Hello.
I read a guide on how to convert anything to a Developer Edition device running Lollipop. I noticed something interesting: y'know that the WWE M8s are all SKU 401? Then why is the Developer Edition 1540? The CID is different too: WWE ones all start with HTC__ (e.g HTC__032) wile the Developer Edition is BS_US002? So what is going on here and why is the Developer Edition M8 different from the WWE one?
u-wot-m8 said:
Hello.
I read a guide on how to convert anything to a Developer Edition device running Lollipop. I noticed something interesting: y'know that the WWE M8s are all SKU 401? Then why is the Developer Edition 1540? The CID is different too: WWE ones all start with HTC__ (e.g HTC__032) wile the Developer Edition is BS_US002? So what is going on here and why is the Developer Edition M8 different from the WWE one?
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They're sold as different phones and need to be identified as such. Different updates come downstream for them. Basically the same reason my Rogers HTC One has yet another CID/MID, as do the T-Mobile, Orange, Telus, O2, etc.
craig0r said:
They're sold as different phones and need to be identified as such. Different updates come downstream for them. Basically the same reason my Rogers HTC One has yet another CID/MID, as do the T-Mobile, Orange, Telus, O2, etc.
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OK, I get why there carriers have different versions. But isn't the Developer Edition pretty much the same as a WWE Unlocked one, just with an unlocked bootloader? And if the bootloader isn't unlocked, why does it even exist?
u-wot-m8 said:
OK, I get why there carriers have different versions. But isn't the Developer Edition pretty much the same as a WWE Unlocked one, just with an unlocked bootloader? And if the bootloader isn't unlocked, why does it even exist?
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There are different ROMs. Yeah, they're probably almost identical, but not quite. I doubt I can get more specific than that... maybe they have different APNs installed? Possibly different levels of bloatware? It might just be that the dev edition gets updates first, so customers can pay extra to have a phone that updates a week or two before their WWE/Carrier counterparts.
I'm pretty sure the bootloader comes locked on the dev edition, just like all the other phones, and you have to unlock it at htcdev.com. I might be wrong though.
Are you facing some sort of technical issue, or just curious?
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There are different ROMs. Yeah, they're probably almost identical, but not quite. I doubt I can get more specific than that... maybe they have different APNs installed? Possibly different levels of bloatware? It might just be that the dev edition gets updates first, so customers can pay extra to have a phone that updates a week or two before their WWE/Carrier counterparts.
I'm pretty sure the bootloader comes locked on the dev edition, just like all the other phones, and you have to unlock it at htcdev.com. I might be wrong though.
Are you facing some sort of technical issue, or just curious?
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I'm just curious. I have heard that Developer Edition devices with CID BS_US002 ship with an unlocked bootloader. So, there is almost no difference, just HTC trying to sell it?
x.xx.401.x is the European ROM build, not World Wide English (WWE) as it used to be (which also used to be x.xx.405.x when it was WWE but that's going back a few years)
The US Developer Edition is their version of the EU SIM-free handset but has a different software build, CID and MID and has different radio frequencies so not all 4G bands are covered for EU use. It also only covers a few languages as opposed to the EU languages covered in the EU SIM-free version
EddyOS said:
x.xx.401.x is the European ROM build, not World Wide English (WWE) as it used to be (which also used to be x.xx.405.x when it was WWE but that's going back a few years)
The US Developer Edition is their version of the EU SIM-free handset but has a different software build, CID and MID and has different radio frequencies so not all 4G bands are covered for EU use. It also only covers a few languages as opposed to the EU languages covered in the EU SIM-free version
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Ok.. So .401 is the EU unlocked version, . 1540 is US unlocked with CID BS_US002 also having the bootloader unlocked (BS_US001 only has SIM unlock). Am I correct?
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Yes, the US DE comes with the bootloader pre-unlocked. The EU model is supplied locked but can be unlocked via HTC Dev
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i am planning on buying an unlocked (can be used with any sim card) vodafone m8 (when the phone turns on or off, vodafone logo appears)
all i want to ask is can i flash international m8`s roms on it? coz otherwise i wont go for it
Khizar Amin said:
i am planning on buying an unlocked (can be used with any sim card) vodafone m8 (when the phone turns on or off, vodafone logo appears)
all i want to ask is can i flash international m8`s roms on it? coz otherwise i wont go for it
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Yes with s-off you can easily convert it to Developer Edition - International or GPe
clsA said:
Yes with s-off you can easily convert it to Developer Edition - International or GPe
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thanks. that was the only thing i had in mind that whether or not the international roms are compatible with it. coz verizon and AT&t m8 have separate development forums on xda
Khizar Amin said:
thanks. that was the only thing i had in mind that whether or not the international roms are compatible with it. coz verizon and AT&t m8 have separate development forums on xda
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thats because the americans cant agree to use the same radio frequencies for their networks, so companies need to make different models for each carrier.
i bought myself an used phone on o2, s-off'd it, changed the cid to GOOGL01 and flashed the GPE conversion RUU. HTC__001 is the sim free cid if you want to flash a sense RUU to completely unbrand your device
Khizar Amin said:
thanks. that was the only thing i had in mind that whether or not the international roms are compatible with it. coz verizon and AT&t m8 have separate development forums on xda
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You'll be good with international based ROMs. You wouldn't be good with others. The O2 M8 is International WWE. You may have to update your firmware though, to run the latest ROMs, otherwise your wifi will not work.
I've got an unlocked, unbranded Australian One M8 (HTC__039) but I'm not getting any updates to Lollipop. I've installed all the updates but the latest has kept me at 4.4.4 (Sense 6.0, Software 3.32.710.9, SDK 6.25, build 3.32.710.9 CL397296 release-keys) and saying there's no further updates. I'm not S-OFF so I can't change my CID to apply another OTA and I want to update before I start using it and have to reconfigure things again after the update. I was under the impression that HTC have released Lollipop for all unlocked variants now?
Am I doing something wrong or have HTC not released an update for my CID yet?
Your phone is Vodafone-branded, hence no update yet
It's not Vodafone branded. Vodafone branded ones carry a CID VODAP*** this is HTC__*** which are the international variants.
acecombat said:
It's not Vodafone branded. Vodafone branded ones carry a CID VODAP*** this is HTC__*** which are the international variants.
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Vodaphone is also international. And if you mean it's wwe.....it's not, wwe has software number 401.
acecombat said:
It's not Vodafone branded. Vodafone branded ones carry a CID VODAP*** this is HTC__*** which are the international variants.
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Well, not sure why it's listed on the Vodafone Australia support site then...
http://support.vodafone.com.au/articles/FAQ/HTC-One-M8-software-update
But no, it's not the European unlocked so no update yet...
No ota update
Hello,
Can some one help me out or at least try.
I have installed the stock ROM of KitKat 4.4.4 3.28.401.9 from the links provided on my HTC ONE M8. I have stock recovery, unlocked bootloader, S-ON and non rooted but I cannot receive any update of the new software Lollipop. Is there an app or something else that is blocking the update?
3-4 days ago when it was released in Europe, I have managed to download the update from the phone, but I couldn't install it because of some error. Then I decided to wipe the system and install the stock rom again and now ... no update what so ever ? Any help ?
Thanks a lot!!!
EddyOS said:
Well, not sure why it's listed on the Vodafone Australia support site then...
http://support.vodafone.com.au/articles/FAQ/HTC-One-M8-software-update
But no, it's not the European unlocked so no update yet...
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Vodafone just happen to have the latest version too. It's still not Vodafone.
I did contact HTC Australia today and it IS an unlocked Australian version, but they advised they have not released the update to Australian customers yet and HTC Australia have not been told by HTC HQ when the release will be available
Seems a bit of a poor effort to me - The phone is the same and it's unlocked so why shouldn't all unlocked variants get the update at the same time???
acecombat said:
Vodafone just happen to have the latest version too. It's still not Vodafone.
I did contact HTC Australia today and it IS an unlocked Australian version, but they advised they have not released the update to Australian customers yet and HTC Australia have not been told by HTC HQ when the release will be available
Seems a bit of a poor effort to me - The phone is the same and it's unlocked so why shouldn't all unlocked variants get the update at the same time???
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It's probably a network unlocked phone but taken from vodaphone. The software number does prove it comes originally from vodaphone.
Any news?
Hey guys do you have any news about Lollipop Update for the HTC One M8?
I've got an Australian factory unlocked version and in these days I checked so many times if there was the Lollipop OTA but nothing appears... Is it normal or something is wrong?
I'm worried now, I was wondering if someone of you could help me or give me more informations about it.
Thanks for your time
I owned a htc m9u just gave to me by my relatives abroad. forgot what country he's staying.
my question is, is there any significant diffirence with the variant m9u between m9 when it comes to hardware and with updates release by HTC?
my device is running android 5.1 . SN# 2.10.709.1.
the ota always tell the my system is up to date.
Hope someone will clarify this up. Thank you!
The "u" just stands for unlocked. The only difference between that and other M9 models are the frequency bands they're compatible with. Also, the Developer Edition comes with an unlocked bootloader.
Parts M9u for M9
DrummerBoy420 said:
The "u" just stands for unlocked. The only difference between that and other M9 models are the frequency bands they're compatible with. Also, the Developer Edition comes with an unlocked bootloader.
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good afternoon. Can you tell me if the M9U server parts for the M9?
So I found this nifty guide by looking at all the forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
Question is it wise to go to WWE model or just go to US unlocked model?
In my past experience with HTC sometimes the WWE variant gets updates first sometimes the US Does
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nofroyo said:
So I found this nifty guide by looking at all the forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
Question is it wise to go to WWE model or just go to US unlocked model?
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Unlocked US is fully compatible with T-Mobile US, not sure if the WWE is.
nofroyo said:
So I found this nifty guide by looking at all the forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
Question is it wise to go to WWE model or just go to US unlocked model?
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So I change the CID to BS_US001 correct? Do i need to change the other number too? forgot what it was called.
No. The mid is the same
If you convert to wwe that's what it is... You also lose some bands and tweaks meant for us networks
PunishedSnake said:
If you convert to wwe that's what it is... You also lose some bands and tweaks meant for us networks
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i plan on just changing it to unbranded US unlocked version and not the WWE that's why I was asking if any differences between each one. Just to confirm BS_US001 is for the US unlocked version correct? and I don't have to change the MID?
nofroyo said:
i plan on just changing it to unbranded US unlocked version and not the WWE that's why I was asking if any differences between each one. Just to confirm BS_US001 is for the US unlocked version correct? and I don't have to change the MID?
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Yes, that's correct.
Hello,
in the past I've reset my CID to get updates ASAP and doesn't depends on my Carriers Fun.
In the Updates the third number makes the difference if updates apply to the flashed Image (i.e. x.xx.401.xxx) I'd understand (?). And of course which CID the phone has. If there is an actual list which CIDs are given? And: In my case I've CID HTC__001 which means WorldWideEnglish, but I didn't receive (Unlocked, S-OFF) the 7.0 updates for the M9.
I've seen that there is a Update for 617 ("Gen Unlock" named on HTCdev) with 7.0. What does 617 means? I didn't found anything about this code. Is it relative new? What it stand for? Is it recommended to set CID tu Super-CID 11111111 and Flash this RUU? What are the consequence if I Flash a 617 RUU?
Groby said:
Hello,
in the past I've reset my CID to get updates ASAP and doesn't depends on my Carriers Fun.
In the Updates the third number makes the difference if updates apply to the flashed Image (i.e. x.xx.401.xxx) I'd understand (?). And of course which CID the phone has. If there is an actual list which CIDs are given? And: In my case I've CID HTC__001 which means WorldWideEnglish, but I didn't receive (Unlocked, S-OFF) the 7.0 updates for the M9.
I've seen that there is a Update for 617 ("Gen Unlock" named on HTCdev) with 7.0. What does 617 means? I didn't found anything about this code. Is it relative new? What it stand for? Is it recommended to set CID tu Super-CID 11111111 and Flash this RUU? What are the consequence if I Flash a 617 RUU?
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C.f. Q2 and Q9.
I installed the 4.14.401.7 OTA yesterday evening via the software update function of the stock rom (CID: HTC__102). Has your phone originally been branded by a carrier? If yes, did you only change your CID or did you flash the corresponding RUU, as well. If you forgot to do the latter you're still using a carrier-branded firmware. Look at the line with "OS" at the beginning that is stated in the download mode for checking your current firmware version.
SKU 617 is the US equivalent of the European SKU 401. In case of the M9, SKU 617 is the one which receives new updates first. There shouldn't be too much differences between 401 and 617 firmwares aside from some continent-specific optimisations. Several European users here on xda are currently using a 617 firmware.
The SCID seems to prevent the M9 from receiving/installing OTAs. Therefore, you should better use a CID that corresponds to the SKU of the firmware you're using/want to use.
Nevertheless, there is no "best CID" or "best firmware". Unbranded SKUs receive updates earlier but some carrier-branded firmwares support VoLTE and/or WiFi-Calling. In other words every SKU has its pros and cons.
Thank you very much for all the Information -helps a lot!
The M9 was a T-Mobile Germany brand, so I'd set S-OFF and CID HTC__001 and flashed 1.32.401.17. The phone received updates OTA, now is 3.35.401.32 (seenable at download mode as well), but waiting now three months for Nougat so I thought I've more luck with the 617 (never seen this number before) and started this thread (after efforting Google a much).
May you have a link to a oversight of actual numbers like 401, 617 and 111 and so on?
And last questions: if I'd a look on htcdev.com Downloads, the Downloads are marked with "Type" MR, MR2 and CRC, and Region "Gen Unlock" -do you know what this means? Is "Gen Unlock" the Region which is different by model, so that i.e. the M7 will have the 401 as "Gen Unlock" and receive updates first? And which CID I've to set for a proper installed 617? For an A9 I'd found BS_US001 for unlocked phoned. Will that also fit for an M9?
Groby said:
Thank you very much for all the Information -helps a lot!
The M9 was a T-Mobile Germany brand, so I'd set S-OFF and CID HTC__001 and flashed 1.32.401.17. The phone received updates OTA, now is 3.35.401.32 (seenable at download mode as well), but waiting now three months for Nougat so I thought I've more luck with the 617 (never seen this number before) and started this thread (after efforting Google a much).
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I don't know which keywords you searched for but the ReadMe thread which is pinned above the normal threads here in the General Section and in the Q&A Section mentions the SKU several times and so do many other threads here on xda...
Groby said:
May you have a link to a oversight of actual numbers like 401, 617 and 111 and so on?
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Did you click on the link in my last post?
Groby said:
And last questions: if I'd a look on htcdev.com Downloads, the Downloads are marked with "Type" MR, MR2 and CRC, and Region "Gen Unlock" -do you know what this means? Is "Gen Unlock" the Region which is different by model, so that i.e. the M7 will have the 401 as "Gen Unlock" and receive updates first?
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HTCdev only provides kernel and other source codes. If you don't want to make your own custom rom those files are pretty much useless for you.
As said in my last post SKU 617 is the US equivalent of the European SKU 401. If you buy a US carrier-branded phone then it comes sim-locked. As an alternative you can buy a generic (sim-)unlocked variant directly from HTC. In addition, there's the so called developer edition of the M9 (which is actually just the sim-unlocked variant with a factory unlocked bootlader). Therefore a M7 with SKU 401 is technically not able to be "Gen Unlock" since a phone can't have two SKUs at the same time.
Groby said:
And which CID I've to set for a proper installed 617? For an A9 I'd found BS_US001 for unlocked phoned. Will that also fit for an M9?
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I hate to just copy'n'paste my answers, but again: Did you click on the link in my last post?
Did you mean the links in your Signature? In the post isn't one provided. (tried chrome and IE11).
Groby said:
Did you mean the links in your Signature? In the post isn't one provided. (tried chrome and IE11).
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I'm pretty sure that there is a link:
Flippy498 said:
C.f. Q2 and Q9.
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Flippy498 said:
I'm pretty sure that there is a link:
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I'm SO blind! Just searched in the Text block. Please apologise this mistake! Shame on me. I'm really angry about myself. Sorry for the extra effort. :-|
edit: of course used the "Donate" button -thank you very much for your support -and the extra effort!
Flippy498 said:
SKU 617 is the US equivalent of the European SKU 401. In case of the M9, SKU 617 is the one which receives new updates first. There shouldn't be too much differences between 401 and 617 firmwares aside from some continent-specific optimisations. Several European users here on xda are currently using a 617 firmware.
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I thought 617 is direct from htc (dev) and 401 is just a sim unlocked version of the gsm?.
Beamed in by telepathy.
shivadow said:
I thought 617 is direct from htc (dev) and 401 is just a sim unlocked version of the gsm?.
Beamed in by telepathy.
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Flippy498 said:
As said in my last post SKU 617 is the US equivalent of the European SKU 401. If you buy a US carrier-branded phone then it comes sim-locked. As an alternative you can buy a generic (sim-)unlocked variant directly from HTC. In addition, there's the so called developer edition of the M9 (which is actually just the sim-unlocked variant with a factory unlocked bootlader).
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The Unlocked Variant is the one with CID BS__US001. The only difference between this variant and the SKU 401 variants are the continent-specific optimisations (e.g. different supported frequencies). Both are just sim-unlocked GSM models. The only "special" characteristics of the dev edition are that its CID is BS__US002 (instead of BS__US001) and that its bootloader is unlocked already when the phone leaves HTC's factory. That's it. If I remember correctly, older HTC phones had a different SKU for the dev edition (1540 or something like that). In addition, the dev edition hasn't always been the variant that receives the updates first. There was a time when the Taiwanese version (SKU 709) was the first variant that received updates due to HTC being a Taiwanese company. But that was before the M9 got launched.