?
Hi guys,
I recently bought the LTE T805 variant of Tab S - which I've already rooted and loaded TWRP onto.
I'm traditionally a Nexus/HTC owner and I'm really struggling to enjoy TouchWiz, only made worse by my carriers bloatware. I'd like to flash an AOSP based ROM to achieve a stock look/feel; but I want to retain LTE functionality (some comments I've read suggest if I flash a T800 ROM, I'll end up wifi only).
Looking for a bit of help with...
- What the hell is Knox and should I be worried about tripping it?
- What AOSP ROMs are available which retain LTE functionality and are rock solid stable? I'm not fussed about Android version anything based on KitKat is fine if it means I retain functionality.
Thanks in advance for any advice on offer!
Knox is a security feature by samsung. You shouldnt be worried about tripping it but you lose warranty. but sometimes samsung can fix your device if there is any defects. I was worried too but... I never had problems since tripping it. If your device runs fine and all that, your good to go!
There are no AOSP roms which retain LTE at the moment. I do recommend xnote rom as it has some touchwiz in it, but has a ton of features and you will still have lte.
Hope this helps!
The other less drastic option is to use a launcher like the google now launcher for the stock android feel.
Have you disabled the carrier bloat? I have a T805 and flashed the latest Hong Kong ROM and has no bloat at all.
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There are no AOSP roms which retain LTE at the moment. I do recommend xnote rom as it has some touchwiz in it, but has a ton of features and you will still have lte.
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Damn not the kinda answer I was hoping for! Thanks for the suggestion, will check it out
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The other less drastic option is to use a launcher like the google now launcher for the stock android feel.
Have you disabled the carrier bloat? I have a T805 and flashed the latest Hong Kong ROM and has no bloat at all.
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Yeah loading Nova Launcher was one of the first things I did; but was hoping to reclaim stock notification drawer/quick settings toggles/lockscreen from AOSP Android too. Currently working through pulling the bloatware off now. Thanks guys!
Maybe rooting and xposed would be of benefit to you?
Already rooted - I've had plenty experience with xposed, but hadn't even occurred to me to go looking for some samsung/touchwiz specific modules! Good idea thanks!
please give me a link for the best roms for my note 3 t mobile.many thanks
JahRaztah said:
please give me a link for the best roms for my note 3 t mobile.many thanks
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FIrst you need to tell us what are the features you are looking for and stock base dosent support.
In my opinion its way better to stay stock even unrooted (yes I said it!) for a while since everything seems to be in order on latest stock firmware.
When i was lurking around looking myself for some other custom alternative I was not impressed.Unreliable configs (bad ram managment and poor battery life),bad support,weekly changes,lack of NFC and unreliable camera(on nonTMO-base).This is mostly due to "developer" which are still learning basics to android development and lack of Samusng sources.
In concluison if you are still derermined to swich or just to try out I would suggest you to try either Dominion or for nonTW official cyanogemod rom.
Cheers and sorry for any spell errors.
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FIrst you need to tell us what are the features you are looking for and stock base dosent support.
In my opinion its way better to stay stock even unrooted (yes I said it!) for a while since everything seems to be in order on latest stock firmware.
When i was lurking around looking myself for some other custom alternative I was not impressed.Unreliable configs (bad ram managment and poor battery life),bad support,weekly changes,lack of NFC and unreliable camera(on nonTMO-base).This is mostly due to "developer" which are still learning basics to android development and lack of Samusng sources.
In concluison if you are still derermined to swich or just to try out I would suggest you to try either Dominion or for nonTW official cyanogemod rom.
Cheers and sorry for any spell errors.
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Thanks for this useful source and idea..i have only note 3 n900t stock rom.rooted already not yet customize rom....coz im looking for the best for my t mobile note 3....i will try soon dominion and cyanogen mod..thanks a lot...
What version of android is your stock rom? The latest is FOL1. I havent seen much of a difference between FOL1 and FOB6 to be honest but since FOB6 im not impressed. I tried to hold out as long as i could with DNF9 running a stock deodexed rom with xposed and a few other visual mods and never had any problems. I might just roll back to it.
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